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post Jun 13 2013, 09:51 AM, updated 13y ago

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Gareth Bale [ 46 ]
Robin Van Persie [ 91 ]
Luis Suarez [ 96 ]

Very close fight between Suarez and Van Persie. I can conclude that, many MU fans were here. biggrin.gif

If you are MU and you are open for healthy football discussion, then welcome.
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post Jun 13 2013, 10:09 AM

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Mr- Aspas will be Suarez replacement or Suarez companion
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post Jun 13 2013, 10:18 AM

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QUOTE(solstice818 @ Jun 13 2013, 12:07 AM)
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England U21 coach Stuart Pearce excused Liverpool defender Andre Wisdom from his wrath after their dismal 1-0 defeat to Euros hosts Israel.

England leave tournament with three straight losses.

"I don't think so," Pearce said when asked about that. "I think we've got players here who have not performed.

"Barring Andre Wisdom, I would say, and his performance tonight - that's why he was made captain and I think he should be captain for the next two years. I think he led by example. I think players didn't bring their form here."


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Ouch! That's an indirect slap into the face for Jordan Henderson. sweat.gif

Personally I do think the England media over-hype their players.

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[quote=Yluxion,Jun 13 2013, 10:18 AM]
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Ouch! That's an indirect slap into the face for Jordan Henderson. sweat.gif

Personally I do think the England media over-hype their players.
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Frankly, Jordan is not a versatile player yet and dont have that extras needed to carry the team forward. He's doing well in Liverpool because the current team's style of play fitting into him and they are finding him when he makes the run ahead.

It ain't the same in England. When it comes to England, even the great Gerrard sometimes suffer.

I am surprised Pearce keep choosing our players to be captain. And now these boys are associated with carrying the team to a back to back 3 straight defeats. biggrin.gif

Losing morale in the process.
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[quote=Yluxion,Jun 13 2013, 10:18 AM]
Ouch! That's an indirect slap into the face for Jordan Henderson. sweat.gif

Personally I do think the England media over-hype their players.
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as always lor, every time they consider themselves as fav for WC & EC while all the big/small guns keep on laughing & wish to be group with them whistling.gif


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Think Henderson is very good CM but wont be a Stevie-like CM, much like Jack of all trades but master of none

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This guy got great position awareness, especially this game.

If we did land him, expect Henderson, Allen & Shelvey to be pushed down the pecking order.
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post Jun 13 2013, 03:22 PM

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Why there is no news about we are getting another DM & LB?

Christian,
Did u have any news if we are about to getting those?
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post Jun 13 2013, 04:19 PM

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I think Ilori is LB. I also agree that DM is also the position need cover.

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That I know, Ilori is a 6'3" centreback. Would rather not have another centreback masquerading as a leftback e.g. Agger. The current alternatives to Enrique are Downing, Johnson and Robinson. Johnson played there for a fair number of games last season. The benefit of having right footed players on the left is they can more comfortably mark wingers who like to come inside.
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post Jun 13 2013, 04:53 PM

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All those English player suck la...be gone..the media always over-rate them leading us to believe that they are above them all. I, too was often sucked into the hype. NO MORE. They all suck!!
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I'm a little worried, we've been buying and buying and buying. Will the club play as a team?
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QUOTE(chenwfng @ Jun 13 2013, 06:03 PM)
I'm a little worried, we've been buying and buying and buying. Will the club play as a team?
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as far as i know we've only signed toure for free. haha
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QUOTE(bearbear @ Jun 13 2013, 09:14 PM)
as far as i know we've only signed toure for free. haha
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Liverpool have tonight agreed a deal in principle with Celta Vigo for striker Iago Aspas, subject to documentation being completed.

Aspas scored 12 goals in 34 games in 2012-13 despite playing in a side threatened with relegation until the final day of the season.

During the campaign he was directly involved in 51 per cent of his team's goals.

The 25-year-old broke into the senior side at the Spanish outfit in 2009 after graduating from their youth set-up.

Aspas can play through the middle or out wide and he could become Brendan Rodgers's second signing of the summer transfer window following a deal for Kolo Toure.

http://www.liverpoolfc.com/news/latest-new...al-in-principle
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if this guy can form like he did at celta vigo, we have another goal machine. but defend style in la liga totally different with BPL. BPL more robust.
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QUOTE(Duke Red @ Jun 13 2013, 04:50 PM)
That I know, Ilori is a 6'3" centreback. Would rather not have another centreback masquerading as a leftback e.g. Agger. The current alternatives to Enrique are Downing, Johnson and Robinson. Johnson played there for a fair number of games last season. The benefit of having right footed players on the left is they can more comfortably mark wingers who like to come inside.
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Sorry. Got confused with our another target, Lucas Digne.
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QUOTE(Max_07s @ Jun 14 2013, 07:59 AM)
if this guy can form like he did at celta vigo, we have another goal machine. but defend style in la liga totally different with BPL. BPL more robust.
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michu has no problem scoring with a lower quality players than us


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QUOTE(chenwfng @ Jun 13 2013, 06:03 PM)
I'm a little worried, we've been buying and buying and buying. Will the club play as a team?
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There are 2 objectives that need to be met here :-

1) Bolstering the squad - BR himself has come out to say that we had a paper thin squad last season. Whilst the likes of Shelvey, Henderson, Sterling, Assaidi, Yesil, Suso and Wisdom are promising players, they are hardly game changers. Not all the players we sign will walk straight into the first team, thus fans need to manage expectations and note that some may merely be squad players. I don't for example see Toure or Aspas starting every game.

2) Buying the right players - Mentioned before how the centrebacks we're targetting all have pace, unlike Carra who has retired and Skrtel, who is linked to a move away from the club. Toure may not be as quick as he used to be but without an organiser at the back, his experience could prove vital. Similarly, our forward line will consist of players who are adept to play not just in the middle, but further out wide as well. This is to accommodate a 3 pronged strikeforce. All are so far mobile and they will be required to track back to help defend. This is why Carroll is being ostracised. His lack of mobility is seemingly unsuitable for our style of play.

I'm more worried about foreign players settling in rather than whether or not they will be able to cope with the way we want to play, provided the criteria above are met.
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QUOTE(leftist @ Jun 14 2013, 10:29 AM)
michu has no problem scoring with a lower quality players than us
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have to see for 2nd season to judge...most are 1 season wonder whistling.gif
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Dillion,

Out of curiosity why do you refer to Aspas as "The Little Suarez" in the thread title? Bloke's only 0.05 metres shorter.
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Dillon, Is he even comparable to Suarez?
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QUOTE(Duke Red @ Jun 14 2013, 12:03 PM)
Dillion,

Out of curiosity why do you refer to Aspas as "The Little Suarez" in the thread title? Bloke's only 0.05 metres shorter.
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QUOTE(lerijiso @ Jun 14 2013, 12:04 PM)
Dillon, Is he even comparable to Suarez?
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Comparable attitude & behaviour wise.. both hotheaded & can-lose-it-on-field type of players tongue.gif
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Yeah why call him Little Suarez, the kop are calling him the 'Spanish Bellamy'.
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QUOTE(vreis @ Jun 14 2013, 12:07 PM)
Comparable attitude & behaviour wise.. both hotheaded & can-lose-it-on-field type of players tongue.gif
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Ahh I see. Does he bite too? lol.
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QUOTE(lerijiso @ Jun 14 2013, 12:11 PM)
Ahh I see. Does he bite too? lol.
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nom nom nom....hey stop it!!later suarez say u r driving him out of Liverpool tongue.gif
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QUOTE(Duke Red @ Jun 14 2013, 12:03 PM)
Dillion,

Out of curiosity why do you refer to Aspas as "The Little Suarez" in the thread title? Bloke's only 0.05 metres shorter.
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QUOTE(lerijiso @ Jun 14 2013, 12:04 PM)
Dillon, Is he even comparable to Suarez?
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They both share the same hunger for the game and both are violent-filled hot-headed nutcase. biggrin.gif

Like Suarez, Aspas's work rate was said to be amazing (At least according to DailyMail).
He also loses it like Suarez. I can totally understand them. When I work hard for something and I dont get what I want, I loses it as well. biggrin.gif

Unfortunately for me, I got no one to bite on. tongue.gif
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QUOTE(dillonyong @ Jun 14 2013, 01:16 PM)
Unfortunately for me, I got no one to bite on. tongue.gif
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QUOTE(Everdying @ Jun 14 2013, 01:18 PM)
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QUOTE(dillonyong @ Jun 14 2013, 01:18 PM)
In SG, you bite someone, you go to jail. tongue.gif
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QUOTE(Everdying @ Jun 14 2013, 01:21 PM)
unless its consensual  whistling.gif
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QUOTE(n0v4m4r1n3 @ Jun 14 2013, 12:11 PM)
Yeah why call him Little Suarez, the kop are calling him the 'Spanish Bellamy'.
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Bellamy uses weapons, this one unarmed but dangerous somemore like to use head so mah Suarez mkII lor biggrin.gif

QUOTE(lerijiso @ Jun 14 2013, 12:11 PM)
Ahh I see. Does he bite too? lol.
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QUOTE(dillonyong @ Jun 14 2013, 01:21 PM)
Or contractual biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(lerijiso @ Jun 14 2013, 12:11 PM)
Ahh I see. Does he bite too? lol.
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He headbutted like Zidane tongue.gif
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QUOTE(leftist @ Jun 14 2013, 10:29 AM)
michu has no problem scoring with a lower quality players than us
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There are a lot of comments from those watching Spanish league that says when Michu played in the same team with Aspas, aspas was the better player.
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QUOTE(leftist @ Jun 14 2013, 10:29 AM)
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Are you sure?

Allen from Swansea cost 1x million
Just no long before, rumour on Swansea defender also 1x million.

1x million rated players, considered lower quality?

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michu has no problem scoring with a lower quality players than us
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I would suggest u to watch cartoon network.
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QUOTE(cherroy @ Jun 14 2013, 03:38 PM)
Are you sure?

Allen from Swansea cost 1x million
Just no long before, rumour on Swansea defender also 1x million.

1x million rated players, considered lower quality?
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ONE player doesnt make the whole team suddenly better quality than us..ask around and the general answer u will get is liverpool squad is better than swansea..the table never lie
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Just watched a Youtube compilation video featuring Aspas.

From the videos, Aspas looks like a guy who can play on both wings, centre forward, exceptional dribbling skills, clinical and possess a conversion rate of 90% and above.

Liverpool certainly got themselves a bargain at 7mil because the video shows he is worth at least 20mil.

That's just YOUTUBE.

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Liverpool’s signing of Iago Aspas is being blocked by the Spanish Football Federation in a legal row over the player’s representation.

And according to emails seen by MirrorSport, Kop managing director Ian Ayre continued to negotiate with unauthorised agents over the deal even after discovering that he was not dealing with the player’s official FIFA-licensed representatives.

Aspas has a representation agreement with Jorge Santome and Carmelo Vicente until 2014, but attempted to force through a move to Anfield by enlisting the help of Barcelona-based agency PromoEsport.

As exclusively reported by the Daily Mirror last week, wrangling over the deal was holding up the finalisation of the transfer, and Celta Vigo and the Spanish Federation are now so furious at the conduct of Ayre, Liverpool and PromoEsport that they are refusing to release Aspas’ International Transfer Certificate (ITC).

This means that although the 25-year-old could be presented as a Reds player and even train with the side, while the RFEF refuse to release the ITC the player cannot feature in any official matches for the Reds.

Santome and Vicente are now taking action against PromoEsport through the Spanish Federation, backed by Celta Vigo and several other La Liga clubs who are angry with PromoEsport’s conduct.

The agency, which on their website claims to represent another Liverpool target, Barcelona’s Luis Alberto, is banned from the Celta training ground and used the player’s brother to present the offer to the Galician club in order to hide their involvement.

A Liverpool spokesman said: “There was a complication with the paperwork. For the deal to be completed both FAs have to release the paperwork and we are waiting for that to happen. However, we are confident that will be done shortly.”
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He apologised for his previous misdemeanours and revealed he just wanted to be appreciated for his footballing qualities.

'I had wrong attitudes, I recognised my mistakes, I apologised and would love to be valued more for my game on the field,' he added.

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OMG hope Aspas will not be the next borini or carroll or that ukraine player thingy forgot his name LMAO
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hope this clears soon enough.

we don't need to stumble on transfers in.
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QUOTE(rhoyo @ Jun 15 2013, 11:02 AM)
OMG hope Aspas will not be the next borini or carroll or that ukraine player thingy forgot his name LMAO
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Too soon to judge Borini IMO. He was out for most of the season and when he came back, he showed glimpses of quality. Let's see how he performs next season.

I'm guessing you're referring to triple H aka Voronin.
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QUOTE(Duke Red @ Jun 15 2013, 06:33 PM)
Too soon to judge Borini IMO. He was out for most of the season and when he came back, he showed glimpses of quality. Let's see how he performs next season.

I'm guessing you're referring to triple H aka Voronin.
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Voronin was a free transfer. We made a profit by selling him to Moscow if my memory serves me well.
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Voronin was a free transfer. We made a profit by selling him to Moscow if my memory serves me well.
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http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/22919112

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Simon Mignolet: Liverpool set to sign goalkeeper from Sunderland


I did not expect that one coming.
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QUOTE(n0v4m4r1n3 @ Jun 15 2013, 08:52 PM)
http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/22919112
I did not expect that one coming.
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No, we'll need 3 senior goalkeepers. Gulasci just left for Red Bull, meaning Jones will be 3rd choice. Expect Mignolet to put pressure on Reina for the starting lineup.
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Signing aspas seems to be a gamble.he could either fit in or struggle.

Financial wise it makes sense.Even if he fails we dont lose much like we did with the british flops.

I believe FSG are not letting br splash on any one player due to previous blunders by kenny and to some extent br himself.
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is everyone on mutual agreement not to talk about suarez?
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QUOTE(Petre @ Jun 15 2013, 10:55 PM)
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About Suarez. What matter now is How's Liverpool Football Club in 2013/14 season. No 1 is bigger than Liverpool FC.

Finally some interesting stories after a quiet week.

Aspas
- Confirmed in despite a last minute hitch
- Will go thru next week. Ignore report the deal is OFF.

Alberto
- Finally the player have given "The Green Light" to join us.
- We have made an offer which being turned down by Seville
- With the player had given an indication he's willing to join BR revolution
- A compromise deal shud b in tge table next week to seal the deal.
- Our No.3 signing.

Simon Mignolet
- Mooted that sunderland had turned down our 6.5mil deal
- Sunderland want 10mil.
- We r prepared to table a 8mil.
- Remained to b seen whether we want to push a 10mil for a keeper
- Reina looks like leaving as Vlades moved closer to a Monaco moved.

Papa
- We have turn our attention elsewhere where Schalke insisit he's worth 19mil
- As i mention before ..Now we have made Toby Alderweireld as a priority signing

Henrikh Mkhitaryan
- much depend on carroll transfer to west ham.
- Inside source stating Carroll will join them next week paving way..
- We r making Henrikh Mkhitaryan our most expensive summer signing
- We r looking to table an 15mil bid but Shakhtar Donetsk value him more than 20mil
- A compromise deal at 18mil with add on may seal the deal nect week.

Morata
- Real reserved striker which also currently playing for spain under 21.
- He's was one spain most impressive performer currently together with Isco.
- Looking to add him but no concrete news yet..
But signing Christian Tello remains our Forward Priority after Aspas

Next week should b very hot here...Hehe

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Signing aspas seems to be a gamble.he could either fit in or struggle.

Financial wise it makes sense.Even if he fails we dont lose much like we did with the british flops.

I believe FSG are not letting br splash on any one player due to previous blunders by kenny and to some extent br himself.
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Goes without saying that signing a foreign player is always a gamble. He looks like he will fit into our system and it comes down to whether or not he'll acclimatise in England.

FSG have reiterated their stance on negative spending time and time again. Not something new. The only reason they sanctioned the purchase of Carroll in particular was because we got a healthy profit from the sale of Torres. We also got a fair sum from Mereiles. The transfer fee for this season was said to be $20 million but if we do sign Henrikh Mkhitaryan, it means we'll be breaking the back. It could also indicate that Suarez, Pepe or both could be leaving and we're also looking to offload Skrtel and Shelvey. Having said all that, we did pay a fare sum for Suarez and we will for Mkhitaryan if the deal goes through. By our standards 20 over mil is a fair sum but as both players are young and have good numbers, it was an educated risk.


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If both Suarez and Caroll left this summer, I really wanted to see Borini as the CF, and both Aspass and Sturridge play at the right and left...

Borini played very well in the Italy U21 as a CF, while when he is in Liverpool, BR always put him at the flank there, which I think he can't really perform very well. I still believe he is a natural CF and goal poacher.
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Suarez is then questioned as to whether he would like to play for Real Madrid: “A player always aspires to be at the top of their profession and Madrid is at the top for any football player. But, do you know what it is like to play for Liverpool?”

The Uruguayan continues and gives very mixed messages: “It disturbs me that Liverpool are not in the Champions League every season. I’ve suffered at Liverpool,but when I think of what it represents to play for this club, & the love my daughter has… she sings the hymn… The hairs on my neck stand up when I play at Anfield.”

Finally, Luis Suarez talks about that bite on Branislav Ivanovic, that rocked English football: “How much can one bite sully all the goals I’ve scored? … If people knew the stuff that happens to me on the pitch, the kicks, the insults,they wouldn’t judge me. I could write a book on it.”
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finally i cant stand Suarez. sell him for 50m, if not let him rot on the bench
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Every few days Suarez is playing the come and get me card. So sick and tired of his antics. BR need to offload him. Distracting to the team.
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Ian Ayre cancels trip to economics conference to complete Henrikh Mkhitaryan deal

Liverpool Managing Director Ian Ayre has cancelled a trip to a conference in Brazil where he was due to discuss football economics in order to pursue the signing of Henrikh Mkhitaryan, according to Bloomberg.

Speculation linking Mkhitaryan with a move to Liverpool has increased over recent days, with the Reds hoping to tie up a deal for around £20million.

The Armenian international midfielder scored 25 goals in the Ukranian Premier League last season for Shakhtar Donetsk and enjoyed lots of praise after solid performances in the Champions League.

