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 [WTA]Fiesta vs 208 vs Inspira vs Prius C, <RM90k car for Single late 20s male

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post Jul 17 2013, 01:15 AM

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QUOTE(K3nnYkl82 @ Jul 17 2013, 01:11 AM)
U will get wira 1993 broucher soon whistling.gif
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QUOTE(SothysSaleShop @ Jul 17 2013, 01:07 AM)
oh yeah? stop talking nonsense please, who taught you that?? Please show me an official Lancer brochure or website promoting the premium smell as their main attraction factor....
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jayraptor say the brochure in local website is downgraded jor.. so i dunno which website show the ORI d.... i think i better believe this jayraptor... cos he seems to be more pro than the official brochure.... blush.gif

QUOTE(jayraptor @ Jul 15 2013, 10:10 PM)
That sounds ridiculous or funny but true. You can go sit inside MMC Lancer GT, Mazda 3, Forte/Cerato, Pug408, Toyota Altis, Inspira, Preve brand new at various showroom and then compare the smell. IF you could still find China made cars, get in and remember the smell. Then you'll know the difference. Please make sure you are not having nose block or flu before you go. Conti smell inside is best followed by Mazda and then Japs/Koreans. The factory and storage condition determines the smell other than the leather/fabric. I am referring to the smell of the dashboard and door panels.
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post Jul 17 2013, 01:44 AM

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QUOTE(jayraptor @ Jul 17 2013, 12:54 AM)
As expected, you bunch of parasites will be hunger for fault finding on anything minor you can find. VSC, ASC, VSA, their function to prevent understeer and oversteer with counter braking. As mentioned earlier, you can choose to add in weight personally.

People talking taking tech parts from Lancer GT and fit into Lancer GL, it could reach 1385kg. Inspira premium, what do they add in for the weight? Beras Wangi?
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even if we give you the benefit of the doubt. let say we agree lancer gt has 1385kg and its the ultimate truth. it is only difference by 50kg and that will be only 3.6%. so meaning the inspira has 96.4% of similarity to lancer right? what is the big hoohaa you trying to make here? nobody says inspira = lancer 100%. it is a CKD based lancer with a rebadge in malaysia. MMC had mentioned in press media that they only allow proton to tweak the suspension for handling they like, not changing the suspension layout or making some new design out of it. the tweaking they meant even for laymen is basically 3 simple things such as spring, absorber and anti roll bars. thats all. MMC allow proton to redesign the front and rear bumpers as well and other minor cosmetic items like the tiny rear spoiler n side skirts that didnt affect the actual design of the exterior body parts. but at least we know, the main thing like the full chassis, engine, gearbox and main wiring/electronic components are from mitsubishi. yes, in the process of CKD, some minor parts might be manufactured by local manufacturers according to spec.

in this CKD process, its the same thing going on for other local CKD Honda and Toyota, even your local CKD Naza-Kia cars have their parts locally manufactured too. why u never make a big hoohaa for those but Inspira? iszit because of the Proton badge? if yes, then you are no different than from those who make big foul cry in lancer forum when Proton launch the Inspira back then. like a bunch of kids crying for buying more expensive candy than other kids. if you are so great, go make your stand for Hyundai Carnival owners back then due to CKD Naza Ria. you know why Lancer still can dispose some of their Lancer? coz of ppl like u, the badge makes wonder, but its your money to burn for that extra 40k. pffttt! doh.gif

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post Jul 17 2013, 02:46 AM

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QUOTE(Gouki @ Jul 17 2013, 01:44 AM)
even if we give you the benefit of the doubt. let say we agree lancer gt has 1385kg and its the ultimate truth. it is only difference by 50kg and that will be only 3.6%. so meaning the inspira has 96.4% of similarity to lancer right? what is the big hoohaa you trying to make here? nobody says inspira = lancer 100%. it is a CKD based lancer with a rebadge in malaysia. MMC had mentioned in press media that they only allow proton to tweak the suspension for handling they like, not changing the suspension layout or making some new design out of it. the tweaking they meant even for laymen is basically 3 simple things such as spring, absorber and anti roll bars. thats all. MMC allow proton to redesign the front and rear bumpers as well and other minor cosmetic items like the tiny rear spoiler n side skirts that didnt affect the actual design of the exterior body parts. but at least we know, the main thing like the full chassis, engine, gearbox and main wiring/electronic components are from mitsubishi. yes, in the process of CKD, some minor parts might be manufactured by local manufacturers according to spec.

