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Investment KL TRADERS SQUARE | FLORA RESIDENCY (PHASE 2), Kuala Lumpur has a New Lifestyle Estate

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mplee98
post Aug 19 2015, 10:51 AM

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anyone know when will be the 1st billing for Blk B?

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post Aug 25 2015, 01:13 PM

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QUOTE(Ekash @ Aug 18 2015, 10:58 PM)
This is for KL traders square or others?.price range?
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Don't think is KL Trd Sq as starts from 903sf & near LRT.

KTS starts from 850sf, no LRT nearby, not all unit come with 2 CP, this sound like the project at Ibukota price 5XXK up.
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QUOTE(techno_guy @ Aug 25 2015, 01:13 PM)
Hi , anyone here signed the snp?
Is the unit of carpark stated in the snp?
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Didn't stated in S&P regarding which floor ur car park.After completion only know where is ur car park located
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post Aug 25 2015, 08:53 PM

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QUOTE(jolokia @ Aug 25 2015, 01:26 PM)
Don't think is KL Trd Sq as starts from 903sf & near LRT.

KTS starts from 850sf, no LRT nearby, not all unit come with 2 CP, this sound like the project at Ibukota price 5XXK up.
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9th floor to 18th all come with 1 carpark.19th floor above all come 2 carpark
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post Aug 26 2015, 01:15 AM

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QUOTE(LanEvo8 @ Aug 25 2015, 08:52 PM)
Didn't stated in S&P regarding which floor ur car park.After completion only know where is ur car park located
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Allocation not stated is still acceptable but total unit of carpark to be given to particular unit bought not stated is arguble which also means the carpark will not have strata title and it is not even belong to the purchaser, spoke the the lawyer to demand a newly customized snp specifically due to this matter but was rejected! Loyar said it is only a very cheap unit oh compared to other but i was kind enough to hold my temper and let tht loyar knew that even it is not a million dollar property but all my hard earned money put into that nearly half million something apartment! Loyar didnt say anything after that! To all of you who already signed the snp does it stated how many car park to be given? Size of the tiles? Balcony? Free aircond? Seems scp very good on excluding all these thing and try to not be responsible if anything goes wrong!
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QUOTE(techno_guy @ Aug 26 2015, 01:15 AM)
Allocation not stated is still acceptable but total unit of carpark to be given to particular unit bought not stated is arguble which also means the carpark will not have strata title and it is not even belong to the purchaser, spoke the the lawyer to demand a newly customized snp specifically due to this matter but was rejected! Loyar said it is only a very cheap unit oh compared to other but i was kind enough to hold my temper and let tht loyar knew that even it is not a million dollar property but all my hard earned money put into that nearly half million something apartment! Loyar didnt say anything after that! To all of you who already signed the snp does it stated how many car park to be given? Size of the tiles? Balcony? Free aircond? Seems scp very good on excluding all these thing and try to not be responsible if anything goes wrong!
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Many property never stated car park in their SnP, this is very normal, instead the car park are allocated to individual unit.

Free aircond definitely not stated in the SnP, even when you buy Corn Flakes the free toys also never stated in receipt.. tongue.gif

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post Aug 26 2015, 08:37 AM

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QUOTE(jolokia @ Aug 26 2015, 08:17 AM)
Many property never stated car park in their SnP, this is very normal, instead the car park are allocated to individual unit.

Free aircond definitely not stated in the SnP, even when you buy Corn Flakes the free toys also never stated in receipt..  tongue.gif

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Correct,usually stated how many floor,unit floor,size of your unit,material using and date of completion
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post Aug 26 2015, 08:54 AM

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QUOTE(techno_guy @ Aug 26 2015, 08:54 AM)
Ya, my very first prop
But how are the developer going to know whether i was given 1 or 2 carparks when i bought the apartment
I have been googling around lyn and discovered that most of their developer did included the unit of carparks and even allocation in the snp so this is quite different from what have i signed today, furthermore there is an article by iproperty suggested that unit of carpark should be in black and white rather than verbal promise and if it is not stated in snp means we do not own the carpark but management/ jmb is, theb problem will arise when planning to sell . I can see this scp trying to be very gross and brief about their snp drafting, no really good for the purchasers.
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Maybe the lawyer was right low price property car park not stated in SnP, actually KL Trd Sq is consider cheap by today standard as this is a rare few property launch below 500K in prime location with KL address.