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Ayre was scheduled to be on a panel at a conference in Rio de Janeiro tomorrow to discuss economic opportunities for soccer. Instead he’s staying in Europe to negotiate with three-time Armenian player of the year Mkhitaryan, 24, according to the person, who declined to be identified because the deal isn’t complete.

Mkhitaryan would provide Brendan Rodgers’ attack with a fresh dynamic and superb close control.

Liverpool are thought to be hoping the possible signing of Mkhitaryan will convince Luis Suarez to stay at Anfield.



It seems no more (mere) grooming youngsters excuses or (supposedly) brooding 'british' players. Next season we are making serious assault.

there are so many many reasons to be hopeful than to be wishful 'hope' for a next season. cool2.gif cool2.gif cool2.gif
While there is still a gamble on new recruits, at least we aren't throwing hope over 'potential' yet to yield fruit until 4-5 seasons, at least we are taking care of short to mid term goals!! cool2.gif

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Link to Y E S !
It seems no more (mere) grooming youngsters excuses or (supposedly) brooding 'british' players. Next season we are making serious assault. 

there are so many many reasons to be hopeful than to be wishful 'hope' for a next season.  cool2.gif  cool2.gif  cool2.gif
While there is still a gamble on new recruits, at least we aren't throwing hope over 'potential' yet to yield fruit until 4-5 seasons, at least we are taking care of short to mid term goals!!  cool2.gif
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is he worth 22m? I've never heard of him prior to Liverpool being linked with him

just watched some youtube videos of him (yes i know) and looks like a pre-nurtured CR9. he's pretty fast too since ramires couldn't overtake him lol

does he speak English?
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QUOTE(Yuka Yuka @ Jun 16 2013, 10:23 PM)
is he worth 22m? I've never heard of him prior to Liverpool being linked with him

just watched some youtube videos of him (yes i know) and looks like a pre-nurtured CR9. he's pretty fast too since ramires couldn't overtake him lol

does he speak English?
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He's not worth it if we pay more than 20mil for him. I like him but its a gamble. Liverpool's initial valuation of 13mil was reasonable but i dont think shaktar would budge. They just sold Fernadinho, Henrik's teammate at Shaktar to City for a fee around 30mil. That's ridiculous for a 28 year old. He looked like a classy playmaker though but 30 mil?

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Told u guys things will b getting HOTTER coming weeks.

Henrikh Mkhitaryan
- Tx for the info then only go & dig the news out..hehe
- No 1 know him in PL
- But do U know that he score 25 goals last season
- He's the highest Goalscoring MF in Europe
- BR know that we need and out & out Goal Scorer from the "Middle"
- A department that we need to work on this Summer.
- If we can Gamble 20mil for Suarez & 35mil for Carroll. I don't see Y we can't sign him.
- Every transfer is a "Gamble"
- But as planned....He's BR No.1 Big Summer Signing. Terms @ Provided Caroll leaves foe 15.5mil "Will Announced He's Joining WH"
- Does any1 know Alonso when he came here? Does any1 know Meirless when he came here?
- That's how GOOD i rate him.
- Hope we secure him ASAP as another CL club is interested.
- Welcome Mkhitaryan....Yes! Finger Crossed!

Luis Alberto
- Liverpool has agreed the deal with Sevilla according to spanish newspaper
- 8million euro was accepted with further 2million add on depending on certain criteria meet.
- Welcome Alberto....Yes! Finger Crossed!

Ilori
- Portuguese newspaper A Bola reports that he has agreed term joining us.
- it's just 1million Euro short of Sporting valuation so strike the deal
- Look likely to strike it the couple of days..
- Welcome Ilori....Yes! Finger Crossed!

Unai Lopez
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- 17 years old
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- Featured in the 2012-2013 NextGen tournament for Bilbao, and played against Arsenal
- 9 goals in 22 games for Bilbao's youth team last season
- £1m buyout clause (3 clubs willing to meet)
@ Liverpool
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@ Fulham
We hope we a large Spanish armada building in Anfield will pursued him to sign for us.
More news to follow...

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QUOTE(Chris Lam @ Jun 17 2013, 12:32 AM)
Henrikh Mkhitaryan
- Tx for the info then only go & dig the news out..hehe
- No 1 know him in PL
- But do U know that he score 25 goals last season
- He's the highest Goalscoring MF in Europe
- BR know that we need and out & out Goal Scorer from the "Middle"
- A department that we need to work on this Summer.
- If we can Gamble 20mil for Suarez & 35mil for Carroll. I don't see Y we can't sign him.
- Every transfer is a "Gamble"
- But as planned....He's BR No.1 Big Summer Signing. Terms @ Provided Caroll leaves foe 15.5mil "Will Announced He's Joining WH"
- Does any1 know Alonso when he came here? Does any1 know Meirless when he came here?
- That's how GOOD i rate him.
- Hope we secure him ASAP as another CL club is interested.
- Welcome Mkhitaryan....Yes! Finger Crossed!

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I know he scored 25 goals from midfield..BUT..Its the Ukraninan league and i have no idea how strong/competitive it is compared to the other big leagues. He also played for Shaktar the runaway champion..they were a very strong team compared to the rest of the competition. He was surrounded by decent players in a supposedly weaker league. But i really do not have much knowledge regarding him, shaktar and the Ukraine league. I hope you are right because he is the most exciting out of all the players that we are associated with. I'm just not too sure about his price tag.

Regarding Suarez, He was not gamble aside from his attitude. Technically, still a gamble but a calculated one. He was a star player for Ajax and a standout performer for Uruguay during the 2010 world cup bar the Ghana handball incident. Everyone knows his ability..for 22-24 million, I still can't believe we managed to get him.

Carroll for 35 million was just a case where they had too much money to spend and bet it all on one horse. Carroll = Horse. Not a wise business decision no matter how you look at it. Naivety in gambling.

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i like what i see in Henrikh Mkhitaryan


i know of the disappointments in gambling on 'some' reputation, "that serial spitter" amongst them etc
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We have had bad experiences when it comes to players from italian and dutch leagues. Kuyt and Babel scored like mad in the Dutch league but turned into herbivores when they came. So buying Suarez was a gamble in this sense. The 24m was a just valuation of his reputation at that time, so it's pretty fair.

FSG says Carroll's price is determined by how much they got for Torres, I don't know if they made the story up to save somebody's face but that was one hell of a bad deal. The only way a player could justify a 35m price tag was if he played to the level of Torres in his maiden season. For a player who has just played a season in the EPL, it's really ridiculous.

btw, does anybody know how to pronounce Henrikh Mkhitaryan? hahaha
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Suarez is a gone case. Goodbye

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no, i think suarez may stay

his hissy fit is clearly same as torres when he lamented the fact that we should be at the top fighting for honours & fighting for champions league places & playing IN champions league. we dont deserve & weren't that because our recruitment has been so-so.

He sees it from within. HE knows he has so much time left at the top & to not be involved in top league would be seen as a pity.

The argument may then be why isn't he thinking for liverpool instead? hmm this has been debated countless times. blush.gif
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QUOTE(Yuka Yuka @ Jun 17 2013, 04:26 AM)
We have had bad experiences when it comes to players from italian and dutch leagues. Kuyt and Babel scored like mad in the Dutch league but turned into herbivores when they came. So buying Suarez was a gamble in this sense. The 24m was a just valuation of his reputation at that time, so it's pretty fair.

FSG says Carroll's price is determined by how much they got for Torres, I don't know if they made the story up to save somebody's face but that was one hell of a bad deal. The only way a player could justify a 35m price tag was if he played to the level of Torres in his maiden season. For a player who has just played a season in the EPL, it's really ridiculous.

btw, does anybody know how to pronounce Henrikh Mkhitaryan? hahaha
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You are right. Bottom line is..Suarez was really worth 24mil when we bought him. Henrik on the other hand is not a 22million player imo. I hope I'm wrong. And I think the commentators will have a tough time pronouncing his name..lol. I can't even spell his surname..too many consonants..not enough vowels.

Also..Bye bye Suarez.

P/S: Suarez's freekick against Spain last nite was awesome.

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QUOTE(Yuka Yuka @ Jun 16 2013, 10:23 PM)
is he worth 22m? I've never heard of him prior to Liverpool being linked with him

just watched some youtube videos of him (yes i know) and looks like a pre-nurtured CR9. he's pretty fast too since ramires couldn't overtake him lol

does he speak English?
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If we had heard of him, he'll be $50mil by now. biggrin.gif

Quite agree with Chris Lam on this. Every transfer is a gamble. It's all about team work at the end of the day. You can 100mil pounds rated striker but if nobody pass the ball to you, then nothing's gonna work tongue.gif


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The biggest mistake suarez had done is keep talking about the possible transfer to Real Madrid. It somehow break the bonding with the fans. Suarez just need to stop talking.

I am however, really hope that he stay at anfield next season. His case is totally different with torress
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The biggest mistake suarez had done is keep talking about the possible transfer to Real Madrid. It somehow break the bonding with the fans. Suarez just need to stop talking.

I am however, really hope that he stay at anfield next season. His case is totally different with torress
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He's gone. We just have to accept it. The sooner we face it, the better it is for us. He used to come out and refute strongly against any speculations linking towards his move elsewhere. He used to say his only place is liverpool and nothing else.

All that romance is gone now. His mind is made up. He owes us nothing in spite of the fact that many Liverpool legends have said that he does. He had more than pay it up with the many goals and performances on field and if he is sold for 50mil, he's gonna give us a handsome profit. So in my book, he owes us nothing.

If the man wants to go, let him go.

If we get Henri in, then it will be fearsome combination of the below:

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Couts----Henri-------Aspas


I do believe this strike force can bring us fruitful results even without Luis.
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Suarez just doesn't stop talking does he? Letting him go means letting go another world class player but then again, if it's another 50+Mil in the pocket to bolster our squad then why not? We might not get another player of his quality but that's a risk every football club faces when it comes to buying any football player.
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QUOTE(Petre @ Jun 16 2013, 07:19 PM)
finally i cant stand Suarez. sell him for 50m, if not let him rot on the bench
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QUOTE(chenwfng @ Jun 17 2013, 11:10 AM)
Suarez just doesn't stop talking does he? Letting him go means letting go another world class player but then again, if it's another 50+Mil in the pocket to bolster our squad then why not? We might not get another player of his quality but that's a risk every football club faces when it comes to buying any football player.
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+999 with what petre said.

despite how the media treats him, LFC (the entire club including the fans) stood by him. week in week out as he gives his best for us. now? "come and get me Madrid." in each and every interview that he's had. the club should open an auction for him with a starting price of 30mil. or else just let him rot in the reserves team. the club does not need anymore half assed player with full of antic.
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QUOTE(wadefak @ Jun 17 2013, 11:28 AM)
+999 with what petre said.

despite how the media treats him, LFC (the entire club including the fans) stood by him. week in week out as he gives his best for us. now? "come and get me Madrid." in each and every interview that he's had. the club should open an auction for him with a starting price of 30mil. or else just let him rot in the reserves team. the club does not need anymore half assed player with full of antic.
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starting price at least 40m la bro.. buy out clause 40m ma lol...
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QUOTE(wadefak @ Jun 17 2013, 11:28 AM)
+999 with what petre said.

despite how the media treats him, LFC (the entire club including the fans) stood by him. week in week out as he gives his best for us. now? "come and get me Madrid." in each and every interview that he's had. the club should open an auction for him with a starting price of 30mil. or else just let him rot in the reserves team. the club does not need anymore half assed player with full of antic.
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If you look at the positive side, he is at least being honest and not hypocritical about it. Still better than players who said he's gonna be here and not going anywhere and then next moment, pack the bag and leave. biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(Yuka Yuka @ Jun 17 2013, 11:35 AM)
starting price at least 40m la bro.. buy out clause 40m ma lol...
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Senor Perez raise his hand.
"Real Madrid 80mil! Anymore bidders?"

That is when Dustin Clare comes in and say "U MAD?" biggrin.gif

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QUOTE(dillonyong @ Jun 17 2013, 11:35 AM)
If you look at the positive side, he is at least being honest and not hypocritical about it. Still better than players who said he's gonna be here and not going anywhere and then next moment, pack the bag and leave. biggrin.gif
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now which KOP judas are u referring to here? tongue.gif
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if 50m sell him!
if all bid below 50m let him root in bench
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Suarez scored a spectacular free kick this morning against Spain, should raise his price to 60mil now brows.gif
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now which KOP judas are u referring to here? tongue.gif
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Not specifically referring to Liverpool players la. Just that, at least he is openly honest about it.

I can understand. In our world, it is Google or Microsoft approaching him with a USD30,000 a month salary. Who in this forum would say NO because you still love your Ali and Ah Chong Sdn Bhd company. biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(dillonyong @ Jun 17 2013, 11:45 AM)
Not specifically referring to Liverpool players la. Just that, at least he is openly honest about it.

I can understand. In our world, it is Google or Microsoft approaching him with a USD30,000 a month salary. Who in this forum would say NO because you still love your Ali and Ah Chong Sdn Bhd company. biggrin.gif
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not as bad as ali ah chong company la bro... lol
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QUOTE(dillonyong @ Jun 17 2013, 11:35 AM)
If you look at the positive side, he is at least being honest and not hypocritical about it. Still better than players who said he's gonna be here and not going anywhere and then next moment, pack the bag and leave. biggrin.gif
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well i dont know if he (suarez) is any better at the moment. we are in the process of rebuilding, he knows how much the club and supporters love and support him, and now this - he wants out and blames everyone else but himself. what an irony, the man we risk so much to protect and support bites us back. and remember, nobody really voiced any interest in him - its him who wants out

why dont just sell him to indonesian league for RM1?

he is worse than torres if you ask me
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QUOTE(Yuka Yuka @ Jun 17 2013, 11:47 AM)
not as bad as ali ah chong company la bro... lol
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Ok la. Mydin. biggrin.gif

If we are not careful for the next few years, then we will be Ali and Ah Chong soon. Who knows, Kedai Mamak Mansoor one day tongue.gif
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QUOTE(Petre @ Jun 17 2013, 11:51 AM)
well i dont know if he (suarez) is any better at the moment. we are in the process of rebuilding, he knows how much the club and supporters love and support him, and now this - he wants out and blames everyone else but himself. what an irony, the man we risk so much to protect and support bites us back. and remember, nobody really voiced any interest in him - its him who wants out

why dont just sell him to indonesian league for RM1?

he is worse than torres if you ask me
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oh the irony of the bolded part sweat.gif

also, selling to an indonesian league club for RM1 would be the best for him, but apparently not for the club. its a HUGE lost man. might as well open him up for auction. since he wants out so badly
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QUOTE(Petre @ Jun 17 2013, 11:51 AM)
well i dont know if he (suarez) is any better at the moment. we are in the process of rebuilding, he knows how much the club and supporters love and support him, and now this - he wants out and blames everyone else but himself. what an irony, the man we risk so much to protect and support bites us back. and remember, nobody really voiced any interest in him - its him who wants out

why dont just sell him to indonesian league for RM1?

he is worse than torres if you ask me
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Wow, so angry, Old Sport? biggrin.gif. Chill chill. The least we can do is make money out of him now and build the team. If he wants to go, let him go la. But anything below 50mil, that should be automatically rejected.

I heard Juve thinks they can get him with 30mil bid. LOL. We used to fail Maths during Comolli time, but it aint no more. biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(dillonyong @ Jun 17 2013, 11:54 AM)
Wow, so angry, Old Sport? biggrin.gif. Chill chill. The least we can do is make money out of him now and build the team. If he wants to go, let him go la. But anything below 50mil, that should be automatically rejected.

I heard Juve thinks they can get him with 30mil bid. LOL. We used to fail Maths during Comolli time, but it aint no more. biggrin.gif
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i thought hiding for a few weeks and you can forget calling me old sport! no!!!!!!!!!!!!

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QUOTE(wadefak @ Jun 17 2013, 11:54 AM)
oh the irony of the bolded part sweat.gif

also, selling to an indonesian league club for RM1 would be the best for him, but apparently not for the club. its a HUGE lost man. might as well open him up for auction. since he wants out so badly
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he certainly didnt help when he screams 'i want out' every single interview. he could have shut it and get us the biggest bidder. no. he cant shut up and someone can come with 20m with the excuse we have a player who doesnt want to play for us. sell him before he opens his mouth again doh.gif

what we need most in this moment of rebuilding is team spirit and trust. this guy certainly demonstrated none of it
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i thought hiding for a few weeks and you can forget calling me old sport! no!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Old Sport = Old Friend  rclxms.gif

LOL. Blame it on Leonardo DiCaprio for saying it in "The Great Gatsby"
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hmm.gif ha banyak pandai.. you did that before the movie came out laugh.gif

anyway tak kisah lah hehehe

just very pissed to see almost all liverpool headlines are about how suffering suarez's life is...
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no wonder mr henry wanna sign young player coz dey can nurture the player with the club history.. when signing player 24 above after he become world class he will easily naik toncang
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Actually one of our positive last season was Scoring from Suarez "Magic Freekick"..Some of the Goal really bail us out those drab draws & hard to breach defense. The prob is..if we loose him. Where the freekick goals going to come from? Dam. Gerrard hardly score from freekicks also.

That's is saddest thing that i would miss from Suarez is His "Freekick Supreme". No 1 had score more than he did in the League last season or any Liverpool player do so in recent year. I will miss those "Beauty".
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QUOTE(Chris Lam @ Jun 17 2013, 01:43 PM)
Actually one of our positive last season was Scoring from Suarez "Magic Freekick"..Some of the Goal really bail us out those drab draws & hard to breach defense. The prob is..if we loose him. Where the freekick goals going to come from? Dam. Gerrard hardly score from freekicks also.

That's is saddest thing that i would miss from Suarez is His "Freekick Supreme". No 1 had score more than he did in the League last season or any Liverpool player do so in recent year. I will miss those "Beauty".
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No Suarez doesn't mean the end of the world. In my opinion, we have a much stronger squad than we had when KD was in charge. If Suarez does leave, then it's a good chance for other players to step up their game.
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QUOTE(Chris Lam @ Jun 17 2013, 01:43 PM)
Actually one of our positive last season was Scoring from Suarez "Magic Freekick"..Some of the Goal really bail us out those drab draws & hard to breach defense. The prob is..if we loose him. Where the freekick goals going to come from? Dam. Gerrard hardly score from freekicks also.