in this CKD process, its the same thing going on for other local CKD Honda and Toyota, even your local CKD Naza-Kia cars have their parts locally manufactured too. why u never make a big hoohaa for those but Inspira? iszit because of the Proton badge? if yes, then you are no different than from those who make big foul cry in lancer forum when Proton launch the Inspira back then. like a bunch of kids crying for buying more expensive candy than other kids. if you are so great, go make your stand for Hyundai Carnival owners back then due to CKD Naza Ria. you know why Lancer still can dispose some of their Lancer? coz of ppl like u, the badge makes wonder, but its your money to burn for that extra 40k. pffttt! doh.gif
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I Bilif that jayraptor is still staying with his parents house basement, sulking and making his own make believe world. I guess he has no fren to play with or anyone that even gives a sh.it about him, therefore the only attention he can get is making a fool out of this, hey at least he gets plenty of attention right.....ur making his day...keep up the good works guys...u just made jayraptor a happy man....kudos

P/s : Mr.jayraptor, dun feel sad or lonely, come join us for one of our tt, we'lll be ur real frens.......u can say bye bye to those imagineries fren u created

This post has been edited by stewPik: Jul 17 2013, 02:50 AM
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post Jul 17 2013, 06:39 AM

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no need argue la.. make urself stupid only......
just give simple answer la... the difference 50kg.. because mesin timbang rosak...... because that day blackout...
faham u all?

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post Jul 17 2013, 07:54 AM

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QUOTE(stewPik @ Jul 17 2013, 02:46 AM)
I Bilif that jayraptor is still staying with his parents house basement, sulking and making his own make believe world. I guess he has no fren to play with or anyone that even gives a sh.it about him, therefore the only attention he can get is making a fool out of this, hey at least he gets plenty of attention right.....ur making his day...keep up the good works guys...u just made jayraptor a happy man....kudos

P/s : Mr.jayraptor, dun feel sad or lonely, come join us for one of our tt, we'lll be ur real frens.......u can say bye bye to those imagineries fren u created
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Haha, perhaps you are right. 29 years old, single and unattached. Living with parents. Too much time on hand and spending most of his time posting long messages mostly rubbish that floods the forums.
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post Jul 17 2013, 08:09 AM

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QUOTE(nzh0920 @ Jul 17 2013, 12:31 AM)
wat he mean is that lancer GT assemble in japan, so during assembling , got japanese fart in the car, so it smell better. so it better than inspira in EVERY aspect, but still cannot beat his goldlike forte 1.6 4sp auto wheres better than forte 2.0 ok

UNDERSTAND????  whistling.gif  whistling.gif  whistling.gif
out, lazy argue with cow, cause he even open new ID in AW to claim that we owners are sales man

source : http://forum.autoworld.com.my/index.php?sh...c=105100&st=349
why i said so??  cause only he calling other people as salesman  whistling.gif  whistling.gif  whistling.gif
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QUOTE(K3nnYkl82 @ Jul 17 2013, 12:40 AM)
Why no we do a proof la.. Buy lancer GT 2013 .. Buy inspira 2.0P
We strip the car off ...everything...
Loser pay for both the car price 125k + 86k (inspira 2.0E)
Since u are so confident the chassis different

When I says everything I mean everyhing down to the bone.. See the chassis got diff or not
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need to include smell to the competition??

QUOTE(K3nnYkl82 @ Jul 17 2013, 12:49 AM)
[attachmentid=3539063][attachmentid=3539064]

Please visit mitsubishi-motors.com.my
Get ur facts correct before u make up story please

Lancer GT does not comes with ASC (VSC)
Lancer sportnack only have ASC
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post Jul 17 2013, 08:21 AM

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QUOTE(Gouki @ Jul 17 2013, 01:44 AM)
even if we give you the benefit of the doubt. let say we agree lancer gt has 1385kg and its the ultimate truth. it is only difference by 50kg and that will be only 3.6%. so meaning the inspira has 96.4% of similarity to lancer right? what is the big hoohaa you trying to make here? nobody says inspira = lancer 100%. it is a CKD based lancer with a rebadge in malaysia. MMC had mentioned in press media that they only allow proton to tweak the suspension for handling they like, not changing the suspension layout or making some new design out of it. the tweaking they meant even for laymen is basically 3 simple things such as spring, absorber and anti roll bars. thats all. MMC allow proton to redesign the front and rear bumpers as well and other minor cosmetic items like the tiny rear spoiler n side skirts that didnt affect the actual design of the exterior body parts. but at least we know, the main thing like the full chassis, engine, gearbox and main wiring/electronic components are from mitsubishi. yes, in the process of CKD, some minor parts might be manufactured by local manufacturers according to spec.

