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 PROTON SAVVY LYN club, D4F, JB1 repair manual inside

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post Aug 22 2007, 03:41 AM

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QUOTE(Matrix @ Aug 19 2007, 02:10 PM)
WQK xxxx. smile.gif

Just have my first drive just now from Mutiara.

Ist stop at Shell petrol station.....unfortunately can't open petrol cover! (very embarrasing..)...quickly called  SA and asked him should i turn left or right to open cover...he said anti-clockwise and even offered to drive over to help me...i said no need, i try first. So it turned it anti-clockwise...managed to open it but it's quite hard to turn ler...Is it normal??? My wife will definitely going to hate this...

Ok, then continue with driving home. So far so good, i've hit 100km/h max (i try not to go over 90km/h as the Myvi burn-in period recommendation is 90km/h).

Oh yeah...what is this complaining by some Savvy owner engine loud ar? Ok mah...where got loud...at 100km/h, it's maybe only slightly louder than my Myvi and not "roaring" as some Savvy drivers said...maybe they used to drive Camry???  tongue.gif  If you want to hear a roar, try driving a Viva 850...even at 2nd and 3rd gear, low speed sounds like lion already.

btw, unfortunately, my new Savvy does not have sound proof material under the front hood... vmad.gif , but on the bright side, since it's not really that loud to begin with and i can further reduce the noise later with some padding. smile.gif

When i reached home, i checked the manual and found that the recommended max speed for burn in period is actually 110km/h for the Savvy... thumbup.gif ...also has recommended gear and speed but who the heck can remember that....so i'll just stay within 110km/h before 1st service. smile.gif

btw, it comes with an immobilizer alarm in the key(has a chip inside).  thumbup.gif

Well, in terms of driving experience, i'm sure glad i didn't buy a VIVA. Now i just hope it's more reliable than a SAGA. Gulp.  sweat.gif
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at 100km/h still ok la rpm around 3200..
once u hit 120 and above...wahh have to turn up the radio volumes, my parents think im going fast despite the fact that im not that fast. not good for me as i usually drove 120-150 everytime im on da highway.

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post Aug 22 2007, 11:20 AM

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Thank you for the price list.
Which workshop doing it? Do I need to buy the kit separately? Any authorised SC? I believe the RM850 quoted include other extras.

QUOTE(hypermount @ Aug 21 2007, 06:16 PM)
It costs only RM300 plus for complete kit: belt, bearings, oil seal etc, Proton original and Renault sourced from outside cost around that before the price reduction, can get cheaper now especially the Renault brand. Authorised SC will charge RM100 for the labour, since taking out the front right wheel will enable you to access the timing belt easily, labour should be much cheaper a bit outside.

Branded third party from Dayco and Gates with complete kit cost RM380, that will last 100k km compare to Proton original 60k km. For these belts, there's a warranty card to be fill in in case problem arises later.
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QUOTE(phas3r @ Aug 22 2007, 03:41 AM)
at 100km/h still ok la rpm around 3200..
once u hit 120 and above...wahh have to turn up the radio volumes, my parents think im going fast despite the fact that im not that fast. not good for me as i usually drove 120-150 everytime im on da highway.
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wow~ that is fast man~ 120-150, just wondering when you go to airport will you speed to the top or not ??? ha!! just want to ask about the sound padding thing does it making to sound proof ?? meaning lesser engine sound ????
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post Aug 22 2007, 03:04 PM

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QUOTE(biggie @ Aug 22 2007, 11:20 AM)
Thank you for the price list.
Which workshop doing it? Do I need to buy the kit separately? Any authorised SC? I believe the RM850 quoted include other extras.
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I mean any outside mechanics can do the timing belt change with proper torque at cheaper cost. My authorized EON sc branch here charge RM100 for the labour. Yes any spare part shops are selling the kits - you can get the Dayco from this guy.

http://www.savoc.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=2699

QUOTE(Nel @ Aug 22 2007, 12:41 PM)
wow~ that is fast man~ 120-150, just wondering when you go to airport will you speed to the top or not ??? ha!! just want to ask about the sound padding thing does it making to sound proof ?? meaning lesser engine sound ????
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Around 120-130km/h is the sweetest spot for savvy. going 160km/h still stable for this little car.