That's is saddest thing that i would miss from Suarez is His "Freekick Supreme". No 1 had score more than he did in the League last season or any Liverpool player do so in recent year. I will miss those "Beauty".
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Yeah..Gerrard hardly hits the target anymore with his freekicks..ballooned it all the time. we will certainly miss Suarez's set piece contributions. He did perfected his art of free-kicking during his time with us..to think that he'll use it for another team in the future saddens me too.
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Lerijiso : Agreed

Chenwfng : Bro. No 1 is irreplaceable. I know la. I'm just stating that we will miss those freekick goals that others in the squad doesn't really posses that gifted goal threats. It's a weapon of threat & every successful team need 1 of scoring weapon in the game which is scoring from "Freekicks"..

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QUOTE(Chris Lam @ Jun 17 2013, 02:10 PM)
Lerijiso : Agreed

Chenwfng : Bro. No 1 is irreplaceable. I know la. I'm just stating that we will miss those freekick goals that others in the squad doesn't really posses that gifted goal threats. It's a weapon of threat & every successful team need 1 of scoring weapon in the game which is scoring from "Freekicks"..

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And I don't disagree. Was trying to say if Suarez leaves, we now have players who are capable of taking free kicks aside from Gerrard (I know, he misses most now), KD's team didn't have players who could take free kicks and it was all on Gerrard. The rest has to step up their game and score some free kicks.
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Let Coutinho takeover as Freekick Specialist tongue.gif
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QUOTE(chenwfng @ Jun 17 2013, 02:33 PM)
And I don't disagree. Was trying to say if Suarez leaves, we now have players who are capable of taking free kicks aside from Gerrard (I know, he misses most now), KD's team didn't have players who could take free kicks and it was all on Gerrard. The rest has to step up their game and score some free kicks.
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Bro. I'm not saying others wont step up. Suarez score from a ratio 7/10. Tell me who can do so in that kind of ratio? Got. In Beckham o Ronaldo o mayb Bale (Stil score less than Suarez). We don't have that technically gifted freekick taker other than Suarez. Gerrard is Good but doesn't give u there returned ratio. I'm stating if we loose suarez...Those crucial freekick GOALS we will miss. Couthinho o others takes...They will score but would not GUARANTE you watching infront of the TV that Suarez have 70% chances of scoring.







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QUOTE(Chris Lam @ Jun 17 2013, 03:02 PM)
Bro. I'm not saying others wont step up. Suarez score from a ratio 7/10. Tell me who can do so in that kind of ratio? Got. In Beckham o Ronaldo o mayb Bale (Stil score less than Suarez). We don't have that technically gifted freekick taker other than Suarez. Gerrard is Good but doesn't give u there returned ratio. I'm stating if we loose suarez...Those crucial freekick GOALS we will miss. Couthinho o others takes...They will score but would not GUARANTE you watching infront of the TV that Suarez have 70% chances of scoring.


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I know what you trying to say man, never disagreed to your opinion... chill la... don't need to put up so many videos. Suarez is amazing and an unbelievably clinical free kick taker and is irreplaceable and is super duper important and crucial to the team and is a key player to rebuilding our team as one of Europe's top team bla bla bla bla... I understand la haiyo.. He has more than one occasion saved Liverpool with a draw or a win with those free kicks. Just that, we haven't seen much of others taking free kicks so I would like to see others get their chance. Would be nice also to see the team not relying on one player to score free kicks and save the team from losing.

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Chill chill. Watch this free kick instead. tongue.gif


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selling suarez now is a bloody mistake. its like telling "hey, we agree we are not there yet & no sooner getting to fight for CL places, well, we rather make money by selling this whiner who wants to go to madrid"

*off man. that's not the way we operate. no one is bigger than the club & so long he is under contract, his football legs is own by liverpool fc

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selling suarez now is a bloody mistake. its like telling "hey, we agree we are not there yet & no sooner getting to fight for CL places, well, we rather make money by selling this whiner who wants to go to madrid"

*off man. that's not the way we operate. no one is bigger than the club & so long he is under contract, his football legs is own by liverpool fc
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We know but there's nothing we can do. The man wants to go and the money is good for us, we have to consider.

We can force him to stay but will that be any good? I loathed the fact that the fans will turn against him.
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QUOTE(koolspyda @ Jun 17 2013, 05:22 PM)
selling suarez now is a bloody mistake. its like telling "hey, we agree we are not there yet & no sooner getting to fight for CL places, well, we rather make money by selling this whiner who wants to go to madrid"

*off man. that's not the way we operate. no one is bigger than the club & so long he is under contract, his football legs is own by liverpool fc
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The man already said to respect his wish for a transfer. What more can be said
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Absolute disgrace behavior from suarez after what had Liverpool in protecting/supporting him for all the wrongdoing......just go to Real Madrid and root in their bench just like Owen.....
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QUOTE(koolspyda @ Jun 17 2013, 05:22 PM)
selling suarez now is a bloody mistake. its like telling "hey, we agree we are not there yet & no sooner getting to fight for CL places, well, we rather make money by selling this whiner who wants to go to madrid"

*off man. that's not the way we operate. no one is bigger than the club & so long he is under contract, his football legs is own by liverpool fc
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So far, I see no one agree on selling,
but what the club can do, if the player handed a transfer request?

Forcing the player to honour the rest of contract?


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Ayew has been linked with Arsenal in a swap for Gervinho.

"This is a championship that every player dreams about. I am Ghanaian and therefore a fan of English football. It is the most watched league in Ghana. I have a big preference for England," smiled Ayew.

"I've always followed the Reds. I have been a Liverpool supporter since I was very young."

http://www.tribalfootball.com/articles/mar...ed#.Ub8Xxtj6vME
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There is no doubt that suarez is a hot property...especially coming to liverpool provided the perfect platform for him to showcase his ability and talent, not that he is not showing it with the national team, that time and again he scores...but i do agree that should we become a springboard for some of the best in europe - the mcmanaman, ownen, torres...and now suarez....i am incline to think that the press are spinning all sorta rumours, and probably suarez never said anything to the press...guess we'll just have to see how it pan out...

Makes me wonder whether are we the sprinboard for Henrik Miktharyan too...or should we go for Ayew...a self confess Red fans....having evaluated this Henrik...@ 20 million, its not too much if we want to make a statement of intent for next season..the only catch here is how good is he? I am sure that being an Armenian doesnt help with his credibility...but as a marquee signing for BR, 20 million is the faith FSG has on BR...and I'll be damn if he dont do his homework on this henrik guy....if he does join us..it will make our build up play more exciting next season...as most if not all the core players are made up of players with good touches, that operates across the field and play in between the lines - players like Sturridge, Coutinho....Aspas...henrik...and even downing being a 2 footed, should be able to interchange and make runs and doesnt hesitate to shoot...having Sterling, Suso or even Asaidi, we have at least a semblance of depth, all in all we technically improves our penetrative play..and have the players with the mentality to play off either the full backs or the CD and have the necessary pace to spun off the last man...but questions remain, who will feed those passes from centre of midfield...SG again? I have my doubts, given our captain is a tad bit slower, and most the time fully mark by the opposition...Henderson and Lucas are not noted for their thru balls...so is Jonjo...or perhaps Mikhtryan is the next playmaker for the reds... pulling the string...and flowing the creative juice from the middle of the park...20 million for Henrik as the main creative fulcrum ala David Silva,, or Hazard in Chelsea...its the least we expect for a club of liverpool stature...
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suarez is early peak so better sell him quick for max profit
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So far, I see no one agree on selling,
but what the club can do, if the player handed a transfer request?

Forcing the player to honour the rest of contract?
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its time liverpoolfc play mean

We've been pushed around too much in the past, throws tantrum, hands in request & we obliged. maybe in the past we weren't good enough to be having much quality players or grade AAA type to support players that headed out, i.e. torres, mascherano, owen, mcmanaman. maybe we (Lfc) was partially responsible to just rely on gerrard-torres combo or gerrard-owen combo or gerrard-suarez combo. We have been known to be called a 2 man team. oh damn, its always gerrard+ (insert name) again.

Ok. maybe we aren't able to get type AAA but it seems we are willing to get AA or a few graded players (instead of fringe B's, allen??). (Btw you guys know that Henrikh Mkhitaryan deal is all to be sewn up this week right? cool2.gif )

Henrikh's deal would seem that we are probably lifting the "burden" off our star players. i know we shouldn't rely on weather Henrikh will suit the premiership but the philosophy behind rodger's pick would seem, "hey we aren't just always grooming (young) players to be sold".

Whether or not it will convinced the likes of suarez to take notice but we hell wouldn't want to let next seasons opportunity pass us by without a fight. (reasons stated before)

I will tell suarez this, your boots are liverpool boots (you have a contract, we expect you to be a professional. play as you are 100% as always or take a seat on the bench)

No professional will want (or like) to take a seat on the bench esp players like suarez. Every player lives to "play' (maybe not english players like joe cole who would rather flirt with the medical nurses ?? blush.gif ). So i expect suarez to realise we can play hard ball this time too.

I believe Rodgers may means business this time. he has certain shortcomings on tactics but he has learned to adapt quickly against oppositions.



IF shankly was managed suarez, and if suarez pulls a transfer request, i would think shankly will just tear the transfer request in his face. (just a shock value, but knowing shankly he will pull the player aside & give him a piece of his mind that the player will never ever forgets.

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QUOTE(koolspyda @ Jun 18 2013, 07:59 AM)
its time liverpoolfc play mean

we've been pushed around too much in the past, throws tantrum, hands in request & we obliged. maybe in the past we weren't good enough to be having much quality players or grade AAA type to support players that headed out torres, mascherano, owen, mcmanaman. maybe we (Lfc) was partially responsible to just rely on gerrard-torres combo or gerrard-owen combo or gerrard-suarez combo. We have been known to be called a 2 man team. oh damn, its always gerrard+ (insert name) again.

Ok. maybe we aren't able to get type AAA but it seems we are willing to get AA or a few graded players (instead of fringe B's, allen??). Btw you guys know that Henrikh Mkhitaryan deal is all to be sewn up this week right?  cool2.gif

Henrikh's deal would seem we are lifting the burden off our star players. i know we shouldn't rely on weather Henrikh will suit the premiership but the philosophy behind rodgers pick would seem, "hey we aren't just alway grooming players to be sold"

weather or not it will convinced the likes of suarez to take notice but we hell wouldn't want to let next seasons opportunity pass us by without a fight. (reasons stated before)

I will tell suarez this, you boots are liverpool boots (you have a contract, we expect you to be a professional. play as you are 100% as always or take a seat on the bench)

no professional will want to take a seat on the bench. every player lives to "play'. So i expect suarez to realise we can play hard ball this time too.

I believe Rodgers may means business this time. he has certain shortcomings on tactics but he has learned to adapt quickly against oppositions.
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No club can stop a player when he already handed down a transfer request. No matter what his grade is. Remember Cristiano Ronaldo? I believe and I quote "I would rather let him rot on the bench rather than him going to Real Madrid" - Rudolph

and really I would't let a player whose heart is already somewhere else to play for the club. Something worse than the bite could happen. This is 21st century football. Players play for fame and fortune. They come and go. Deal with it

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OMG hope Aspas will not be the next borini or carroll or that ukraine player thingy forgot his name LMAO
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QUOTE(Chris Lam @ Jun 17 2013, 03:02 PM)
Bro. I'm not saying others wont step up. Suarez score from a ratio 7/10. Tell me who can do so in that kind of ratio? Got. In Beckham o Ronaldo o mayb Bale (Stil score less than Suarez). We don't have that technically gifted freekick taker other than Suarez. Gerrard is Good but doesn't give u there returned ratio. I'm stating if we loose suarez...Those crucial freekick GOALS we will miss. Couthinho o others takes...They will score but would not GUARANTE you watching infront of the TV that Suarez have 70% chances of scoring.







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Yes Suarez is a very technically gifted player. But if his heart is in the wrong place, he might not play well. He might even play worse then he can now. If he's gone, then he's gone. We need passionate players to play for our beloved club. Remember the saying from KD "Nobody is bigger than the club". Keep that in mind.. YNWA
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Andy Carroll poised for £15m West Ham move as Liverpool line up Iago Aspas and Simon Mignolet

Andy Carroll will undergo a medical at West Ham United on Tuesday as Liverpool prepare to make a £20 million loss on their club-record signing.

By Mark Ogden11:00PM BST 17 Jun 201314 Comments
Carroll, a £35 million buy from Newcastle United in January 2011, was due to fly back from a holiday in the United States on Monday night to complete the formalities of his £15 million transfer to Upton Park, following a season-long loan with Sam Allardyce’s team last season.
The 24-year-old, who scored seven goals in 24 Premier League appearances for West Ham during his loan, is understood to have agreed a six-year contract worth £100,000 a week in order to complete a permanent move to the London club.




thank god for that!!..gud luck andy..u wont be a successful player under BR system biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(koolspyda @ Jun 18 2013, 07:59 AM)
its time liverpoolfc play mean

we've been pushed around too much in the past, throws tantrum, hands in request & we obliged. maybe in the past we weren't good enough to be having much quality players or grade AAA type to support players that headed out torres, mascherano, owen, mcmanaman. maybe we (Lfc) was partially responsible to just rely on gerrard-torres combo or gerrard-owen combo or gerrard-suarez combo. We have been known to be called a 2 man team. oh damn, its always gerrard+ (insert name) again.

Ok. maybe we aren't able to get type AAA but it seems we are willing to get AA or a few graded players (instead of fringe B's, allen??). Btw you guys know that Henrikh Mkhitaryan deal is all to be sewn up this week right?  cool2.gif

Henrikh's deal would seem we are lifting the burden off our star players. i know we shouldn't rely on weather Henrikh will suit the premiership but the philosophy behind rodgers pick would seem, "hey we aren't just alway grooming players to be sold"

weather or not it will convinced the likes of suarez to take notice but we hell wouldn't want to let next seasons opportunity pass us by without a fight. (reasons stated before)

I will tell suarez this, you boots are liverpool boots (you have a contract, we expect you to be a professional. play as you are 100% as always or take a seat on the bench)

no professional will want to take a seat on the bench. every player lives to "play'. So i expect suarez to realise we can play hard ball this time too.

I believe Rodgers may means business this time. he has certain shortcomings on tactics but he has learned to adapt quickly against oppositions.
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I think you may have a point. Usually, i do feel that we should let players who wanted to go, GO. But i think in Suarez's case, we can force him to stay. Just like what City/Mancini did to Tevez. I don't think Suarez plays golf tongue.gif so he'll probably just sulk.

I say this because looking at the way our transfers are going about, Suarez's departure was never in the plan for FSG. FSG will spend money to acquire players regardless of us selling Suarez. Apart from the Carroll to west ham deal to fund our future purchases and several others like Shelvey and Skrtel, we are not looking to profit from Suarez's sale.

Looking at reports suggesting that we are close to the Armenian (who I think is overpriced) suggests that we are giving a strong signal of intent to push strong next season. I think FSG have the money to make it happen. Suarez staying will only strengthen our squad. I think he is passionate & professional enough to keep playing with us albeit forced because he is a world class player who likes to play football and he must have one eye fixed on cleaning up his image thus increasing his value to attract "BIGGER" clubs.

P/s: Remember, Suarez is a player who likes to play. He wont be happy not playing and sitting on the bench and that guy just wont get injured. I have a strong feeling that if he was forced to stay with us, he will play and give his best. I Hope.

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Andy Carroll poised for £15m West Ham move as Liverpool line up Iago Aspas and Simon Mignolet

Andy Carroll will undergo a medical at West Ham United on Tuesday as Liverpool prepare to make a £20 million loss on their club-record signing.

By Mark Ogden11:00PM BST 17 Jun 201314 Comments
Carroll, a £35 million buy from Newcastle United in January 2011, was due to fly back from a holiday in the United States on Monday night to complete the formalities of his £15 million transfer to Upton Park, following a season-long loan with Sam Allardyce’s team last season.
The 24-year-old, who scored seven goals in 24 Premier League appearances for West Ham during his loan, is understood to have agreed a six-year contract worth £100,000 a week in order to complete a permanent move to the London club.
thank god for that!!..gud luck andy..u wont be a successful player under BR system biggrin.gif
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What?? 100k per week..wow. Cant believe West Ham fell for that.

Anyway, good luck Andy Carroll! Those two goals against ManCity will always be remembered.
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What?? 100k per week..wow. Cant believe West Ham fell for that.

Anyway, good luck Andy Carroll! Those two goals against ManCity will always be remembered.
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He is an inspiration to all of us for the theory of "Ask and you shall get. Seek and you shall find".

Tell you what, guys. Let's all apply for a USD10,000 a month job. Everybody send your resume in Jobstreet, The Star, Jobdbs, Indeed.com, where ever. LOL. It doesnt matter if you are not that qualified. Persistence is the key. biggrin.gif

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QUOTE(dillonyong @ Jun 18 2013, 10:28 AM)
He is an inspiration to all of us for the theory of "Ask and you shall get. Seek and you shall find".

Tell you what, guys. Let's all apply for a USD10,000 a month job. Everybody send your resume in Jobstreet, The Star, Jobdbs, Indeed.com, where ever. LOL. It doesnt matter if you are not that qualified. Persistence is the key. biggrin.gif
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Guys. Rodgers know that he got to get it right this summer or else he will be spending his Christmas early. Anyway..I like all the Genuine interest guys that goin to signed for us. Dam it. Finally CL for us is coming for 2014/15. U may think that i'm too Optimistic but We should be coz since the League has started...every season..in Liverpool..we need to b successful.Though i really like Rafa to be back but Rodgers is at helm now & what he is offering is Nice but he know that there is flaws in his Philosophy. In the recent interview..he had promise that he will bring new idea in to make "Us' what he trying to crafted. Hope he succeed..at we r craving to b challenging the League & Cups again..

Simon Mignolet
- We have open talk
- A comprise deal will b meet
- Seem there's a deal in place for Reina to signed for Barca
- Which is y we r pushing for this deal.