in this CKD process, its the same thing going on for other local CKD Honda and Toyota, even your local CKD Naza-Kia cars have their parts locally manufactured too. why u never make a big hoohaa for those but Inspira? iszit because of the Proton badge? if yes, then you are no different than from those who make big foul cry in lancer forum when Proton launch the Inspira back then. like a bunch of kids crying for buying more expensive candy than other kids. if you are so great, go make your stand for Hyundai Carnival owners back then due to CKD Naza Ria. you know why Lancer still can dispose some of their Lancer? coz of ppl like u, the badge makes wonder, but its your money to burn for that extra 40k. pffttt! doh.gif
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+1

Reminder..
we never says lancer GT = inspira
We from day 1 told jayraptor the difference lies on the absorber and spring and anti roll bar.. Is him making the hoohaa yet turn one big round and come back with a 50kg metal bar @ anti roll bar.
we told him weight diff doesnt means chassis diff..he keep turning and turning with the GL and GT diff chassis and now says Same.

its funny how he look around the globe for a near 1385kg as he claim.. He found thailand one 1375 so he used that instead. Aussie one 1360 VRX summore @ 2.4L enginr but he dun wan refer. Malaysia site 1360 GT he dun wan refer. Proton site inspira 1350, he dun wan refer..
but sawadeekaaapp

Claiming inspira owner whom giving him fact ast parasites while he is the hero!

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post Jul 17 2013, 08:36 AM

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QUOTE(jayraptor @ Jul 17 2013, 12:40 AM)
Lancer GL or GT, the difference lies in the grill, dashboard trim, suspension and engine tuning. Also GT has full bodykit. Elsewhere, they have Lancer GLS that is the GL with added bodykit but kerb weight remain at 1335kg as the addition doesn't weigh more than 1kg. In terms of handling, GL or GLS can't match Lancer GT as done by group of enthusiasts in Thailand. Woot woot.... Inspira is based on Lancer GL's tech, therfore, it can't match Lancer GT neither. Elsewhere, the Lancer GL comes with VSC therefore, Inspira can't beat GL neither.
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I not sure you learn about density for steel or not anyway.... Just hope that i not going wrong laugh.gif

V (Volume) = m (Mass) x p (Density)

Steel's density is about 7700kg/m^3

if you claim that the metal bar is 50 kg
then the calculation call be below

V = 50kg x 7700kg/m^3
V = 0.006 m^3

with the cube root of 0.006m^3 then you'll have 0.180m solid cube block do you have any idea how big is a 0.180m cube?

this is based on a cube if you go to the shape some like "rod" like the antiroll bar the diameter even bigger and the length even longer

Lancer anti roll bar 20mm (diameter)

V = h (height) x pi (3.142) x r^2 (radius)

thus,

0.006m^3 = h x 3.142 x 0.01^2

h = 0.006m^3 / (3.142 x 0.01^2)

h = 20m

Does the anti looks like it has 20m in length?

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post Jul 17 2013, 09:10 AM

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QUOTE(edison1437 @ Jul 17 2013, 08:36 AM)
I not sure you learn about density for steel or not anyway.... Just hope that i not going wrong laugh.gif

V (Volume) = m (Mass) x p (Density)

Steel's density is about 7700kg/m^3

if you claim that the metal bar is 50 kg
then the calculation call be below

V = 50kg x 7700kg/m^3
V = 0.006 m^3

with the cube root of 0.006m^3 then you'll have 0.180m solid cube block do you have any idea how big is  a 0.180m cube?

this is based on a cube if you go to the shape some like "rod" like the antiroll bar the diameter even bigger and the length even longer

Lancer anti roll bar 20mm (diameter)

V = h (height) x pi (3.142) x r^2 (radius)

thus,

0.006m^3 = h x 3.142 x 0.01^2

h = 0.006m^3 / (3.142 x 0.01^2)

h = 20m

Does the anti looks like it has 20m in length?
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saaawaaadeeekaaappp

no need explain so technical.. He also dun understand... Parasites

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post Jul 17 2013, 09:16 AM

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Summarize for TS...

Jayraptor finally concluded..

Lancer GL = Lancer GT

Differences
Suspension (anti roll bar absorber spring)
Grill
Engine tuning (previously now same )
Dashboard trim


Suspension - rm3k u can get after market with much better handling
Grill - bodykit u can change 3k budget can do a lot
Engine tuning same dun bother
Dashboard trim repaint for 100-200

Top up 10k for modding la..
Car 86k + 10k
Lancer GT - 129k

Inspira he claim got china smell la..

You do the math
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post Jul 17 2013, 09:23 AM

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QUOTE(K3nnYkl82 @ Jul 17 2013, 09:16 AM)
Summarize for TS...

Jayraptor finally concluded..

