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 STOCK MARKET DISCUSSION V133, Bear coming?

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post Jun 26 2013, 10:30 AM, updated 13y ago

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New thread guys, attached with feng shui chart for reference tongue.gif

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post Jun 26 2013, 10:34 AM

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post Jun 26 2013, 10:35 AM

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LOL, the feng shui chart good reminder for a lot of people
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I object...

1. What is the meaning of Bear coming?

I thought it was the rabbit coming. tongue.gif

2. What is the meaning of that Fung Sway chart? Why no indicators on the chart? Where the support and resistance?

Where got chun? June suppose to go up up. tongue.gif
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post Jun 26 2013, 10:42 AM

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QUOTE(SKY 1809 @ Jun 26 2013, 10:41 AM)
Cash is KIng
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QUOTE(SKY 1809 @ Jun 26 2013, 10:41 AM)
Cash is KIng
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Too much cash also problem.... doh.gif
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post Jun 26 2013, 10:47 AM

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Gold Drop, Stocks should up.
I sense another rally bull soon.
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QUOTE(Boon3 @ Jun 26 2013, 10:42 AM)
I object...

1. What is the meaning of Bear coming?

I thought it was the rabbit coming. tongue.gif

2. What is the meaning of that Fung Sway chart? Why no indicators on the chart? Where the support and resistance?

Where got chun? June suppose to go up up. tongue.gif
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u very many question hor yawn.gif
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post Jun 26 2013, 10:49 AM

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QUOTE(Babablacksheep @ Jun 26 2013, 10:47 AM)
Gold Drop, Stocks should up.
I sense another rally bull soon.
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stocks down, gold should up.
maybe buy gold then. tongue.gif
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post Jun 26 2013, 10:51 AM

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Wah today market really not much movement..... really bored
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QUOTE(gark @ Jun 26 2013, 10:46 AM)
Too much cash also problem.... doh.gif
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sifu gark, may i know which counter in Singapore represent Charles & Keith? notworthy.gif
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QUOTE(yhtan @ Jun 26 2013, 10:49 AM)
u very many question hor yawn.gif
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I object... laugh.gif
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QUOTE(Boon3 @ Jun 26 2013, 10:52 AM)
I object...  laugh.gif
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problemssss uncle whistling.gif

can buy MAS ah??? wub.gif
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QUOTE(foofoosasa @ Jun 26 2013, 10:51 AM)
Wah today market really not much movement..... really bored
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Foreign counterparts drop like shit our CI only -5 points.
Of course when they up like rock solid our CI also should +5 points only lah. laugh.gif
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F&G index now at 20 (Extremely Fear). Still within strong buy region. biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(Icehart @ Jun 26 2013, 10:56 AM)
Foreign counterparts drop like shit our CI only -5 points.
Of course when they up like rock solid our CI also should +5 points only lah.  laugh.gif
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Not surprising la, our market is already proven detached from europe , china and US one.
Only the second liner stocks a bit volatile recently.
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hmm.gif my watchlist counters hardly rebound...........not doing good
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luster is really down down today....
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QUOTE(foofoosasa @ Jun 26 2013, 10:57 AM)
Not surprising la, our market is already proven detached from europe , china and US one.
Only the second liner stocks a bit volatile recently.
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But not yet from Nikkei sad.gif
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QUOTE(foofoosasa @ Jun 26 2013, 10:57 AM)
Not surprising la, our market is already proven detached from europe , china and US one.
Only the second liner stocks a bit volatile recently.
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Solid counters also not much movement for 2nd liners, except those with shaky foundation or those stepping on thin ice. laugh.gif
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QUOTE(kueyteowlou @ Jun 26 2013, 10:53 AM)
problemssss uncle  whistling.gif

can buy MAS ah???  wub.gif
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Billion shares counter I no knoe how to main. tongue.gif
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wow luster......dropping like flies....and still kena smackdown till kemek
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QUOTE(cclia @ Jun 26 2013, 11:58 AM)
luster is really down down today....
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Time to go in? Heard DRC play another counter liao biggrin.gif

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QUOTE(yok70 @ Jun 26 2013, 10:52 AM)
sifu gark, may i know which counter in Singapore represent Charles & Keith?  notworthy.gif
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Looks like i am wrong.. not listed sorry.. still a private company ah.. notworthy.gif

Old already memory not so good... sweat.gif

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QUOTE(ngaisteve1 @ Jun 26 2013, 11:03 AM)
Time to go in? Heard DRC play another counter liao  biggrin.gif
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BIOSIS?
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QUOTE(gark @ Jun 26 2013, 11:05 AM)
Looks like i am wrong.. not listed sorry.. still a private company ah.. notworthy.gif

Old already memory not so good...  sweat.gif
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no problem. thumbup.gif
thanks for your time. notworthy.gif
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QUOTE(jerrychoo2004 @ Jun 26 2013, 11:02 AM)
wow luster......dropping like flies....and still kena smackdown till kemek
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Really die lor this time cry.gif cry.gif cry.gif
Losses high till beh tahan...
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QUOTE(vccy118 @ Jun 26 2013, 11:09 AM)
Really die lor this time  cry.gif  cry.gif  cry.gif
Losses high till beh tahan...
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dare not go in the other day.. think RC not goreng this anymore..
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but i dont understand why still got so much volume la... not to say high price.. it's going down and got ppl to grab...? cheap discount? i dont' know and dont understand.. any sifu can advise?
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QUOTE(cclia @ Jun 26 2013, 12:11 PM)
but i dont understand why still got so much volume la... not to say high price.. it's going down and got ppl to grab...? cheap discount? i dont' know and dont understand.. any sifu can advise?
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Sell also need vol ma biggrin.gif
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If the divvy is percentage, they calculate from par value right? icon_question.gif
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QUOTE(cclia @ Jun 26 2013, 11:10 AM)
dare not go in the other day.. think RC not goreng this anymore..
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DRC no goreng oso nvm mah... problem is someone is pushing down the price aggressively
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btw, today finally see some green, but dont know how long it last...
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QUOTE(vccy118 @ Jun 26 2013, 11:14 AM)
DRC no goreng oso nvm mah... problem is someone is pushing down the price aggressively
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yalor... noticed that.... still does not making any sense to me... what sort of pattern is this? big shark? maybe their price is low, but why wanna sell so much lower compared to last week.... clueless..
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QUOTE(vccy118 @ Jun 26 2013, 11:09 AM)
Really die lor this time  cry.gif  cry.gif  cry.gif
Losses high till beh tahan...
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First time touch Raymond Chan counter?

Aizh.. Remind me of those days at Harvest, Nicorp, Mtronic and Aglobal.. That time you got play share market anot?
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QUOTE(vccy118 @ Jun 26 2013, 12:14 PM)
DRC no goreng oso nvm mah... problem is someone is pushing down the price aggressively
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so now DRC is on paper loss lo since his cost is 0.155?

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Raymond Chan nowadays is not like the days of Nicorp and Harvest already.
Very short-lived one
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post Jun 26 2013, 11:20 AM

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Check in. Cash in King. Many people say that.
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so can i say that the spy is actually Raymond chan?
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QUOTE(MarketingDude @ Jun 26 2013, 12:21 PM)
so can i say that the spy is actually Raymond chan?
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Raymond Chan where got lost one?

What is reported in Bursa on Raymond Chan shareholding is just a partial of the whole pile of share there are holding.

There are using Raymond Chan holding at RM 0.155 to let you guys have hope.. Actually that portion might be a 15 to 20% of their total holding. Another 80 to 85% already off loaded via nominees and other account.

So you guys always see Raymond Chan is losing (Someone big guns accompany you to lose comfort you a little bit...) but in fact, he ain't losing at all and already won long ago.
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hmm.gif now day really cash is king, rebound also no power..............
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QUOTE(Boon3 @ Jun 26 2013, 11:02 AM)
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Billion shares counter I no knoe how to main. tongue.gif
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so u know how to main luster instead of MAS la?? hmm.gif
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QUOTE(cclia @ Jun 26 2013, 11:11 AM)
but i dont understand why still got so much volume la... not to say high price.. it's going down and got ppl to grab...? cheap discount? i dont' know and dont understand.. any sifu can advise?
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Many things in the stock market not to be understand one.
We only play what we understand very well and not those we do not understand.

Like catching fishes in a pond. Which is better? Fishing in a pond that we know and understand or fish in a pond we no know nothing.

Share market many other shares hor.
Many can make good money not playing shares like Luster.

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QUOTE(kueyteowlou @ Jun 26 2013, 11:23 AM)
so u know how to main luster instead of MAS la??  hmm.gif
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laugh.gif Of course I no know.

See my reply to cclia.


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QUOTE(Boon3 @ Jun 26 2013, 10:52 AM)
I object...  laugh.gif
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Potential LLB laugh.gif

QUOTE(JaeMi @ Jun 26 2013, 11:13 AM)
If the divvy is percentage, they calculate from par value right?  icon_question.gif
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Market still in cautious mood. Look at last night DJ, then you will know. biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(Boon3 @ Jun 26 2013, 11:23 AM)
Many things in the stock market not to be understand one.
We only play what we understand very well and not those we do not understand.

Like catching fishes in a pond. Which is better? Fishing in a pond that we know and understand or fish in a pond we no know nothing.

Share market many other shares hor.
Many can make good money not playing shares like Luster.
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notworthy.gif notworthy.gif notworthy.gif notworthy.gif notworthy.gif

icon_rolleyes.gif gadang good ah boon gor?

fundamental wise not bad... could be another 100% counter.... rolleyes.gif
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sorry for OT.. gold price today so low..!
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QUOTE(Bonescythe @ Jun 26 2013, 11:18 AM)
First time touch Raymond Chan counter?

Aizh.. Remind me of those days at Harvest, Nicorp, Mtronic and Aglobal.. That time you got play share market anot?
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No o... just started at April

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QUOTE(Boon3 @ Jun 26 2013, 11:23 AM)
Many things in the stock market not to be understand one.
We only play what we understand very well and not those we do not understand.

Like catching fishes in a pond. Which is better? Fishing in a pond that we know and understand or fish in a pond we no know nothing.

Share market many other shares hor.
Many can make good money not playing shares like Luster.
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thanks for sharing.. i normally buy and hold shares.. then if got short term opportunity, will go in bit and run quick...smile.gif
so was about to be caught by the net for luster, but some how did not go in with no explanation..

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QUOTE(cclia @ Jun 26 2013, 11:32 AM)
sorry for OT.. gold price today so low..!
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will continue to go down yo..
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QUOTE(cclia @ Jun 26 2013, 11:36 AM)
thanks for sharing.. i normally buy and hold shares.. then if got short term opportunity, will go in bit and run quick...smile.gif
so was about to be caught by the net for luster, but some how did not go in with no explanation..
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i go in and out d, safe ..for this time icon_idea.gif
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QUOTE(Bonescythe @ Jun 26 2013, 11:22 AM)
Raymond Chan where got lost one?

What is reported in Bursa on Raymond Chan shareholding is just a partial of the whole pile of share there are holding.

There are using Raymond Chan holding at RM 0.155 to let you guys have hope.. Actually that portion might be a 15 to 20% of their total holding. Another 80 to 85% already off loaded via nominees and other account.

So you guys always see Raymond Chan is losing (Someone big guns accompany you to lose comfort you a little bit...) but in fact, he ain't losing at all and already won long ago.
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I guess those old timer back in last few year know lemon chan quite well, i still remember u mentioned your friend lost 6 figures because of Nicorp and Harvest
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QUOTE(vccy118 @ Jun 26 2013, 11:35 AM)
No o... just started at April

Bad experience  doh.gif  doh.gif
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Raymond Chan's saga started before 13th GE... Very shoik until my friend also kena filed bankruptcy.. blink.gif blink.gif
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QUOTE(cclia @ Jun 26 2013, 11:32 AM)
sorry for OT.. gold price today so low..!
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Even Goldman Sachs predict lower gold price...


http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2013-06-24/g...ccelerates.html
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QUOTE(yhtan @ Jun 26 2013, 11:37 AM)
I guess those old timer back in last few year know lemon chan quite well, i still remember u mentioned your friend lost 6 figures because of Nicorp and Harvest
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Yea I saw how they give Lemon Chan those Honda Civics, Accord, some give BMW 320i... Aiks.. I also got donate some angpao also
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QUOTE(Bonescythe @ Jun 26 2013, 11:38 AM)
Raymond Chan's saga started before 13th GE... Very shoik until my friend also kena filed bankruptcy..  blink.gif  blink.gif
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Holy shit... I actually bought luster as my 1st ever share, not coz of RC but coz my remisier recommend... That's I kept topping up
Now die lor...
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QUOTE(kueyteowlou @ Jun 26 2013, 11:30 AM)
notworthy.gif  notworthy.gif  notworthy.gif  notworthy.gif  notworthy.gif

icon_rolleyes.gif gadang good ah boon gor?

fundamental wise not bad... could be another 100% counter....  rolleyes.gif
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Recently after GE got oomph.
Now? I dunno how to see cos it looks out of shape leh.
I will just put in my new look see list. tongue.gif

Got anymore ah?

Macha, MAs shares total 16,710,781,200.
Many digits. More than my fingers jor!
Many share... you know what size wok the samseng will need to goreng ah?
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QUOTE(Bonescythe @ Jun 26 2013, 11:39 AM)
Yea I saw how they give Lemon Chan those Honda Civics, Accord, some give BMW 320i... Aiks.. I also got donate some angpao also
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Your friend who owed stock broker few hundred thousand, now repay each month by instalment? hmm.gif
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QUOTE(yhtan @ Jun 26 2013, 11:41 AM)
Your friend who owed stock broker few hundred thousand, now repay each month by instalment? hmm.gif
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He got blue chips worth 500k.. So use those to settle lo.. Sad rite?
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QUOTE(Bonescythe @ Jun 26 2013, 11:39 AM)
Yea I saw how they give Lemon Chan those Honda Civics, Accord, some give BMW 320i... Aiks.. I also got donate some angpao also
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Ya kinda agree.

Lemon CHan loyal fanci . hold and ride with him, usually turn out to be Ikan B Bakar.

Sad to say, many still treat him like God type.........

I do not understand why ..
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QUOTE(Bonescythe @ Jun 26 2013, 11:42 AM)
He got blue chips worth 500k.. So use those to settle lo.. Sad rite?
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A huge lost, those blue chips could worth at least RM700-800k by now sweat.gif
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QUOTE(vccy118 @ Jun 26 2013, 11:40 AM)
Holy shit... I actually bought luster as my 1st ever share, not coz of RC but coz my remisier recommend... That's I kept topping up
Now die lor...
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I got a big timer property investor who had informed me back then at March 13 to buy Luster. I dun give a shit because I also dunno what is happening. Now I see what he meant already..

Your remisier tell you to buy when already up.. Is cashing out time for them liau.
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QUOTE(yhtan @ Jun 26 2013, 11:43 AM)
A huge lost, those blue chips could worth at least RM700-800k by now sweat.gif
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He pledge those holding to get margin financing - to play RC counter.. cry.gif cry.gif
Lose until ah ma also cannot recognize...
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QUOTE(yhtan @ Jun 26 2013, 11:43 AM)
A huge lost, those blue chips could worth at least RM700-800k by now sweat.gif
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Even hold Tambun also not that bad hmm.gif
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QUOTE(SKY 1809 @ Jun 26 2013, 11:43 AM)
Ya kinda agree.

Lemon CHan loyal fanci . hold and ride with him, usually turn out to be Ikan B Bakar.

Sad to say, many still treat him like God type.........

I do not understand why ..
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Actually when Bursa Announcement got Lemon Chan.. The nominee (proxy) account already started to sell sell sell and make all kind of fakes transaction already.

So all the newbie will think RC just entered, and they enter together with RC.. and hit hit hit.. But actually hitting their proxy disposed stocks.
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QUOTE(Bonescythe @ Jun 26 2013, 11:44 AM)
I got a big timer property investor who had informed me back then at March 13 to buy Luster. I dun give a shit because I also dunno what is happening. Now I see what he meant already..

Your remisier tell you to buy when already up.. Is cashing out time for them liau.
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That time only 0.155 I in mah... greedy so top up lol

Now drop lower than my initial entry price... lesson learn
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QUOTE(vccy118 @ Jun 26 2013, 11:40 AM)
Holy shit... I actually bought luster as my 1st ever share, not coz of RC but coz my remisier recommend... That's I kept topping up
Now die lor...
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bro, sitting on how much paper lost?
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Maemode now back down. Now only 12.5 sen.
Shares will be suspended on Friday for dunno how long.

Some shares are not meant to be touch.

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QUOTE(MarketingDude @ Jun 26 2013, 11:47 AM)
bro, sitting on how much paper lost?
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Few K only lar, haha
Maggie mee for 3 months can get back
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QUOTE(vccy118 @ Jun 26 2013, 11:46 AM)
That time only 0.155 I in mah... greedy so top up lol

Now drop lower than my initial entry price... lesson learn
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RC counter. Main one time, ada profit can eat 1 dinner then fast fast go.. The more you chase, the more you get hooked up until losing also dunno how to cut lost.

