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 [WTA]Fiesta vs 208 vs Inspira vs Prius C, <RM90k car for Single late 20s male

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TSLeoWillis
post Jul 6 2013, 08:22 PM, updated 13y ago

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Waiting for the 1.5L Fiesta this year & 1.0L Fiesta next year before make decision.

For now...
1st choice - 2.0E Inspira
2nd choice - 1.0L Fiesta
3rd choice - 1.5L Fiesta



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This post has been edited by LeoWillis: Aug 11 2013, 08:22 PM
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post Jul 6 2013, 08:37 PM

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QUOTE(stinger82 @ Jul 6 2013, 08:30 PM)
car 1,2,3 are fun to drive.

fast car? 3.

but i have seen car 4 doing 180kmh and cucuk all the way, so...its really up to u and salesman
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for city drive(with so many corners & traffic lights), I consider all 3 cars as fast car...Except in highway
then i should see which salesman service me better & giving me better offer~ lol biggrin.gif


QUOTE(dares @ Jul 6 2013, 08:30 PM)
What is the difference between Fiesta 1.6 S 2013 and 2014?

We're not even sure yet which variant will arrive at our shores for the facelift.
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true, it's not announce yet. But based on the Europe ver & US ver, the "Aston Martin" grille like Fiesta is really is a charm... I hope the 2014 ver. provide even more & better interior from the 2013 ver.
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post Jul 6 2013, 09:04 PM

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QUOTE(ironfolic @ Jul 6 2013, 08:39 PM)
Maintenance for Inspira is not cheap... If I am still single, will go for Fiesta or 208. thumbup.gif
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Although I don't have actual facts. But i think the small cc continental cars are as expensive as the 2.0cc inspira.


QUOTE(stinger82 @ Jul 6 2013, 08:41 PM)
those 1.6 car are not fast in city. even 2.0 are not fast.

those milotin car like myvi/vios are fast in city.
i suggest you try each car with 3 test drives with frens around, because if you test drive with 1 round and high speed test means nothing. try corner corner at the shop area, traffic light, and bring frens.

just do more test drives. it help. btw, aston martin grill on small car is  shakehead.gif  even the grill on cerato  kia(looks better on K5) is not favorable to many.

do endless of test drives, until you smile when you imagine you really driving that car, then, thats the car you want.
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lol, thanks for the advise... I would try it when i reduce the shortlist to 2 cars... rclxms.gif
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post Jul 6 2013, 10:29 PM

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QUOTE(kadajawi @ Jul 6 2013, 09:59 PM)
Have you considered the Fiesta sedan? The looks is... not so nice, but you get much better safety features (since that may decide whether you'll be alive or not a few years down the road I'd consider it important smile.gif ). Price is a bit lower than the Fiesta Sport.
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you mean more airbags?? i think these extra airbags are for the sake of the passanger...lol

QUOTE(chemistry @ Jul 6 2013, 10:17 PM)
does fiesta sedan come with ESC?
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i believe in Ford, they called it ESP
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post Jul 6 2013, 11:19 PM

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QUOTE(dares @ Jul 6 2013, 10:39 PM)
Yes
The driver will benefit from the side airbag, curtain airbags and knee airbag as well.
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icic... but i don't trust these airbags anyway, even though scientific proven it is true~ tongue.gif
most important is, the sedan looks.... yucks rclxub.gif


QUOTE(jayraptor @ Jul 6 2013, 10:56 PM)
Back to TS request:
If this car is his only source of bread car where every1 depends on, he should void hybrid at all cost. Based on his list, I suggest he go for Fiesta for handling, safety, easy drive, reliability/durability, FC and ease of maintenance.

If he really wanted C-segment to ferry parents around and wanted hassle free, go for Elantra 1.6. If he finds C-segment 1.6L not enough power, he can consider old Forte 2.0L if he doesn't mind being phased out soon.
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Thanks for your suggestion. But i don't understand about the "source of bread" part. Do you mean it has a higher maintenance cost?


QUOTE(stinger82 @ Jul 6 2013, 10:58 PM)
u dont go 0-100 in city, city. remember, city. stop and go.

and the 0.3S is typical korean bs la.