As for the car park is already stated 19th floor up come with either 2 tandem car park or side by side, so the developer will mark which car park is allocate to you later when allocation done, need no worry.

Yes the car just allocate to you legally still belong to the mgmt/jmb, no there is no problem when sales later date, as the car park will not stated in the secondary SnP as well, new buyer can use the same car park previously allocate to you.

Perhaps some member here talking about extra car park they bought.


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post Aug 26 2015, 09:29 AM

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QUOTE(jolokia @ Aug 26 2015, 08:17 AM)
Many property never stated car park in their SnP, this is very normal, instead the car park are allocated to individual unit.

Free aircond definitely not stated in the SnP, even when you buy Corn Flakes the free toys also never stated in receipt..  tongue.gif

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i dunno about you or others, but all my purchases clearly states car park and its location in the SnP.
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post Aug 26 2015, 09:45 AM

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QUOTE(jolokia @ Aug 26 2015, 09:17 AM)
Maybe the lawyer was right low price property car park not stated in SnP, actually KL Trd Sq is consider cheap by today standard as this is a rare few property launch below 500K in prime location with KL address.

As for the car park is already stated 19th floor up come with either 2 tandem car park or side by side, so the developer will mark which car park is allocate to you later when allocation done, need no worry.

Yes the car just allocate to you legally still belong to the mgmt/jmb, no there is no problem when sales later date, as the car park will not stated in the secondary SnP as well, new buyer can use the same car park previously allocate to you.

Perhaps some member here talking about extra car park they bought.
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But after searching thru lyn i found out that many new launch between 300-500k got their carpark lot stated.
This is not the matter about cheap or expensive , its a legally binding contract between buyer and developer so i personally think it is better to put in there black and white for our security.

Without carpark layout is acceptable but quantity of carpark and whether it is tandem or side by side is not putting in snp thats abit fishy, maybe developer lack of confident when doing allocation for carparks so better dont put it in the snp if not later misallocate sure purchaser ask for compensation , haha,

Anyway , r u one of the buyer too?

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post Aug 26 2015, 09:49 AM

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QUOTE(kochin @ Aug 26 2015, 09:29 AM)
i dunno about you or others, but all my purchases clearly states car park and its location in the SnP.
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Quite true, saw many others got theirs included in the snp
Talking about price, dont think it is cheap also 5xxk after rebate for a less than thousand sf apartment with high dense and location gombak but no gk is a little pricey already, no choice , paid booking , was thinking to shift over to bennington which cost slightly higher than kltraders but bigger sf/size

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post Aug 26 2015, 09:49 AM

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I don't know which developer/project you bought, but most reputable project that I've encounter does state how many carpark(some even states which lot/level & its numbering), what kind of appliances & type of fitting that they'll provide for your unit/rooms. This to avoid argument & also a checklist for buyer to go through during VP.
Some may not in SPA but in a supplement document(aka Promo/Offer Package form) that need to be agree(signed) upon purchase.
Even cheap apartment that I've bought few years ago also mention how many carpark lot I entitle(minus where the lot is, lol)

Anyway, its still developer rights to do whatever they deem correct during sales.

P.s: better double confirm in black & white on how many carpark you got. I've encounter a developer did not honor the so call 'verbal' agreement as they say not mention in SPA/Promo/Offer forms.

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post Aug 26 2015, 10:09 AM

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QUOTE(davwon @ Aug 26 2015, 09:49 AM)
I don't know which developer/project you bought, but most reputable project that I've encounter does state how many carpark(some even states which lot/level & its numbering), what kind of appliances & type of fitting that they'll provide for your unit/rooms. This to avoid argument & also a checklist for buyer to go through during VP.
Some may not in SPA but in a supplement document(aka Promo/Offer Package form) that need to be agree(signed) upon purchase.
Even cheap apartment that I've bought few years ago also mention how many carpark lot I entitle(minus where the lot is, lol)

Anyway, its still developer rights to do whatever they deem correct during sales.