I also dunno what kind of black magic they had used until those who touched their counter will not cut loss one until sibeh beh lin tahan only cut.. Once cut.. Oooiyoo.. Manyak blood oh.. Cut too deep liau. Margin finance lagi shit.. Credit limit buy one.. Die more cham...
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QUOTE(vccy118 @ Jun 26 2013, 11:46 AM)
That time only 0.155 I in mah... greedy so top up lol

Now drop lower than my initial entry price... lesson learn
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Lemon Chan odeli offload Luster at 23 to 25 sen .

Now at 15.5, I guess it is expensive for him to buy back.

Unless a major goreng is coming, quite unlikely ...........
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QUOTE(Boon3 @ Jun 26 2013, 11:47 AM)
Maemode now back down. Now only 12.5 sen.
Shares will be suspended on Friday for dunno how long.

Some shares are not meant to be touch.
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Wah.. so fast suspended? I tot will give them some time frame to restructure.. This one straight away suspended.. Hmm.. Must be dam bad..
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QUOTE(Bonescythe @ Jun 26 2013, 11:49 AM)
RC counter. Main one time, ada profit can eat 1 dinner then fast fast go.. The more you chase, the more you get hooked up until losing also dunno how to cut lost.

I also dunno what kind of black magic they had used until those who touched their counter will not cut loss one until sibeh beh lin tahan only cut.. Once cut.. Oooiyoo.. Manyak blood oh.. Cut too deep liau. Margin finance lagi shit.. Credit limit buy one.. Die more cham...
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Luckily I use extra cash buy... Meaning cash reduced but overall lifestyle not affected

If need to cut a limb... too risky, dun dare
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QUOTE(vccy118 @ Jun 26 2013, 11:50 AM)
Luckily I use extra cash buy... Meaning cash reduced but overall lifestyle not affected

If need to cut a limb... too risky, dun dare
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No point to be a water fish lor
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QUOTE(vccy118 @ Jun 26 2013, 11:49 AM)
Few K only lar, haha
Maggie mee for 3 months can get back
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Wah... like this hor ... there is only one advice for you la.... stay away from the stock market.
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QUOTE(Bonescythe @ Jun 26 2013, 11:45 AM)
He pledge those holding to get margin financing - to play RC counter..  cry.gif  cry.gif
Lose until ah ma also cannot recognize...
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Must be one time of profit from Lemon Chan counter made him even more greedy, that's why he hooked up by averaging up/down sweat.gif

QUOTE(SKY 1809 @ Jun 26 2013, 11:46 AM)
Even hold Tambun also not that bad  hmm.gif
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yup laugh.gif

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QUOTE(vccy118 @ Jun 26 2013, 11:49 AM)
Few K only lar, haha
Maggie mee for 3 months can get back
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lesson learned, new should start with stable counter and study the market
your first buy is Luster, luckily you loss money, otherwise you think stock market is a gold mountain then you will be in deep shit next time
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QUOTE(vccy118 @ Jun 26 2013, 11:50 AM)
Luckily I use extra cash buy... Meaning cash reduced but overall lifestyle not affected

If need to cut a limb... too risky, dun dare
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If u want to play RC stocks, make sure u know what he intends to do , if not he would play your backside .
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QUOTE(Boon3 @ Jun 26 2013, 11:53 AM)
Wah... like this hor ... there is only one advice for you la.... stay away from the stock market.
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Yeah, have to stop with this adi cry.gif cry.gif
Luckily not badly burnt
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QUOTE(cclia @ Jun 26 2013, 11:32 AM)
sorry for OT.. gold price today so low..!
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maybank rm130 cimb 132.. apalah mahal kat cimb
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QUOTE(MarketingDude @ Jun 26 2013, 11:56 AM)
lesson learned, new should start with stable counter and study the market
your first buy is Luster, luckily you loss money, otherwise you think stock market is a gold mountain then you will be in deep shit next time
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True also... Made me more wary and cautious now...
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QUOTE(vccy118 @ Jun 26 2013, 11:57 AM)
Yeah, have to stop with this adi  cry.gif  cry.gif
Luckily not badly burnt
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Should follow Cherroy buy reits to learn how to be patient first.
Or buy some good potential counter for some holdings and see it go up slowly one.

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No guys, no glory ??
come on guys...let's get lust on luster again...ha
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This MNC.. dunno do wad...

Looks like another Cybert to me only.. When it plunge.. Many blood again will be seen
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QUOTE(madkancil @ Jun 26 2013, 12:00 PM)
No guys, no glory ??
come on guys...let's get lust on luster again...ha
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you still stuck there right? brows.gif icon_idea.gif
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QUOTE(Bonescythe @ Jun 26 2013, 11:59 AM)
Should follow Cherroy buy reits to learn how to be patient first.
Or buy some good potential counter for some holdings and see it go up slowly one.
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Reits start to give 7% yield too bad, but more to come. laugh.gif
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QUOTE(MarketingDude @ Jun 26 2013, 12:01 PM)
you still stuck there right?  brows.gif  icon_idea.gif
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Haha...lose until I dont know what's my sirname...lol
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Buy SCC now also not bad. Coming to 10% dividend based on 10 cent dividend and price now 1.05
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QUOTE(madkancil @ Jun 26 2013, 12:02 PM)
Haha...lose until I dont know what's my sirname...lol
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how much paper lost? i dun think this counter will goreng again in near future icon_idea.gif
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QUOTE(MarketingDude @ Jun 26 2013, 12:03 PM)
how much paper lost? i  dun think this counter will goreng again in near future  icon_idea.gif
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Looking at Harvest and Nicorp.

I remember that time people are shouting Harvest to RM4.xx...

Nicorp RM 1.50 to RM2.xx...

Now??????
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SCC.

Tax exempted 10 cents dividend.
RM 1.05 now

Return is 9.5%.. Very good buy buy very less traded. Must be kept in fridge for long long time until dividend announced then only got some excitement one
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QUOTE(vccy118 @ Jun 26 2013, 11:57 AM)
Yeah, have to stop with this adi  cry.gif  cry.gif
Luckily not badly burnt
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Sorry if my message was harsh earlier.

Honestly speaking, stock market is very dangerous place IF...

1. One thinks losing money is ok...
2. One loves to average down...


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QUOTE(madkancil @ Jun 26 2013, 12:02 PM)
Haha...lose until I dont know what's my sirname...lol
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Lose until u also dunno how to type properly already.. Haha...
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QUOTE(Bonescythe @ Jun 26 2013, 12:06 PM)
SCC.

Tax exempted 10 cents dividend.
RM 1.05 now

Return is 9.5%.. Very good buy buy very less traded. Must be kept in fridge for long long time until dividend announced then only got some excitement one
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Thanks for highlighting this .

Want to get some for some passive incomes..

Thanks
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QUOTE(Bonescythe @ Jun 26 2013, 01:08 PM)
Lose until u also dunno how to type properly already.. Haha...
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Bone, u holding which stock currently? any property stock?
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QUOTE(Bonescythe @ Jun 26 2013, 12:05 PM)
Looking at Harvest and Nicorp.

I remember that time people are shouting Harvest to RM4.xx...

Nicorp RM 1.50 to RM2.xx...

Now??????
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we all know who are the people shouting right? icon_idea.gif
Real good counter no ppl shout la, it will go up slowly silently
like Hupseng, i 2 .90 that time ald start watching, now near to RM4 d..
PRESBHD too

last time looking good at NTPM too
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QUOTE(ngaisteve1 @ Jun 26 2013, 12:10 PM)
Bone, u holding which stock currently? any property stock?
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Now ah.. Property stock.. Hmm.
Frankly speaking, I am looking at Gadang Berhad. Last time I missed IBhd.. 80 cents to RM 3.00.

Once Gadang acquire the AP and all done, sign SPA.

Average 500k
assume 340 units for phase 1.

That is going to be 170m sales revenue to be recorded into their accounting papers.

Then looking at their sales in Johor, and hopefully other projects are running good (not in a loss). I think Gadang holds a good position.

Probably RM 1.20 to RM 1.50 should be no problem in 6 months time
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QUOTE(SKY 1809 @ Jun 26 2013, 12:09 PM)
Thanks for highlighting this .

Want to get some for some passive incomes..

Thanks
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Yea. Better than FDs this one.. biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(Bonescythe @ Jun 26 2013, 12:18 PM)
Now ah.. Property stock.. Hmm.
Frankly speaking, I am looking at Gadang Berhad. Last time I missed IBhd.. 80 cents to RM 3.00.

Once Gadang acquire the AP and all done, sign SPA.

Average 500k
assume 340 units for phase 1.

That is going to be 170m sales revenue to be recorded into their accounting papers.

Then looking at their sales in Johor, and hopefully other projects are running good (not in a loss). I think Gadang holds a good position.

Probably RM 1.20 to RM 1.50 should be no problem in 6 months time
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Good to see u recommending some more " fundamental " stocks .

Keep it up thumbup.gif
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QUOTE(Bonescythe @ Jun 26 2013, 01:18 PM)
Now ah.. Property stock.. Hmm.
Frankly speaking, I am looking at Gadang Berhad. Last time I missed IBhd.. 80 cents to RM 3.00.

Once Gadang acquire the AP and all done, sign SPA.

Average 500k
assume 340 units for phase 1.

That is going to be 170m sales revenue to be recorded into their accounting papers.

Then looking at their sales in Johor, and hopefully other projects are running good (not in a loss). I think Gadang holds a good position.

Probably RM 1.20 to RM 1.50 should be no problem in 6 months time
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Wa, 100% in 6 months no bad ma biggrin.gif

Benalec, amprop and Huayang any tot?
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Asia water taps would run dry :-

The biggest risk for beaten-down Asian markets is not China's financial instability, say experts, it's a further spike in U.S. Treasury yields.

"If U.S. [10-year] Treasury yields go up from here to 3 percent - that's going to be a disaster for the asset markets in Asia," Kelvin Tay, regional chief investment officer, southern Asia-Pacific, at UBS told CNBC.

"It's going to shift a lot of capital away and it will basically hasten the liquidity movements out of this region," he added.




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QUOTE(SKY 1809 @ Jun 26 2013, 01:22 PM)
Good to see u recommending some more " fundamental " stocks .

Keep it up thumbup.gif
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ya i think Bone is now more fundamental than technical kut biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(Boon3 @ Jun 26 2013, 11:41 AM)
rolleyes.gif

Recently after GE got oomph.
Now? I dunno how to see cos it looks out of shape leh.
I will just put in my new look see list. tongue.gif

Got anymore ah?

Macha, MAs shares total 16,710,781,200.
Many digits. More than my fingers jor!
Many share... you know what size wok the samseng will need to goreng ah?
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wa that number.... so long....

dont know leh.... Gadang i think still can go gua..... need to hold lo....

suitable u uncle style.... icon_rolleyes.gif icon_rolleyes.gif
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QUOTE(kueyteowlou @ Jun 26 2013, 12:26 PM)
wa that number.... so long....

dont know leh.... Gadang i think still can go gua..... need to hold lo....

suitable u uncle style....  icon_rolleyes.gif  icon_rolleyes.gif
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Beat less ah? tongue.gif

The other alternative to Gadang is probably Salcon.
It's going in quite big into property with a strong backing.

Only problem is... I don't quite like the name. laugh.gif
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QUOTE(SKY 1809 @ Jun 26 2013, 12:22 PM)
Good to see u recommending some more " fundamental " stocks .

Keep it up thumbup.gif
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I am handling the project and know the sales mah.. Hahaha
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QUOTE(ngaisteve1 @ Jun 26 2013, 12:25 PM)
ya i think Bone is now more fundamental than technical kut  biggrin.gif
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They got quite some good and strategic lands... and I see it sold off like fire sales.. Ok lo.. Can give a try.
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QUOTE(madkancil @ Jun 26 2013, 12:02 PM)
Haha...lose until I dont know what's my sirname...lol
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Brother, we are in the same boat cry.gif

QUOTE(Boon3 @ Jun 26 2013, 12:06 PM)
Sorry if my message was harsh earlier.

Honestly speaking, stock market is very dangerous place IF...

1. One thinks losing money is ok...
2. One loves to average down...
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Haha, nope, not harsh at all tongue.gif

But this time I kena burn coz I average UP instead of down doh.gif

One word: Greed

If I didn't average up I would have just break even, no win no lose
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QUOTE(vccy118 @ Jun 26 2013, 11:40 AM)
Holy shit... I actually bought luster as my 1st ever share, not coz of RC but coz my remisier recommend... That's I kept topping up
Now die lor...
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Wah..which reminiser u use? can advise ppl to go holland..
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Momentum indicators are starting to turn from weak bullish to weak bearish.
Market top has been established at 1788. The possibility of downside is higher than upside.
Chances of falling towards 200-day MVA at 1670 is high.
http://www.theedgemalaysia.com/business-ne...g-stronger.html

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QUOTE(yok70 @ Jun 26 2013, 01:13 PM)
Momentum indicators are starting to turn from weak bullish to weak bearish.
Market top has been established at 1788. The possibility of downside is higher than upside.
Chances of falling towards 200-day MVA at 1670 is high.
http://www.theedgemalaysia.com/business-ne...g-stronger.html

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Seems like no one has read apollo's latest financials, or they think that it's not good enuf hmm.gif
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QUOTE(Boon3 @ Jun 26 2013, 12:30 PM)
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Beat less ah? tongue.gif

The other alternative to Gadang is probably Salcon.
It's going in quite big into property with a strong backing.

Only problem is... I don't quite like the name. laugh.gif
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salcon.... not bad.... but i dont like lo....

gadang will be another tambun.... wub.gif wub.gif
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QUOTE(V-Zero @ Jun 26 2013, 01:23 PM)
Still considering whether to hold on to the rest of my 47% or go 100% cash.  hmm.gif
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For me, always look at fundamental and valuation when having doubts and concerns. icon_rolleyes.gif
Time the market is very very very very difficult. This I listen from many many many many sifus advice. notworthy.gif

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QUOTE(Pink Spider @ Jun 26 2013, 01:24 PM)
Seems like no one has read apollo's latest financials, or they think that it's not good enuf hmm.gif
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sometimes, this means priced in already. laugh.gif
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wah! my stelux on steroid today! so lucky yesterday i topped up my holdings with sweat catching that falling sharp knife. sweat.gif rclxms.gif
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QUOTE(yok70 @ Jun 26 2013, 01:39 PM)
For me, always look at fundamental and valuation when having doubts and concerns.  icon_rolleyes.gif
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I only consider stocks with solid fundamentals.
Valuation wise most still got decent upward space.

The thing is, I wanna avoid going into the market when the short-mid term outlook is dim.
Me no rike when mah share stuck at -5% loss after entry. tongue.gif

Even REITs are no longer a safe hedge against equity volatility. rclxub.gif
2 months until the big drop, according to fengshui chart. laugh.gif
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QUOTE(yok70 @ Jun 26 2013, 01:40 PM)
sometimes, this means priced in already.  laugh.gif
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Nvm lar, since it just increase my holdings, average cost still around there.

Heart must be steady~ sleep.gif
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QUOTE(V-Zero @ Jun 26 2013, 01:48 PM)
2 months until the big drop, according to fengshui chart.  laugh.gif
So when the big drop happens in two months time, that fong sway chart is accurate? laugh.gif

for June the fong sway chart says go UP. laugh.gif

Conclusion?

Depend more on fong sway chart. Soon it will be accurate one. laugh.gif

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QUOTE(Boon3 @ Jun 26 2013, 01:54 PM)
So when the big drop happens in two months time, that fong sway chart is accurate? laugh.gif

for June the fong sway chart says go UP. laugh.gif

Conclusion?

Depend more on fong sway chart. Soon it will be accurate one.  laugh.gif
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Considering the market sentiment now, no harm to follow the chart. laugh.gif
Small constant profit better than wild swings for me, heart cannot tahan. blush.gif
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QUOTE(V-Zero @ Jun 26 2013, 01:48 PM)
I only consider stocks with solid fundamentals.
Valuation wise most still got decent upward space.

The thing is, I wanna avoid going into the market when the short-mid term outlook is dim.
Me no rike when mah share stuck at -5% loss after entry.  tongue.gif

Even REITs are no longer a safe hedge against equity volatility.  rclxub.gif
2 months until the big drop, according to fengshui chart.  laugh.gif
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I tried to time the market (again) pre-GE and sold many of my strong fundamental stocks. Guess what, I missed 30-50% stock price upside by this mistake.