0-60 can forte or elantra beat any milotin like myvi/vios ??

see my avatar.
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You got the point though sweat.gif
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post Jul 6 2013, 11:49 PM

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QUOTE(jayraptor @ Jul 6 2013, 11:32 PM)
Hi LeoWillis,
Source of bread is like breadwinner. Meaning that you'll depend on the car for going to work, fetching brother, sister or parents around where that car must keep running and running without breakdown. If without the car, you will have hard time, example if you do outdoor marketing where you need that car to move from places to meet clients, etc. If this is your only car, you should focus on cars with easy maintenance.

Airbags are proven as there's 1 idiot I knew that often got into serious accident for reckless driving. He said airbags saved him few times. Feel like wanted to tear his driving license preventing him from driving forever than let him endangering innocents.

Ignore stinger82, at 1 time he said going fast is important and at the other end, he said 0-100km/h is not important under city driving. Don't know what he wanted. Acceleration 0-100km/h and handling are not meant for reckless driving but for safety especially in defensive driving. You'll need them to safely evade unexpected obstacle and to get you out of harm's way.
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i understand what is source of bread. So, you mean the Prius C are harder to maintenance?

'cause from what i see in the LYN Prius C club, the maintenance cost is quite affordable. Just not sure about the "easy maintenance" you meant compare to conventional car~

i believe stinger82 has his point, as what i mentioned was using the car for city drive. For handling, i haven't try about the Prius C. But for the 3 cars yes, decent handling especially the 208, where i felt it when hard cornering at around 90kmh when test drive. (the only test car done this)
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post Jul 7 2013, 12:26 AM

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QUOTE(jayraptor @ Jul 7 2013, 12:14 AM)
Are you rich in the first place? If you don't have problem forking out RM30k if anything goes wrong after warranty ended and this is your spare car, then you can go for hybrid.

If you go for hybrid, you'll have to stick to it for long term till end as its RV will not be good. Those who buy used cars aren't so rich and they ain't gonna risk buying hybrid at the moment.

Remember, warranty is not guarantee and you still have to pay for maintenance and spare parts. Battery is not issue but the electric engine, inverter, high tech electronic components/modules are your concern.

As our local technician/foreman are highly underpaid like blue collar job earning only RM1.5k after working over 5 years despite highly educated, most of them won't stay in the field for long. This means there won't be many experienced engineers in SC and anything faulty, they'll ask you to replace the parts rather than fixing it. Hybrid cars if involved in accident, will have much to worry should there be collateral damage to nobody knows how to fix electronic parts, undetected at that time of insurance claim. This is why they have tax exemption on hybrid cars as they know many won't dare to buy unless rich.

Check with SC directly for the interval service cost and also check spare part price with those spare part suppliers outside to evaluate cost of overall maintenance and ownership before you even think of buying any of the cars.
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got it, thanks for the details explanation~

This is a strong point where i need to put into consideration. Anyway, i'm going for a testdrive tomorrow & try to ask about the questions u've mentioned (at least some of the questions biggrin.gif )
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post Jul 7 2013, 10:32 AM

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QUOTE(kadajawi @ Jul 7 2013, 12:31 AM)
30k? Honda already said 4k for the battery, and the Prius won't be so much more expensive. Also, the Prius 1 and 3 were very reliable, perhaps the C is too. Toyota has invested a lot into these cars, unlike cars like the Vios which were probably very cheap to develop. The Yaris (Vios hatchback) isn't very reliable, the Prius is extremely reliable.

But yes, mechanics may not be able to handle them...

As for airbags: They work very well, and especially side airbags are crucial IMHO. Of course you do need to wear your seatbelt at all times, while that is important for all cars it is even more so with airbags, as they can kill you if you don't wear your seatbelt (though you'll probably die anyway). Yes, even at slow speeds, like 30 km/h not wearing your seatbelt can be deadly.