P.s: better double confirm in black & white on how many carpark you got. I've encounter a developer did not honor the so call 'verbal' agreement as they say not mention in SPA/Promo/Offer forms.
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So are u suggesting that if i go and ask for a black and white written form stating that 2 carparks which is side by side to be allocated for my unit purchased? But i spoke to the sa yesterday and they say dont have such document/ form and insisted this is a standard thing wor, but with 2500++ units i dont think they can lie lar if not later can create chaos and go on newspaper due to the power of crowd/purchasers complaining , this is one of the advantages of buying high dense prop because alot buyers will be experiencing the same as other , tgats y i put on sign ! Btw lawyer are too arrogant and misleding cum misrept what to do free snp ma, lol

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QUOTE(kochin @ Aug 26 2015, 09:29 AM)
i dunno about you or others, but all my purchases clearly states car park and its location in the SnP.
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yes, normally it will stated in SNP with car park plan and highlight which is your parking lot if the parking lot is part of your parcel in your purchase.

but there are some developer didn't state in SNP which is your parking lot, that's mean it's not come as a parcel under your purchase. In that case, the parking lot is belongs to the management and they have the right to take care of the parking lot.

what I did for my apartment was wrote to developer and request for a black & white, written confirmation that I will get my parking lot FOC upon VP. Other freebies also should stated in separate letter or in any black & white form.
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post Aug 26 2015, 10:17 AM

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QUOTE(peace_lover @ Aug 26 2015, 10:13 AM)
yes, normally it will stated in SNP with car park plan and highlight which is your parking lot if the parking lot is part of your parcel in your purchase.

but there are some developer didn't state in SNP which is your parking lot, that's mean it's not come as a parcel under your purchase. In that case, the parking lot is belongs to the management and they have the right to take care of the parking lot.

what I did for my apartment was wrote to developer and request for a black & white, written confirmation that I will get my parking lot FOC upon VP. Other freebies also should stated in separate letter or in any black & white form.
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any example to show ? Or do u mind if i ask u to share for a template so that i can write to them ? If the carpark does not belong to us will the management has any right yo charge us a one time fee or monthly fee when park? As i know the developer scp is doing carpark business so this maybe a loopjole for them to cari makan next time for a very high sense apt?
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QUOTE(techno_guy @ Aug 26 2015, 10:17 AM)
any example to show ? Or do u mind if i ask u to share for a template so that i can write to them ? If the carpark does not belong to us will the management has any right yo charge us a one time fee or monthly fee when park? As i know the developer scp is doing carpark business so this maybe a loopjole for them to cari makan next time for a very high sense apt?
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i will dig my laptop at home tonight and pm you
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post Aug 26 2015, 11:05 AM

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QUOTE(peace_lover @ Aug 26 2015, 10:52 AM)
i will dig my laptop at home tonight and pm you
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Kays , thx
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QUOTE(techno_guy @ Aug 26 2015, 10:09 AM)
So are u suggesting that if i go and ask for a black and white written form stating that 2 carparks which is side by side to be allocated for my unit purchased? But i spoke to the sa yesterday and they say dont have such document/ form and insisted this is a standard thing wor, but with 2500++ units i dont think they can lie lar if not later can create chaos and go on newspaper due to the power of crowd/purchasers complaining , this is one of the advantages of buying high dense prop because alot buyers will be experiencing the same as other , tgats y i put on sign ! Btw lawyer are too arrogant and misleding cum misrept what to do free snp ma, lol
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Well, its up to your risk appetite. Just to highlight that, things that not in written confirmation are not really effective in legal point of view. Even with written, some developer use loopholes to short change the purchaser with other terms & condition.

People still can proceed with all the objection that you highlighted but in the end still up to developer because its not specify in the purchase.

Also there's case that some developer give additional car park but all bay are chargeable by maintenance charges.
Please go through your DMC if you have signed if there any clause mentioned they'll charge you on that.

You may surprise how 'creative' the developer nowadays on covering themselves/maximizing profit.

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