About the sound insulation padding - even putting dynamats on it doesn't really make a difference. maybe just want to decrease the temperature to preserve the bonnet paint finish. Old lines comes with padding on the bonnet and firewall. Padding on the firewall maybe works a bit to reduce the engine noise. But some old lines didn't have them also. 100% sure all new facelifted savvys have this paddings but Matrix said his car doesn't have any.
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QUOTE(hypermount @ Aug 22 2007, 03:04 PM)
I mean any outside mechanics can do the timing belt change with proper torque at cheaper cost. My authorized EON sc branch here charge RM100 for the labour. Yes any spare part shops are selling the kits - you can get the Dayco from this guy.

http://www.savoc.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=2699
Around 120-130km/h is the sweetest spot for savvy. going 160km/h still stable for this little car.

About the sound insulation padding - even putting dynamats on it doesn't really make a difference. maybe just want to decrease the temperature to preserve the bonnet paint finish. Old lines comes with padding on the bonnet and firewall. Padding on the firewall maybe works a bit to reduce the engine noise. But some old lines didn't have them also. 100% sure all new facelifted savvys have this paddings but Matrix said his car doesn't have any.
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Yep, no padding on bonnet, haven't check firewall yet. Hey! Benjamin! What about yours? Any padding on bonnet? If you do, please take a picture and I'm going to complain to the SA!

btw, my FC seems quite bad...left 2 bars at about 270km!! shocking.gif I'm still not sure how much the last 2 bar can go though. Maybe it's still new....but somehow i suspect the Shell Petrol at SPRINT highway....i remember my MYVI also seems having less mileage a month ago when i pumped a few times there which after i changed to Caltex and now BHP. I'm switching to BHP once this tank of Shell runs out.

Also, there seems to be jerking at 2nd gear below 20km/h...is this normal??

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post Aug 22 2007, 08:02 PM

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the last 2 bars have lower capacity compare to the higher bar. they made the bar longer on the upper with purpose wink.gif
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QUOTE(Matrix @ Aug 22 2007, 07:46 PM)
Yep, no padding on bonnet, haven't check firewall yet. Hey! Benjamin! What about yours? Any padding on bonnet? If you do, please take a picture and I'm going to complain to the SA!

btw, my FC seems quite bad...left 2 bars at about 270km!!  shocking.gif I'm still not sure how much the last 2 bar can go though. Maybe it's still new....but somehow i suspect the Shell Petrol at SPRINT highway....i remember my MYVI also seems having less mileage a month ago when i pumped a few times there which after i changed to Caltex and now BHP. I'm switching to BHP once this tank of Shell runs out.

Also, there seems to be jerking at 2nd gear below 20km/h...is this normal??
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Refuel full tank after the light comes out, so we'll know how much petrol is being consumed. One of the low point of Savvy is the inaccuracy of the digital fuel gauge interface.

Did you experience 2nd gear jerking all the time?


Added on August 22, 2007, 8:09 pmAt most you could only refuel 28 litre of petrol when the low fuel light comes out. That's how being set to preserve the fuel pump I guess. Just refuel full tank to see.


QUOTE(soulfly @ Aug 22 2007, 08:02 PM)
the last 2 bars have lower capacity compare to the higher bar. they made the bar longer on the upper with purpose wink.gif
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Actually the other way round for Savvy - Last 3 bars has more capacity.

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QUOTE(hypermount @ Aug 22 2007, 08:06 PM)
Refuel full tank after the light comes out, so we'll know how much petrol is being consumed. One of the low point of Savvy is the inaccuracy of the digital fuel gauge interface.

Did you experience 2nd gear jerking all the time?
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Only today and when the km/h below 20km/h. If i'm below 20km/h, i'll have to rev it up a bit more to make it reach 20km/h and there'll not be jerks. rclxub.gif I think this is when i was stuck in a jam and the speed is < 20km/h and i switched to gear 2.

And yeah, the fuel gauge is nuts. Sometimes it can climb back up the bar. Never happened such thing with my Myvi.

And just checked, there's paddings in the firewall.

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post Aug 22 2007, 08:30 PM

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QUOTE(Matrix @ Aug 22 2007, 08:11 PM)
Only today and when the km/h below 20km/h. If i'm below 20km/h, i'll have to rev it up a bit more to make it reach 20km/h and there'll not be jerks.  rclxub.gif I think this is when i was stuck in a jam and the speed is < 20km/h and i switched to gear 2.

And yeah, the fuel gauge is nuts. Sometimes it can climb back up the bar. Never happened such thing with my Myvi.

And just checked, there's paddings in the firewall.
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Cos Proton is using a float sensor. If the level of petrol inside the tank shifts a bit, it will affect the sensor. Doesn't mean it's a bad design, just different.