Henrikh Mkhitaryan - His DEAL is being FUND by the Sales of ANDY CARROLL - TQ
- Which i mention much earlier in the forum that he's one of top 3 summer signing targets.
- Though reports that we r willing to pay 23/25mil pound deal & he's coming for a medical.
- But close source urge us to b little caution as information is sketchy and very speculative at this moment in time
- Due to Shakhtar is not easy to deal & other CL clubs r flirting around him..
But this is the real deal. Mkhitaryan been "GRANTED PERMISSION" to hold talks with Liverpool. In order to b "GP" to talk to us.....A transfer fee must have been "Agreed" and a "Bid Accepted" by Shakhtar. Within the next 24 hours...We should know whether he's set for a "Medical" as reports stated. Finger CROSSED
- P/S - I think the reason behind BR is pushing this deal is that he see his talent in the mold of Gylfi Sigurðsson which is a success under BR system in Swansea. Just gutted that "Sigurðsson" choose spurs coz more in wages. F him. Spurs can have him.

Let's Enjoyed His 25 Goal Last Season...


His CL Performance Vs Chelsea & Mind U it's with Shakhtar talent


His CL Performance Vs Juventus


Score the 4th Goal Where Amenia Thrashed Denmark 4-0


Borini Out?
Borini said this..."I do not want to leave Liverpool despite all the speculation, my future is in England and at Liverpool"

Suarez Exits...?
- It being mooted that we would not anything less than 40mil pound.
- But close sources state Real r planning to offer 25/30mil + Spain Under-21 star Alvaro Morata(CF) to us to seal the deal
- FYI @ BR did have a look at Alvaro Morata talent which he shinning at the current Under 21 tournament.
My Personal Opinion. If we can get 40mil + Morata will b "GREAT" value but i think Real r goin to offer 30mil + Add On to 33/35mil + Morata to sealed the "Dealed". They wont be willing to pay more than 40mil coz Suarez wanted to moved & their Primary target is BALE not Suarez.

Anyway..Enjoyed some talents of Alvaro Morata


zakwanfuad : I know la. No 1 is Bigger Than LIverpool Football CLub. I'M STATING WE WILL MISS THOSE CRUCIAL FREEKICKS GOALS!!!!AS SIMPLE AS THAT...TAILO



More news should reached u guys after 7 tonight by the media if i can't update u guys fast enough..Haha

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Dear Chris,

Thanks for the update..

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QUOTE(Chris Lam @ Jun 18 2013, 10:42 AM)
Suarez Exits...?
- It being mooted that we would not anything less than 40mil pound.
- But close sources state Real r planning to offer 25/30mil + Spain Under-21 star Alvaro Morata(CF) to us to seal the deal
- FYI @ BR did have a look at Alvaro Morata talent which he shinning at the current Under 21 tournament.
My Personal Opinion. If we can get 40mil + Morata will b "GREAT" value but i think Real r goin to offer 30mil + Add On to 33/35mil + Morata to sealed the "Dealed". They wont be willing to pay more than 40mil coz Suarez wanted to moved & their Primary target is BALE not Suarez.

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They think that we are bargain bin and desperate to sell? Again REAL is trying to bully us vmad.gif

Since their primary target is THE APE, then go and rot there in SPURS and dont come flirting with Suarez and then give a rubbish price.

And they can keep Morata! All their players coming to us has been a flop so far. Nunez, Morientes - ring a bell?


SO NO THANKS! mad.gif


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Real's target has always been Bale. Suarez's whoring himself out to Real is the only reason they are considering entertaining the Suarez bid..because they are REAL and they CAN.

We must not be bullied. 40mil opening price. No pasar malam sale for Suarez. And who the hell is Morata? More youtube research is needed..lol
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We are REAL foolish if we sell Suarez for anything below 50mil. He has a long term contract with us. It's not 18 months, it's not 12 months. It is 50 odd months over left if I am not mistaken.

Not sure if the 40mil clause is real. If it is, then it is out of our hands but if not, then 50mil and not a penny less. Kick that in with goals and appearances fee. And that is the REAL price for other clubs.

For Real Madrid, 60mil and not a penny less only because we want to teach the bully not to bully. biggrin.gif
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Falcao went for 51m to farkin monaco!!..suarez surely has no problem getting 55m minimum no??
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QUOTE(skeleton202 @ Jun 17 2013, 12:51 PM)
no wonder mr henry wanna sign young player coz dey can nurture the player with the club history.. when signing player 24 above after he become world class he will easily naik toncang
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QUOTE(Chris Lam @ Jun 17 2013, 01:43 PM)
Actually one of our positive last season was Scoring from Suarez "Magic Freekick"..Some of the Goal really bail us out those drab draws & hard to breach defense. The prob is..if we loose him. Where the freekick goals going to come from? Dam. Gerrard hardly score from freekicks also.

That's is saddest thing that i would miss from Suarez is His "Freekick Supreme". No 1 had score more than he did in the League last season or any Liverpool player do so in recent year. I will miss those "Beauty".
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Let Coutinho takeover as Freekick Specialist tongue.gif
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What we can think of the Suarez situation, LFC knows better. We're on top of the situation, interested club either pay up or shut up. tongue.gif
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QUOTE(Yluxion @ Jun 18 2013, 03:58 PM)
What we can think of the Suarez situation, LFC knows better. We're on top of the situation, interested club either pay up or shut up.  tongue.gif
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LFC is always open for interesting negotiation. Maybe RM pays 30mil, Suarez himself just need to cough up the additional 20mil since he is so eager to go. tongue.gif

Now dont say we didnt give him a chance. LOL
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QUOTE(wadefak @ Jun 18 2013, 01:56 PM)
nurture the player? yea right. remember what happened when Arsenal tried to "nurture" young players? lol
+999 for Cautinho. but seriously after all the talents that left the club, i'm afraid that he'll join the list one day. i think for the past 10 seasons, midfield players that i adore (Alonso, Meireles, Aquaman) tend to leave the club. trying my best to not adore Cautinho as much. maybe then he wont leave the club sweat.gif
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Its hard to ignore the link with Simon Mignolet, the Sunderland keeper, especially with each report inching closer to a done deal transfer to Anfield....which made Reina's earlier pledge to stay at Anfield further compound my already confused mind. Granted that Gulacsi left us earlier, but a 6-7 million signing is still consider a luxury if he is meant to provide competition to Reina....I guess Brad Jones have to kiss his 1st team chance goodbye....a pity too, as Jones improved quite a lot, especially match temperament....he is calmer in goal compared to his earlier matches, when its really scary watching him play and come for corners...he looks like he could fumble at any given time.....but improved he did..by heaps


Back to Mignolet, a player highly rated by the Belgians, and commended by fellow professional Joe Hart, @ 7 - 9 million depends on which report you refer to, is not exactly a huge amount by 1st teamer standard but still its a luxury signing if we are not in fact going to off load Reina....just wondering that isn't Jack Butland a better calculated risk @ 3.5 million when he moved to Stoke...well we have a tendency of missing out on promising young lads...Still Mignolet based on his value when he moved to Sunderland for no more than 2.5 million...represent more than 200% increase in value. Still I believe he possess the necessary quality, afterall, he kept Craig Gordon out of the 1st eleven, that itself is a testament of his potential...granted that Craig is still trouble by injury problem...but hey he did replaced the most expensive goalkeeper in the EPL @ 9 million - until that was shattered by De Gea transfer to MU...
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Breaking news : Liverpool pencil a medical for Luis Alberto! Yeah!

Another plus news. Henrikh M was caught signing autograph for Liverpool supporters. Will paste the pic tomoro.

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QUOTE(Chris Lam @ Jun 18 2013, 09:17 PM)
Breaking news : Liverpool pencil a medical for Luis Alberto! Yeah!

Another plus news. Henrikh M was caught signing autograph for Liverpool supporters. Will paste the pic tomoro.

What a nite
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confirmed!

http://www.lfconline.com/feat/ed11/mkhitar...961/index.shtml

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QUOTE(RyanHo @ Jun 18 2013, 09:22 PM)
Cool but i think 23M is a bit too much.
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QUOTE(kakashi44 @ Jun 18 2013, 09:30 PM)
Cool but i think 23M is a bit too much.
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QUOTE(RyanHo @ Jun 18 2013, 09:33 PM)
Not after we placed 35m on Carrol.
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he seems to have the pace where the (lumbering) carroll doesn't. Carroll has the physical build but he doesn't seem to use it much to better his advantage.

Henrikh does look a bit too slim to physical english football, no wait what's player we loaned but never took up (from Rmadrid to Dortmundfc)
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OU yeah...Henrik Mkh??????yan!
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LOL..No excuse for mispronouncing his name in the future.
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LOL..No excuse for mispronouncing his name in the future.
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Yup. Henri is doing medical and Oh Caroll has already completed his medical with West Ham. Wont be missing him that badly. biggrin.gif

http://www1.skysports.com/football/news/11685/8782106?
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watching Borini playing now..
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QUOTE(tiSSue_paPer @ Jun 19 2013, 12:21 AM)
watching Borini playing now..
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QUOTE(koolspyda @ Jun 18 2013, 10:01 PM)
he seems to have the pace where the (lumbering) carroll  doesn't. Carroll has the physical build but he doesn't seem to use it much to better his advantage.

Henrikh does look a bit too slim to physical english football, no wait what's player we loaned but never took up (from Rmadrid to Dortmundfc)
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Borini Scored! Im glad he managed to get something..looking so disjointed up front.

However, its too late. Spain are crushing Italy as we speak. The spanish kids are really talented.

Isco (wanted by City/Real), Tello, and Morata (Ohh..this Morata Real wanted too offload + cash for Suarez) looking really good upfront. Tiago (Wanted by utd) too was phenomenal.

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Has anyone seen this?

So, is this what Pepe is doing in his spare time?!? shocking.gif ohmy.gif LOL



http://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/sport/footb...e-reina-4025936

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i wonder how good is henrik guy is.. he look only know to score rather than creating chance... 0 assist in ucl and 7 in league not really that good
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Good luck trying to come up with a song for him
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QUOTE(dillonyong @ Jun 18 2013, 11:13 PM)
Yup. Henri is doing medical and Oh Caroll has already completed his medical with West Ham. Wont be missing him that badly. biggrin.gif

http://www1.skysports.com/football/news/11685/8782106?
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The football world's gone crazy when player like him can demand & GET 100k/week
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a real pity carroll was never given a chance by br. $20m loss in 2 years should be a hard lesson for everyone
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QUOTE(vreis @ Jun 19 2013, 10:14 AM)
Cant believe he can command GBP100k a week sweat.gif
The football world's gone crazy when player like him can demand & GET 100k/week
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He's got a sugar daddy in uncle Sammy.
He's only 23 or 24? He's going to be richer than beckham in time to come. biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(dillonyong @ Jun 19 2013, 10:24 AM)
He's got a sugar daddy in uncle Sammy.
He's only 23 or 24? He's going to be richer than beckham in time to come. biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(lerijiso @ Jun 19 2013, 03:35 AM)
Has anyone seen this?

So, is this what Pepe is doing in his spare time?!? shocking.gif ohmy.gif LOL



http://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/sport/footb...e-reina-4025936
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Kolo Toure (done)
Iago Aspas (done in principle)
Henrikh Mkhitaryan (rumoured done end of the week)
Luis Alberto (rumoured done end of the week)
Tiago Llori (pending)
Simon Mignolet (pending)
Christian Atsu (pending)

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the transfer window not open yet, and we're already in the process of concluding deals.
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QUOTE(Yluxion @ Jun 19 2013, 11:22 AM)
Kolo Toure (done)
Iago Aspas (done in principle)
Henrikh Mkhitaryan (rumoured done end of the week)
Luis Alberto (rumoured done end of the week)
Tiago Llori (pending)
Simon Mignolet (pending)
Christian Atsu (pending)

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the transfer window not open yet, and we're already in the process of concluding deals.
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i suppose they have learnt the lesson from last summer smile.gif

now where are the defenders?news on the greek and belgian guy just cool down so fast

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QUOTE(dillonyong @ Jun 18 2013, 12:46 PM)
We are REAL foolish if we sell Suarez for anything below 50mil. He has a long term contract with us. It's not 18 months, it's not 12 months. It is 50 odd months over left if I am not mistaken.

Not sure if the 40mil clause is real. If it is, then it is out of our hands but if not, then 50mil and not a penny less. Kick that in with goals and appearances fee. And that is the REAL price for other clubs.

For Real Madrid, 60mil and not a penny less only because we want to teach the bully not to bully. biggrin.gif
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35 Million + Alonso + Albiol
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QUOTE(bitebug @ Jun 19 2013, 12:56 PM)
35 Million + Alonso + Albiol
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albiol did not play regularly at real. Was he injured or just because there are better defender?
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QUOTE(jacckl @ Jun 19 2013, 10:23 AM)
a real pity carroll was never given a chance by br. $20m loss in 2 years should be a hard lesson for everyone
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AC is not mobile or quick enough for BR's tactics but he's a good old fashion player, during his time in Newcastle he reminds me very much of Alan Shearer. Too bad it didn't work out for him in Liverpool. Good luck to him in West Ham
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35 Million + Alonso + Albiol
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40m + Morata
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Gonna be a good 'rugby' match flex.gif Or maybe not biggrin.gif


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At least next season's starting 5 games not as tough as what we had at the start of 2012-13. But December is gonna be tough.
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Gonna be a good 'rugby' match  flex.gif Or maybe not  biggrin.gif
http://www.liverpoolfc.com/news/latest-new...xtures-revealed
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Am I the only one counting Suarez's return?

Capital One cup second round!
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away to man city and chelsea in 3 days time back to back.

Hi BR, more depth to squad pls
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QUOTE(bearbear @ Jun 19 2013, 04:23 PM)
away to man city and chelsea in 3 days time back to back.

Hi BR, more depth to squad pls
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Quick Update : Damn..Busy today

Transfer Updates
- Set for medical among the 3 so called confirmed deal
@ Alberto - Seville ask for 6.8mil but we offered 6mil pound. But we close to a compromise "Deal"
@ Mignolet - We r still holding out 1 million different from their valuation/Add-on's
@ Ilori - We r still holding out 1 million different from their valuation/Add-on's
It's done purely because the Reds want to keep the transfer fees as low as possible. Dam it.

Henrikh Mkhitarya
- The deal has not been done due to final valaution which those add on.
- He is a target but that deal will be much harder to broker than the others mentioned above.
- I believe we strike it at 20mil but the add on close to 23/24mil is something is holding back the completion.
- Agent fees does play apart.
- But we r trying to push thru the deal by the weekend
- Will update as soon as i got info.

Christian Atsu
- No 1 ever know him until this week the paper exposed out..
- Haha...
- i did it End on May.
- We submitted a 3mil bid whose has 12month running down his contract at Porto
- Bringing him to replace "DOWNING"

Another 2 Player To b Watch @ Balazs Dzsudzsak + Jefferson Farfan

Cheers.
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QUOTE(Chris Lam @ Jun 19 2013, 04:48 PM)
Quick Update : Damn..Busy today

Transfer Updates
- Set for medical among the 3 so called confirmed deal
@ Alberto - Seville ask for 6.8mil but we offered 6mil pound. But we close to a compromise "Deal"
@ Mignolet - We r still holding out 1 million different from their valuation/Add-on's
@ Ilori - We r still holding out 1 million different from their valuation/Add-on's
It's done purely because the Reds want to keep the transfer fees as low as possible. Dam it.

Henrikh Mkhitarya
- The deal has not been done due to final valaution which those add on.
- He is a target but that deal will be much harder to broker than the others mentioned above.
- I believe we strike it at 20mil but the add on close to 23/24mil is something is holding back the completion.
- Agent fees does play apart.
- But we r trying to push thru the deal by the weekend
- Will update as soon as i got info.

Christian Atsu
- No 1 ever know him until this week the paper exposed out..
- Haha...
- i did it End on May.
- We submitted a 3mil bid whose has 12month running down his contract at Porto
- Bringing him to replace "DOWNING"

Another 2 Player To b Watch @ Balazs Dzsudzsak + Jefferson Farfan

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Are you actually a scout from LFC? lol
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QUOTE(lerijiso @ Jun 19 2013, 05:23 PM)
He obviously is Ian Ayre's assistant..that's why he's so busy.
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The man would say he is just Chris Lam but I suspect he is Prophetjul's assistant. He took the prophet's Magic crystal ball. So this man can see the future. Don't play play. Lol. biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(Yluxion @ Jun 19 2013, 11:22 AM)
Kolo Toure (done)
Iago Aspas (done in principle)
Henrikh Mkhitaryan (rumoured done end of the week)
Luis Alberto (rumoured done end of the week)
Tiago Llori (pending)
Simon Mignolet (pending)
Christian Atsu (pending)

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the transfer window not open yet, and we're already in the process of concluding deals.
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i suppose they have learnt the lesson from last summer smile.gif

now where are the defenders?news on the greek and belgian guy just cool down so fast
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Alderweireld, on the other hand, nears Bayer move
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QUOTE(Yluxion @ Jun 19 2013, 11:22 AM)
Kolo Toure (done)
Iago Aspas (done in principle)
Henrikh Mkhitaryan (rumoured done end of the week)
Luis Alberto (rumoured done end of the week)
Tiago Llori (pending)
Simon Mignolet (pending)
Christian Atsu (pending)

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the transfer window not open yet, and we're already in the process of concluding deals.
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Good. The signings above shows that BR is learning quick from his predecessor's mistake and his earlier this season.

I have a good vibe this time on the players mentioned above and by Christadamus. Henrikh looks like a player we can use but I'm not so optimistic about Aspas.

Contrary to the views here, i have a hunch that Aspas is gonna turn out a dud but I hope I'm wrong.

That's the same hunch i have about Carroll, Henderson, Downing and Allen. whistling.gif

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Iago Aspas: Rather optimistic about him considering there are rumours linking him with top teams in La Liga, not too bad for a player playing for a relegation battling team. Statistics wise apparently he creates more chances than Messi and Ronaldo. It would be fair to think of him as La Liga's Benteke in which he single handedly saved a club from relegation (of course not comparing their playing style).

Luis Alberto: Sevilla might be asking a bit too much for my liking. His goal/assist statistics doesn't mean much considering it is only the second division where teams have awful defence. Does anyone wonder why Barca did not pick up their first option on him? Wonder why he wasn't selected for the u-21 squad? 6-8m seems a risky gamble to me.

