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 [WTA]Fiesta vs 208 vs Inspira vs Prius C, <RM90k car for Single late 20s male

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K3nnYkl82
post Jul 16 2013, 08:21 AM

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I was aslept last night..

Okay post with proper language..

At first he says DIFF CHASSIS contribute the weight
Now he divert to rims other parts and so on. Yet so many parts he says diff but he can assure chassis diff due to the chassis

Jayraptor! You got my respect! I rest my case...

Chinese saying "Dead bite alive" .. I would says he is more kudos than that (its a complement, u shouldnt be a vet, a lawyer would be better. Or vet cum lawyer)

Im chunking my inspira !! For a forte 1.6 four speeder! Anyone wanna swap??? I give free china smell!

This post has been edited by K3nnYkl82: Jul 16 2013, 08:35 AM
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post Jul 16 2013, 08:28 AM

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QUOTE(K3nnYkl82 @ Jul 16 2013, 08:21 AM)
I was aslept last night..

Okay post with proper language..

At first he says DIFF CHASSIS contribute the weight
Now he divert to rims other parts and so on. Yet so many parts he says diff but he can assure chassis diff due to the weight!

Jayraptor! You got my respect! I rest my case...

Chinese saying "Dead bite alive" .. I would says he is more kudos than that (its a complement, u shouldnt be a vet, a lawyer would be better. Or vet cum lawyer)

Im chunking my inspira !! For a forte 1.6 four speeder! Anyone wanna swap??? I give free china smell!
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auto wor ai meh~?
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post Jul 16 2013, 08:36 AM

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im not sure about everybody, but Im dislike the CVT gearbox, no matter whether it from Proton, Honda, Audi, etc2.

it seems like u ride a scooter.

the the cvt fluid is bit expansive than normal auto gearbox oil.
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post Jul 16 2013, 08:59 AM

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QUOTE(ckk125 @ Jul 16 2013, 06:43 AM)
he has now gone with the smell(fart)
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QUOTE(ayamxxx @ Jul 16 2013, 08:36 AM)
im not sure about everybody, but Im dislike the CVT gearbox, no matter whether it from Proton, Honda, Audi, etc2.

it seems like u ride a scooter.

the the cvt fluid is bit expansive than normal auto gearbox oil.
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CVT with manual mode would be an acceptable compromise for me personally. Won't be as sharp as a dual-clutch, but at least I have the option of reverting back to normal CVT mode for the comfort.

CVT fluid is more expensive than ATF, but the service interval is at least twice the duration of a normal AT as well, so the cost difference is not as high as you think. But if you're rich you can do as often as you like brows.gif
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post Jul 16 2013, 09:06 AM

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Oh I know where he got 50 kg bar..

Its from his forte! biggrin.gif

Right, jayraptor? Hehe
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post Jul 16 2013, 09:08 AM

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QUOTE(dares @ Jul 16 2013, 08:59 AM)
gi cari more professionals kot whistling.gif
CVT with manual mode would be an acceptable compromise for me personally. Won't be as sharp as a dual-clutch, but at least I have the option of reverting back to normal CVT mode for the comfort.

CVT fluid is more expensive than ATF, but the service interval is at least twice the duration of a normal AT as well, so the cost difference is not as high as you think. But if you're rich you can do as often as you like  brows.gif
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Cvt is build for comfort in the first place. Not for u to feel the G ..

**pstt not professional advice okay.



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post Jul 16 2013, 09:11 AM

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weight? why no 1 consider mijilin driving the car... LGT got sexy japs model driving it.. inspilala got mijilin.. 50kg is nothing much lar..

Pls dun be rude to our fren J k...
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post Jul 16 2013, 09:12 AM

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I seriously cant brain him..

He started claiming inspira many localize parts and lancer gl chassis..

We explain many mitsu parts .. major parts localize are absorber springs and anti roll bar..

He further rage tell we lies.. then he consult his so call professional fren. Whom tell him "the bar connecting left right arm" . He happily come back and says us dumb. (We actually told him the roll bar are diff in the first place)

Then he further claim the metal beam of his have 50kg weight. Nzh shown him G37 one 6.4kg.. lolzz. Then he divert to says othr parts contribute the 50kg. Initially insist the beam.

Speechless
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post Jul 16 2013, 09:17 AM

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QUOTE(K3nnYkl82 @ Jul 16 2013, 09:08 AM)
Cvt is build for comfort in the first place. Not for u to feel the G ..

**pstt not professional advice okay.
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Not wanting to feel the G, but the occasional need for instant access to torque eg. when overtaking, then have that option lor instead of fully auto CVT like the Saga.