REIT now suffer weak sentiment because of fear of rate hike. If interest rate or bond yield up 1%, possibly means REIT's yield need to up 1% in order to attract buyers. This even before consideration of the cost of debt a REIT need to pay will increase too. Consider current yield of 5%, a 1% up to 6%, which means REIT's share price must down 20%. nod.gif

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Considering the market sentiment now, no harm to follow the chart.  laugh.gif
Small constant profit better than wild swings for me, heart cannot tahan.  blush.gif
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Strange.

This is like saying it doesn't matter when the Fong Sway chart is wrong.
It only matters when it is correct.

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I tried to time the market (again) pre-GE and sold many of my strong fundamental stocks. Guess what, I missed 30-50% stock price upside by this mistake.

REIT now suffer weak sentiment because of fear of rate hike. If interest rate or bond yield up 1%, possibly means REIT's yield need to up 1% in order to attract buyers. This even before consideration of the cost of debt a REIT need to pay will increase too. Consider current yield of 5%, a 1% up to 6%, which means REIT's share price must down 20%.  nod.gif
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OPR is not going to be raised with current economy condition.

It is suicide for central bank to raise rate at this moment or near term, when equities market is volatile, economy is getting slower and no pressure of inflation, (commodities price soft and gold price plunging).

Having said that, I would agree Reit price should go down a bit more, as at the moment, yield is too low (due to too much cash chasing too little thing).

I do not understand why many keep on saying interest rate is going to be hike... too many media cooking?

Bond price drop sending yield higher, yes.
Interest rate, over night rate that set by central bank being raised? Chance is remote.

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For me, always look at fundamental and valuation when having doubts and concerns.   icon_rolleyes.gif
Time the market is very very very very difficult. This I listen from many many many many sifus advice.  notworthy.gif
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Ya kinda true also.

But many fundamentalists still able to catch fishes at super low prices...

Perhaps they forget to tell u they do keep lot of cash and waiting for more opportunities.

Their reasons for u not to time the markets ........... hmm.gif

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wah! my stelux on steroid today! so lucky yesterday i topped up my holdings with sweat catching that falling sharp knife.  sweat.gif  rclxms.gif
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good for your dudes , I also top up a lot of my banking stocks  brows.gif
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Seems like no one has read apollo's latest financials, or they think that it's not good enuf hmm.gif
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Strange.

This is like saying it doesn't matter when the Fong Sway chart is wrong.
It only matters when it is correct.

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Consider KLCI all time closing high of 1780 (forget exact) to now of roughly 1725, we only corrected for a mere 3%, perhaps included in the fengshui chart but negligible drop? tongue.gif

So we will still sail up to 1800 by end of July.
So ride the wave now and sell on 31st July? unsure.gif
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U buy, never sell hmm.gif

WB style  yawn.gif
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reduce portfolio and switch to another one.
My Sell button still can be used laugh.gif , unlike our mod notworthy.gif

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F&G index now at 20 (Extremely Fear). Still within strong buy region. biggrin.gif
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OPR is not going to be raised with current economy condition.

It is suicide for central bank to raise rate at this moment or near term, when equities market is volatile, economy is getting slower and no pressure of inflation, (commodities price soft and gold price plunging).

Having said that, I would agree Reit price should go down a bit more, as at the moment, yield is too low (due to too much cash chasing too little thing).

I do not understand why many keep on saying interest rate is going to be hike... too many media cooking?

Bond price drop sending yield higher, yes.
Interest rate, over night rate that set by central bank being raised? Chance is remote.
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I think it depends on how well EPF could absorb the Govt Bonds selling by FF .

If US treasury jumps to 3% ( now about 2.6% ) , our Govt Bonds currently could be less than 3% on average ......

Our ringgit could drop like a stone too.

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2 months until the big drop, according to fengshui chart.  laugh.gif
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Actual:
June - drop
July - drop
Aug - drop

In August Lilian Too will tell us her prophecy is correct whistling.gif
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QUOTE(SKY 1809 @ Jun 26 2013, 02:09 PM)
Ya kinda true also.

But many fundamentalists still able to catch fishes at super low prices...

Perhaps they forget to tell u they do keep lot of cash and waiting for more opportunities.

Their reasons for u not to time the markets ........... hmm.gif
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the key point is to catch fishes based on valuation pov more than market sentiment.
when price down and fundamental stays, valuation is getting cheaper and cheaper, that's why fundamentalists start buying in more. hmm.gif

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Actually when Bursa Announcement got Lemon Chan.. The nominee (proxy) account already started to sell sell sell and make all kind of fakes transaction already.

So all the newbie will think RC just entered, and they enter together with RC.. and hit hit hit.. But actually hitting their proxy disposed stocks.
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QUOTE(yok70 @ Jun 26 2013, 02:22 PM)
the key point is to catch fishes based on valuation pov more than market sentiment.
when price down and fundamental stays, valuation is getting cheaper and cheaper, that's why fundamentalists start buying in more.  hmm.gif
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How if fundamentalist get wrong anf the stock change in fundamental, but it just he couldn't see it laugh.gif
Valuation also change that time biggrin.gif
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How if fundamentalist get wrong anf the stock change in fundamental, but it just he couldn't see it  laugh.gif
Valuation also change that time  biggrin.gif
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today seems like got people push down "wafer price" hmmm
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today seems like got people push down "wafer price" hmmm
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QUOTE(yok70 @ Jun 26 2013, 02:22 PM)
the key point is to catch fishes based on valuation pov more than market sentiment.
when price down and fundamental stays, valuation is getting cheaper and cheaper, that's why fundamentalists start buying in more.  hmm.gif
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But when they forsee a banking crisis or asset bubble to burst , then they still need to time the market.

WB also time the market to go into US property sectors .........He did not just jump in the moment property crashes at rock bottom values.

In fact, he buys because he expects US property trend to be reversed soon. ...........

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QUOTE(SKY 1809 @ Jun 26 2013, 02:30 PM)
But when they forsee a banking crisis or asset bubble to burst , then they still need to time the market.

WB also time the market to go into US property sectors .........He did not just  jump in the moment property crashes at  rock bottom values.

In fact, he buys because he expects US property  trend to be reversed soon. ...........
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when they foresee a banking crisis or asset bubble to burst, that's under fundamental changes.
if you called that time the market, well at that level, they are the same thing with 2 faces then.
like my mistake made pre-GE, that's a time the market without much fundamental concern.


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nonono  tongue.gif
Consider KLCI all time closing high of 1780 (forget exact) to now of roughly 1725, we only corrected for a mere 3%, perhaps included in the fengshui chart but negligible drop?  tongue.gif

So we will still sail up to 1800 by end of July.
So ride the wave now and sell on 31st July?  unsure.gif
Dude... check this out. tongue.gif

KLCI closing at month end.
Feb: 1,637.63
March: 1,671.63
Apr: 1,717.65
May: 1,769.22

Check...

Feb closed at 1,637.63. March closed at 1,671.63. KLCI is up 34 pts.
Fong Sway chart says big rise in March. Correct.

user posted image

How did Fong Sway chart draw the 34 points?

Big up.

KLCI closed May at 1,769.22. We are now at 1734.67. We are down 34.5 pts on the index for the month.

Question: I understand that 3% can and should be considered a mere correction BUT how are you going to compare this 34 points down with the 34 points up on Feb 2013?


Anyway like I say "This is like saying it doesn't matter when the Fong Sway chart is wrong. It only matters when it is correct."
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QUOTE(Boon3 @ Jun 26 2013, 02:37 PM)
Dude... check this out. tongue.gif

KLCI closing at month end.
Feb: 1,637.63
March: 1,671.63
Apr: 1,717.65
May: 1,769.22

Check...

Feb closed at 1,637.63. March closed at 1,671.63. KLCI is up 34 pts.
Fong Sway chart says big rise in March. Correct.

user posted image

How did Fong Sway chart draw the 34 points?

Big up.

KLCI closed May at 1,769.22. We are now at 1734.67. We are down 34.5 pts on the index for the month.

Question: I understand that 3% can and should be considered a mere correction BUT how are you going to compare this 34 points down with the 34 points up on Feb 2013?
Anyway like I say "This is like saying it doesn't matter when the Fong Sway chart is wrong. It only matters when it is correct."
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QUOTE(Madbull @ Jun 26 2013, 02:41 PM)
If the feng shui chart is correct, then we dun need analysis and many will be rich ady lo..i trust everyone know if for reference only... cool2.gif
Nope. I won't even use this Pong Sway chart for reference. tongue.gif
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QUOTE(Boon3 @ Jun 26 2013, 02:37 PM)
Dude... check this out. tongue.gif

KLCI closing at month end.
Feb: 1,637.63
March: 1,671.63
Apr: 1,717.65
May: 1,769.22

Check...

Feb closed at 1,637.63. March closed at 1,671.63. KLCI is up 34 pts.
Fong Sway chart says big rise in March. Correct.

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How did Fong Sway chart draw the 34 points?

Big up.

KLCI closed May at 1,769.22. We are now at 1734.67. We are down 34.5 pts on the index for the month.

Question: I understand that 3% can and should be considered a mere correction BUT how are you going to compare this 34 points down with the 34 points up on Feb 2013?
Anyway like I say "This is like saying it doesn't matter when the Fong Sway chart is wrong. It only matters when it is correct."
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Sifu got a point there. notworthy.gif
But still got 2 market days until end of June right? brows.gif

Later Friday close at 1,769.22+ whistling.gif
Then the fengshui chart must be dayum chun liao thumbup.gif
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Actually I do think the market already priced in the good result of appolo.. maybe just not good enough for them smile.gif  Don't worry I also will support this stock now
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the drop mainly due to the large spread between buy and sell bids
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Sifu got a point there.  notworthy.gif
But still got 2 market days until end of June right? brows.gif

Later Friday close at 1,769.22+  whistling.gif
Then the fengshui chart must be dayum chun liao  thumbup.gif
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Still cannot. laugh.gif

Look at month of April.
End March 1,671.63. April closed at 1,717.65.

Aiyoyo. KLCI up 46 pts for April.
Which is more than March.

How did Pong Sway chart draw April? tongue.gif

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QUOTE(jerrychoo2004 @ Jun 26 2013, 02:26 PM)
today seems like got people push down "wafer price" hmmm
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QUOTE(SKY 1809 @ Jun 26 2013, 02:20 PM)
I think it depends on how well EPF could absorb the Govt Bonds selling by FF .

If US treasury jumps to 3% ( now about 2.6% )  , our Govt  Bonds currently could be less than 3% on average ......

Our ringgit could drop like a stone too.
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Malaysia 10 years is about always at around 3.5~4%.

Actually it is not RM drop, but USD has tremendous strength.
RM vs AUD, is actually appreciating.

Those said USD is worthless, and short USD, bear USD, now being hit left and right, due to massive QE previously.
As many USD bear, either short USD, holding others currency or go into gold market.

The extreme USD bear, short USD, long gold, is the worst scenario for time being.
Left being whacked, right being slapped.

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some stocks the support level is just so obvious. i guess it's local funds instead of retailers.
and they just support, not moving up further. so it stays at "cautiously neutral" stage i guess. hmm.gif
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QUOTE(Boon3 @ Jun 26 2013, 02:59 PM)
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Still cannot.  laugh.gif

Look at month of April.
End March 1,671.63. April closed at 1,717.65.

Aiyoyo. KLCI up 46 pts for April.
Which is more than March.

How did Pong Sway chart draw April? tongue.gif

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Kena condemn cry.gif
Kasi chance sikit lah bang tongue.gif

Let's put it another way, any forecast/prediction will never be 100% dead on accurate, so allows some significant variance. icon_idea.gif Take the average slope of the rise from March till August and draw a normalized line. icon_idea.gif

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Disclaimer: Am just fooling around, not trying to prove that the chart is accurate. shakehead.gif

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QUOTE(V-Zero @ Jun 26 2013, 03:10 PM)
Kena condemn  cry.gif
Kasi chance sikit lah bang  tongue.gif

Let's put it another way, any forecast/prediction will never be 100% dead on accurate, so allows some significant variance.  icon_idea.gif Take the average slope of the rise from March till August and draw a normalized line.  icon_idea.gif

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Disclaimer: Am just fooling around, not trying to prove that the chart is accurate.  shakehead.gif
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I still object.......................... *larik*


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Bjcorp lines have not yet crossed. Still no good buy signal.
Be careful or you can get stuck in sideways or down move.
Better upside potentials in some oil and gas counters which have
started rebounds from temporary low levels. Not chasing prices now.
Monitoring for good buy signals to collect more.
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QUOTE(cherroy @ Jun 26 2013, 03:01 PM)
Malaysia 10 years is about always at around 3.5~4%.

Actually it is not RM drop, but USD has tremendous strength.
RM vs AUD, is actually appreciating.

Those said USD is worthless, and short USD, bear USD, now being hit left and right, due to massive QE previously.
As many USD bear, either short USD, holding others currency or go into gold market.

The extreme USD bear, short USD, long gold, is the worst scenario for time being.
Left being whacked, right being slapped.
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Since the previous QE 1 and 2 did make gold up and raise inflation, many thought QE 3 will do the same. Surprisingly, it didn't. Until now, I still can't figure out why. Probably because when QE 3 happens, central banks across the world are much stronger with enough US$ to neutralize the effect? hmm.gif
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QUOTE(Boon3 @ Jun 26 2013, 03:11 PM)
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I still object.......................... *larik*
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HKSE rebounds 400 pts (2%) while SSE continues dropping another 0.5%.
So China now has "departed" ? I thought China companies start asking money from HK banks? tongue.gif

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QUOTE(Madbull @ Jun 26 2013, 03:14 PM)
Boon gor watch too much lawyer show in astro on demand ady nowadays... laugh.gif
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I also object...... HAHA!

Astro prices simply too ridiculous.

No ah?

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QUOTE(Boon3 @ Jun 26 2013, 03:16 PM)
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I also object...... HAHA!

Astro prices simply too ridiculous.

No ah?

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So many discussion going on hmm.gif

Ah boon, do u have a crystal ball to predict future market?
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Wah..IOIcorp strong le..no impact at all on the negative news..
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QUOTE(cherroy @ Jun 26 2013, 03:01 PM)
Malaysia 10 years is about always at around 3.5~4%.

Actually it is not RM drop, but USD has tremendous strength.
RM vs AUD, is actually appreciating.

Those said USD is worthless, and short USD, bear USD, now being hit left and right, due to massive QE previously.
As many USD bear, either short USD, holding others currency or go into gold market.

The extreme USD bear, short USD, long gold, is the worst scenario for time being.
Left being whacked, right being slapped.
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U can have good " stable " rates in Malaysia , no doubt about it , but sooner or later the liquidity crunch would take its priority . laugh.gif

Businesses here have or less facing this impact now.

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QUOTE(Boon3 @ Jun 26 2013, 03:11 PM)
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I still object.......................... *larik*
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maybe can open table take bets on whether the chart correct or not. tongue.gif
Anyway I think China is capable of handling US QE tapering so the odds are against me. cry.gif
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Ah boon, do u have a crystal ball to predict future market?
I object..... to this question.

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Waa... market now hot a bit.... got tipsy ah? tongue.gif
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QUOTE(yok70 @ Jun 26 2013, 03:13 PM)
Since the previous QE 1 and 2 did make gold up and raise inflation, many thought QE 3 will do the same. Surprisingly, it didn't. Until now, I still can't figure out why. Probably because when QE 3 happens, central banks across the world are much stronger with enough US$ to neutralize the effect?  hmm.gif
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I think the gold prices hike in the last few years was not caused by QE1 and QE2. Rather, investors sought 'safe haven' when economy was in bad shape. Now US economy is much better, so investors are eying riskier investments.

Other factors:
- profit taking after years of bull run
- fear of Cyprus Central Bank selling gold
- herd mentality

My 2 sen smile.gif

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QUOTE(Boon3 @ Jun 26 2013, 03:22 PM)
I object..... to this question.

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Waa... market now hot a bit.... got tipsy ah? tongue.gif
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Properties stock drop down a lot, u got balls to enter? laugh.gif
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QUOTE(Boon3 @ Jun 26 2013, 03:22 PM)
I object..... to this question.

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Waa... market now hot a bit.... got tipsy ah? tongue.gif
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QUOTE(V-Zero @ Jun 26 2013, 03:22 PM)
maybe can open table take bets on whether the chart correct or not.  tongue.gif
Anyway I think China is capable of handling US QE tapering so the odds are against me.  cry.gif
Still object. LOL!

Chart was already wrong for April 2013. tongue.gif


ps: Wanna check or debate on month for month comparisons for CLSE Pong Sway Charts the past 2 years? whistling.gif

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QUOTE(yhtan @ Jun 26 2013, 03:26 PM)
Properties stock drop down a lot, u got balls to enter? laugh.gif
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Despite the construction and property booms, very little money flows to the contractors ....... hmm.gif

I hope it would not turn out something to be bad.........