Simon Mignolet: Am I the only one who doesn't want Pepe to leave? He has been nothing but a loyal servant to the club through and through. He did not once say that he wants to leave and neither did Barca say that they are interested in him, in fact Barca are linked with a host of other GKs. Spending close to 10m on a backup keeper when we have greater needs elsewhere is just stupid.

Luis Suarez: Don't want him to leave because we will need him to push back into top 4 even though I'm beginning to really dislike him. Don't think he will leave either since Real Madrid seem more interested in Cavani and Bale. If we do sell him though 40m plus Alvaro Morata or Jese Rodriguez would suffice.

Henrikh Mkhitaryan: Not really a playmaker type player as many would suggest. Doesn't have a good assist rate, only scored 1 goal against some weak CL side, passing rate dropped considerably when playing against stronger CL side (BVB, Juventus). But he reminds me a lot of Lampard in which he displays good positional awareness to get into open spaces behind defenders, very pacey and good finishing. At least he is gonna give us some scoring from midfield which we haven't had since Stevie's goals dried up. I personally prefer Christian Eriksen though, younger and cheaper since he is entering the final year of his contract but it seems BVB are more likely to land him.

Why haven't we targeted any left backs yet? Don't we only have Enrique for that position? Judging from last season, Jack Robinson is not ready for 1st team football yet and I would prefer to see Glen Johnson playing on the right.

What happened to the other centre backs we were linked with? Surely Kolo Toure isn't signed to play 1st team and Ilori is just a prospect. Papadoupoulos is in a similar mould to Skrtel (hard tackling no nonsense type), Alderweireld would be a great fit in our system since he can pass the ball really well.
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I am the only one that think that we had too many striker, attacking midfield and winger but lack of depth in defensive department
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I am the only one that think that we had too many striker, attacking midfield and winger but lack of depth in defensive department
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QUOTE(kakashi44 @ Jun 19 2013, 09:37 PM)
I am the only one that think that we had too many striker, attacking midfield and winger but lack of depth in defensive department
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We got Toure, Skrtel, Agger, Kelly, Coates, Wisdom tongue.gif
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QUOTE(dillonyong @ Jun 19 2013, 11:18 PM)
We got Toure, Skrtel, Agger, Kelly, Coates, Wisdom tongue.gif
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QUOTE(dikara10 @ Jun 19 2013, 04:00 PM)
After his performance during euro u-21, real might think again about this deal.
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QUOTE(Cloud0890 @ Jun 19 2013, 11:24 PM)
If reports are true, Skrtel and Coates are on their way out. Ilori to replace Coates and one more to replace Skrtel. We still need to strengthen left back position.
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We got Enrique, Downing, Robinson and even Agger can cover that area tongue.gif

Johnson as well.

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QUOTE(carloz28 @ Jun 19 2013, 07:19 PM)
Good. The signings above shows that BR is learning quick from his predecessor's mistake and his earlier this season.

I have a good vibe this time on the players mentioned above and by Christadamus. Henrikh looks like a player we can use but I'm not so optimistic about Aspas.

Contrary to the views here, i have a hunch that Aspas is gonna turn out a dud but I hope I'm wrong.

That's the same hunch i have about Carroll, Henderson, Downing and Allen. whistling.gif
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Had the same hunch as you, well I just made some assumption solely based on youtube videos.
He is just like another speedo type of players, more or less the same as Downing, I hope I am wrong too.

As for Henrikh, he is a good addition to our squad, given that our Stevie doesn't score as much as last time, Henrikh may contribute more goals from the midfield department.
But still I think its too expensive, he is not EPL proven.
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QUOTE(kakashi44 @ Jun 19 2013, 09:37 PM)
I am the only one that think that we had too many striker, attacking midfield and winger but lack of depth in defensive department
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I though attack is the best defense?  hmm.gif
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QUOTE(dillonyong @ Jun 19 2013, 11:28 PM)
We got Enrique, Downing, Robinson and even Agger can cover that area tongue.gif

Johnson as well.
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Robinson and Downing were terrible when played there last season. It is not Johnson's natural position after all. Moving Agger over there seem like an even worse decision considering he was our only decent centre back last season discounting Carra since he already retired.

What do you guys think of Christian Atsu? Looks like a (6m?) Sterling at best to me, very raw and not ready for first team action. Don't see why we should sign him when we have Sterling and Ibe coming up who doesn't look inferior to Atsu.
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QUOTE(dikara10 @ Jun 19 2013, 04:00 PM)
After his performance during euro u-21, real might think again about this deal.
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What do you mean? For or against the deal? biggrin.gif
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No bid for mkhitrayyan

Looks like what happen to dempsey last summer.
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QUOTE(Cloud0890 @ Jun 20 2013, 01:47 AM)
Robinson and Downing were terrible when played there last season. It is not Johnson's natural position after all. Moving Agger over there seem like an even worse decision considering he was our only decent centre back last season discounting Carra since he already retired.

What do you guys think of Christian Atsu? Looks like a (6m?) Sterling at best to me, very raw and not ready for first team action. Don't see why we should sign him when we have Sterling and Ibe coming up who doesn't look inferior to Atsu.
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I know. I was just saying if we dont have anyone coming in, we got enough cover. Plus, Downing got man of the match in one of the matches last season as leftback. Robinson, well maybe not, but time is needed to nurture the lad. Remember the times when he did perform decently?

Even Wisdom has his moment of horror. Still we gotta give them a chance.


BUT....if there are new signings thumbup.gif , then it's great. Dont know much about Atsu but I saw many rave reviews about him. Wouldnt mind addition to the team.

So far only CARRA has left. And we still have all the defenders plus Toure. With Kelly coming back, many may even find themselves without a seat on the bench.

I know all the feeling of frustration with Skrtel and Coates for I share the same feeling, but Skrtel was a rock for us for many years, i think the lad deserves another chance unless he wants to go. Coates, he was a star for Uruguay youth team, and so much rave reviews about him but never live it up. Not sure what to do with him. If he leaves, then we get a solid replacement.

Remember, it is hard to get someone in that are willing to sit on the bench and slug it out with Toure, Skrtel and Agger for a place in CB.
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AND Torres said it wasn't his decision and the truth will be revealed one day! He was right. Carra just revealed it. Disloyal and thinking about his own career is one thing, being a hypocrite in the aftermath is just unacceptable. SAY NO TO TORRES COMING BACK! vmad.gif

“Keeping unhappy players is an issue because we had that experience with Torres and keeping him wasn’t the right thing to do,” said Carragher.

Carragher witnessed at first hand how Torres reacted when he could not get a move away from Anfield before joining Chelsea for £50 million in January 2011.

“Torres wasn’t the same player for about 18 months and downed tools. It was a mistake to keep him.

“But with a character like Luis Suarez, I don’t think that would be an issue.

“And if the club were to keep him, I’m sure he would be as committed as ever.”

http://www.express.co.uk/sport/football/40...A+Sport+Feed%29
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QUOTE(dillonyong @ Jun 20 2013, 09:35 AM)
AND Torres said it wasn't his decision and the truth will be revealed one day! He was right. Carra just revealed it. Disloyal and thinking about his own career is one thing, being a hypocrite in the aftermath is just unacceptable. SAY NO TO TORRES COMING BACK!  vmad.gif

“Keeping unhappy players is an issue because we had that experience with Torres and keeping him wasn’t the right thing to do,” said Carragher.

Carragher witnessed at first hand how Torres reacted when he could not get a move away from Anfield before joining Chelsea for £50 million in January 2011.

“Torres wasn’t the same player for about 18 months and downed tools. It was a mistake to keep him.

“But with a character like Luis Suarez, I don’t think that would be an issue.

“And if the club were to keep him, I’m sure he would be as committed as ever.”

http://www.express.co.uk/sport/football/40...A+Sport+Feed%29
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well you can actually see from the treatment our defender Agger and Carra on him when he played against us. laugh.gif
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We got Toure, Skrtel, Agger, Kelly, Coates, Wisdom tongue.gif
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Last season skrtel and coates performance are shocking and I don't think skrtel are able to adapt to br system

Besides that on LB we only have 1 decent natural LB which is Enrique and I think we need a back up LB

Also on DM, we clearly do not have a back up for Lucas.
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QUOTE(kakashi44 @ Jun 20 2013, 10:21 AM)
Last season  skrtel and coates performance are shocking and I don't think skrtel are able to adapt to br system

Besides that on LB we only have 1 decent natural LB which is Enrique and I think we need a back up LB

Also on DM, we clearly do not have a back up for Lucas.
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True..I often forget that we don't have a proper DM..even Lucas is a convert. We don't have cover for him.

Need a cover for Enrique...and we need at least two more CBs. Can't expect Agger to be fit all season and Kolo to play everygame.
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well you can actually see from the treatment our defender Agger and Carra on him when he played against us.  laugh.gif
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QUOTE(kakashi44 @ Jun 20 2013, 10:21 AM)
Last season  skrtel and coates performance are shocking and I don't think skrtel are able to adapt to br system

Besides that on LB we only have 1 decent natural LB which is Enrique and I think we need a back up LB

Also on DM, we clearly do not have a back up for Lucas.
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You know I am a firm believer in 2nd chances. I dont believe in condemning a person immediately once he fails you. If we use the same brutal tactic every season, Lucas would have been long gone.

I was very wrong about Lucas many years ago. Let's hope we wont be wrong about Skrtel and Coates many years later.
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Cardiff have agreed to meet Blackpool’s £8million asking price for winger Tom Ince but face competition from rivals Swansea for Lyon striker Bafetimbi Gomis.

The Premier League newcomers are prepared to pay the figure Blackpool quoted to Crystal Palace for Ince, which includes a guaranteed fee up front plus add-ons. It is still far from certain that Ince will move to South Wales, however, with Liverpool having an option to match any bid for him under the terms of his move to Blackpool from Anfield two years ago.

Liverpool also have a 35 per cent sell-on clause which means they could sign the 21-year-old for an initial figure of just over £5m. There has been less interest in Ince’s Blackpool team-mate Matt Phillips, however, with Hull the only club to make an enquiry.

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/...l#ixzz2WinxT3rp
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Aspas
- He will hit the ground & running. Enough said. X debate. He's Suarez MK2 type.

Alberto
- Even Thiago Alcantara can't get playing time in Barca
- Y they want to take him back & alberto goin there & playing in the reserves?
- Alberto stat's speaks.
- Do U know what Coutinho can do before he came? That's Y.
- Largely many of u guys dunno Coutinho but he was given a start at 17/18 in Inter during benitez regime. He was "Good".
- Just rafa was sack & Coutinho was not favor back then that engineer the moved to anfield in january. He worth 20mil now!
- All signings r signed based on numerous scout reports & BR or his No.2 will make a personnel visit to check them out.
- IF they r happy what they see...BR will have a say.
- Even if he goes to U21..he wont b played. FYI..Spain u21 Teamsheet n Subs almost the same personnel. Just like the senior side
- Spain's got tons of talent Gems at their disposal.
- Some get their chance..some don't. That's Life.
I've faith in Alberto. Another blessing in disguise.Anyway..He's up for the medical at the weekend.

Henrikh Mkhitaryan
- Told u guys the deal is not done yet coz it's kinda hard to broke a deal with Shaktar.
- But we r hopefully that a compromise deal will be meet very soon hope by the weekend else next week.
- After all he's our primary target.

Papa
- We r still hopeful signing him despite his valuation
- Good thing is we r the only team that offer a concrete offer
- We r pending for then to drop the asking price
- So more news to follow

Toby Alderweireld
- Good news.
- Leverkusen not willing to meet his wages demand. Except Toby drop it else the deal may not go thru.
- If the deal is off. Liverpool will pounce.
- Due to the lowe transfer fees where he has 12months left..The wages should not b a problem for Us.
- Finger Crossed!

Downing
- He may not b exciting to watch
- He may not score & create alot
- But he's as hardworking as henderson whenever he was on the the pitch
- Sometimes we need this kind of players
- But reality check. We need an upgrade in that area & FSG is slashing down those top earners...
- So won't b suprise we force him out of the door soon.

Reina
- Another top earner in the squad
- I also x 1 him to go but if Barca really came in to offer him...
- I wont blame him if he leaves

Robinson
- 1 of the best youth product that came out form our academy for the past 10 years
- Made his senior debut at the age of 16 years and 250 days. He was the youngest back then.
- Now..he's 20.
- Last year only Sterling, Suso, Ibe & Sinclair make their debut coz i can see they r something above the rest.
- I dont see that in Flanagan & Wisdom
- I dunno y critic bombing him when at Oldhan 1 of his worst game. But guys. Not only him..All the guys like shit that day.
- I'm gutted he didnt get to start at LB when enrigue is out.
- BR. If u say u need 2 players every position. Pls mind ur words & start ROBO when Enrique is not playing. He deserve a chance!
- There's only a few youth English LB that have that talent nowadays & i'm GLAD he's wearing a LFC jersey.

Carroll
- I don't want him to leaved.
- He just came to Anfield at the wrong time.
- Always will remember all the wonder goals & performance that he score my heart.
- Wish him all the best.
- Cheers Carroll!

solstice818 : Yes..we do have the clause yet BR seems to taken out his interest after faoil to sign him in January. No news on him in my side.

Enough Said. Back to work.
Chris L.

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the armenian rumour is just a rumor... wat a lol
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the armenian rumour is just a rumor... wat a lol
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It is all but a rumor until July 1 sets in. biggrin.gif

Btw we already signed someone! biggrin.gif

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/...istol-City.html - This is not a rumor. LOL
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QUOTE(Chris Lam @ Jun 20 2013, 11:49 AM)
Aspas
- He will hit the ground & running. Enough said. X debate. He's Suarez MK2 type.

Alberto
- All signings r signed based on numerous scout reports & BR or his No.2 will make a personnel visit to check them out.
- IF they r happy what they see...BR will have a say.
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hmm.gif His No.2..I wonder who that is?! tongue.gif

Anyway..what is MK2? I see it being used all the time but i have no idea what it actually derives from.

Can someone please explain this internet slang to me? Mortal Kombat II?
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QUOTE(lerijiso @ Jun 20 2013, 12:46 PM)
hmm.gif His No.2..I wonder who that is?! tongue.gif

Anyway..what is MK2? I see it being used all the time but i have no idea what it actually derives from.

Can someone please explain this internet slang to me? Mortal Kombat II?
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What's the point of having internet connection if you can't even bother to Google man. sad.gif

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mark_II
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Alberto:
- Barca's refusal to pickup option on him implies that he is no better than their current crop.
- If you were to look at Spain's national squad, almost all of the bigger names have gotten numerous caps in u-21.
- Alberto has only made 1 u-21 appearance so it basically means he is not as good as many other youngsters in the country and is likely to not be an important player for the national team in the future.
- Not saying he is bad or he will not turn out good, just saying the asking price is a tad too much for an unproven kid who's only real experience is Segunda Division.
- Let's not compare him with Coutinho, Coutinho has played quite a number of first team football in Brazil, Italy and Spain. He is also very highly rated amongst Brazilian youngsters racking up numerous caps and winning an u-17 competition for Brazil in the process.
- Alberto much more unproven than Coutinho.

Mkhitaryan:
- Hope we can conclude the deal soon, this guy looks the real deal.
- I still prefer Christian Eriksen though, what do you guys think about him?

Downing:
- Was decent for the 2nd half of the season but if he is earning wages as reported in the media we should sell him to shed some wage bill.
- Don't see much playing opportunity for him next season.

Ince:
- Typical overrated/overpriced youngster.

Robinson:
- Glad to have him too but he is just not ready for first team action.
- Would love to see him loaned out to another side in the top flight.
- Let's not forget how defensive mistakes have cost us games last season. It's been 4 seasons since CL football, if we don't get back in soon the financial gap will widen further and further.
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QUOTE(Cloud0890 @ Jun 20 2013, 01:29 PM)
- Let's not forget how defensive mistakes have cost us games last season. It's been 4 seasons since CL football, if we don't get back in soon the financial gap will widen further and further.
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I really feel next season is the real deal for us. I got a feeling that we will do more than just qualifying for CL. Let's hope I am right. biggrin.gif

I predict, Liverpool will finish in 3rd place, possibly winning a cup while Man City will sack the manager in January creating a turmoil, Spurs will drop back to reality just like Newcastle and Arse also in trouble. tongue.gif

If we can get Suarez to stay, then what a season is gonna be for us. biggrin.gif

And, Maureen will win the Premier League with Chelsea. Afterall, he's Maureen biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(lerijiso @ Jun 20 2013, 01:46 PM)
Lol..thanks. Homer Simpson's reaction just made it worse..im ashamed of myself. blush.gif
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QUOTE(dillonyong @ Jun 20 2013, 01:43 PM)
I really feel next season is the real deal for us. I got a feeling that we will do more than just qualifying for CL. Let's hope I am right. biggrin.gif

I predict, Liverpool will finish in 3rd place, possibly winning a cup while Man City will sack the manager in January creating a turmoil, Spurs will drop back to reality just like Newcastle and Arse also in trouble. tongue.gif

If we can get Suarez to stay, then what a season is gonna be for us. biggrin.gif

And, Maureen will win the Premier League with Chelsea. Afterall, he's Maureen biggrin.gif
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Seems like you also can predict the future... whistling.gif

I think Spurs will be thereabouts again next season if Bale isn't sold. Still a long way to go before season starts anyway..lots of coming-ins and going-outs until the end of August. It's a good sign that BR is doing his transfer business early though. At least let the team gel as much as possible with the new players during pre-season.
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QUOTE(8sg9ft @ Jun 20 2013, 02:15 PM)
Seems like you also can predict the future... whistling.gif

I think Spurs will be thereabouts again next season if Bale isn't sold. Still a long way to go before season starts anyway..lots of coming-ins and going-outs until the end of August. It's a good sign that BR is doing his transfer business early though. At least let the team gel as much as possible with the new players during pre-season.
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For Spurs, just a feeling that a drop is near for them. I also predicted Newcastle will fall last season. I was right. biggrin.gif


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I'm not convinced we have what it takes to break into the top four next season. I reckon a top 6 finish will be an achievement, with a top 5 finish not being beyond the realms of possibility. What matters most to me is that we maintain a convincing home record and we are more clinical in converting chances that come our way. Unlike the top sides, we seldom get all 3 points when being outplayed. Winning ugly is something we need to learn to do. We're linked with young, promising players that have come off good seasons but one season isn't an indicator of consistency.
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I've noted that Glen Johnson is in the last year of his contract with us and he's voiced his desire to play abroad in Spain before retiring. It's been rumoured that Andre Wisdom may be shipped out on loan which is a matter of concern as he was Johnson's backup last season with Kelly out. If Johnson does leave at the end of least season, it stands to reason that we blood his successor this coming season.
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Bold predictions indeed dillonyong. hmm.gif

Seen too many of those over the years, will be happy if we had a decent cup run and end up near the top of the chasing pack.