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post Jul 16 2013, 09:19 AM

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QUOTE(dares @ Jul 16 2013, 09:17 AM)
Not wanting to feel the G, but the occasional need for instant access to torque eg. when overtaking, then have that option lor instead of fully auto CVT like the Saga.
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The method how the GB is connected to the engine plays a big role lo. Torque convertor u will feel more sluggish but more comfort of coz more power lost
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post Jul 16 2013, 09:24 AM

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wow~ u guys really having fun in my post man~

anyway, im looking for for the coming New Fiesta... until then only decide which one to go for~~

Inspira 2013 vs Fiesta 2014 vs Inspira 2014 (if any)
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post Jul 16 2013, 09:26 AM

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QUOTE(K3nnYkl82 @ Jul 16 2013, 09:19 AM)
The method how the GB is connected to the engine plays a big role lo. Torque convertor u will feel more sluggish but more comfort of coz more power lost
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After experiencing 2 cars with automatic clutches....I don't mind going back to torque converter sweat.gif

But ultimately I will still wanna get back to driving a manual if I can afford a second car now. wub.gif
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post Jul 16 2013, 09:32 AM

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QUOTE(LeoWillis @ Jul 16 2013, 09:24 AM)
wow~ u guys really having fun in my post man~

anyway, im looking for for the coming New Fiesta... until then only decide which one to go for~~

Inspira 2013 vs Fiesta 2014 vs Inspira 2014 (if any)
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Fiesta looks good bro.
U dun hope for new inspira. They going more localize. Although not on major components but reduce the capability to mode tongue.gif

Dares.. automatic clutch jerky right? But response more instant
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QUOTE(dares @ Jul 16 2013, 09:26 AM)
After experiencing 2 cars with automatic clutches....I don't mind going back to torque converter  sweat.gif

But ultimately I will still wanna get back to driving a manual if I can afford a second car now. wub.gif
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Bro u need a 1.8mt test drive?
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post Jul 16 2013, 09:40 AM

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so, where is the 50kg?

im thinking to get a new car as well......
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post Jul 16 2013, 09:44 AM

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QUOTE(kennypotatoes @ Jul 16 2013, 09:40 AM)
so, where is the 50kg?

im thinking to get a new car as well......
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i'm thinking of re-condition my dad's clubman brows.gif
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post Jul 16 2013, 09:52 AM

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QUOTE(jayraptor @ Jul 15 2013, 10:58 PM)
You are the dumb here. You wanted facts, I checked with professional and gave the answer from him. Yet you go mad and personal. Can't face the fact still? What else do you need? That is the part that we are debating here and you out of nowhere go and talk about the arm. Aiseh!

Talking to people like you have to use downgraded to basic English. Else, you would misinterpret and think aftermarket something else. Do you know what is swaybar?

You can go lift the BMW 5-series, Mazda 3/6, Lancer GT rear suspension METAL BAR (try not to use jargon with dumb KIASU like you) then you come and tell me how heavy. You think that Metal BAR so light? The so called lighter Torsion Beam one is not that light neither.

Then can you explain where the 50kg come from? The rims and wheels ain't that much big difference from 16" wheels neither. The spoiler? FYI, FF cars that wanted to improve handling, they would distribute more weight to the rear by adding more metal to the back. OK?
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QUOTE(jayraptor @ Jul 15 2013, 11:32 PM)
Yes, sway bar is anti-roll bar. Even the cheap aftermarket thingy bought from kaki motor or brothers is also called anti-roll bar that is real light and fit to Wira suspension. Avoid using the word anti-roll bar or sway bar seems it led to confusion to many. Just call the bone like bar in the rear METAL BAR for the time being. How many of you really remove the entire rear suspension set and try to lift with hands for real?

By the way, despite so many disagreement, how come none ever mention where did the 50kg extra weight in Lancer GT come from? Inspira & Lancer GL are actually at the same weight at 1335kg while Lancer GT at 1385kg. Back then people said its the bodykit which is incorrect. Then they relook to the chassis, they don't find anything different between GT & GL. Exhaust pipe, resonator, catalytic convertor and manifold also not that heavy.  Where else?
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I don't think you guys realise how friggin heavy 50kg is. I can set for youa barbell with that weight and you try lifting it with one hand.
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post Jul 16 2013, 09:56 AM

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QUOTE(K3nnYkl82 @ Jul 16 2013, 09:32 AM)
Dares.. automatic clutch jerky right? But response more instant
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Jerky at low speeds, but like a manual GB can feel the pull more directly unlike torque converter AT.

Fiesta's dual-clutch is so-so only, no manual mode vmad.gif Not as responsive as VW's DSG either but OK la, RM85k for a dual-clutch tranny, I can live with that.

QUOTE(jnick @ Jul 16 2013, 09:40 AM)
Bro u need a 1.8mt test drive?
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Your car ar? I no money buy CDM busuk car now sad.gif
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QUOTE(mikehuan @ Jul 16 2013, 09:52 AM)
I don't think you guys realise how friggin heavy 50kg is. I can set for youa barbell with that weight and you try lifting it with one hand.
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my limit 40kg one hand up to waist.. but I've seen ppl lifting more than 40kg ... doing the chest press or whatever they call it.. each hand more than 40kg.. but the guy also is as big as a tree lar..
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post Jul 16 2013, 09:59 AM

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QUOTE(mikehuan @ Jul 16 2013, 09:52 AM)
I don't think you guys realise how friggin heavy 50kg is. I can set for youa barbell with that weight and you try lifting it with one hand.
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he thinks the anti-roll-bar @ his term Metal beam is more heavier than the rim!

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for your info .. the inspira rim weight 9.8kg each .

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SORRY MR Jay .. i really do not know the little metal can weight so much notworthy.gif

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