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QUOTE(SKY 1809 @ Jun 26 2013, 03:19 PM)
U can  have good " stable "  rates in Malaysia , no doubt about it , but sooner or later the liquidity crunch would  take its priority .  laugh.gif

Businesses here have or less facing this impact now.
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Actually, businesses already slow since May...

I don't think there will be a liquidity crunch, just many investors, hedge fund, speculators too addicted to the QE already, suddenly, said QE tapering, then it is like end of the world.

US economy is rather intact, from various economy data showing. Yes, not growing robust and rapidly, but at slow and steady pace. Not in recession, not depression.

China liquidity crunch is easier to solve as compared to US subprime mess.
PBOC can provide liquidity if situation turn worse, after all, China capital market and banking is not as open and free as US. So PBOC should able to solve it much easier than US subprime version.
After all, a minor liquidity crunch may be good for long term future, by killing off persistent high inflation in China, as well as taming the loan growth that spur the inflation.

If there is severe liquidity crunch like 2008 crisis, then it may provide a second life chance to buy dirt cheap stock again.
Seldom lottery hit twice one... tongue.gif
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QUOTE(yhtan @ Jun 26 2013, 03:26 PM)
Properties stock drop down a lot, u got balls to enter? laugh.gif
I have a many tennis balls lying around somewhere... tongue.gif
I also got a couple of golf balls lying around somewhere ....
I don't know where I kept my bowling ball...
The football is at the corner... that I know.
I can't find the basketball.... grrr....

I am looking see at Salcon. tongue.gif
Question is, do you have the balls to buy a stock whose name has a con within? laugh.gif

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QUOTE(cherroy @ Jun 26 2013, 03:32 PM)
Actually, businesses already slow since May...

I don't think there will be a liquidity crunch, just many investors, hedge fund, speculators too addicted to the QE already, suddenly, said QE tapering, then it is like end of the world.

US economy is rather intact, from various economy data showing. Yes, not growing robust and rapidly, but at slow and steady pace. Not in recession, not depression.

China liquidity crunch is easier to solve as compared to US subprime mess.
PBOC can provide liquidity if situation turn worse, after all, China capital market and banking is not as open and free as US. So PBOC should able to solve it much easier than US subprime version.
After all, a minor liquidity crunch may be good for long term future, by killing off persistent high inflation in China, as well as taming the loan growth that spur the inflation.

If there is severe liquidity crunch like 2008 crisis, then it may provide a second life chance to buy dirt cheap stock again.
Seldom lottery hit twice one...  tongue.gif
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I refer more on the Malaysia than worldwide .

U mentioned our rates are very stable for 10 years, but it is also a known local fact our Govt does not pay u on time, dragging here and there on payments.

So what is the use of projecting a good and stable economy .........
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QUOTE(SKY 1809 @ Jun 26 2013, 03:28 PM)
Despite the construction and property booms, very little money flows to the contractors ....... hmm.gif

I hope it would not turn out  something to be bad.........
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U involved in construction sector? hmm.gif

QUOTE(Boon3 @ Jun 26 2013, 03:32 PM)
I have a many tennis balls lying around somewhere... tongue.gif
I also got a couple of golf balls lying around somewhere ....
I don't know where I kept my bowling ball...
The football is at the corner... that I know.
I can't find the basketball.... grrr....

I am looking see at Salcon. tongue.gif
Question is, do you have the balls to buy a stock whose name has a con within? laugh.gif
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Tarak human balls ah? laugh.gif

Salcon properties relate to Tan Sri Liew, no confidence on him? tongue.gif

More and more company involving in properties market and these companies core business is not in properties sweat.gif
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QUOTE(yhtan @ Jun 26 2013, 03:44 PM)
U involved in construction sector? hmm.gif
Tarak human balls ah? laugh.gif

Salcon properties relate to Tan Sri Liew, no confidence on him? tongue.gif

More and more company involving in properties market and these companies core business is not in properties sweat.gif
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I play Badminton..just happen many of my kaki are contractors or so.

Not the big ones like Gamuda ........

BTW Salcon had announced big projects before, but turning out to be ........a con somehow

Hope history would not repeat itself....

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QUOTE(yhtan @ Jun 26 2013, 03:44 PM)
U involved in construction sector? hmm.gif
Tarak human balls ah? laugh.gif

Salcon properties relate to Tan Sri Liew, no confidence on him? tongue.gif

More and more company involving in properties market and these companies core business is not in properties sweat.gif
Still got risk ma. tongue.gif

Son of Liew. tongue.gif

http://www.theedgemalaysia.com/highlights/...for-salcon.html

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QUOTE(SKY 1809 @ Jun 26 2013, 03:47 PM)
I play Badminton..just happen many of my kaki  are contractors or so.

Not the big ones like Gamuda ........

BTW Salcon had announced big projects before, but turning out to be ........a con somehow
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Non-government project, will only get single digit profit margin. My client complained that property developer (listed co) force them to provide defect liability period of 36 months, 2.5% retention sum release after one year, the rest 2.5% retention sum release after 3 years sweat.gif

Salcon involved in some water engineering, i don't know much about their history hmm.gif
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QUOTE(SKY 1809 @ Jun 26 2013, 03:47 PM)
I play Badminton..just happen many of my kaki  are contractors or so.

Not the big ones like Gamuda ........

BTW Salcon had announced big projects before, but turning out to be ........a con somehow

Hope history would not repeat itself....
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hmm.gif Salcon, I feel its management a bit tricky.........
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Holy shit... I actually bought luster as my 1st ever share, not coz of RC but coz my remisier recommend... That's I kept topping up
Now die lor...
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QUOTE(StupidGuyPlayComp @ Jun 26 2013, 03:52 PM)
hmm.gif Salcon, I feel its management a bit tricky.........
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RC Brand

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QUOTE(StupidGuyPlayComp @ Jun 26 2013, 03:52 PM)
hmm.gif Salcon, I feel its management a bit tricky.........
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I cannot object..... sweat.gif laugh.gif

Salcon... water projects not so geng hor...
And then... this deal with Son of Liew... got conflict of interest as mentioned in the Edge article.
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QUOTE(gark @ Jun 26 2013, 03:52 PM)
No see fundamentals 1 ah? If see fundamentals, you will not keep topping up and catch falling knife...

Anyway welcome to REAL world of stock investment.  wink.gif
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Wah..which reminiser u use? can advise ppl to go holland..
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Pray hard can go up a lil bit... then can cut loss liaw
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QUOTE(LOWYAT3AB @ Jun 26 2013, 04:02 PM)
Must be very careful when trying to chase prices or catching falling knives without knowing
the resistance and support levels or can lose a lot. Hope you have not lost all your capital
(WB's first and second rules) and can fight again another day.
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smile.gif Its good with TA if catching falling knife.........
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Ok lah let the fongsui chart topic rest. laugh.gif
I shall necro it when August comes. brows.gif

Completed analyzing Coastal, me like the balance sheet. brows.gif The retained earnings alone can cover 2 years+ of FY12 total liabilities.

Anyone want to sell to me at RM1.99? tongue.gif
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Ok lah let the fongsui chart topic rest. laugh.gif
I shall necro it when August comes. brows.gif

Completed analyzing Coastal, me like the balance sheet. brows.gif The retained earnings alone can cover 2 years+ of FY12 total liabilities.

Anyone want to sell to me at RM1.99? tongue.gif
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I hold tight tight for 2 years already. Sell now? Party has just began. biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(yok70 @ Jun 26 2013, 04:12 PM)
I hold tight tight for 2 years already. Sell now? Party has just began.  biggrin.gif
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Shall make my entry again on the next bloodbath day. brows.gif
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Haiya! Why REIT starts moving up? Reach yield 6% only move mah! doh.gif
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QUOTE(yhtan @ Jun 26 2013, 04:26 PM)
Properties stock drop down a lot, u got balls to enter? laugh.gif
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Enter liao, huayang, amprop and benalec. finger cross.

I think i should diversify
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QUOTE(yok70 @ Jun 26 2013, 04:13 PM)
Haiya! Why REIT starts moving up? Reach yield 6% only move mah!  doh.gif
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yea lo.. cmmt.. i expect it will drop to 1.5x 1..

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Yeah NAIM and Dayang up up up
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Yeah NAIM and Dayang up up up
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i think tomolo and friday will up up too, window dressing right ?
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QUOTE(mopster @ Jun 26 2013, 05:42 PM)
i think tomolo and friday will up up too, window dressing right ?
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today got diamond fall down from the sky or not? biggrin.gif
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today got diamond fall down from the sky or not? biggrin.gif
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today got diamond fall down from the sky or not? biggrin.gif
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got...... boon3's rabbit... drool.gif
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QUOTE(mopster @ Jun 26 2013, 04:42 PM)
i think tomolo and friday will up up too, window dressing right ?
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Friday (end of month trading day) is always 1 batang day (after 4pm) ... laugh.gif
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i bought quite alot in this morning at 3.60 biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(felixmask @ Jun 26 2013, 04:47 PM)
durian
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durian fall down from sky hit your head = dead
daimond fall down, i think should be ok even if it hit your head... laugh.gif
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QUOTE(cherroy @ Jun 26 2013, 04:48 PM)
Friday (end of month trading day) is always 1 batang day (after 4pm) ...  laugh.gif
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Then can queue sell higher.... hmm.gif
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durian fall down from sky hit your head = dead
daimond fall down, i think should be ok even if it hit your head... laugh.gif
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Diamond is one of the hardest material in this world.
It is being used to cutting tool in industrial usage.

So not something good if a sharp diamond is falling on your head from sky... tongue.gif

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QUOTE(cherroy @ Jun 26 2013, 05:50 PM)
Diamond is one of the hardest material in this world.
It is being used to cutting tool in industrial usage.

So not something good if a sharp diamond is falling on your head from sky...  tongue.gif
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to cause injury, the diamond gotta to BIG enough also laugh.gif
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QUOTE(gark @ Jun 26 2013, 04:48 PM)
durian fall down from sky hit your head = dead
daimond fall down, i think should be ok even if it hit your head... laugh.gif
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Wear helmet before go durian dusun.

DIAMOND fall down defeinely not drop from ppl ring..must be ARMAGEDDON from the space. tongue.gif

maybe SUPERMAN or ULTRAman

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EURO and DJ futures green. Tomoro should be safe day hopefully.
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QUOTE(felixmask @ Jun 26 2013, 05:54 PM)
Wear helmet before go durian dusun.

DIAMOND fall down defeinely not drop from ppl ring..must be ARMAGEDDON from the space.  tongue.gif

maybe SUPERMAN or ULTRAman
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From Rosmah because she is in helicopter ma tongue.gif
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QUOTE(ngaisteve1 @ Jun 26 2013, 04:58 PM)
From Rosmah because she is in helicopter ma  tongue.gif
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I worry she drop from sky then you become ham chin peng, like the guy who was killed in Pg freak accident.
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biggest loss kaunter in my portfolio = wafer at -3%++ doh.gif

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QUOTE(jasontoh @ Jun 26 2013, 05:02 PM)
I worry she drop from sky then you become ham chin peng, like the guy who was killed in Pg freak accident.
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QUOTE(jasontoh @ Jun 26 2013, 05:02 PM)
I worry she drop from sky then you become ham chin peng, like the guy who was killed in Pg freak accident.
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the freak accident also people can come out with alot of freak stories...... laugh.gif
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QUOTE(Pink Spider @ Jun 26 2013, 05:04 PM)
biggest loss kaunter in my portfolio = wafer at -3%++ doh.gif
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Think of upcoming dividend... brows.gif



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QUOTE(gark @ Jun 26 2013, 05:09 PM)
Think of upcoming dividend... brows.gif

Results today see you strike gold or strike mud... laugh.gif
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Just hold and be patient lor, what to do. Treat it as some sort of bank offer punya savings plan with capital lock-in period laugh.gif
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QUOTE(Pink Spider @ Jun 26 2013, 05:11 PM)
Just hold and be patient lor, what to do. Treat it as some sort of bank offer punya savings plan with capital lock-in period laugh.gif
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Hmm i checked, the Q results out yesterday already... no divvy announced with lower earnings.. today's move not surprising leh. tongue.gif
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QUOTE(gark @ Jun 26 2013, 05:13 PM)
Hmm i checked, the Q results out yesterday already... no divvy announced with lower earnings.. today's move not surprising leh.  tongue.gif
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Q-o-Q worse
But Y-o-Y good

Apollo divvy usually wait shareholders approval during AGM, not during quarterly announcement
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QUOTE(Pink Spider @ Jun 26 2013, 05:04 PM)
biggest loss kaunter in my portfolio = wafer at -3%++ doh.gif
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3% only woh, so fast doh.gif
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QUOTE(foofoosasa @ Jun 26 2013, 05:15 PM)
3% only woh, so fast  doh.gif
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u see its spread between buy and sell, usually 4.00+ vs 4.20+

cos all my other kaunters in the black mar, its become a thorn in the rose laugh.gif

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QUOTE(Pink Spider @ Jun 26 2013, 06:17 PM)
u see its spread between buy and sell, usually 4.00+ vs 4.20+

cos all my other kaunters in the black mar, its become a thorn in the rose laugh.gif
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wat stock name?
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wat stock name?
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Ah Paul Lo
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biggest loss kaunter in my portfolio = wafer at -3%++ doh.gif
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Dont sad about APPOLLO

You want to top up carlsberg..let me know..we both yam seng together.
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QUOTE(Pink Spider @ Jun 26 2013, 06:20 PM)
Ah Paul Lo
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Dont sad about APPOLLO

You want to top up carlsberg..let me know..we both yam seng together.
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Found this in mandarin which i can't understand - http://klse.i3investor.com/blogs/kianweiaritcles/32165.jsp

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When it goes RM14.99, we top up tongue.gif
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no problem.. cheers.gif
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I accumulate for long term dividends wan, not for short term gain. u know that rite?
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Then you manyak dividend already.. laugh.gif when want to belanja.. cheers.gif ?
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QUOTE(ngaisteve1 @ Jun 26 2013, 05:23 PM)
Found this in mandarin which i can't understand - http://klse.i3investor.com/blogs/kianweiaritcles/32165.jsp
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2013 fourth quarter:

No dividend has been declared.

As of April 30, 2013, holds Cash balance of 64,860,003 one thousand ringgit borrowing to zero.

Cash flow from operating activities 31,620,004 one thousand ringgit, while investment activities expenditure is 7,540,005 one thousand ringgit.

Free cash flow for the 24,070,009 one thousand ringgit, accounting for 75.1% of net income.

Included in cash flows from financing activities, the quarterly net cash flow created 8,070,009 one thousand ringgit.

Google translate tongue.gif
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Then you manyak dividend already..  laugh.gif  when want to belanja..  cheers.gif ?
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I accumulate for long term dividends wan, not for short term gain. u know that rite?
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YES...me mix 90% long term 10% short term
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mana ada.... sleep.gif
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most of u ppl buy old skool lot size sweat.gif
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my whole portfolio smaller than ur 1 kaunter holding sleep.gif
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your FUNDSUPERMART is Platinum Club Members  tongue.gif
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QUOTE(Pink Spider @ Jun 26 2013, 06:27 PM)
2013 fourth quarter:

  No dividend has been declared.

  As of April 30, 2013, holds Cash balance of 64,860,003 one thousand ringgit borrowing to zero.

  Cash flow from operating activities 31,620,004 one thousand ringgit, while investment activities expenditure is 7,540,005 one thousand ringgit.

  Free cash flow for the 24,070,009 one thousand ringgit, accounting for 75.1% of net income.

  Included in cash flows from financing activities, the quarterly net cash flow created 8,070,009 one thousand ringgit.

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Seem like not many IB write research paper on this is it?
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Seem like not many IB write research paper on this is it?
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Seems like none in the last 6 months...
http://klse.i3investor.com/servlets/stk/6432.jsp

Pink Spider please be our analyst for the Sun God tongue.gif
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QUOTE(river.sand @ Jun 26 2013, 05:35 PM)
Seems like none in the last 6 months...
http://klse.i3investor.com/servlets/stk/6432.jsp

Pink Spider please be our analyst for the Sun God  tongue.gif
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I only do quantitative-based analysis for past 4 years financials, see the trends and growth rate

No qualititive ANALysis

I can share later tonite

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New thread guys, attached with feng shui chart for reference tongue.gif

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need original pic, cant see wat it said. u got original? biggrin.gif
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the file too big cant attach. You may use above link to download into your PC
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smile.gif Its good with TA if catching falling knife.........
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If you know TA and know how to trade, you should know better than to trade any falling knife.

The knife is falling, TA ain't going to tell you when and where the knife will stop precisely.
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Ok lah let the fongsui chart topic rest. laugh.gif
I shall necro it when August comes. brows.gif

Completed analyzing Coastal, me like the balance sheet. brows.gif The retained earnings alone can cover 2 years+ of FY12 total liabilities.

Anyone want to sell to me at RM1.99? tongue.gif
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I object.