As for feeling fast: A Kancil will make you feel like a racing driver at 80. A Mercedes S class will feel slower than that at 250. laugh.gif
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QUOTE(dtna7 @ Jul 7 2013, 08:50 AM)
my Prius regular maintenance is dirt cheap, may be even cheaper than a Vios as not much wear and tear parts to replace. Beltless operation, electric motor is zero maintenance, in case you never bothered to check. that 30k you mentioned will probably fit more for less known for durability brands that will have gearbox/engine problems.  blush.gif
(Prius with engine braking tech allows the brake pads to be replaced at 100k miles ~160k km, mine has reached 50k+ and still need not replace)

3 million Toyota hybrids now on the road and Toyota will have problems such as insufficient technician/foreman to service their own hybrid? Like it or not, technicians/foreman will have to upgrade to follow the trend, the same goes with turbo engines. SkyActiv is another new type of engine. People adapt, if they don't they are left out and opportunity arises for others. I seriously we shouldn't be having this kind of thinking and stick with the old NA ICE.

I know generally Malaysians are ignorant about tech, but even in FnF?  doh.gif
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QUOTE(dtna7 @ Jul 7 2013, 09:06 AM)
TS, i chose Prius C for you due to the following reasons. (As i have first hand experience with my Prius)

**Pros**
-Reliable Engine (Taken for Prius mk1 1.5L, tuned & upgraded for current Prius C)
-No 1 fuel saver car, easily reach 22-25km/L (~4L/100km)
-7 Airbags
-CBU Japan
-Good CVT transmission (Much better than my mom's CRZ, sorry CRZ fans/owners. They don't jerk and they are very reliable, just look up e-CVT design @Google.
-Great discount now, who knows if the tax exemption will ever be renewed for next year?
-Saves alot of $$$, BN is struggling to keep RON95 @RM1.90
-Regenerative braking, you rarely need to change your brake pads, how cool is that? tongue.gif
-Travel locally more with your family without worrying about petrol price! tongue.gif

**Cons**
-Not very likeable interior, apparently your $$$ goes under the hood more
-Subjective rear exterior design (I don't like it too)
-Not trying to be biased here, but nothing comes up anymore

Prius HSD is about efficiency, though performance aren't really lacking with all that torque from the electric motor, but it isn't exactly cutting everyone else too.

Your $$$, your choice smile.gif
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Thanks for the advise~ biggrin.gif

Im going to visit the showroom later~ thumbup.gif
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post Jul 8 2013, 08:15 PM

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any more flaming & poisoning?? xD
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post Jul 15 2013, 01:03 PM

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wow~ my post became a battlefield~ cool2.gif

anyway, i'm waiting for the new Fiesta which might be coming out in AUgust.

The reduced price Jazz are attractive, but is not in my consideration...yet...

after the launching of Fiesta, only then i decide which car to choose for.

p/s: my first choice will be the inspira 2.0P for now... rclxms.gif
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post Jul 16 2013, 09:24 AM

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wow~ u guys really having fun in my post man~

anyway, im looking for for the coming New Fiesta... until then only decide which one to go for~~

Inspira 2013 vs Fiesta 2014 vs Inspira 2014 (if any)
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post Jul 17 2013, 11:06 PM

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Ford Fiesta!!! the conti smell!!!! I shall wait for it 1st~

Meanwhile, please have fun shooting each another in my post~~~

This post has been edited by LeoWillis: Jul 17 2013, 11:06 PM
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post Jul 20 2013, 09:44 AM

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u guys really p1 salesmans lah~

oh, no no~ is the engineers ~~ can answer so many technical question...

i wan lepot... too many p1 salemans flooding my thread... haha
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post Aug 11 2013, 08:21 PM

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QUOTE(one punch man @ Aug 11 2013, 07:38 PM)
Hi leo
may i know where u get below offer? bcoz the highest rebate i get is only rm7k. thx
proton inspira 2.0p
-high rebate/disc, up to 8k + other bonus (2013 ver)
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correction... 7k+-
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post Aug 12 2013, 03:13 PM

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QUOTE(one punch man @ Aug 12 2013, 03:05 PM)
haha i search hi n lo for 8k discount...guess now can settle with 7k

btw in the end which car u bought?
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Still considering... waiting for the launching of Fiesta 2013
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