Lancer GL = Lancer GT

Differences
Suspension (anti roll bar absorber spring)
Grill
Engine tuning (previously now same )
Dashboard trim
Suspension - rm3k u can get after market with much better handling
Grill - bodykit u can change 3k budget can do a lot
Engine tuning same dun bother
Dashboard trim repaint for 100-200

Top up 10k for modding la..
Car 86k + 10k
Lancer GT - 129k

Inspira he claim got china smell la..

You do the math
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I did the math you said no need to go technical sad.gif
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after reading all the posts, i think jayraptor is trying to make some issues here, by trying to bring up the emotion of the members in FnF, as we know, cars always has a place in every men's heart, especially there are so many cars in the market nowadays, and its affordable, imagine how many of us can drive a 2000cc car 10 years back. So, its is so easy to play emotion here, because evyone hope their car is fastest and best even its in different segment, they are trying to compare as far as they can. and, you can say anything you like in the forum or internet, but do you accept the challenge to see in face and discuss? Pls stop your kimchi salesman talk.

back to the topic, from the first place, none of them claim inspira is lancer gt, in fact some of them don even want to look at lancer gt as its overpriced, do not deny that, as most of us argue on the tax on non-local car, so its a fact lancer gt is overpriced due to tax.

for those who bought inspira and driving inspira, you know the reason why proton says "smart guys get it", when you are driving inspira, you know you are driving one of the best handling car in its class, yes craptor, i am saying inspira and NOT lancer gt, some said inspira even better than lancer gt in overall sedan performance, which most of the lancer owner will not admit it.

if i have a choice, i will still choose inspira, due to the price and performance, its so unbelievable. i m still love my car as in day 1.

Cheers.
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mr J..if u still wanna worship the 50kg heavier arse off LGT, please go & live in Langkawi la..brand new LGT only RM77k..

cheaper than Inspira, topup RM5k than Preve..

why so serious
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QUOTE(ryanso85 @ Jul 17 2013, 09:28 AM)
after reading all the posts, i think jayraptor is trying to make some issues here, by trying to bring up the emotion of the members in FnF, as we know, cars always has a place in every men's heart, especially there are so many cars in the market nowadays, and its affordable, imagine how many of us can drive a 2000cc car 10 years back. So, its is so easy to play emotion here, because evyone hope their car is fastest and best even its in different segment, they are trying to compare as far as they can. and, you can say anything you like in the forum or internet, but do you accept the challenge to see in face and discuss? Pls stop your kimchi salesman talk.

back to the topic, from the first place, none of them claim inspira is lancer gt, in fact some of them don even want to look at lancer gt as its overpriced, do not deny that, as most of us argue on the tax on non-local car, so its a fact lancer gt is overpriced due to tax.

for those who bought inspira and driving inspira, you know the reason why proton says "smart guys get it", when you are driving inspira, you know you are driving one of the best handling car in its class, yes craptor, i am saying inspira and NOT lancer gt, some said inspira even better than lancer gt in overall sedan performance, which most of the lancer owner will not admit it.

if i have a choice, i will still choose inspira, due to the price and performance, its so unbelievable. i m still love my car as in day 1.

Cheers.
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QUOTE(ngjx @ Jul 17 2013, 10:09 AM)
Not another p1 salesman.... shakehead.gif
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post Jul 17 2013, 10:44 AM

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QUOTE(ryanso85 @ Jul 17 2013, 10:37 AM)
professional senior technical engineer proton sales man...  biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(ryanso85 @ Jul 17 2013, 10:37 AM)
professional senior technical engineer...  biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(K3nnYkl82 @ Jul 17 2013, 08:21 AM)
+1

Reminder..
we never says lancer GT = inspira
We from day 1 told jayraptor the difference lies on the absorber and spring and anti roll bar.. Is him making the hoohaa yet turn one big round and come back with a 50kg metal bar @ anti roll bar.
we told him weight diff doesnt means chassis diff..he keep turning and turning with the GL and GT diff chassis and now says Same.

its funny how he look around the globe for a near 1385kg as he claim.. He found thailand one 1375 so he used that instead. Aussie one 1360 VRX summore @ 2.4L enginr but he dun wan refer. Malaysia site 1360 GT he dun wan refer. Proton site inspira 1350, he dun wan refer..
but sawadeekaaapp

Claiming inspira owner proton salesman whom giving him fact ast parasites while he is the hero!
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post Jul 17 2013, 11:43 AM

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Fiesta,208,and Prius c r not being discussed.putkeymug..derailed 99 punya thread..

Even my friend used to own lancer gt also said he himself sohai ad😁.but instead of comparing between lancer and inspira,he upgraded to BMW 320i to cure his sohainess..

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