Why you give up on Pong Sway chart so easily? tongue.gif

I tell you la, when the time it comes correct, many will go hoo ha over it.
When it is wrong, nobody saw and say nothing. tongue.gif whistling.gif

Coastal?
Why Coastal have so much money?
Why Coastal share no oomph past few years?
Why Coastal profits no oomph past few years?
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got...... boon3's rabbit... drool.gif
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Tip

How to catch a falling rabbit: https://www.google.com.my/search?q=how+to+c...lient=firefox-a

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QUOTE(LOWYAT3AB @ Jun 26 2013, 03:11 PM)
staind, this is reply to your last post

Bjcorp lines have not yet crossed. Still no good buy signal.
Be careful or you can get stuck in sideways or down move.
Better upside potentials in some oil and gas counters which have
started rebounds from temporary low levels. Not chasing prices now.
Monitoring for good buy signals to collect more.
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Monitoring...

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hmm US Q1 GDP 1.8% vs estimated 2.4%.. hmm.gif downward revision in personal spending...
not a very good sign in terms of recovery, but i think mkt may like it coz it may delay Fed's plan..
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hmm US Q1 GDP 1.8% vs estimated 2.4%.. hmm.gif downward revision in personal spending...
not a very good sign in terms of recovery, but i think mkt may like it coz it may delay Fed's plan..
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It is a crazy world right now.

Don't like better economy data... laugh.gif

See, market too much addict to QE drug already, market cannot think rationally already... laugh.gif

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Check in.
Is this for US or Malaysian market  hmm.gif
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QUOTE(Boon3 @ Jun 26 2013, 06:19 PM)
laugh.gif

I object.

Why you give up on Pong Sway chart so easily? tongue.gif

I tell you la, when the time it comes correct, many will go hoo ha over it.
When it is wrong, nobody saw and say nothing. tongue.gif  whistling.gif

Coastal?
Why Coastal have so much money?
Why Coastal share no oomph past few years?
Why Coastal profits no oomph past few years?
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Endless objections. sweat.gif

I never take it seriously in the 1st place. tongue.gif
Just find it interesting on how the creator thought of the flow. blink.gif

The beauty of human minds.
Smart ones will take advantage of these.

My POV would be that the nature of the business is more risky and no constant income stream. hmm.gif
So no oomph on the share price.

Funds rich cz need more funds for emergency.

But that could change with their entry into rig business as its considered recurring income?
Didn't study the sector in depth, just some common sense blabbering. thumbup.gif

Prepared to kena condemn again cry.gif

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Endless objections.  sweat.gif

I never take it seriously in the 1st place. tongue.gif
Just find it interesting on how the creator thought of the flow.  blink.gif 

The beauty of human minds. 
Smart ones will take advantage of these. 

My POV would be that the nature of the business is more risky and no constant income stream.  hmm.gif
So no oomph on the share price.

Funds rich cz need more funds for emergency.

But that could change with their entry into rig business as its considered recurring income?
Didn't study the sector in depth, just some common sense blabbering.  thumbup.gif

Prepared to kena condemn again  cry.gif
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QUOTE(V-Zero @ Jun 26 2013, 11:23 PM)
Endless objections.  sweat.gif

I never take it seriously in the 1st place. tongue.gif
Just find it interesting on how the creator thought of the flow.  blink.gif 

The beauty of human minds. 
Smart ones will take advantage of these. 

My POV would be that the nature of the business is more risky and no constant income stream.  hmm.gif
So no oomph on the share price.

Funds rich cz need more funds for emergency.

But that could change with their entry into rig business as its considered recurring income?
Didn't study the sector in depth, just some common sense blabbering.  thumbup.gif

Prepared to kena condemn again  cry.gif
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laugh.gif

I object that you object my endless comments. tongue.gif

Good that you have your own POV on Coastal.
Just teasing.

Yeah, them entering the rig business could equate to potential.

GL.


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QUOTE(Boon3 @ Jun 26 2013, 11:54 PM)
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I object that you object my endless comments. tongue.gif

Good that you have your own POV on Coastal.
Just teasing.

Yeah, them entering the rig business could equate to potential.

GL.
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Two charts for you.

user posted image

user posted image

Yes, the past might no matter.
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QUOTE(Boon3 @ Jun 27 2013, 08:17 AM)
Two charts for you.

» Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... «


Yes, the past might no matter.
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The FY2013 result is year to date right?
But.. I'm only willing to buy at RM1.99 tongue.gif

Seems like need to tankuku.com
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The FY2013 result is year to date right?
But.. I'm only willing to buy at RM1.99  tongue.gif

Seems like need to tankuku.com
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1.99? laugh.gif

Did you notice that was a chart from 2011 to present?
Did you realise that KLCI had been hitting highs during this period?


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QUOTE(Boon3 @ Jun 27 2013, 08:32 AM)
1.99? laugh.gif

Did you notice that was a chart from 2011 to present?
Did you realise that KLCI had been hitting highs during this period?
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KLCI 08-13
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Coastal 08-13
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Its pretty much in sync with KLCI, and to me RM1.95 - RM1.99 range is a pretty good base / support. unsure.gif
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Some charts... tongue.gif

user posted image

user posted image

user posted image

user posted image

user posted image

user posted image

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^ I looked into Gadang and Salcon's annual report yesterday and I stopped not even half-way. blush.gif

Don't really like the financial.
Perhaps am not really into properties/cyclical sector.
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QUOTE(V-Zero @ Jun 27 2013, 08:44 AM)
KLCI 08-13
user posted image

Coastal 08-13
user posted image

Its pretty much in sync with KLCI, and to me RM1.95 - RM1.99 range is a pretty good base / support.  unsure.gif
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Good effort but I object. laugh.gif

Cos I won't stretch it that far back. The data, has to be more relevant.
Hehe.. for this point, you have the right to object to my objections.

» Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... «


You look again at the very first Coastal chart I posted.
What would be an interesting thing to note?


QUOTE(V-Zero @ Jun 27 2013, 08:51 AM)
^ I looked into Gadang and Salcon's annual report yesterday and I stopped not even half-way. blush.gif

Don't really like the financial.
Perhaps am not really into properties/cyclical sector.
laugh.gif

Those are random charts.
In case you do not know, I am a trader.

Gadang and Salcon, you can actually see some sort of similarities with Coastal.
The reason to buy is the said 'potential'...
Gadang got it's new mega housing project.
Salcon diversifying big time into properties with the son of a property master.
Coastal diversifying into the rig business.
And if you take out the 'potential' there's nothing much to shout about.

So yes, Gadang and Salcon's annual report is not something you want to read.

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QUOTE(Boon3 @ Jun 27 2013, 08:59 AM)
Good effort but I object. laugh.gif

Cos I won't stretch it that far back. The data, has to be more relevant.
Hehe.. for this point, you have the right to object to my objections.

» Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... «


You look again at the very first Coastal chart I posted.
What would be an interesting thing to note?

laugh.gif

Those are random charts.
In case you do not know, I am a trader.

Gadang and Salcon, you can actually see some sort of similarities with Coastal.
The reason to buy is the said 'potential'...
Gadang got it's new mega housing project.
Salcon diversifying big time into properties with the son of a property master.
Coastal diversifying into the rig business.
And if you take out the 'potential' there's nothing much to shout about.

So yes, Gadang and Salcon's annual report is not something you want to read. 

» Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... «

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Pong Sway again vmad.gif vmad.gif

Probably people expecting good things during 2011-2012, but then the gross profit dropped quite a chunk.
That explains the drop from Feb - June 2012.

Yup I won't be looking at it if there's no potential.
I'm more of an investor with passion in trading. tongue.gif

And well.. I read annual reports while working everyday. doh.gif

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QUOTE(Boon3 @ Jun 27 2013, 08:17 AM)
Two charts for you.

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Yes, the past might no matter.
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mind sharing where can i get the chart with profit margin ah? thanks smile.gif notworthy.gif
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mind sharing where can i get the chart with profit margin ah? thanks smile.gif  notworthy.gif
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You use site like this here
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KLCI gogogo!
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QUOTE(V-Zero @ Jun 27 2013, 09:10 AM)
Pong Sway again  vmad.gif  vmad.gif

Probably people expecting good things during 2011-2012, but then the gross profit dropped quite a chunk.
That explains the drop from Feb - June 2012.

Yup I won't be looking at it if there's no potential.
I'm more of an investor with passion in trading.  tongue.gif

And well.. I read annual reports while working everyday.  doh.gif
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laugh.gif

Ok... no more P & S for now. tongue.gif

Here's another thing.

As you can see in your chart, Coastal shares did extremely well up to 2011.
It was terror geng.
It became an investor darling of a stock.
Here's the thing. If one bought say after 2011 ( because Coastal was an investing hot stock) and held the stock until today, they would find their investment rather fruitless, and as you have now noted, Coastal profits since 2011 have been pretty poor.
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The analyst is a Malay  hmm.gif
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Find a drunkard like me to ANALyse brewery stocks, sure mabuk geh ANALysis laugh.gif
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QUOTE(Boon3 @ Jun 27 2013, 09:35 AM)
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Ok... no more P & S for now. tongue.gif

Here's another thing.

As you can see in your chart, Coastal shares did extremely well up to 2011.
It was terror geng.
It became an investor darling of a stock.
Here's the thing. If one bought say after 2011 ( because Coastal was an investing hot stock) and held the stock until today, they would find their investment rather fruitless, and as you have now noted, Coastal profits since 2011 have been pretty poor.
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for now yes, I'll bring it back on August. thumbup.gif

Ah yes my previous holding gave me 5% ROI for 1 year or so. laugh.gif
As of now still no sign of recovery yet, probably the only thing stopping it from rolling over is the strong balance sheet.

With their entry into rig biz, might give some potential into this otherwise boring stock. nod.gif
Anyway I retain my entry price of not more than RM1.99 or else I'd skip. tongue.gif
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QUOTE(Boon3 @ Jun 27 2013, 08:46 AM)
Some charts... tongue.gif
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Explain a bit lar.... rclxub.gif

All i see is candles... tongue.gif
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for now yes, I'll bring it back on August.  thumbup.gif
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Whet the ....

I object la .....

This means you are saying Pong Sway can be wrong for April, May, June and maybe July but most important is August ah? LOL!

Like I said.... Pong Sway is only terror geng when it is correct.
When it is wrong, nobody see nothing and nobody say nothing.

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Explain a bit lar.... rclxub.gif

All i see is candles...  tongue.gif
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What candles?
All I see is bars. tongue.gif

Harloooo..... what to buy ah?
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QUOTE(Boon3 @ Jun 27 2013, 09:51 AM)
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Whet the ....

I object la .....

This means you are saying Pong Sway can be wrong for April, May, June and maybe July but most important is August ah? LOL!

Like I said.... Pong Sway is only terror geng when it is correct.
When it is wrong, nobody see nothing and nobody say nothing.

tongue.gif
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The saying goes, you can be wrong 100 times, just be right once. icon_idea.gif

You see ar those roadside/pasar pagi/pasar malam/pasar tengah malam/whatever offering forecast services, quite alot uncle auntie go one.
Then if its not accurate they'll like forget about it, if its correct, you also know what happen. tongue.gif

Follow the herd, will you? whistling.gif
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QUOTE(Boon3 @ Jun 27 2013, 09:51 AM)
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Whet the ....

I object la .....

This means you are saying Pong Sway can be wrong for April, May, June and maybe July but most important is August ah? LOL!

Like I said.... Pong Sway is only terror geng when it is correct.
When it is wrong, nobody see nothing and nobody say nothing.

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What candles?
All I see is bars.  tongue.gif

Harloooo..... what to buy ah?
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I also rclxub.gif already...

YTLPOWER seems to like wan to come back... hmm.gif

I am holding the warrant since last year... laugh.gif

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QUOTE(StupidGuyPlayComp @ Jun 27 2013, 09:57 AM)
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Have to...   laugh.gif
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rclxub.gif rclxub.gif rclxub.gif

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QUOTE(V-Zero @ Jun 27 2013, 09:55 AM)
The saying goes, you can be wrong 100 times, just be right once.  icon_idea.gif

You see ar those roadside/pasar pagi/pasar malam/pasar tengah malam/whatever offering forecast services, quite alot uncle auntie go one.
Then if its not accurate they'll like forget about it, if its correct, you also know what happen.  tongue.gif

Follow the herd, will you?
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I object... I utterly cannot tahan that song 'I will follow you...... '

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Stock market follow here, follow there... you always be one or two steps behind liao.
How to win in the long run?
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QUOTE(gark @ Jun 27 2013, 09:58 AM)
I also  rclxub.gif  already...

YTLPOWER seems to like wan to come back... hmm.gif

I am holding the warrant since last year... laugh.gif
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I saw your other post... tongue.gif

Yes, I cannot object to your point on YTL Power.
The chart clearly showed that the rot had some what stopped for the time being and that YTLP has slowly but surely recover since hitting the 140s low.

Holding the warrant ah? tongue.gif
Kena from Ah Yeoh lor...
You should tell him off... hehe


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I object to your objection to other's objecting you to object without objecting your objection.  laugh.gif
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Ini hantam kasi pengsan. tongue.gif

QUOTE(Boon3 @ Jun 27 2013, 10:01 AM)
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I object... I utterly cannot tahan that song 'I will follow you...... '

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Stock market follow here, follow there... you always be one or two steps behind liao.
How to win in the long run?
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So you don't like DiGi. whistling.gif
Sialcom/Maxshyt/Yiumobile? laugh.gif
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QUOTE(V-Zero @ Jun 27 2013, 10:04 AM)
Ini hantam kasi pengsan.  tongue.gif
So you don't like DiGi.  whistling.gif
Sialcom/Maxshyt/Yiumobile?  laugh.gif
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LOL!!! Wei!

I only don't like the song leh.

Me not a heavy mobile user so for me, I have no complains with any of them.


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I saw your other post... tongue.gif

Yes, I cannot object to your point on YTL Power.
The chart clearly showed that the rot had some what stopped for the time being and that YTLP has slowly but surely recover since hitting the 140s low.

Holding the warrant ah? tongue.gif
Kena from Ah Yeoh lor...
You should tell him off... hehe
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I already kena from ah Yeoh, by first holding the mother, then as the dividend getting lesser, sold the mother and convert to wa (thus increase my leverage 5x sweat.gif ). This is due to that time warrant is selling at negative premium, so mah convert loh. So far good decision, since shortly after that he stopped dividend totally.

Now already positive, just want to recover some previous losses and run away... laugh.gif
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HUAYANG is good this morning. Hopefully can keep it up till the end.
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QUOTE(gark @ Jun 27 2013, 09:58 AM)
I also  rclxub.gif  already...

YTLPOWER seems to like wan to come back... hmm.gif

I am holding the warrant since last year... laugh.gif
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Uncle Yeoh very aggresive in share buy back recently sweat.gif
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Uncle Yeoh very aggresive in share buy back recently sweat.gif
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Good lah.. indirectly supporting the wa... rclxms.gif

He already buy back like 600 million shares already... i think he wan to kasi habis his 10 billion cash? rclxub.gif

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You use site like this here
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Any ways we can extract these profit margin etc. data from all 1000 stocks and analyze by let say Ms excel ah? hmm.gif
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Thanks for the share  rclxms.gif

Any ways we can extract these profit margin etc. data from all 1000 stocks and analyze by let say Ms excel ah? hmm.gif
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Of course can but for people like me, I won't. I can be very malas. sweat.gif

You can get all the data from Bursa website yourself and then load them into your own excel.
And if you are good at it and can come out with some canggih stuff, you can make it into an APP and then make some money from it...


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Have to...  laugh.gif
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QUOTE(ngaisteve1 @ Jun 27 2013, 10:09 AM)
HUAYANG is good this morning. Hopefully can keep it up till the end.
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Important to have the 10th man.  smile.gif
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i hooted a bit ... u got also?
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me also been holding tight tight for few months now...
but my entry price is much higher than yours, just breakeven now.

QUOTE(gark @ Jun 27 2013, 10:16 AM)
Good lah.. indirectly supporting the wa... rclxms.gif

He already buy back like 600 million shares already... i think he wan to kasi habis his 10 billion cash?  rclxub.gif
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QUOTE(gark @ Jun 27 2013, 10:16 AM)
Good lah.. indirectly supporting the wa... rclxms.gif

He already buy back like 600 million shares already... i think he wan to kasi habis his 10 billion cash?  rclxub.gif
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Bought back 200mil+ shares, roughly about RM300mil spent sweat.gif

Take this and distribute dividend is much more viable, at least for each shareholder doh.gif

Let's take 7.1bil share issued out (minus out treasury share), distribute 0.9375 cent dividend is about RM67mil each quarter, annually RM270mil, that is the same amount as the share buyback already sweat.gif

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Lower US GDP boosts share markets worldwide , damn weird .....