I remember when I first got my Savvy, I need to use gear 1 to go thru bump unlike other cars where 2nd gear is already sufficient. Could be the gear ratio.

If you're having jerking intermittently, before you start the engine where your ignition key is in the ON position, you have to wait for all the warning lights like the check engine indicator to go off first..then start the engine. Air con, radio need to turn off first also before starting the engine.

Dirty throttle body, TDC/Speed sensor are the reasonn for hard to start and jerking problems.
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QUOTE(hypermount @ Aug 22 2007, 08:30 PM)
Cos Proton is using a float sensor. If the level of petrol inside the tank shifts a bit, it will affect the sensor. Doesn't mean it's a bad design, just different.

I remember when I first got my Savvy, I need to use gear 1 to go thru bump unlike other cars where 2nd gear is already sufficient. Could be the gear ratio.

If you're having jerking intermittently, before you start the engine where your ignition key is in the ON position, you have to wait for all the warning lights like the check engine indicator to go off first..then start the engine. Air con, radio need to turn off first also before starting the engine.

Dirty throttle body, TDC/Speed sensor are the reasonn for hard to start and jerking problems.
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But this is new car, surely not TB dirty! Yeah, i think it's gear ratio, so far haven't stuck in major jam until today. Do you still use 1st gear when going over bumps? I need to go down to first gear also when going over speed bump.

I'll continue to monitor on the fc and jerk thingy and post feedback here.

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Yes I'm still using gear 1 to go over bumps.

Did you check your tyres when you droveoff from the showroom..some new car tyres were grossly underinflated..make it 10-20 kpa more than the recommended pressure.
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QUOTE(hypermount @ Aug 23 2007, 01:54 AM)
Yes I'm still using gear 1 to go over bumps.

Did you check your tyres when you droveoff from the showroom..some new car tyres were grossly underinflated..make it 10-20 kpa more than the recommended pressure.
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Already pumped my tyres 2nd day with the car. Today i'm driving Myvi, noticed below 20km/h, is still okay with Gear 2. I will test drive somemore the Savvy tomorrow.

What's the pressure u usually put for ur tyres?

I think the specs say 210kpa for front, rear i can't remember...200kpa?

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gearing ratio mostly. Most likely the second gear ratio is too large for the engine to move the car over a bump. Good for drag tho
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Just tested my Savvy just now. Drove for about 1 hour plus, stuck in a jam around Bukit Bintang, but suprisingly, no jerking...everything normal!!!!

I notice even below 20km/h(around 10km/h) also no jerking unlike yesterday. Can also go over bump using Gear 2....

This is weird....rclxub.gif

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QUOTE(hypermount @ Aug 21 2007, 02:06 AM)
Congrats bro  rclxms.gif
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Thanks Bro rclxm9.gif Enjoying =D

QUOTE(Matrix @ Aug 21 2007, 08:45 AM)
Wahh...you sure much faster than me in getting the car.

Pls share ur FC here and see how much you can get for ur first full tank.
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Sure,bro i was away just right after i got my car and just reached MY just now in the afternoon. So dint really drive the car yet biggrin.gif

QUOTE(Matrix @ Aug 22 2007, 07:46 PM)
Yep, no padding on bonnet, haven't check firewall yet. Hey! Benjamin! What about yours? Any padding on bonnet? If you do, please take a picture and I'm going to complain to the SA!

Also, there seems to be jerking at 2nd gear below 20km/h...is this normal??
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I've checked with the SA he says he dint see any Savvy with the padding before on the bonnet. hmm.gif Haha so no worries mine dont have as well yawn.gif
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where there is proton, there is hypermount !
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TLDR.. but i'm guessing the savvy is so-so anyway.
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What do u mean by so-so? unsure.gif
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post Aug 24 2007, 08:16 AM

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who got latest price list for savvy??
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QUOTE(Onso @ Aug 24 2007, 12:25 AM)
TLDR.. but i'm guessing the savvy is so-so anyway.
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What's TLDR??

If savvy is so so, care to recommend me a better car for 37K?? Kancil? Viva? Atos?? Sutera??

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Added on August 24, 2007, 9:48 am
QUOTE(sinhg @ Aug 24 2007, 08:16 AM)
who got latest price list for savvy??
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Don't be so lazy ler. Just go Proton website.

Savvy Lite RM33,xxxx. Savvy M-Line around RM37,xxx (after 3k discount...maybe got more discount later, who knows).

All Savvy has minimum 3K discount except Savvy Lite.

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