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 Oil & Gas Careers v5, Upstream and Downstream

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BillySteel
post Mar 11 2014, 11:00 PM

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QUOTE(skypeace @ Mar 11 2014, 09:27 PM)
haha... u mean the problem is the people inside? internal politic issue?
R u working there now?
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I use to work on that project.

Politics is a problem everywhere.

what i meant has nothing to do with politics.
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post Mar 11 2014, 11:45 PM

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Hi seniors, may i know Oil and Gas industry for civil engineers are mainly based on the structural engineer and geotechnical engineer. Any else job scope or job position that suitable for civil engineers have i missed?
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post Mar 12 2014, 12:18 AM

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QUOTE(BillySteel @ Mar 11 2014, 11:00 PM)
I use to work on that project.

Politics is a problem everywhere.

what i meant has nothing to do with politics.
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May i know wat u mean then? U may pm me if its not good to tell here.
Any advice for a new comer to work there?
thanks.
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post Mar 12 2014, 01:39 PM

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Hi..Just want to ask a question.
How IT graduate like me can apply job in oil and gas industry?
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post Mar 12 2014, 07:31 PM

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QUOTE(denon91 @ Mar 11 2014, 11:45 PM)
Hi seniors, may i know Oil and Gas industry for civil engineers are mainly based on the structural engineer and geotechnical engineer. Any else job scope or job position that suitable for civil engineers have i missed?
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subsea pipeline engineer, planning engineer, project engineer, QA engineer, cost engineer, contract engineer, procurement engineer, proposal engineer, etc……… and tea lady also can.

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BillySteel
post Mar 12 2014, 09:46 PM

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QUOTE(skypeace @ Mar 12 2014, 01:18 AM)
May i know wat u mean then? U may pm me if its not good to tell here.
Any advice for a new comer to work there?
thanks.
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Firstly remember the bestwide guy's post in this thread....regarding the cons....Everyone of it is true.

Secondly if you are in Wheatstone project you will be doing it until the second train sails away, contractually you cant be part of two project at the same time hence if you're in the construction team you are stuck in this project for a very long time.....but if you're in engineering I think you will leave the project earlier once engineering support is done.

Remember as a fresh grad never reveal any info to your client without written approval from your direct boss. Better yet just ask the client straight go see your boss......this project dont pandai pandai it might come back to bite you.

+ Prepare for headache in getting information or anything done (more than normal)-----well this is typical kencana anyway.

+ Procedures are most of the time for show case (well unless something happens then everyone refers to it whistling.gif )

Most of this is public knowledge anyway.

By the way wheatstone ISBL is 45 modules as the tendering doc goes....kencana has subbed half of the modules to a chinese company. Kencana is doing all the big ones....you can see just across the project office.

But if you ask me if the experience is worth it or not......that depends on what position you are offered as the experience alone covers all the cons.

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post Mar 12 2014, 10:06 PM

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QUOTE(BillySteel @ Mar 12 2014, 09:46 PM)
Firstly remember the bestwide guy's post in this thread....regarding the cons....Everyone of it is true.

Secondly if you are in Wheatstone project you will be doing it until the second train sails away, contractually you cant be part of two project at the same time hence if you're in the construction team you are stuck in this project for a very long time.....but if you're in engineering I think you will leave the project earlier once engineering support is done.

Remember as a fresh grad never reveal any info to your client without written approval from your direct boss. Better yet just ask the client straight go see your boss......this project dont pandai pandai it might come back to bite you.

+ Prepare for headache in getting information or anything done (more than normal)-----well this is typical kencana anyway.

+ Procedures are most of the time for show case (well unless something happens then everyone refers to it whistling.gif )

Most of this is public knowledge anyway.

By the way wheatstone ISBL is 45 modules as the tendering doc goes....kencana has subbed half of the modules to a chinese company. Kencana is doing all the big ones....you can see just across the project office.

But if you ask me if the experience is worth it or not......that depends on what position you are offered as the experience alone covers all the cons.
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wow... thanks for your advice... it helps me to get mentally prepared.
Ya. I will involve in the wheatstone project as stated in my agreement.

But I have learnt that Kencana is a good place as stepping stone for fresh grads in O&G industry. Is it wrong?
Btw, my hometown is in selangor. my plan is to gain my working experience from there for 3-5years and returned to selangor. Hopefully I am able to survive for these period.

My future supervisor who interviewed me, did ask my ability in mandarin speaking, reading and writing as i will deal with client from china kinda thing.
And he asked my ability to work under critical working environment, as my job would be mostly outdoor and on certain height location. seems tough...

This post has been edited by skypeace: Mar 12 2014, 10:12 PM
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post Mar 13 2014, 01:19 PM

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Hi guys, anyone of you applied for Murphy Oil graduate program ? May I know how you go about it ?
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post Mar 13 2014, 03:20 PM

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QUOTE(skypeace @ Mar 12 2014, 11:06 PM)
wow... thanks for your advice... it helps me to get mentally prepared.
Ya. I will involve in the wheatstone project as stated in my agreement.

But I have learnt that Kencana is a good place as stepping stone for fresh grads in O&G industry. Is it wrong?
Btw, my hometown is in selangor. my plan is to gain my working experience from there for 3-5years and returned to selangor. Hopefully I am able to survive for these period.

My future supervisor who interviewed me, did ask my ability in mandarin speaking, reading and writing as i will deal with client from china kinda thing.
And he asked my ability to work under critical working environment, as my job would be mostly outdoor and on certain height location. seems tough...
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In general Kencana is a very good stepping stone....well depends on what position you're in.