Still hoping for more stimulus coming ?
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Still got MTD  hmm.gif
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Hoping for the best now. rclxms.gif
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Already loaded some during the recent downturn.
Hoping for the best now.  rclxms.gif
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thheavy boleh ah boon?
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Anyone holding SYMLIFE (Bolton) or SAPRES (Sapura Resources) ? biggrin.gif
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Lower US GDP boosts share markets worldwide , damn weird .....

Still hoping for more stimulus coming ?
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thheavy boleh ah boon?
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You throw enough minyak into wok then I think sure can. tongue.gif

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QUOTE(yhtan @ Jun 27 2013, 10:24 AM)
Bought back 200mil+ shares, roughly about RM300mil spent sweat.gif

Take this and distribute dividend is much more viable, at least for each shareholder doh.gif

Let's take 7.1bil share issued out (minus out treasury share), distribute 0.9375 cent dividend is about RM67mil each quarter, annually RM270mil, that is the same amount as the share buyback already sweat.gif
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I think ah.. he want to reduce outstanding shares for share swap with YTL... whistling.gif
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I think ah.. he want to reduce outstanding shares for share swap with YTL... whistling.gif
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QUOTE(Boon3 @ Jun 27 2013, 11:15 AM)
Master wok asking me? tongue.gif

You throw enough minyak into wok then I think sure can. tongue.gif

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I think so too but if SWAP you think you benefit or not? tongue.gif
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Donno oh.. depend on swap price...

I already 1 foot in water.. can only hope for the best lar... laugh.gif

YTLPOWR-WB @ 0.50 is already good enough for me... can cabut with handsome profit...cause now heavily leveraged... sweat.gif

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QUOTE(Boon3 @ Jun 27 2013, 11:15 AM)
Master wok asking me? tongue.gif

You throw enough minyak into wok then I think sure can. tongue.gif

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volume dying, where is TS Quek support !!!
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You got a point but do note that last volume bar is showing today's trading.
Lack of volume could showed lack of buying interest/support.

The opposite side would argue that the lack of volume is positive cos it showed that despite THHeavy sliding/falling down during recent 'correction' the small volume would indicate that the strong hands held on to the stocks. Also with the poor market sentiment, one cannot expect to see gung ho buying of the stock (ie increase volume).

Very subjective hor... and yes, you may object if you want too. tongue.gif
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Donno oh.. depend on swap price...

I already 1 foot in water.. can only hope for the best lar... laugh.gif

YTLPOWR-WB @ 0.50 is already good enough for me... can cabut with handsome profit...cause now heavily leveraged... sweat.gif
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Tamak nia... tongue.gif

I dunno but this Ah Yeoh quite cunning hor. tongue.gif
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Tamak nia... tongue.gif

I dunno but this Ah Yeoh quite cunning hor.  tongue.gif
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Haha, make sure the wok no water la else sendiri kena burn later.  biggrin.gif
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Very cunning.. last time got cheated by him in YTL cement share swap... vmad.gif
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See ghost jor still no scare? tongue.gif
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See ghost jor still no scare? tongue.gif
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Initially felt cheated, but then get YTL shares, went up sell..got profit so ok lah...
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oh BIOSIS....who got it at 0.135 today? lowest ever..
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oh BIOSIS....who got it at 0.135 today? lowest ever..
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It went down cos BIOSIS entering PN17.

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Very few shares ( only 105,000,000 ) .....
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It went down cos BIOSIS entering PN17.

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Very few shares ( only 105,000,000 ) .....
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Typical panic selling by small fishes and feast time for big sharks. sleep.gif
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Initially felt cheated, but then get YTL shares, went up sell..got profit so ok lah...
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Nice description of what happened. tongue.gif
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QUOTE(gark @ Jun 27 2013, 11:15 AM)
I think ah.. he want to reduce outstanding shares for share swap with YTL... whistling.gif
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QUOTE(gark @ Jun 27 2013, 11:26 AM)
Very cunning.. last time got cheated by him in YTL cement share swap... vmad.gif
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I kena bite by his counter, treat minority like nobody doh.gif
2nd and 3rd generation is much more different than his father whistling.gif

Those minority shareholder of YTL Cement who didn't opt for share swap, end up they received 10% DY laugh.gif



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Typical panic selling by small fishes and feast time for big sharks. sleep.gif
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thheavy i holding too, sitting on loss but recovering
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slowly gua....

QUOTE(Boon3 @ Jun 27 2013, 11:15 AM)
Master wok asking me? tongue.gif

You throw enough minyak into wok then I think sure can. tongue.gif

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725 keep dancing there... doesnt looks good for me.... i skip first... icon_rolleyes.gif
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Typical panic selling by small fishes and feast time for big sharks. sleep.gif
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hoi laughing gor you are still here, hows your luster? you sell d? mana pipul here burn their hand because of luster icon_idea.gif

QUOTE(kueyteowlou @ Jun 27 2013, 11:46 AM)
slowly gua....
725 keep dancing there... doesnt looks good for me.... i skip first...  icon_rolleyes.gif
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Yup slowly, but i think good for long term holding icon_idea.gif
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Typical panic selling by small fishes and feast time for big sharks. sleep.gif
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max whats your TP?
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max whats your TP?
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I was told by drc cronies 0.25 la..
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slowly gua....
725 keep dancing there... doesnt looks good for me.... i skip first...  icon_rolleyes.gif
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QUOTE(MarketingDude @ Jun 27 2013, 11:49 AM)
hoi laughing gor you are still here, hows your luster? you sell d? mana pipul here burn their hand because of luster  icon_idea.gif
Yup slowly, but i think good for long term holding  icon_idea.gif
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Hahahahhaa. Luster i sold all mine at i think 3rd june at 0.24. lololol..now im following drc la changing to biosis la..
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slowly gua....
725 keep dancing there... doesnt looks good for me.... i skip first...  icon_rolleyes.gif
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Agree. Better stay away now and wait for buy signal.

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QUOTE(Maximus1234 @ Jun 27 2013, 11:52 AM)
Hahahahhaa. Luster i sold all mine at i think 3rd june at 0.24. lololol..now im following drc la changing to biosis la..
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If u do not trap the ikan bakar, then how to sell Luster at 24sen hmm.gif

I mean big adv and new flows everywhere ( re Luster ) before turning them into Ikan Bakar......
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Alex Lu writing your Ah Paul Loo counter. brows.gif

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Hahahahhaa. Luster i sold all mine at i think 3rd june at 0.24. lololol..now im following drc la changing to biosis la..
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so nest target is biosis? now still can enter?
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If u do not trap the ikan bakar, then how to sell  Luster at 24sen  hmm.gif

I mean big adv and new flows everywhere ( re Luster ) before turning them into Ikan Bakar......
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hahaha.whos ikan bakar? but luster is typical goreng counter la..i would say only those who are greedy will burn their hands.
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If u do not trap the ikan bakar, then how to sell  Luster at 24sen  hmm.gif

I mean big adv and new flows everywhere ( re Luster ) before turning them into Ikan Bakar......
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hahaha.whos ikan bakar? but luster is typical goreng counter la..i would say only those who are greedy will burn their hands.
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QUOTE(MarketingDude @ Jun 27 2013, 11:57 AM)
so nest target is biosis? now still can enter?
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Yea, now a lot of people panic sell and the big sharks nicely collecting at low price. i would say 0.14 to 0.155 is good price to enter cause TP is 0.25.
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Yea, now a lot of people panic sell and the big sharks nicely collecting at low price. i would say 0.14 to 0.155 is good price to enter cause TP is 0.25.
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u sudah masuk at what price? many pipul queing at 0.14..you are one of them right? icon_idea.gif
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QUOTE(Maximus1234 @ Jun 27 2013, 11:59 AM)
hahaha.whos ikan bakar? but luster is typical goreng counter la..i would say only those who are greedy will burn their hands.
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I thought u told forumers to support Luster back at 17 to 18 sen. laugh.gif

Now , u and RC are hand free on Luster, well done Vampires thumbup.gif

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QUOTE(Maximus1234 @ Jun 27 2013, 12:00 PM)
Yea, now a lot of people panic sell and the big sharks nicely collecting at low price. i would say 0.14 to 0.155 is good price to enter cause TP is 0.25.
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RC don't even have money to take care his own counter Harvest....

Luster.... don't even mention about it... let ppl laugh until jaws drop only.... laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif
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u sudah masuk at what price? many pipul queing at 0.14..you are one of them right?  icon_idea.gif
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i bought some at 0.17 and 0.14..so now my average is about 0.155 la..now is waiting game la.
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QUOTE(SKY 1809 @ Jun 27 2013, 11:56 AM)
If u do not trap the ikan bakar, then how to sell  Luster at 24sen  hmm.gif

I mean big adv and new flows everywhere ( re Luster ) before turning them into Ikan Bakar......
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Ikan Charcoal also got.. blush.gif
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QUOTE(kueyteowlou @ Jun 27 2013, 12:05 PM)
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RC don't even have money to take care his own counter Harvest....

Luster.... don't even mention about it... let ppl laugh until jaws drop only....  laugh.gif  laugh.gif  laugh.gif  laugh.gif  laugh.gif
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He odeli warns the forumers, dig yxxx..own graves first if they want to play RC stocks . laugh.gif

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He odeli warns the forumers, dig yxxx..own graves first  if they want to play RC stocks . laugh.gif
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i see.. harvest slowly moving up mah...


RC enough hand to play few stocks ah??? hmm.gif

i mean bullets... laugh.gif brows.gif
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QUOTE(kueyteowlou @ Jun 27 2013, 12:24 PM)
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i see.. harvest slowly moving up mah...
RC enough hand to play few stocks ah???  hmm.gif 

i mean bullets...  laugh.gif  brows.gif
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QUOTE(madkancil @ Jun 27 2013, 12:29 PM)
luster will be back with a vengeance...
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If more ikan bakar want to take part , it is possible yawn.gif

Good luck to you anyway...

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QUOTE(Maximus1234 @ Jun 27 2013, 01:06 PM)
i bought some at 0.17 and 0.14..so now my average is about 0.155 la..now is waiting game la.
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QUOTE(staind @ Jun 26 2013, 07:37 PM)
Yesterday SMA50 and SMA200 kissed. Today is officially crossed. SMA50 = 0.580, SMA200 = 0.579. haha. PE ratio = 60 counter.
Monitoring...

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Nothing to be excited about Bjcorp. Crossover not strong.
Not bullish signal. Deadweight like Mas which cannot takeoff
as it cannot break resistance level I mentioned last time.
These 2 stocks not going up unless they show strong buying signals.
Have not bought them. I am more interested in oil and gas stocks
which have rebounded strongly from their temporary bottoms because
they have corrected a lot recently. Have collected some. Trying to
get more but some prices are too high to chase now. I think one
"good"buy left is 7108WA at 75c and below. Not buy/sell recommendations.

Are you a trader or long-term investor ? I am both and make my
trading and investment decisions by using some FA mainly from
reports by analysts and also just by looking at charts of closing
prices at the end of each day to identify the daily resistance and support
levels, which help me try to keep losses small and get some big gains.

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hi pinky,

  Alex Lu writing your Ah Paul Loo counter.  brows.gif

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Still a lot of people pretty bullish mah, last few days all in pessimism mode. Within few days totally change mode again biggrin.gif...
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Thursday, June 27, 2013
Apollo- top-line & bottom-line slid
Result Update

For QE30/4/2013, Apollo's net profit dropped 23% q-o-q or 18% y-o-y to RM7 million while revenue was lower by 4% q-o-q or 3% y-o-y to RM55 million. Top-line & bottom-line dropped due to lower demand from both local and export markets as compared to the festive months in QE31/1/2013. The lower revenue and higher operating cost had resulted in a decrease in the current quarter’s profit.


Table 1: Apollo's last 8 quarterly results


Chart 2: Apollo's last 23 quarterly results

Valuation

Apollo (closed at RM4.05 yesterday) is now trading at a PE of 10 times (based on last 4 quarters' EPS of 40 sen). For a consumer stock, Apollo's valuation is deemed undemanding.

Technical Outlook

Apollo is in a gradual uptrend which accelerated over the past 6 months. This sudden acceleration may taper off and the stock may move in a sideway manner for a while. It shoudl however find good support at the psychological RM4.00 level.


Chart 2: Apollo's weekly chart as at June 27, 2013_10.00am (Source: Quickcharts)

Conclusion

Despite poorer financial performance, Apollo is still an attractive stock with positive technical outlook. As such,, Apollo remained a good stock for a long-term investment.

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QUOTE(Pink Spider @ Jun 27 2013, 01:21 PM)
boleh copy and pasta? office blocked blogs doh.gif
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Apalah... block blog but don't block lolyat? laugh.gif Which 1 more time wasting... laugh.gif

QUOTE
Result Update
For QE30/4/2013, Apollo's net profit dropped 23% q-o-q or 18% y-o-y to RM7 million while revenue was lower by 4% q-o-q or 3% y-o-y to RM55 million. Top-line & bottom-line dropped due to lower demand from both local and export markets as compared to the festive months in QE31/1/2013. The lower revenue and higher operating cost had resulted in a decrease in the current quarter’s profit.

Valuation
Apollo (closed at RM4.05 yesterday) is now trading at a PE of 10 times (based on last 4 quarters' EPS of 40 sen). For a consumer stock, Apollo's valuation is deemed undemanding.

Technical Outlook
Apollo is in a gradual uptrend which accelerated over the past 6 months. This sudden acceleration may taper off and the stock may move in a sideway manner for a while. It should however find good support at the psychological RM4.00 level.

Conclusion
Despite poorer financial performance, Apollo is still an attractive stock with positive technical outlook. As such,, Apollo remained a good stock for a long-term investment.

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QUOTE(gark @ Jun 27 2013, 01:26 PM)
Apalah... block blog but don't block lolyat?  laugh.gif Which 1 more time wasting...  laugh.gif
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Blogs got hamsap things, cheong blogs

Lowyat no such things...I think whistling.gif
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QUOTE(Pink Spider @ Jun 27 2013, 01:27 PM)
Blogs got hamsap things, cheong blogs

Lowyat no such things...I think whistling.gif
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I decide to sappork you.. i queue at RM 4.00 laugh.gif
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I decide to sappork you.. i queue at RM 4.00  laugh.gif
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5436 ... later will announce div.... 20sen +
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26.5 cent dividend right? equal to how much dividend yield?
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QUOTE(gark @ Jun 27 2013, 01:29 PM)
I decide to sappork you.. i queue at RM 4.00  laugh.gif
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wah so many people queue at 4.00 meh...
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I remember a sifu once told me, if a stock is attractive, just take the seller's price sleep.gif
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Haha.. this stock ok ok.. not that attractive yet... wink.gif

But i like the net cash and divvy... other than that the growth is a bit...ugh. laugh.gif
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wah so many people queue at 4.00 meh...
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You also queue at 4 meh? Jialat lio.. everyone target 4 4 4 4 4 4 4 4
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QUOTE(gark @ Jun 27 2013, 01:33 PM)
Haha.. this stock ok ok.. not that attractive yet... wink.gif

But i like the net cash and divvy... other than that the growth is a bit...ugh. laugh.gif
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QUOTE(gark @ Jun 27 2013, 02:34 PM)
You also queue at 4 meh? Jialat lio.. everyone target 4 4 4 4 4 4 4 4
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Me too,no la laugh.gif
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QUOTE(Pink Spider @ Jun 27 2013, 01:36 PM)
u expecting high double digits growth for a cheapalak junk food stock meh doh.gif
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Mamee did it ..before taken private.. sad.gif

CI holdings also did it.. before sold to the japs.. sad.gif
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I decide to sappork you.. i queue at RM 4.00  laugh.gif
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huhuuuu!!!

Got listen better don't pick lose. tongue.gif

Faster go pull out Apollo 11 chart.

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Q at 4 ah?

Errr.... scratching hair... mellow.gif
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QUOTE(gark @ Jun 27 2013, 01:34 PM)
You also queue at 4 meh? Jialat lio.. everyone target 4 4 4 4 4 4 4 4
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QUOTE(gark @ Jun 27 2013, 01:39 PM)
Mamee did it ..before taken private.. sad.gif

CI holdings also did it.. before sold to the japs.. sad.gif
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Lesson of the day? Go buy a private firm! Venture capital! Stocks are not for u laugh.gif
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QUOTE(Boon3 @ Jun 27 2013, 01:39 PM)
huhuuuu!!!

Got listen better don't pick lose. tongue.gif

Faster go pull out Apollo 11 chart.

user posted image

Q at 4 ah?

Errr.... scratching hair...  mellow.gif
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Haha... boon gor object ah? laugh.gif

Tell me what you see at chart... laugh.gif
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QUOTE(gark @ Jun 27 2013, 01:48 PM)
Haha... boon gor object ah?  laugh.gif

Tell me what you see at chart... laugh.gif
I object. tongue.gif

You should tell me first what you see ma....


Today I give chance...