As for the in and outs, I don't really know much about the names linked to us really. My only wish is that we ship out Suarez for a princely sum, world class player yes, but an embarrassment to the club in my opinion.
With Carra having hung up his boots, I'd be the first to admit that i feel rather detached from LFC at the moment sad.gif

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Alberto:
- Barca's refusal to pickup option on him implies that he is no better than their current crop.
- If you were to look at Spain's national squad, almost all of the bigger names have gotten numerous caps in u-21.
- Alberto has only made 1 u-21 appearance so it basically means he is not as good as many other youngsters in the country and is likely to not be an important player for the national team in the future.
- Not saying he is bad or he will not turn out good, just saying the asking price is a tad too much for an unproven kid who's only real experience is Segunda Division.
- Let's not compare him with Coutinho, Coutinho has played quite a number of first team football in Brazil, Italy and Spain. He is also very highly rated amongst Brazilian youngsters racking up numerous caps and winning an u-17 competition for Brazil in the process.
- Alberto much more unproven than Coutinho.

Mkhitaryan:
- Hope we can conclude the deal soon, this guy looks the real deal.
- I still prefer Christian Eriksen though, what do you guys think about him?

Downing:
- Was decent for the 2nd half of the season but if he is earning wages as reported in the media we should sell him to shed some wage bill.
- Don't see much playing opportunity for him next season.

Ince:
- Typical overrated/overpriced youngster.

Robinson:
- Glad to have him too but he is just not ready for first team action.
- Would love to see him loaned out to another side in the top flight.
- Let's not forget how defensive mistakes have cost us games last season. It's been 4 seasons since CL football, if we don't get back in soon the financial gap will widen further and further.
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agreed on Alberto part...i dont remember him playing UEFA u-21 final v Italy the other day where Alcantara scored a hattrick..he and Alcantara are miles apart in terms of development..and i dare to say that Fabio Borini is a much more developed player than him..but thats doesnt mean he's not a good player..hope we'll give him time to develop coz he is talented..that part nobody cant deny it
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QUOTE(Cloud0890 @ Jun 20 2013, 01:29 PM)
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Alberto:
- Barca's refusal to pickup option on him implies that he is no better than their current crop.
- If you were to look at Spain's national squad, almost all of the bigger names have gotten numerous caps in u-21.
- Alberto has only made 1 u-21 appearance so it basically means he is not as good as many other youngsters in the country and is likely to not be an important player for the national team in the future.
- Not saying he is bad or he will not turn out good, just saying the asking price is a tad too much for an unproven kid who's only real experience is Segunda Division.
- Let's not compare him with Coutinho, Coutinho has played quite a number of first team football in Brazil, Italy and Spain. He is also very highly rated amongst Brazilian youngsters racking up numerous caps and winning an u-17 competition for Brazil in the process.
- Alberto much more unproven than Coutinho.

Mkhitaryan:
- Hope we can conclude the deal soon, this guy looks the real deal.
- I still prefer Christian Eriksen though, what do you guys think about him?

Downing:
- Was decent for the 2nd half of the season but if he is earning wages as reported in the media we should sell him to shed some wage bill.
- Don't see much playing opportunity for him next season.

Ince:
- Typical overrated/overpriced youngster.

Robinson:
- Glad to have him too but he is just not ready for first team action.
- Would love to see him loaned out to another side in the top flight.
- Let's not forget how defensive mistakes have cost us games last season. It's been 4 seasons since CL football, if we don't get back in soon the financial gap will widen further and further.
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agreed on Alberto part...i dont remember him playing UEFA u-21 final v Italy the other day where Alcantara scored a hattrick..he and Alcantara are miles apart in terms of development..and i dare to say that Fabio Borini is a much more developed player than him..but thats doesnt mean he's not a good player..hope we'll give him time to develop coz he is talented..that part nobody cant deny it
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QUOTE(madmoz @ Jun 20 2013, 02:52 PM)
Bold predictions indeed dillonyong. hmm.gif

Seen too many of those over the years, will be happy if we had a decent cup run and end up near the top of the chasing pack.
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Indeed. I dare to predict. The MC team has a new manager, MU as well. Chelsea will do well with Maureen. Arse is a sinking ship waiting to happen. They have been flirting with drop for a while now. Spurs, aint got no worry if no Bale.

So this is it. We must seize this chance with Suarez (If he is still around), Sturridge, Aspas, Coutinho combination with Gerrard, Lucas.

This is our best chance.
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Mmm bit over the top to claim that Arsenal are a sinking ship. Despite a slow start to the season, they ended up in fourth, only 5 points behind 2nd placed City. Veteran manager, healthy financially, strong squad with promising young players coming through the ranks. Don't see any indication of them falling off the pace if I'm to be honest.
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QUOTE(dillonyong @ Jun 20 2013, 01:54 PM)
I wanted to tell him to calm down. After all, forum is for people to converse and ask question. biggrin.gif

If nobody ask question and converse, then the forum is dead. biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(Duke Red @ Jun 20 2013, 03:39 PM)
Mmm bit over the top to claim that Arsenal are a sinking ship. Despite a slow start to the season, they ended up in fourth, only 5 points behind 2nd placed City. Veteran manager, healthy financially, strong squad with promising young players coming through the ranks. Don't see any indication of them falling off the pace if I'm to be honest.
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Captain Wenger will always find a way to keep the ship afloat.
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We're much more establish now under BR, I reckon we could break the 70 points mark next season. If BR's plan pans out as he wishes, such as adding 20 more goals to the team, more depth and competition to the squad, then we're really in a good position to get back into Champions League that we've missed for years.

A lot of upcoming players are going to fight hard to get into their national team for the coming World Cup. Especially Coutinho, he could be going 'gung-ho' and dictates our offensive play next season. nod.gif
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QUOTE(Duke Red @ Jun 20 2013, 03:39 PM)
Mmm bit over the top to claim that Arsenal are a sinking ship. Despite a slow start to the season, they ended up in fourth, only 5 points behind 2nd placed City. Veteran manager, healthy financially, strong squad with promising young players coming through the ranks. Don't see any indication of them falling off the pace if I'm to be honest.
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Agreed. They've had slow starts the past 2 seasons and yet they made it into the top 4. Squad is not as strong as it used to be but yeah they've got some young and promising players. Plus, with old Arsene still there don't see them getting into trouble in the first half of the season again especially if they don't lose their best players. The only team that I feel like they might fall off the pace is Everton. With a new manager and the possibility of losing Fellaini and Baines to bigger clubs, things might not look too good for them. But you never know, Martinez might come up with his own shrewd signings.

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QUOTE(Duke Red @ Jun 20 2013, 03:39 PM)
Mmm bit over the top to claim that Arsenal are a sinking ship. Despite a slow start to the season, they ended up in fourth, only 5 points behind 2nd placed City. Veteran manager, healthy financially, strong squad with promising young players coming through the ranks. Don't see any indication of them falling off the pace if I'm to be honest.
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It's a bold prediction but it may happen because Arse's squad is weakened and other teams are getting stronger and stronger.
This time, the Captain may just lose his plot for the chasing.

Next season gotta be it for us. Once they steady the ships with their new managers and that's gonna be even tougher for us.
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QUOTE(dillonyong @ Jun 20 2013, 11:58 AM)
It is all but a rumor until July 1 sets in. biggrin.gif

Btw we already signed someone! biggrin.gif

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/...istol-City.html - This is not a rumor. LOL
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QUOTE(Cloud0890 @ Jun 20 2013, 01:29 PM)
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Alberto:
- Barca's refusal to pickup option on him implies that he is no better than their current crop.
- If you were to look at Spain's national squad, almost all of the bigger names have gotten numerous caps in u-21.
- Alberto has only made 1 u-21 appearance so it basically means he is not as good as many other youngsters in the country and is likely to not be an important player for the national team in the future.
- Not saying he is bad or he will not turn out good, just saying the asking price is a tad too much for an unproven kid who's only real experience is Segunda Division.
- Let's not compare him with Coutinho, Coutinho has played quite a number of first team football in Brazil, Italy and Spain. He is also very highly rated amongst Brazilian youngsters racking up numerous caps and winning an u-17 competition for Brazil in the process.
- Alberto much more unproven than Coutinho.

Mkhitaryan:
- Hope we can conclude the deal soon, this guy looks the real deal.
- I still prefer Christian Eriksen though, what do you guys think about him?

Downing:
- Was decent for the 2nd half of the season but if he is earning wages as reported in the media we should sell him to shed some wage bill.
- Don't see much playing opportunity for him next season.

Ince:
- Typical overrated/overpriced youngster.

Robinson:
- Glad to have him too but he is just not ready for first team action.
- Would love to see him loaned out to another side in the top flight.
- Let's not forget how defensive mistakes have cost us games last season. It's been 4 seasons since CL football, if we don't get back in soon the financial gap will widen further and further.
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- The only one hyping up on Luis Alberto is Seville, & they're the selling club. doh.gif

- Prefer Eriksen but if I'm him, I'll go Dortmund, CL team, Bundesliga challengers, pivot of a young team which he wont get as Gerrard is ard.

- Downing like Henderson didn't do justice to their hype/talent/price tag. At least Henderson is young & showing signs of getting his confidence back. Downing, if there's takers, selling him will be a good option.

Ince - couldn't agree more with you.

Robinson - seems his growth rather stagnant for couple of seasons....not sure whether loan will do him good as he's been on loan for last season as well. question is can he up his game a level to Reds requirement? or just a Championship team level?


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QUOTE(dillonyong @ Jun 20 2013, 02:58 PM)
Mr. Mad. Long time no see biggrin.gif

Indeed. I dare to predict. The MC team has a new manager, MU as well. Chelsea will do well with Maureen. Arse is a sinking ship waiting to happen. They have been flirting with drop for a while now. Spurs, aint got no worry if no Bale.

So this is it. We must seize this chance with Suarez (If he is still around), Sturridge, Aspas, Coutinho combination with Gerrard, Lucas.

This is our best chance.
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Arsenal will defo challenge for top4 thats no argument. Used to think spurs just like Newcastle, one season wonder, but the Lilywhites been challenging consistently now, just badluck they din get into CL for the past 2 seasons.

Think at most we'll be in top 5. rather soon to challenge for top 4
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QUOTE(vreis @ Jun 20 2013, 04:54 PM)
Arsenal will defo challenge for top4 thats no argument. Used to think spurs just like Newcastle, one season wonder, but the Lilywhites been challenging consistently now, just badluck they din get into CL for the past 2 seasons.

Think at most we'll be in top 5. rather soon to challenge for top 4
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Just my gut feeling. Like how I predicted the matches scoreline. If I am right, we are all going to have a good season finally biggrin.gif. It's been long overdue.
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For those talking about how there aren't many marquee names Liverpool is linked and that we are buying players that are relatively unknown (at least to us anyway), here is a very good article by Paul Tomkins with stats to show how marquee signings have fared compared to the relative unknowns from 1994 to 2011 in Liverpool.

Tomkins: Buying & Selling Smart
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but our record signing was rather unknown outside Tyneside
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I expect things to turn around for Allen, Borini, Assaidi and even Shelvey or it may be Bye Bye to them in January or next summer.

So hopefully they will work hard and push for 1st team and in the process, get us into top 4.
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This is apparently THE summer in which Arsene will finally splash the cash. Higuain hmm?

Man City signing Fernandinho, linked with the likes of Isco, Cavani.

Chelsea with The Happy One back.

Top four, I don't feel optimistic with our chances. Top 5 is good enough for me but that will likely be the last straw for Suarez. Fingers Crossed.

If Suarez were to leave, who are we gonna replace him with? Benteke is one who would fit the bill for me. Can't really think of anyone else at the moment.
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QUOTE(Cloud0890 @ Jun 20 2013, 05:30 PM)
This is apparently THE summer in which Arsene will finally splash the cash. Higuain hmm?

Man City signing Fernandinho, linked with the likes of Isco, Cavani.

Chelsea with The Happy One back.

Top four, I don't feel optimistic with our chances. Top 5 is good enough for me but that will likely be the last straw for Suarez. Fingers Crossed.

If Suarez were to leave, who are we gonna replace him with? Benteke is one who would fit the bill for me. Can't really think of anyone else at the moment.
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Ah Ben is good but let's watch him for 1 more season. Afterall, Papiss Cisse was good for half a season and then subsequently massive drop of form.

Realistically, top 5 or top 6 is good for everyone here but it is just my gut feeling that we can do better.


Dont get me wrong GUYS! biggrin.gif I know I know. Dont be too optimistic and raise hope. I am a speculator. biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(dillonyong @ Jun 20 2013, 05:21 PM)
I expect things to turn around for Allen, Borini, Assaidi and even Shelvey or it may be Bye Bye to them in January or next summer.

So hopefully they will work hard and push for 1st team and in the process, get us into top 4.
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If we did get Atsu, Mkhitaryan and Alberto our midfield will be crowded and I think Assaidi and Shelvey will be leaving this summer either loan or permanent transfer. There had been rumor that both of them unhappy with the lack of 1st team action and rumor that Assaidi is going for a season loan and Norwich is interested in Shelvey buying Shelvey. I do like both of them and believe that they had good potential but i don't think they are going to stay beyond this summer.

As for Borini I do look forward to see what he could offer if he is place in center forward position as he did well with Italy U-21 and last season he occasionally is showing good position sense. I do believe last season he was unlucky with injury and he is play out of position most of the time.

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My 2 new jerseys. Paying tribute to the heart and soul of Liverpool FC.

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QUOTE(kakashi44 @ Jun 20 2013, 07:18 PM)
If we did get Atsu, Mkhitaryan and Alberto our midfield will be crowded and I think Assaidi and Shelvey will be leaving this summer either loan or permanent transfer. There had been rumor that both of them unhappy with the lack of 1st team action and rumor that Assaidi is going for a season loan and Norwich is interested in Shelvey buying Shelvey. I do like both of them and believe that they had good potential but i don't think they are going to stay beyond this summer.

As for Borini I do look forward to see what he could offer if he is place in center forward position as he did well with Italy U-21 and last season he occasionally is showing good position sense. I do believe last season he was unlucky with injury and he is play out of position most of the time.
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QUOTE(skulless @ Jun 20 2013, 07:22 PM)
My 2 new jerseys. Paying tribute to the heart and soul of Liverpool FC.

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Are those the new kits? Is the white with Carra on the back the tyre-track away kit?

-That Spoiler doh.gif Are they selling it like that or someone did make a special order for it?

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Asmir Begovic is odds on to leave Stoke City and join Liverpool this summer
Simon Mignolet is joining as well.
http://bettinglatest.com/asmir-begivic-is-...is-summer/21484?

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Dont you think we will have too many goalkeepers? WHat are we doing? Putting 2 goalkeepers guarding the post? biggrin.gif

--------Suarez-Sturridge-------
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------Gerrard----Coutinho-----
Enrique-Agger-Toure-Johnson
------Begovic--Reina------------

????? LOL biggrin.gif

Like that we are definitely gonna win the Premier League. thumbup.gif

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QUOTE(dillonyong @ Jun 20 2013, 09:02 PM)
Asmir Begovic is odds on to leave Stoke City and join Liverpool this summer
Simon Mignolet is joining as well.
http://bettinglatest.com/asmir-begivic-is-...is-summer/21484?

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Dont you think we will have too many goalkeepers? WHat are we doing? Putting 2 goalkeepers guarding the post? biggrin.gif

--------Suarez-Sturridge-------
------------Mkhitaryan----------
------Gerrard----Coutinho-----
Enrique-Agger-Toure-Johnson
------Begovic--Reina------------

????? LOL biggrin.gif

Like that we are definitely gonna win the Premier League.  thumbup.gif
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Only if Reina is set to leave, if not why link with so many GK?

Liv weakness is not at keeper position.
Even Brad Jones deputy well (not superb but also not bad) when Reina is injured time last season.
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Bro, where do you get the gold numbering and name? In Al Ikhsan?
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Why we didnt join in the race to sign Higuan? I like him...Would be a good replacement for Suarez if the latter leaves
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QUOTE(lerijiso @ Jun 20 2013, 08:09 PM)
Are those the new kits? Is the white with Carra on the back the tyre-track away kit?

-That Spoiler doh.gif Are they selling it like that or someone did make a special order for it?
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It's the new GK kit. I cant see myself wearing that ugly away kit. Of course someone ordered it, LOL, the owner is a Red through and through. He can't believe it himself when they guy told him to make it. Maybe his name is Suarez too.

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Why we didnt join in the race to sign Higuan? I like him...Would be a good replacement for Suarez if the latter leaves
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Because he would cost in excess of 130k in wages a week if reports are true. Don't think our current wage structure allows for this kind of money.
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I for one am sad that AC is leaving. Always liked him and his potential (AND size!) but I do understand that he isn't a good fit with our current philosophies. Was also too expensive to keep as plan B.

But having a traditional English centre forward to lump long direct balls to has its merits at times, and hopefully we'll be able to find a cheap like for like replacement. Lol, finding a traditional English style player in, well... England shouldn't be that hard!

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As for goalies, it has always been our approach of late to sign a clutch of highly rated youngsters or up n coming guys and see if anyone turns out good enough to challenge PR. No idea why we keep doing this really.
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The 30-year-old has left the door open to an Anfield exit but said he intends to stay.

"My situation is clear. I have a three-year contract with Liverpool, although in football you can never tell," he told Spanish radio station Onda Cero.

"I'm very happy and satisfied at Liverpool, I feel valued and respected.