The rest I will PM you info.


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post Mar 13 2014, 04:40 PM

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by Kencana do you guys mean Bestwide?
There is like KHL, KPW..
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post Mar 14 2014, 10:11 AM

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QUOTE(echobrainproject @ Mar 13 2014, 05:40 PM)
by Kencana do you guys mean Bestwide?
There is like KHL, KPW..
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Kencana: Bestwide (engineering arm) , Pinewell (offshore HUC arm) and, KHL or Kenc.Marine (fab yard)

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QUOTE(BillySteel @ Mar 14 2014, 10:11 AM)
Kencana: Bestwide (engineering arm) , Pinewell (offshore HUC arm) and, KHL or Kenc.Marine (fab yard)
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so you all complaining Kencana overall?
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post Mar 14 2014, 12:11 PM

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QUOTE(spty @ Mar 11 2014, 06:43 PM)
Cheers~~ same situation but different subsidiary(based in Lumut) cry.gif
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Can we hug together and cry? life go on anyway.
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QUOTE(echobrainproject @ Mar 14 2014, 12:48 PM)
so you all complaining Kencana overall?
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Yup, same problem across the entire Kencana from what I heard(getting worse by the year as the older ones say). Sapura side is fairing better though. So I guess the merger didn't do much but bought directorial changes only.
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Hey guys if I study petroleum engineering at utm will I have greater chances to go into ong field?

Which position in oil rig is the best? In terms of salary vs work load
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post Mar 14 2014, 05:13 PM

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QUOTE(bloodchow2 @ Mar 14 2014, 04:42 PM)
Hey guys if I study petroleum engineering at utm will I have greater chances to go into ong field?

Which position in oil rig is the best? In terms of salary vs work load
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As pioneer in petroleum engineering, i guess you will have a better chances but depend on your grades, attitude etc. There will be a lot career fairs in utm every year, some companies do it exclusively for petroleum eng students either for the fresh grads position or for the scholarship program. UTM students also actively involve in the SPE programs.

From my observation;
Companyman- drilling supervisor ( the more experiences you have, higher dayrate.)
Wireline eng ( good job completion bonus)
Fishing supervisor ( usd600 per day once break up, that is what my friends get now)
Subsea engineer - taking care of subsea BOP ( high demand, good pay and subsea premium rentention bonus)



WildChai
post Mar 16 2014, 12:43 AM

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Anyone from the service side jump over to the client?
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post Mar 16 2014, 01:49 AM

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QUOTE(bloodchow2 @ Mar 14 2014, 04:42 PM)
Hey guys if I study petroleum engineering at utm will I have greater chances to go into ong field?

Which position in oil rig is the best? In terms of salary vs work load
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As Stamp mentioned, as a fresh grad, your grades will be the most important criteria in getting an interview. After that it will depend on how you handle the interview. A petroleum engineering grad is of course in high demand in the ong industry by both client and service companies. BUT, what are your chances of actually working AS a petroleum engineer?

Please be aware that the number of petroleum engineer positions are limited in Malaysia, and will only get scarcer as foreign clients leave and number of students taking PE and no. of universities offering PE increases. You can count with your hand how many clients/operators are in Malaysia; each of them hire no more than a handful of petroleum engineering fresh grads each year to work as petroleum engineers (with the exception of perhaps Petronas). And when spots are limited, they only take the best.
Note: many of these fresh grads were interns previously, so try your best to land an internship with a client.

Of course, if you don't mind not working as a petroleum engineer, and assuming OK grades, you will find a wealth of opportunities in other companies that may only utilize a specific subset of what you studied during your course, such as mudlogger, PVT engineer, MWD engineer etc.

tl;dr Yes you will have greater chances (but compared to what? an accountant? see last paragraph below) to go into ong field with a PE degree. If you want to specifically work AS a petroleum engineer, get excellent grades so clients will want to grab you.

xtra - slippery slope: if you don't feel confident of obtaining excellent grades, my advice is to re-evaluate your interest in petroleum engineering. My personal experience is that a 3.0 mechanical engineering fresh grad will find it easier to find an entry level ong job compared to a 3.0 petroleum engineering fresh grad, just because there are a lot more service companies out there than clients.

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QUOTE(Logitech1026 @ Mar 4 2014, 10:49 PM)
Hi guys, I am an ex-employee of SapuraKencana Bestwide (3 years of service). I am writing this to inform everyone who wants to join about pros and cons. Most of my friends currently inside is dying to get out, they have to serve 3 months notice period or pay it off (trap)  mad.gif

As the name suggest, this is a subsidiary of SapuraKencana Petroleum Bhd. This subsidiary oversees the engineering and project management of Kencana EPC team.

The Pros :

1. Lots of projects (CPP and Riser Platforms) & project tender
2. Office in Publika  drool.gif  rclxm9.gif  icon_idea.gif

The Cons :

1. Below market salary for local engineers
2. Bad management system
3. No reward for performing staff
4. Very high turnover rate
5. Office politics (Inter-department and Intra-department)
6. Not as well established as other consultancy
7. Lip service to retain staff
8. No career prospect
For anyone who is thinking of joining this company, please consider twice. Oil and Gas is not everything unless the pay is good / career prospect is there.

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Quite true.
Small tip here.last year khl paid less than 1 month bonus.




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QUOTE(yogurtguy @ Mar 16 2014, 09:19 PM)
Quite true.
Small tip here.last year khl paid less than 1 month bonus.
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oil n gas with less than 1 month bonus?
i am confuse y still lots ppl eager to enter oil n gas....

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