4 is like... errr.... you see the big empty space below 4?
Lot of empty space hor... I sked.

Not sure got labbit hole below or what.... tongue.gif

So I rather not Q at 4 and instead I rather sell at 4. tongue.gif
Having said that... I no know how and I not smart to play this stock now la.... I rather wait la.

my POV and you have all the rights to object till I pengsan. sweat.gif

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QUOTE(Boon3 @ Jun 27 2013, 01:56 PM)
I object. tongue.gif

You should tell me first what you see ma....
Today I give chance...

4 is like... errr.... you see the big empty space below 4?
Lot of empty space hor... I sked.

Not sure got labbit hole below or what.... tongue.gif

So I rather not Q at 4 and instead I rather sell at 4. tongue.gif
Having said that... I no know how and I not smart to play this stock now la.... I rather wait la.

my POV and you have all the rights to object till I pengsan.  sweat.gif
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i objecttt ur playing style like uncle !!!!

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QUOTE(Boon3 @ Jun 27 2013, 11:24 AM)
You got a point but do note that last volume bar is showing today's trading.
Lack of volume could showed lack of buying interest/support.

The opposite side would argue that the lack of volume is positive cos it showed that despite THHeavy sliding/falling down during recent 'correction' the small volume would indicate that the strong hands held on to the stocks. Also with the poor market sentiment, one cannot expect to see gung ho buying of the stock (ie increase volume).

Very subjective hor... and yes, you may object if you want too. tongue.gif
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nolah, i am not qualify pratitioner (SIFU) so cannot call object tongue.gif
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QUOTE(Boon3 @ Jun 27 2013, 01:56 PM)
I object. tongue.gif

You should tell me first what you see ma....
Today I give chance...

4 is like... errr.... you see the big empty space below 4?
Lot of empty space hor... I sked.

Not sure got labbit hole below or what.... tongue.gif

So I rather not Q at 4 and instead I rather sell at 4. tongue.gif
Having said that... I no know how and I not smart to play this stock now la.... I rather wait la.

my POV and you have all the rights to object till I pengsan.  sweat.gif
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Wah you expect it to fall back to the previous 3.20 ah? laugh.gif

You know i don't see chart 1 right...

PE 10x .. - ok lar

Cash on hand about 70 cents/share - good

Dividend .. emm expect 20-25 cents = 5-5.5% - fair lah

ROE ~ 10%-15% - fair lah

FCF = about 40-45 cents/year... so it is sustainable - good

Growth = more or less flat = no good

Margin = ~15% ok lar

Not a high earning stock.. merely like FD stock... whistling.gif


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QUOTE(kueyteowlou @ Jun 27 2013, 01:59 PM)
i objecttt ur playing style like uncle !!!!

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You........ cannot OBJECT. laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif


If not uncle style, this would imply that I am really, really positive about the stock.
If that is the case.
Got kill no let go tactic liao.
Which means sapu the sell Q now at err.. 4.08... and use 4 as my kiasi point.
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QUOTE(ngaisteve1 @ Jun 27 2013, 02:32 PM)
26.5 cent dividend right? equal to how much dividend yield?
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5 - 6.5% tongue.gif

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QUOTE(Boon3 @ Jun 27 2013, 01:39 PM)
huhuuuu!!!

Got listen better don't pick lose. tongue.gif

Faster go pull out Apollo 11 chart.

user posted image

Q at 4 ah?

Errr.... scratching hair...  mellow.gif
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Whats with the Apollo party?
Ok I go queue some big lots at 4.01. laugh.gif

From the chart just draw a simple support line and you will see the support had been breached.
Might go down more. whistling.gif
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Someone needs to dump 200 lots of Apollo at 4.45 and see how the stock sinks .
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QUOTE(gark @ Jun 27 2013, 02:03 PM)
Wah you expect it to fall back to the previous 3.20 ah?  laugh.gif

You know i don't see chart 1 right...

PE 10x .. - ok lar

Cash on hand about 70 cents/share - good

Dividend .. emm expect 20-25 cents = 5-5.5% - fair lah

ROE ~ 10%-15% - fair lah

FCF = about 40-45 cents/year... so it is sustainable - good

Growth = more or less flat = no good

Margin = ~15% ok lar

Not a high earning stock.. merely like FD stock...  whistling.gif
laugh.gif

You ask me to talk chart ma...
When talk chart cannot one hand talk chart other hand talk numbers one.
If do like this macam this becomes RC liao!

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QUOTE(gark @ Jun 27 2013, 02:03 PM)
Wah you expect it to fall back to the previous 3.20 ah?  laugh.gif

You know i don't see chart 1 right...

PE 10x .. - ok lar

Cash on hand about 70 cents/share - good

Dividend .. emm expect 20-25 cents = 5-5.5% - fair lah

ROE ~ 10%-15% - fair lah

FCF = about 40-45 cents/year... so it is sustainable - good

Growth = more or less flat = no good

Margin = ~15% ok lar

Not a high earning stock.. merely like FD stock...  whistling.gif
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Unker, how u calcualte FCF? Cash flows exclude dividends paid?
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QUOTE(Boon3 @ Jun 27 2013, 02:07 PM)

Solli ah Gark kor kor but ...
RC = Rojak Chai rite?

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QUOTE(V-Zero @ Jun 27 2013, 02:06 PM)
Whats with the Apollo party?
Ok I go queue some big lots at 4.01. laugh.gif

From the chart just draw a simple support line and you will see the support had been breached.
Might go down more.  whistling.gif
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laugh.gif

Q big lots at 4.01?
Beat a lot less ah?
Ah Gark kor wants to Q at 4 and you want to be samseng chai and potong jalan?

Wait.. I object... lines can be drawn many ways one.
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QUOTE(Pink Spider @ Jun 27 2013, 02:08 PM)
Unker, how u calcualte FCF? Cash flows exclude dividends paid?
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Alamak! doh.gif You are a dividend investor.. FCF is the first thing you need to master. bruce.gif

I also thought you akauntan must calculate this every day 1?

Actual FCF = EBIT(1-Tax Rate) + Depreciation & Amortization - Change in Net Working Capital - Capital Expenditure


Shortcut FCF = Net cash from operation - purchase of PPE

But my style i exclude changes in working capital as it distort the FCF too much... laugh.gif

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QUOTE(gark @ Jun 27 2013, 02:16 PM)
Alamak!  doh.gif  You are a dividend investor.. FCF is the first thing you need to master.  bruce.gif

I also thought you akauntan must calculate this every day 1?

FCF = Net cash from operation - purchase of PPE

But my style i exclude changes in working capital as it distort the FCF too much...  laugh.gif
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agreed, 1 year build up inventory/slowing sales = depleting cash
next year clear stock/reduce inventory = cash boost

I akauntan tak berlesen nia laugh.gif
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QUOTE(Pink Spider @ Jun 27 2013, 02:17 PM)
agreed, 1 year build up inventory/slowing sales = depleting cash
next year clear stock/reduce inventory = cash boost

I akauntan tak berlesen nia laugh.gif
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Accountant specializing in audit right? laugh.gif
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QUOTE(Icehart @ Jun 27 2013, 02:19 PM)
Accountant specializing in audit right?  laugh.gif
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QUOTE(Pink Spider @ Jun 27 2013, 02:20 PM)
Aiyo, I akauntan junior la. Auditors audit me, and I hate auditors esp those that think that they're super hot and deserve special treatment tongue.gif
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U sure see a lot of amoi, no wonder brain heavily corrupted laugh.gif
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QUOTE(davidcch07 @ Jun 27 2013, 03:04 PM)
5 - 6.5% tongue.gif
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Cool, thanks. icon_rolleyes.gif
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QUOTE(Pink Spider @ Jun 27 2013, 02:20 PM)
Aiyo, I akauntan junior la. Auditors audit me, and I hate auditors esp those that think that they're super hot and deserve special treatment tongue.gif
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Auditor amois better don't flirt.
I got one friend marry auditor..kena audit for life. CC bills, bank bills..all precise counting to few cents also taken into account.
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QUOTE(yhtan @ Jun 27 2013, 02:21 PM)
U sure see a lot of amoi, no wonder brain heavily corrupted laugh.gif
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I treat guy auditors and girl-next-door type of auditors good

And I show black face and give 1-liner answers to "hot" auditors. Call me weird laugh.gif
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QUOTE(Icehart @ Jun 27 2013, 02:23 PM)
Auditor amois better don't flirt.
I got one friend marry auditor..kena audit for life. CC bills, bank bills..all precise counting to few cents also taken into account.
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when i need to flirt i go pub icon_rolleyes.gif
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QUOTE(Icehart @ Jun 27 2013, 02:23 PM)
Auditor amois better don't flirt.
I got one friend marry auditor..kena audit for life. CC bills, bank bills..all precise counting to few cents also taken into account.
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his live must be very HARD !!!
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One thing about Apollo is the super kiamsiap management... doh.gif


In the Q report...

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The company has elected for the irrevocable option to disregard the section 108 balance


Like this also can.... laugh.gif

Rather lose tax credits than pay up lotsa dividends.
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QUOTE(Icehart @ Jun 27 2013, 02:23 PM)
Auditor amois better don't flirt.
I got one friend marry auditor..kena audit for life. CC bills, bank bills..all precise counting to few cents also taken into account.
laugh.gif
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Good check and balance mechanism laugh.gif

QUOTE(Pink Spider @ Jun 27 2013, 02:23 PM)
I treat guy auditors and girl-next-door type of auditors good

And I show black face and give 1-liner answers to "hot" auditors. Call me weird laugh.gif
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I thought u will show hamsup like this -> brows.gif brows.gif
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Mana all the big lots Q-ing at 4?
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QUOTE(gark @ Jun 27 2013, 02:25 PM)
One thing about Apollo is the super kiamsiap management... doh.gif
In the Q report...
Like this also can.... laugh.gif

Rather lose tax credits than pay up lotsa dividends.
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QUOTE(cwhong @ Jun 27 2013, 02:24 PM)
his live must be very HARD !!!
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Indeed. Every month salary withdrawn deposit to joint account. Then survive with RM 500 allowance per month given by wife.
But just bought a house recently, so I guess got balance of savings vs expenses. laugh.gif
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Good check and balance mechanism laugh.gif
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QUOTE(gark @ Jun 27 2013, 02:16 PM)
Alamak!  doh.gif  You are a dividend investor.. FCF is the first thing you need to master.  bruce.gif

I also thought you akauntan must calculate this every day 1?

Actual FCF = EBIT(1-Tax Rate) + Depreciation & Amortization - Change in Net Working Capital - Capital Expenditure
Shortcut FCF = Net cash from operation - purchase of PPE

But my style i exclude changes in working capital as it distort the FCF too much...  laugh.gif
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But if the growth in working capital is high , like stocks and debtors in stagnant sales ( Q to Q ) do suggest to " keeping a close watch " on this kind of consumer stocks......

Just my view only.....

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QUOTE(yhtan @ Jun 27 2013, 02:25 PM)
Good check and balance mechanism laugh.gif

I thought u will show hamsup like this -> brows.gif  brows.gif
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U see my profile pic, u see I got that kinda potential meh doh.gif
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My ex is auditor, but I more thorough on my finances than her hmm.gif

U see my profile pic, u see I got that kinda potential meh doh.gif
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U see my profile pic, u see I got that kinda potential meh doh.gif
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The picture in your profile is you?  hmm.gif
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Akauntan cannot makeup and dye hair and keep long hair? hmm.gif
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QUOTE(Icehart @ Jun 27 2013, 02:28 PM)
Indeed. Every month salary withdrawn deposit to joint account. Then survive with RM 500 allowance per month given by wife.
But just bought a house recently, so I guess got balance of savings vs expenses.  laugh.gif
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Like this his lifestyle quality getting better, still ok what thumbup.gif
RM500 allowance just for his lunch? this remind me of my dad's ex-GM earning 5 figure and no money in pocket to buy drinks laugh.gif

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QUOTE(Pink Spider @ Jun 27 2013, 02:31 PM)
My ex is auditor, but I more thorough on my finances than her hmm.gif

U see my profile pic, u see I got that kinda potential meh doh.gif
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My ex is auditor, but I more thorough on my finances than her hmm.gif

U see my profile pic, u see I got that kinda potential meh doh.gif
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Opt for single-tier dividend, benefit major shareholder the most, not good for ikan bilis sweat.gif
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Corporate tax 25%, personal 26%.
Can save 1% through single tier. tongue.gif

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Definitely got potential laugh.gif  brows.gif
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no i cant see clearly, pls remove the love from ur face!!!  whistling.gif
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Mamee did it ..before taken private.. sad.gif

CI holdings also did it.. before sold to the japs.. sad.gif
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I was the victim for these 2 counters sad.gif
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QUOTE(cherroy @ Jun 27 2013, 02:43 PM)
High income one surely single tier better.

Corporate tax 25%, personal 26%.
Can save 1% through single tier.  tongue.gif
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QUOTE(jasontoh @ Jun 27 2013, 02:51 PM)
I was the victim for these 2 counters sad.gif
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Still earned some profit isn't it? hmm.gif
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I tot CI punya dividend banyak kaw one  hmm.gif
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Just a quick question, our dividend consider as our income or no need to declare?
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High income one surely single tier better.

Corporate tax 25%, personal 26%.
Can save 1% through single tier.  tongue.gif
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yawn.gif I only know it benefit the government, once shot all 25%.................
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QUOTE(jasontoh @ Jun 27 2013, 02:55 PM)
After sell business, meaning I also not holding anymore lo. Cannot generate passive income for me anymore ma. That is why the "victim" word.

Just a quick question, our dividend consider as our income or no need to declare?
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single tier no need declare

S108 divvy u can choose not to declare if u lazy claim the rebate
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QUOTE(jasontoh @ Jun 27 2013, 02:55 PM)
After sell business, meaning I also not holding anymore lo. Cannot generate passive income for me anymore ma. That is why the "victim" word.

Just a quick question, our dividend consider as our income or no need to declare?
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hmm.gif if your income less than 100k a year, you still need declare to get back the tax deduct...........

if more than 100k, better hide it not to declare whistling.gif
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QUOTE(Pink Spider @ Jun 27 2013, 02:56 PM)
single tier no need declare

S108 divvy u can choose not to declare if u lazy claim the rebate
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QUOTE(jasontoh @ Jun 27 2013, 02:55 PM)
After sell business, meaning I also not holding anymore lo. Cannot generate passive income for me anymore ma. That is why the "victim" word.

Just a quick question, our dividend consider as our income or no need to declare?
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Section 108 dividend = Need to declare to claim/offset against your tax payable
Single-tier dividend = No need to declare

Please take note to keep all the supporting document of dividend income, just in case in future u need to buy property or car and receive a "Love Letter" from LHDN laugh.gif
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QUOTE(yhtan @ Jun 27 2013, 02:58 PM)
Section 108 dividend = Need to declare to claim/offset against your tax payable
Single-tier dividend = No need to declare

Please take note to keep all the supporting document of dividend income, just in case in future u need to buy property or car and receive a "Love Letter" from LHDN laugh.gif
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I've got the letter last 2 years, asking me to bring the receipt for few years. So, I just submit and get the stamping on the receipt as well as the BE form.
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QUOTE(jasontoh @ Jun 27 2013, 02:55 PM)
After sell business, meaning I also not holding anymore lo. Cannot generate passive income for me anymore ma. That is why the "victim" word.

Just a quick question, our dividend consider as our income or no need to declare?
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Actually. there is no law to say you do not need to declare your incomes just because u are not taxed more like Dividends .

But people do make their own judgements not to declare .......
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QUOTE(jasontoh @ Jun 27 2013, 03:00 PM)
I've got the letter last 2 years, asking me to bring the receipt for few years. So, I just submit and get the stamping on the receipt as well as the BE form.
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Letter to query your financing source of your property?


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Government also save a lot of money tongue.gif
Still earned some profit isn't it? hmm.gif
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There is a lot lot of money.

For eg.
If a company gives 10 million in total dividend pa. there is 100 company doing so, it means 1 billion of dividend.
out of 1 billion, if we assume 25% is given to minority shareholders that subjected to low tax bracket or don't need to pay tax one (especially retired person whereby no income already so even added dividend so under taxable bracket), means 250 million is given to minority shareholders.
250 x 25% = potential 62.5 million refund!

I believe KLSE listed company give more than 1 billion of dividend annually. I no count on this, correct me if I am wrong.

Somemore, a lot of company have plenty of tax credit around, so it is a big waste for those tax credit not being utilised, particular for those shareholders that have low tax bracket or under taxable bracket one, and particularly for retired person.

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QUOTE(yhtan @ Jun 27 2013, 03:02 PM)
Letter to query your financing source of your property?
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Letter ask me bring all the receipts only. Not sure is it because of property or not, but it was directly after I bought my first property.
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QUOTE(SKY 1809 @ Jun 27 2013, 03:01 PM)
Actually. there is no law to say you do not need to declare your incomes just because u  are not taxed more like Dividends .