"Logically, if there was a chance to improve and go to a bigger club it would be a good opportunity, although there are few clubs bigger than Liverpool."

In an interview with Spanish newspaper El Confidencial Reina added: "In principle my plan is to continue with Liverpool.

"I have three years left on my contract and I want to fulfil that and even go further."

Asked whether he thought his time in the Premier League had come to an end Reina, currently on international duty at the Confederations Cup in Brazil, replied: "I don't think so. Nor do I think that is a possibility.

"The best option for my family is for me to stick with Liverpool."

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"Martin to move away from Liverpool? I specifically say that Skrtel has never said he wants to go away, then it depends on the Liverpool market because everything could change," he told Tuttomercatoweb.

"It's true that the last two seasons were difficult but in football it can happen.

"Napoli? I think they haven't the financial possibilities to take him. Liverpool has not decided a price because they don't intend to sell the player. Anyway, I don't think that Napoli can afford his wage."

Looks like Skrtel is staying put.
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QUOTE(dillonyong @ Jun 20 2013, 09:02 PM)
Asmir Begovic is odds on to leave Stoke City and join Liverpool this summer
Simon Mignolet is joining as well.
Begovic is the bookies choice but going by what's reported in the media, Mignolet looks the most likely. Begovic has more admirers and we'll face stiff competition from the likes of Arsenal who can offer Champions League football. On the issue of Arsenal, it looks like your prediction just got bolder with them linked to Higuain smile.gif They won't falter la. People say that of them each season and each time, they prove their doubters wrong. Anyway, I'm hoping you're right of course. Less competition the better.


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didnt begovic state a couple weeks ago that he was happy at stoke?
oh wait, pepe has said that too whistling.gif
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QUOTE(Duke Red @ Jun 21 2013, 09:25 AM)
Begovic is the bookies choice but going by what's reported in the media, Mignolet looks the most likely. Begovic has more admirers and we'll face stiff competition from the likes of Arsenal who can offer Champions League football. On the issue of Arsenal, it looks like your prediction just got bolder with them linked to Higuain smile.gif They won't falter la. People say that of them each season and each time, they prove their doubters wrong. Anyway, I'm hoping you're right of course. Less competition the better.
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Just a gut feeling, Duke. I feel our revival cause is near and somebody has to fall to give way biggrin.gif
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Just a gut feeling, Duke. I feel our revival cause is near and somebody has to fall to give way biggrin.gif
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I'd much rather your gut tell you that Moyes will screw up much as I think he'll rise to the task.
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I'd much rather your gut tell you that Moyes will screw up much as I think he'll rise to the task.
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Oh he will. But i feel he will finish as runner-up, while we and MC will be not far behind him and Maureen will win it with Chelsea. biggrin.gif

So you see Bro, Arse/Spurs have got to fall to comply to my speculation biggrin.gif
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Great la. I've already learned to spell and pronunciate "Mkhitaryan" but it seems signing for Liverpool isn't that simple for our marquee target.

http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/tra...an-move-1972490?
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A season of bandwagoning Lin and Houston Rockets was an eye opener to the American approach to professional sports wor and possibly a better understanding of moneyball.

Like the salary cap idea, but understand that it is impossible to implement in footie, but also warmed up to the idea of buying 'stats' and 'production' instead of players.

I.e. it isn't AC that I really want, it is his height and the options he brings. Now go get a cheap replacement.

Somehow less attached to the individual players now, be that a good or a bad thing.
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QUOTE(madmoz @ Jun 21 2013, 10:46 AM)
A season of bandwagoning Lin and Houston Rockets was an eye opener to the American approach to professional sports wor and possibly a better understanding of moneyball.

Like the salary cap idea, but understand that it is impossible to implement in footie, but also warmed up to the idea of buying 'stats' and 'production' instead of players.

I.e. it isn't AC that I really want, it is his height and the options he brings. Now go get a cheap replacement.

Somehow less attached to the individual players now, be that a good or a bad thing.
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The last player I felt a connection to was Carra. I mean he epitomised everything a role model should be. When news of Suarez wanting to leave got out, I honestly felt nothing. Why? Yeah he was the darling of the team last season, scoring for fun but I can't foster a connection with someone who I see as being petulant. I'll miss his goals though. I see the merit in buying stats especially when you are unfamiliar with players from far flung regions of the world but I still think it's important to invest in character and personality. There are things away from the pitch which require players who can influence the dressing room positively.
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QUOTE(Duke Red @ Jun 21 2013, 11:01 AM)
The last player I felt a connection to was Carra. I mean he epitomised everything a role model should be. When news of Suarez wanting to leave got out, I honestly felt nothing. Why? Yeah he was the darling of the team last season, scoring for fun but I can't foster a connection with someone who I see as being petulant. I'll miss his goals though. I see the merit in buying stats especially when you are unfamiliar with players from far flung regions of the world but I still think it's important to invest in character and personality. There are things away from the pitch which require players who can influence the dressing room positively.
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You're right. MU has that character in abundance in them. That's why they are a class above. Man City has the least. At least Chelsea still have JT and gang and Maureen will unite them all.
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Carra interview.

http://www.digitalspy.co.uk/media/intervie...-treatment.html
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QUOTE(Duke Red @ Jun 21 2013, 11:06 AM)
I was reading this and then I saw this:


Three Tips To Drive Beautiful Women Wild
http://www.lolfanatic.com/why-we-settle-fo...ar-women/?imt=1

Gotta admit, this is more interesting. biggrin.gif rclxms.gif
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QUOTE(dillonyong @ Jun 21 2013, 11:06 AM)
You're right. MU has that character in abundance in them. That's why they are a class above. Man City has the least. At least Chelsea still have JT and gang and Maureen will unite them all.
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Carra retiring leaves a bigger hole in the team that some realise. It isn't merely about his ability as a defender though many of his critics last season singled him out for that. Yes he's gotten older and as expected he had dropped off the pace. With Carra gone however, we have lost a great general at the back. Carra was constantly barking at his defenders, marshaling his line to great effect. I'm hoping Toure's experience in this department will rub off on the lads at the back.

Carra wasn't just an inspirational figure on the field, that many young lads looked up to but he was a source of motivation. I've read many interviews where younger players, foreign and domestic would praise Carra for his coaching. Such was his stature that John Flanagan was visibility shaken after he had accidentally injured Carra as they both went in for a challenge. Kenny had to pull the youngster aside to share a laugh, hoping to help him shake it off.

Another big influence in the dressing room is Pepe Reina and I'm hoping he'll stay.
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Time for Agger to step up as THE leader at the back.
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QUOTE(dillonyong @ Jun 21 2013, 11:06 AM)
You're right. MU has that character in abundance in them. That's why they are a class above. Man City has the least. At least Chelsea still have JT and gang and Maureen will unite them all.
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That's poison...See how manager they "helped" getting rid of with their big ass ego
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QUOTE(Cloud0890 @ Jun 21 2013, 11:17 AM)
Time for Agger to step up as THE leader at the back.
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Agger even though as many would like isnt the type of vocal power in Liverpool yet.
He's quiet somehow.

I can almost tell that Botak Jon is even more vocal than him.

I dont know man. We gotta have more fellas like Carra. Toure is a vocal guy. But he's also the guy that got too vocal with Balotelli. LOL.
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QUOTE(dillonyong @ Jun 21 2013, 11:12 AM)
I was reading this and then I saw this:
Three Tips To Drive Beautiful Women Wild
http://www.lolfanatic.com/why-we-settle-fo...ar-women/?imt=1

Gotta admit, this is more interesting. biggrin.gif rclxms.gif
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The video was freaking long and I'm lost in the middle of it. laugh.gif
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QUOTE(wts6819 @ Jun 21 2013, 11:44 AM)
The video was freaking long and I'm lost in the middle of it. laugh.gif
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No need to watch la. 3 tips:

1) Always smile, be approachable, be a very good listener
2) dont try to act like an expert problem solver. Just listen and give opinion not advice
3) 3 One-on-One dates and the third date, hold her hand


AND the deal's done. biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(dillonyong @ Jun 21 2013, 11:48 AM)
No need to watch la. 3 tips:

1) Always smile, be approachable, be a very good listener
2) dont try to act like an expert problem solver. Just listen and give opinion not advice
3) 3 One-on-One dates and the third date, hold her hand
AND the deal's done. biggrin.gif
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No wor. 3rd date must bring to bed liao wor. biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(wts6819 @ Jun 21 2013, 11:51 AM)
No wor. 3rd date must bring to bed liao wor. biggrin.gif
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Is this why you named yourself as Want to S*ck 6819 times? tongue.gif LOL

Anyway, Oscar Cardozo now linked to Liverpool
http://www.touchlinetalk.com/liverpool-and...raguayan/55027/?
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Da Saint Alberto cometh.

Liverpool have agreed a £6.8m fee for Sevilla & Spain U21's attacker Luis Alberto!
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Not to be outshone, my friend ordered this. At least he will be wearing it in Sydney, 900km from where I will be. smile.gif

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QUOTE(dillonyong @ Jun 21 2013, 01:28 PM)
Is this why you named yourself as Want to S*ck 6819 times? tongue.gif LOL

Anyway, Oscar Cardozo now linked to Liverpool
http://www.touchlinetalk.com/liverpool-and...raguayan/55027/?
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So old already
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QUOTE(solstice818 @ Jun 21 2013, 02:46 PM)
So old already
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Direct replacement for Andy Caroll tongue.gif
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QUOTE(dillonyong @ Jun 21 2013, 11:48 AM)
No need to watch la. 3 tips:

1) Always smile, be approachable, be a very good listener
2) dont try to act like an expert problem solver. Just listen and give opinion not advice
3) 3 One-on-One dates and the third date, hold her hand
AND the deal's done. biggrin.gif
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4th date hold what? whistling.gif
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QUOTE(moodswingfella @ Jun 21 2013, 03:07 PM)
4th date hold what? whistling.gif
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Suka hati lah, bro. Pegang atas, pegang bawah. Pegang kiri, pegang kanan. Sentuh sendiri. LMAO biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(dillonyong @ Jun 21 2013, 02:55 PM)
Direct replacement for Andy Caroll tongue.gif
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You mean HIGH WAGE for ANOTHER HIGH WAGE right?
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You mean HIGH WAGE for ANOTHER HIGH WAGE right?
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He seems to be a proven prolific goalscorer according to Wiki. 6'4 tall with powerful left foot. Seems like an older but better version of Caroll tongue.gif
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We were linked with Cardozo awhile back. Not sure if $14 mil is good value for him now that he's 30. I'd put in a cheeky bid of $ 8 mil and see how Benfica respond. Still early days in the transfer market.

On an unrelated note, Shebby looks to be on the verge of losing his job as Global Advisor for Blackburn. Amongst his achievements are :-

1) The appointment of 3 managers. Former player, Henning Berg only lasted 67 days incidentally. Appleton lasted 57 days.
2) Almost overseeing the club getting relegated. They finished 17th.
3) Having a hand in the club ending the year with a forecasted $40 over mil pound loss, by signing unknown players from Portugal who have been shipped, incurring huge sums of agent fees, paying high wages for players who are past their best and paying off all 3 sacked managers.


His biggest feat has to be being able to convince Venky to pay him a salary of $400,000 quid a year!
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QUOTE(Duke Red @ Jun 21 2013, 04:21 PM)
We were linked with Cardozo awhile back. Not sure if $14 mil is good value for him now that he's 30. I'd put in a cheeky bid of $ 8 mil and see how Benfica respond. Still early days in the transfer market.

On an unrelated note, Shebby looks to be on the verge of losing his job as Global Advisor for Blackburn. Amongst his achievements are :-

1) The appointment of 3 managers. Former player, Henning Berg only lasted 67 days incidentally. Appleton lasted 57 days.
2) Almost overseeing the club getting relegated. They finished 17th.
3) Having a hand in the club ending the year with a forecasted $40 over mil pound loss, by signing unknown players from Portugal who have been shipped, incurring huge sums of agent fees, paying high wages for players who are past their best and paying off all 3 sacked managers.
His biggest feat has to be being able to convince Venky to pay him a salary of $400,000 quid a year!
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Breaking News As At 4pm Local Time

Liverpool Pay Andy Carroll @ 1 million
- In order to fasten the process for signing with West Ham
- As i mention b4..Carroll is not looking for a moved..which y he was stalling the moved...
- Dam it.

Kyriakos Papadopoulos Interest Is OFF
- Liverpool have ended interest on Papa over the valuation.
- We value him @ 12mil but they want more than 20mil
- Deal if off for now..
- We have now have step up our interest on Toby Alderweireld.
- Hope to broke the deal asap as his bayern moved have been stagnant due to the club unable to fulfill this wages demand

Luis Alberto Set 4 a Medical Today - "Pencil 4 a Medical" @ Reported earlier on 17th June
- Is due on Merseyside today to undergo a medical ahead of his proposed transfer to Liverpool
- We will pay 6 million pound + 1 million based on add-on performances
- Yes! Our second Signing!

Henrikh Mkhitaryan Want To Sign For Liverpool But.....
- Negotiations between the us & Shakhtar Donetsk are proving difficult
- But He(via Agent) is willing to accept the package (personal terms) offered to him by us despite competition from other clubs.
- No deal have been struck or he has set for a medical based on Merseyside time this morning.
- The problem is Henrikh is not completing owned by Shakhtar.
- An investment group also own a slice of his rights
- This have prove it's kind of difficult to broke the deal...
- Nevertheless...Negotiations are ongoing is still going. We believe we will eventually struck a DEAL.
- More news to follow if i got info...as it now...Nothin to celebrate about.

Reina
- Has played downed that he wanted to leaved.
- He's happy here but you never know if Barca came knocking the door
- So we can stay Cool at the moment.

You'll Never Walk Alone.
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Perfect example of how stupid & silly owner can ruins a club.
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I'm no expert but common sense tells me that after getting relegated, the first thing the club needed to do was to stabilise itself. Knowing that revenue will dip significantly having dropped a division, they should have looked into releasing highly paid players, and blooded local players from the youth team. Instead, they allowed Shebby to go on a shopping spree in Portugal, spending unnecessarily on players and agents. Of course relying on youth is risky especially when you intend to get promoted instantly so it makes sense to me that they should have looked at bringing in some players on loan. Players who could not secure regular first team places. Jonjo Shelvey did well at Blackpool for example.
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Signing Shebby Singh was their first mistake...LOL.

Oscar Cardozo, he was associated with us since Rafa was in charge but we never got him. Why now?
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QUOTE(Duke Red @ Jun 21 2013, 04:37 PM)
I'm no expert but common sense tells me that after getting relegated, the first thing the club needed to do was to stabilise itself. Knowing that revenue will dip significantly having dropped a division, they should have looked into releasing highly paid players, and blooded local players from the youth team. Instead, they allowed Shebby to go on a shopping spree in Portugal, spending unnecessarily on players and agents. Of course relying on youth is risky especially when you intend to get promoted instantly so it makes sense to me that they should have looked at bringing in some players on loan. Players who could not secure regular first team places. Jonjo Shelvey did well at Blackpool for example.
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Hence, We LFC and the supporters should count ourself lucky and be grateful that FSG comes to the rescue before we gone into administration, clear hundred millions of debt and applying their group managerial expertise into the club. I believe that LFC is in good hand now and we will rise again in the near future on & off the field. smile.gif

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Torres, having fun hammering Tahiti.

Scoring 4..assisting one...can even afford to miss a penalty. Is he eyeing for the golden boot again?

Pepe had nothing to do the entire match..easy clean sheet!
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Saw these on twitter..who are the last two guys?
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2 out of 3 brain cells were used to come up with this statement. shows just how much an arse knows anything about football.
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That is the finest piece of insult I've ever encountered. rclxms.gif

I take it as a compliment. biggrin.gif
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Hearts have confirmed that their deal to sign Danny Wilson on a permanent contract has been cancelled.

"Danny Wilson is still a Liverpool player and because we have an embargo we now cannot sign him which is very unfortunate for me," Locke said.

Wilson had agreed terms on a three-year deal in May and the 21-year-old had said that he was looking forward to developing under Locke. However, when news of the club's administration was confirmed, the player's status was called in to question.

Wilson will now be free to sign for another club when his Liverpool contract expires this month.

*Good luck to Wilson wherever he goes. Pity things didn't workout for him at #LFC

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The left side is Tiago Ilori and the right side is Kyriakos Papadopoulos. Both are CB
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QUOTE(kakashi44 @ Jun 21 2013, 10:45 PM)
The left side is Tiago Ilori and the right side is Kyriakos Papadopoulos. Both are CB
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I see..Thanx. I only know them by name.
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QUOTE(dillonyong @ Jun 21 2013, 09:12 PM)
That is the finest piece of insult I've ever encountered.  rclxms.gif

I take it as a compliment. biggrin.gif
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Lol. A normal person has billions of brain cells. I cant believe you allegedly only have 3 brain cells and only use 2 to function. You truly are an overachiever of the highest order to even be alive and functioning. Amazing. I salute. laugh.gif laugh.gif

p/s: It was a very fine piece of insult indeed. haha.

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QUOTE(dillonyong @ Jun 20 2013, 11:58 AM)
It is all but a rumor until July 1 sets in. biggrin.gif

Btw we already signed someone! biggrin.gif

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/...istol-City.html - This is not a rumor. LOL
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we probably already have 4 or 5 gerrard in the midfield including gerrard himself
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Hence, We LFC and the supporters should count ourself lucky and be grateful that FSG comes to the rescue before we gone into administration, clear hundred millions of debt and applying their group managerial expertise into the club. I believe that LFC is in good hand now and we will rise again in the near future on & off the field. smile.gif
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Suso is receiving accolades for his performance during Spain's FIFA U-20 World Cup opener against the US. He started off the season as a regular but did not feature at all after. Looked average to me but he's still a young bloke.