But people do make their own judgements not to declare .......
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If I declare, means have to pay extra income tax already, right? hmm.gif
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QUOTE(yhtan @ Jun 27 2013, 02:58 PM)
Section 108 dividend = Need to declare to claim/offset against your tax payable
Single-tier dividend = No need to declare

Please take note to keep all the supporting document of dividend income, just in case in future u need to buy property or car and receive a "Love Letter" from LHDN laugh.gif
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Would we be able to claim back the portion due to us from LHDN if we are below the 25% tax bracket of the single-tier system?
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Aduh Biosis.. Who in who die..
I only see because I know sure die one
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You got 1 buddy. Aneh neh got biosis 3 kupang leh. sad.gif
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QUOTE(cherroy @ Jun 27 2013, 03:03 PM)
There is a lot lot of money.

For eg.
If a company gives 10 million in total dividend pa. there is 100 company doing so, it means 1 billion of dividend.
out of 1 billion, if we assume 25% is given to minority shareholders that subjected to low tax bracket or don't need to pay tax one (especially retired person whereby no income already so even added dividend so under taxable bracket), means 250 million is given to minority shareholders.
250 x 25% = potential 62.5 million refund!

I believe KLSE listed company give more than 1 billion of dividend annually. I no count on this, correct me if I am wrong.

Somemore, a lot of company have plenty of tax credit around, so it is a big waste for those tax credit not being utilised, particular for those shareholders that have low tax bracket or under taxable bracket one, and particularly for retired person.
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Government saved up RM1bil overall, if not mistaken

QUOTE(jasontoh @ Jun 27 2013, 03:03 PM)
Letter ask me bring all the receipts only. Not sure is it because of property or not, but it was directly after I bought my first property.
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Definitely relate to property, they already got your tax paid record in their system
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QUOTE(Pan84 @ Jun 27 2013, 03:05 PM)
You got 1 buddy. Aneh neh got biosis 3 kupang leh.  sad.gif
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Aihz.. Dunno wad to say. Profit no sell.. No profit want cry
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QUOTE(jasontoh @ Jun 27 2013, 03:00 PM)
I've got the letter last 2 years, asking me to bring the receipt for few years. So, I just submit and get the stamping on the receipt as well as the BE form.
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Ya, Income Tax Law does have a deeming provision to say the properties u own come from Taxable Income Sources, unless you prove otherwise.

The duty to prove is on u, not the income tax dept.
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Aduh Biosis.. Who in who die..
I only see because I know sure die one
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i tot max said enter from 0.14-0.155 safe? biggrin.gif maybe max and drc same person kut biggrin.gif
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i tot max said enter from 0.14-0.155 safe?  biggrin.gif maybe max and drc same person kut  biggrin.gif
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Aihz.. Dunno wad to say. Profit no sell.. No profit want cry
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I call him no answer, sms him no answer. asking his remisier to see whether he got holding or not. Remisier also went missing. blink.gif doh.gif
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Aduh Biosis.. Who in who die..
I only see because I know sure die one
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Do you think this BIOSIS will go down then shoot up again like MAEMODE did the other day?

Also, MAEMODE has gone down again now but seems there is a large buy queue. Is that an indication that it will start going up again like that day?

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QUOTE(Bonescythe @ Jun 27 2013, 03:06 PM)
Aihz.. Dunno wad to say. Profit no sell.. No profit want cry
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I call him no answer, sms him no answer. asking his remisier to see whether he got holding or not. Remisier also went missing. blink.gif doh.gif
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If I declare, means have to pay extra income tax already, right?  hmm.gif
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No , it is just a form of notification...

No incomes declared would be " double" tax in law.

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QUOTE(yhtan @ Jun 27 2013, 03:05 PM)
Government saved up RM1bil overall, if not mistaken
Definitely relate to property, they already got your tax paid record in their system
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Anyway, I never "lari" before. Never fake the claims, so, no issue on my part. At least I still can claim the house interest relieve in income tax. I know there are many who was fined because of this "relieve"
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QUOTE(Bonescythe @ Jun 27 2013, 04:07 PM)
I think he refers to Luster la for that price?
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https://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?showtopi...post&p=61343412
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QUOTE(SKY 1809 @ Jun 27 2013, 03:08 PM)
No , it is just  a form of notification...

No incomes declared would be " double"  tax in law.
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QUOTE(yenforyen @ Jun 27 2013, 03:04 PM)
Would we be able to claim back the portion due to us from LHDN if we are below the 25% tax bracket of the single-tier system?
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Single-tier definitely cannot claim back

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Last month just received letter from IRB... ask me to pay next year's income tax in 12 month installment... they call it scheduled tax, based what they estimate i need to pay in 2014. The letter include like 12 cut off 'form' to submit payment every month

Like this also can. Not yet receive income ask to pay tax first. ... vmad.gif vmad.gif mad.gif mad.gif

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QUOTE(gark @ Jun 27 2013, 03:12 PM)
Last month just received letter from IRB... ask me to pay next year's income tax in 12 month installment...  they call it scheduled tax, based what they estimate i need to pay in 2014.

Like this also can. Not yet receive income ask to pay tax first. ... vmad.gif  vmad.gif  mad.gif  mad.gif
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Business income? hmm.gif
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QUOTE(gark @ Jun 27 2013, 03:12 PM)
Last month just received letter from IRB... ask me to pay next year's income tax in 12 month installment...  they call it scheduled tax, based what they estimate i need to pay in 2014.

Like this also can. Not yet receive income ask to pay tax first. ... vmad.gif  vmad.gif  mad.gif  mad.gif
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I've been paying in advance since I grad. I think it is standard process and I found it is a good way to do so, to prevent people from feeling heartache when want to part with the money during income tax time.
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QUOTE(gark @ Jun 27 2013, 03:12 PM)
Last month just received letter from IRB... ask me to pay next year's income tax in 12 month installment...  they call it scheduled tax, based what they estimate i need to pay in 2014.

Like this also can. Not yet receive income ask to pay tax first. ... vmad.gif  vmad.gif  mad.gif  mad.gif
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Just to remind, u need to pay penalty if u wrongly estimated yr business incomes by a certain margin....
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QUOTE(yhtan @ Jun 27 2013, 03:14 PM)
Business income? hmm.gif
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Personal income tax... but not from working income, from dividend, rental etc etc...
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QUOTE(SKY 1809 @ Jun 27 2013, 03:16 PM)
Just to remind, u need to pay penalty if u wrongly estimated yr business incomes by a certain margin....
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They already estimate for me... each of the 12 form got the amount written into it... doh.gif Payment must be made before 10th every month. rclxub.gif
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QUOTE(gark @ Jun 27 2013, 03:16 PM)
Personal income tax... but not from working income, from dividend, rental etc etc...
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Buy reits lah, do not need to pay income tax laugh.gif

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Buy reits lah, do not to pay income tax  laugh.gif
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I think he refers to Luster la for that price?
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max say drc already abandon luster, now aim biosis    laugh.gif
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QUOTE(gark @ Jun 27 2013, 03:17 PM)
They already estimate for me... each of the 12 form got the amount written into it... doh.gif Payment must be made before 10th every month.  rclxub.gif
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For business incomes, u need to correct income tax if they make a wrong estimation on second year ..........if not penalty

Correct me if I am wrong.......
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I've been paying in advance since I grad. I think it is standard process and I found it is a good way to do so, to prevent people from feeling heartache when want to part with the money during income tax time.
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Ask me to submit payment every month so susah... so in the end i paid up all 12 months 2013 tax in 1 go. laugh.gif
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QUOTE(jacckl @ Jun 27 2013, 03:20 PM)
max say drc already abandon luster, now aim biosis     laugh.gif
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biosis is a PN17 co, and RC is not a major shareholder yet ,

How do you know it is not a " failed deal " as usual......... hmm.gif

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i think max's meaning is drc already finish shorting luster...next is to short biosis  biggrin.gif
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For business incomes, u need to correct income tax if they make a wrong estimation on second year ..........if not penalty

Correct me if I am wrong.......
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Ya kah.. have to check with IRB.... but mine is personal income tax leh... rclxub.gif
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QUOTE(gark @ Jun 27 2013, 03:25 PM)
Ya kah.. have to check with IRB.... but mine is personal income tax leh... rclxub.gif
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bro dun scare me, i baru enter goreng  sweat.gif
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QUOTE(jasontoh @ Jun 27 2013, 03:15 PM)
I've been paying in advance since I grad. I think it is standard process and I found it is a good way to do so, to prevent people from feeling heartache when want to part with the money during income tax time.
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This is their intention after a lot of taxpayer unable to fork out huge sum.

Able to claim faster also benefit government laugh.gif

QUOTE(gark @ Jun 27 2013, 03:16 PM)
Personal income tax... but not from working income, from dividend, rental etc etc...
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I thought personal income subject to PCB hmm.gif

Or maybe your personal income from foreign country hmm.gif

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QUOTE(yhtan @ Jun 27 2013, 03:27 PM)
This is their intention after a lot of taxpayer unable to fork out huge sum.

Able to claim faster also benefit government laugh.gif
I thought personal income subject to PCB hmm.gif

Or maybe your personal income from foreign country hmm.gif
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My income declared is not from employment, which every month same one. Mine fluctuate up and down depend on rental, dividend and other incomes...usually lump sum laugh.gif

I declaring as foreigner status, cause I am not tax resident of Malaysia. Everything flat 26%, no deductions...

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QUOTE(gark @ Jun 27 2013, 03:25 PM)
Ya kah.. have to check with IRB.... but mine is personal income tax leh... rclxub.gif
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Mainly applying to business profit, and I wonder how people can estimate Dividends correctly.

That is why many choose not to declare , right hmm.gif
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QUOTE(gark @ Jun 27 2013, 03:28 PM)
My income declared is not from employment, which every month same one. Mine fluctuate up and down depend on rental, dividend and other incomes...usually lump sum laugh.gif

I declaring as foreigner status, cause I am not tax resident of Malaysia. Everything flat 26%, no deductions...
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Double taxation, this one i'm not really sure rclxub.gif
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QUOTE(gark @ Jun 27 2013, 03:30 PM)
What did you buy?  hmm.gif
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Must be biosis or luster lo
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QUOTE(MarketingDude @ Jun 27 2013, 03:24 PM)
bro dun scare me, i baru enter goreng  sweat.gif
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Max did say that.

But I remember he told u all to re enter Luster at 17 to 18sen earlier........

No question asked hmm.gif
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QUOTE(SKY 1809 @ Jun 27 2013, 04:34 PM)
Max did say that.

But I remember he told u all to re enter Luster at 17 to 18sen earlier........

No question asked  hmm.gif
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he said TP 0.25 also hmm.gif
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he said TP 0.25 also  hmm.gif
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QUOTE(ngaisteve1 @ Jun 27 2013, 03:21 PM)
i think max's meaning is drc already finish shorting luster...next is to short biosis  biggrin.gif
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Somehow that's more accurate Lol!

Luster kena burnt adi not gonna go biosis unless see some upside...
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QUOTE(SKY 1809 @ Jun 27 2013, 03:34 PM)
Max did say that.

But I remember he told u all to re enter Luster at 17 to 18sen earlier........

No question asked  hmm.gif
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i only believe his enter price, target price i got my own target price, i earn a dinner then i cabut icon_idea.gif
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QUOTE(vccy118 @ Jun 27 2013, 03:37 PM)
Somehow that's more accurate Lol!

Luster kena burnt adi not gonna go biosis unless see some upside...
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QUOTE(vccy118 @ Jun 27 2013, 03:37 PM)
Somehow that's more accurate Lol!

Luster kena burnt adi not gonna go biosis unless see some upside...
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When u see upside then go in become ikan bakar again lo..
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QUOTE(ngaisteve1 @ Jun 27 2013, 03:36 PM)
he said TP 0.25 also  hmm.gif
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IN between , he quoted some " failed deals " in Luster ...

Parties in disputes............as the reason

Why forumers do not listen, listen and listen hmm.gif

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QUOTE(jasontoh @ Jun 27 2013, 04:37 PM)
What is the price now?
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QUOTE(gark @ Jun 27 2013, 03:28 PM)
My income declared is not from employment, which every month same one. Mine fluctuate up and down depend on rental, dividend and other incomes...usually lump sum laugh.gif

I declaring as foreigner status, cause I am not tax resident of Malaysia. Everything flat 26%, no deductions...
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It counts on the days while u are in Malaysia , and not what u intend to be a " foreigner " .

So u need to plan yr arrivals in Malaysia........if beneficial to u

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QUOTE(SKY 1809 @ Jun 27 2013, 03:46 PM)
It counts on the days while u are in Malaysia , and not  what u intend to be a "  foreigner " .

So u need to plan yr arrivals in Malaysia........if beneficial to u
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Less than 60 days in MY per year... yeah I am classified as non-tax resident.. tongue.gif

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QUOTE(davidcch07 @ Jun 27 2013, 04:45 PM)
Buy 5436 la.. wait later dividend news lo tongue.gif
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u bot at what price? macam no vol le
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What did you buy?  hmm.gif
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QUOTE(Madbull @ Jun 27 2013, 03:33 PM)
Must be biosis or luster lo
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QUOTE(SKY 1809 @ Jun 27 2013, 03:38 PM)
IN between , he quoted some  " failed deals " in Luster ...

Parties in disputes............as the reason

Why forumers do not listen, listen and listen  hmm.gif
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I got listen sweat.gif but that time when he wrote that i already become ikan bakar. So now I don't know whether to sell or to hang on. unsure.gif
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QUOTE(gark @ Jun 27 2013, 03:49 PM)
Less than 60 days in MY per year... yeah I am classified as non-tax resident.. tongue.gif
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Capital Gain is not tax ma, not the end of the world for u yet laugh.gif

So plan again icon_rolleyes.gif

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QUOTE(shootingstars83 @ Jun 27 2013, 03:50 PM)
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I got listen  sweat.gif  but that time when he wrote that i already become ikan bakar. So now I don't know whether to sell or to hang on.  unsure.gif
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Same here... my initial entry price 0.155... buy small... then end up average up my average price become 0.18... still under 0.2 so I thought safe... now mati!!!!
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QUOTE(ngaisteve1 @ Jun 27 2013, 04:49 PM)
u bot at what price? macam no vol le
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low volume better than luster wor... high volume but in red... i one batang guy lo... support at 3.64- 3.65 blush.gif
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Axiata, SingTel , Telenor to know Myanmar telecoms bid on Thursday

Myanmar, which is offering operating licenses to global telecoms firms for the first time, will announce the outcome of the auction as planned on Thursday despite opposition in parliament.

Myanmar is one of the world's last telecoms frontiers, with only 9 percent of its 60 million people at most having mobile phones. But faced with big investments and uncertain returns, some bidders have dropped out of the auction.

Vodafone Group Plc and China Mobile Ltd have abandoned their joint bid, saying it did not meet their "internal investment criteria."

The remaining short-listed contenders, some of whom have local or foreign partners, are: Singapore Telecommunications, KDDI Corp, Telenor, Digicel, Axiata, Bharti Airtel, MTN, Vietnam's Viettel, Qtel (Ooredoo), Orange and Millicom International Cellular.
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QUOTE(davinz18 @ Jun 27 2013, 03:58 PM)
Axiata, SingTel , Telenor to know Myanmar telecoms bid on Thursday

Myanmar, which is offering operating licenses to global telecoms firms for the first time, will announce the outcome of the auction as planned on Thursday despite opposition in parliament.

Myanmar is one of the world's last telecoms frontiers, with only 9 percent of its 60 million people at most having mobile phones. But faced with big investments and uncertain returns, some bidders have dropped out of the auction.

Vodafone Group Plc and China Mobile Ltd have abandoned their joint bid, saying it did not meet their "internal investment criteria."

The remaining short-listed contenders, some of whom have local or foreign partners, are: Singapore Telecommunications, KDDI Corp, Telenor, Digicel, Axiata, Bharti Airtel, MTN, Vietnam's Viettel, Qtel (Ooredoo), Orange and Millicom International Cellular.
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Judge by Axiata share price, unlikely they going to win the bid laugh.gif
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QUOTE(yhtan @ Jun 27 2013, 04:01 PM)
Judge by Axiata share price, unlikely they going to win the bid laugh.gif
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Anything can happen. It's all depend on the how much "under-table payment" made biggrin.gif
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Judge by Axiata share price, unlikely they going to win the bid laugh.gif
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Rumor says.. George Soros' telecomm company might win...
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QUOTE(vccy118 @ Jun 27 2013, 03:53 PM)
Same here... my initial entry price 0.155... buy small... then end up average up my average price become 0.18... still under 0.2 so I thought safe... now mati!!!!
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Rumor says.. George Soros' telecomm company might win...
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Not YTL COMM hmm.gif

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