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QUOTE(Duke Red @ Jun 22 2013, 07:42 AM)
Suso is receiving accolades for his performance during Spain's FIFA U-20 World Cup opener against the US. He started off the season as a regular but did not feature at all after. Looked average to me but he's still a young bloke.

http://www.liverpoolfc.com/news/latest-new...-spain-beat-usa?
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Damn...some of his through passes in the highlights were exquisite. What I really like about him is that he's very calm in possession. Could see that during the times he featured for LFC. But I think needs to understand the English game pace more. Defensive midfielders and defenders close opponents down pretty rapidly and he's quite a slender lad..can get out-muscled easily and lose possession cheaply. Still only 19, definitely one for the future in LFC. Hope he gets more minutes to prove his worth next season.
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different role i suppose?BR used him more as a winger earlier this season as we run short of players but he is fitting in as CM / CAM in the spain squad.
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Damn...some of his through passes in the highlights were exquisite. What I really like about him is that he's very calm in possession. Could see that during the times he featured for LFC. But I think needs to understand the English game pace more. Defensive midfielders and defenders close opponents down pretty rapidly and he's quite a slender lad..can get out-muscled easily and lose possession cheaply. Still only 19, definitely one for the future in LFC. Hope he gets more minutes to prove his worth next season.
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I somehow agree on this.

EPL can be more physical, the moment, you try to turn inside out, tackle coming in already, and losing the ball in this situation, at midfield dangerous area, can lead to a goal score by opponent.

Sometimes, some young player can shine in U-21, or vs lower league team, but being out-muscled in EPL.

Even some top European players also find hard to shine in EPL, but perform brilliantly in other league (even in la-liga)

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I somehow agree on this.

EPL can be more physical, the moment, you try to turn inside out, tackle coming in already, and losing the ball in this situation, at midfield dangerous area, can lead to a goal score by opponent.

Sometimes, some young player can shine in U-21, or vs lower league team, but being out-muscled in EPL.

Even some top European players also find hard to shine in EPL, but perform brilliantly in other league (even in la-liga)
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Interesting. Read recently that Mata and Cazorla are having a hard time in the international squad because their style of play has been EPLlized. Much more direct and less tiki-takaing around. They are finding it hard re-adapting to the spain/barcelona style of play. The same reason Cesc was finding it hard to adapt to Barca's play when he first went there.
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Suso and Sterling are the ones I would mark down as potential transfer rebels of the future.

Give them a 2 or 3 seasons of good performances and the clubs come sniffing and they will want to go.

To safeguard our a$$, we need to tie them down as often as we could.

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Nowadays contracts come with a slew of clauses, one of which is the buyout clause. This basically means that contracts are no longer binding just so long as the purchasing club is willing to shell out a little more quid. If the club refuses the offer, players can always sulk and refuse to train or play whistling.gif
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Suso and Sterling are the ones I would mark down as potential transfer rebels of the future.

Give them a 2 or 3 seasons of good performances and the clubs come sniffing and they will want to go.

To safeguard our a$$, we need to tie them down as often as we could.
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Who say "SUSO" look average player?
- I'M Fking AGREED with mkaz. Y doesn't Brendan play him. For those that "DOUBT SUSO Talent" pls study the video closely..Upload again another 4 "U GUYS TO OPEN UR EYES EYES BIG BIG & WATCH WHAT HE CAN DO...."

SUSO VS USA Under 20s


"NOT CONVINCE" enough with Ur requirement? Lets refresh & roll back pass Video's of his...

SUSO Vs Chelsea


Suso Compilation


Suso V Estonia Under 19s


Suso vs Portugal U19 Euro 2012



Suso Vs Greece U19 Euro 2012! 15.07.12


Short Clip What he Can Do...





Who say "SUSO" look soft?
- All spanish players look soft
- But how come they r successful?
- They know they cant counter opponent physical present. So they have enhance the pass & moved philosophy so well that sometimes it's like chasing ghost. Beside that..coz mainly they r small size but they work into their strength. Due to their nippy size they tend to make a turn faster that a superior physically opponent cox the bigger they r..the harder they follow their turn "Physic Law" o something. Their gravity is lower so they can moved things faster a second o 2 thend a stronger opponent.
- So pls quase those false interpretation that SUSO is SOFT. Mind u his only 19 & pls look at the video attach...U tell me is he 19? At LFC...only Countinho can match his all round play but still he loose tho Suso interms of XABI ALONSO passing. If Coutinho get to play..So does Suso OK.

Contract Rebel :Pls tell me which talented player wants to sit on the bench on match day & get to play (If he lucky) when it's the time he need to play?
A Bit A RUNDOWN EMOTION....
- 1st season ok...Learning & Waiting...
- 2nd season..Waiting for chance
- 3rd season..get frustrated
Conclusion : If a player by the 3rd year doesn't get recognize..He's either not Good Enough o Doesn't suits the Manager way.
I don't mind losing Sterling coz I always stated that Suso is 1 of the rare Gems in our hand. What suso offer us is sterling cant offer us...Passing with exquisite skills & timing. FYI...In Rodgers "Tiki-Tika" philosophy..We need players that r technically equip in this kind of FOOTBALL!!! We have Ibe & Sinclair that is in the mould of Sterling. Can u tell me who's in the mold of Suso class after Coutinho? Please "VALUE" this KID & STOP saying he lazy + soft + missing in action + whatever reason u can think of him. He just need chance to play & not in the wing but thru the middle (MIND U COUTINHO dictate the game when he's play thru the middle with the freedom to moved around...So do SUSO) For me..i cant remember Liverpool losing more than 3 match when he starts o being Sub.

Thank U Very Much..

In SUPPPORT of SUSO Football Talent...
Chris Lam.

p/s : Suso went on to sign for the Liverpool Academy in the summer of 2010 from his hometown club Cadiz, rejecting Barcelona and Real Madrid in the process, saying "I was going to sign for Real Madrid but one day before it the phone rang and Rafael Benitez spoke to me. He convinced me that Liverpool was the club for me and after that I had to change my plans. I was going to come to Liverpool." He was described by Cádiz manager Quique González as "a boy with great quality, a good shot – his vision is great and his passing is outstanding." from wiki

A Talent being outsought by Barcelona & Real Madrid is a AVERAGE player? U r the BIGGEST Joke
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o_O...Chris is angry..at who in particular was that rage directed too?
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Who say "SUSO" look average player?
- I'M Fking AGREED with mkaz. Y doesn't Brendan play him. For those that "DOUBT SUSO Talent" pls study the video closely..Upload again another 4 "U GUYS TO OPEN UR EYES EYES BIG BIG & WATCH WHAT HE CAN DO...."

SUSO VS USA Under 20s


"NOT CONVINCE" enough with Ur requirement? Lets refresh & roll back pass Video's of his...

SUSO Vs Chelsea


Suso Compilation


Suso V Estonia Under 19s


Suso vs Portugal U19 Euro 2012

Suso Vs Greece U19 Euro 2012! 15.07.12


Short Clip What he Can Do...





Who say "SUSO" look soft?
- All spanish players look soft
- But how come they r successful?
- They know they cant counter opponent physical present. So they have enhance the pass & moved philosophy so well that sometimes it's like chasing ghost. Beside that..coz mainly they r small size but they work into their strength. Due to their nippy size they tend to make a turn faster that a superior physically opponent cox the bigger they r..the harder they follow their turn "Physic Law" o something. Their gravity is lower so they can moved things faster a second o 2 thend a stronger opponent.
- So pls quase those false interpretation that SUSO is SOFT. Mind u his only 19 & pls look at the video attach...U tell me is he 19? At LFC...only Countinho can match his all round play but still he loose tho Suso interms of XABI ALONSO passing. If Coutinho get to play..So does Suso OK.

Contract Rebel :Pls tell me which talented player wants to sit on the bench on match day & get to play (If he lucky) when it's the time he need to play?
A Bit A RUNDOWN EMOTION....
- 1st season ok...Learning & Waiting...
- 2nd season..Waiting for chance
- 3rd season..get frustrated
Conclusion : If a player by the 3rd year doesn't get recognize..He's either not Good Enough o Doesn't suits the Manager way.
I don't mind losing Sterling coz I always stated that Suso is 1 of the rare Gems in our hand. What suso offer us is sterling cant offer us...Passing with exquisite skills & timing. FYI...In Rodgers "Tiki-Tika" philosophy..We need players that r technically equip in this kind of FOOTBALL!!! We have Ibe & Sinclair that is in the mould of Sterling. Can u tell me who's in the mold of Suso class after Coutinho? Please "VALUE" this KID & STOP saying he lazy + soft + missing in action + whatever reason u can think of him. He just need chance to play & not in the wing but thru the middle (MIND U COUTINHO dictate the game when he's play thru the middle with the freedom to moved around...So do SUSO) For me..i cant remember Liverpool losing more than 3 match when he starts o being Sub.

Thank U Very Much..

In SUPPPORT of SUSO Football Talent...
Chris Lam.

p/s :  Suso went on to sign for the Liverpool Academy in the summer of 2010 from his hometown club Cadiz, rejecting Barcelona and Real Madrid in the process, saying "I was going to sign for Real Madrid but one day before it the phone rang and Rafael Benitez spoke to me. He convinced me that Liverpool was the club for me and after that I had to change my plans. I was going to come to Liverpool." He was described by Cádiz manager Quique González as "a boy with great quality, a good shot – his vision is great and his passing is outstanding." from wiki

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Somebody needs to chill out..like seriously..We all want Suso to be brilliant. He's on his way there. Not a perfect product yet. In fact, I believe he's still quite some way from being perfect. If he was he'd be starting every game already.
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Suso is well ahead of players that are in similar age. Frankly speaking, Spain U19, U20, U21 are well above other countries. But when it comes to league games, I think we have better options.

As far as a lot of us wanna see the likes of Suso & Sterling becomes a star. They're not ready for first team football yet. Ease them in like BR did last year is good enough. Though I've to say Suso has improve a lot lately after tasting some first team football at the beginning of the season.

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suso is a more half complete talent.. he has more flair than wat sterling can do but sadly people are more fancy of speedster rather than intelligence.. when the speed is lock, sterling is nothing more than a mark gonzalez..

the signing of alberto and probably mkhitayyan mean the career of suso here is finished if he stays .. unless he made a cameo and score a winning goal against Manu then he will still has a chance
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A few videos of Suso and we are getting ahead of ourselves. Come on guys. Leave it to BR.

That's his job. Not ours. So far BR has been quite fair towards the players.
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well whether suso get another opportunity this season, it depends on Rodgers and also Suso to be ready at all times.

he (suso) certainly has the talent, but will have to bide time. The current new structure of rodgers set up; and with the talents rodgers is roping out for, it's doesn't look too optimistic for suso...

but then again, it's football everything to play.

well, rafa still believes suso may have some future in Liverpool (giving him encouragement, suso did say they still stay in contact). I like him and personally I don't see him being featured even this season by rodgers. Maybe a few games towards at the end of next season campaign (or some league cup games)

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If one fella show the video of Suso, then we should play Suso. Then next fella show the video of Jordon Ibe, we should play Jordon Ibe.

In that case we may have to fill 22 players on the field biggrin.gif
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If one fella show the video of Suso, then we should play Suso. Then next fella show the video of Jordon Ibe, we should play Jordon Ibe.

In that case we may have to fill 22 players on the field biggrin.gif
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Haha. Youtube show reels tend to make everyone look like Cristiano ronaldo. I think I'll go watch Jay spearing's video after this.

I do agree that while Suso is an exceptional talent, he is not ready for the bpl..YET. He's only 19. But he is a talent we must struggle to retain. However, I do afraid that the lack of first team opportunities might drive him away. A loan move is a very viable option for him to develop.

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Haha. Youtube show reels tend to make everyone look like Cristiano ronaldo. I think I'll go watch Jay spearing's video after this.

I do agree that while Suso is an unexceptional talent, he is not ready for the bpl..YET. He's only 19. But he is a talent we must struggle to retain. However, I do afraid that the lack of first team opportunities might drive him away. A loan move is a very viable option for him to develop.
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Like most of you I watched Suso play last season but maybe I'm missing something because while he was consistent, he wasn't doing anything to warrant an automatic first team place. I can see why Downing was ever present in his place as much as he has his detractors.

YouTube any player and you'll see the good bits. We don't get to see Suso in training day in, day out though do we? Anyone remember Freddie Adu? Well if you don't it just comes to show how YouTube vids aren't reliable. He was the next big thing and his vids were amazing. Whilst he is still relatively young, he hasn't reached the heights that were expected of him.

The step up from U-20 level to the top flight is a big one. Many have flattered to deceive. Suso is a promising lad but he isn't yet a game changer. After losing his first team place, he was used sparingly as a sub but made little impact after coming on. One for the future. Still has much to learn does this young Padawan.
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QUOTE(Duke Red @ Jun 23 2013, 02:41 PM)
Like most of you I watched Suso play last season but maybe I'm missing something because while he was consistent, he wasn't doing anything to warrant an automatic first team place. I can see why Downing was ever present in his place as much as he has his detractors.

YouTube any player and you'll see the good bits. We don't get to see Suso in training day in, day out though do we? Anyone remember Freddie Adu? Well if you don't it just comes to show how YouTube vids aren't reliable. He was the next big thing and his vids were amazing. Whilst he is still relatively young, he hasn't reached the heights that were expected of him.

The step up from U-20 level to the top flight is a big one. Many have flattered to deceive. Suso is a promising lad but he isn't yet a game changer. After losing his first team place, he was used sparingly as a sub but made little impact after coming on. One for the future. Still has much to learn does this young Padawan.
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Fully agreed. Besides, giving a youngster too many matches may make him or break him. He should be given matches but automatic first choice, he aint up to it yet.


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good luck fighting your way up to a mid-table position next season guys smile.gif btw, hows ur better half, everton ?
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good luck fighting your way up to a mid-table position next season guys smile.gif btw, hows ur better half, everton ?
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Good luck to you guys too..would love it for you guys to join us in the mid-table race next season..the more the merrier. Heard you guys flirting with Higuain lately..Got her number yet? tongue.gif
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Same as yours, Chelsea?
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Fabri @ Can play arsenal at the age 16

Ox @ about there

Anelka @ same

Rooney @ same

Johnson @ same

Cole @ same

Owen & fowler @ same

Bla Bla Bla..the list goes on.

If their good means they r? Y? Coz they r giving chance to play when they r 16/17. They need the experience. I'm stating this not only to Suso but rest of the academy. They need real playing time. A promising lad should have given at least 10 starts and multiple subs moment. Not 5 but at least 20-30minutes...this will. Eventually enhance their ability to become a better pro.

For example : Is Suso is not as good as wilshere? No. But wilshere get to play coz arsene all this year philosophy is giving youngster to play. For the past 10+ years...u can see more youngster emerging playing for arsenal than any top flight PL club? R they as good as messi @ 16? No..they r potential but they need to play with the big guys so that can learn n nurture their play with real match day experience. Without those experience they won't grow from strength to strength.

Loaning them out is a good option but provided they get at least 50% first team start. If not..it doesn't make sense where the purpose of loaning out us to gain experience. But Suso has mention he want to stay to fight for his place.

Anyway the most important is that BR give other youngster game time. A start is good but at least 20/30 minutes 1st team game time experience to enhanced their football knowledge. If study thru the sub that BR make...
Is either (based on them being benched)
- shelvey
- sterling (BR favor)
- Henderson
- borini (BR favor)
- Allen (BR favor)
- sturridge (BR favor)
I know can remember Suso coming out from the bench against United & Newcastle(last 8min when we r cruising since early second half) IF we can play Ibe without any 1st team the last game. Why Suso didn't get to play? Coutinho started every game since feb n was not rested much...and he's 20. Will he b overburn? Note : he was largely out if the inter squad before the came to us. Yet he still flourished. Y? Coz he look rusty at first but as the more game time under his belt..he look "Worldclass". Y? Coz he was given a run of game and as his confidences grow..he play with confidence and he looks wonder. Coz the more he play..the better he get..this is what I'm trying to say.

Sterling is badly overplayed..he started more and was used as a subs at the rate twice of the ratio compare to Suso. While sterling didnt flourished well with england age group but Suso has excel in the Spain U18 winning the under 18 euro cup last summer n doing well in Spain under 20s World Cup this summer. He's wearing No.8 jersey for Spanish national team. Can u wear no.8 is u r average n not experience enough? U evaluate urself. No need to see YouTube if u check him out every game he played it live. I'm gathering as much game play then can find Suso which they focus it for u guys that didn't study how he's really is. I watch him live caused he's playing his trade with Liverpool so does I watch England when Gerrard play for England. I'm a not a YouTube follower. I'm a Liverpool live game follower. Even i follow Spain with Torres n alonso is a red. For u guys that question Suso overrated..pla don't see YouTube. Pls catch him live during the under 20 world cup. Will find out the dates for u all.

We all Need Opportunities.

Won't debate anymore on Suso. Enough said. Gotto Get back to life. I'm just glad he's wearing a Liverpool jersey. Just want all of them equally treated within LFC.

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You're contradicting yourself. On one hand you say young players need exposure and on the other you're saying someone like Sterling has been overplayed. I'm sorry but how many games has Suso played in the U-20 World Cup again? How many did he play for the first team last season? Do you remember even 1 standout game? No one is saying he's a bad player, it's just that currently he's but a squad player. Seems to me you're basing your whole opinion on him standout games he's had at U-20 level, which I think you'd agree is a few rungs down from senior competitive football. Again, Freddie Adu anyone?

Ibe we payed because we had nothing to play for. Like you've said, it was our last game. Morgan was also given a runout as well as was Coady during the season. In fact, I think all the young lads were given fair opportunity to stake a claim in the starting 11. Didnt we ask for this? That we wanted to see the young lads being given a chance? You make it sound as though Suso never got a fair shot. He did and if memory serves me he was only, alright. What did he do to warrant more opportunities?

You mention some young blokes there but for everyone one, there is a David Thompson, John Welsh, Stephen Darby, Neil Mellor, Florent Sinama Pongolle, Anthony La Tallec, Zak Whitbread, Ritchie Partridge, Mark Gonzalez, Jack Hobbs, Paul Anderson and so on, and these are just Liverpool lads I have at the top of my head. Point is that young protégés aren't common and Suso has not made the sort of impact Rooney, Fowler or Owen did when they burst onto the scene.

Again, Suso is on course to being a good player but he's far from it at the moment and to suggest he's ready for regular first team football is to me, premature.

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QUOTE(Chris Lam @ Jun 23 2013, 06:31 PM)
Fabri @ Can play arsenal at the age 16

Ox @ about there

Anelka @ same

Rooney @ same

Johnson @ same

Cole @ same

Owen & fowler @ same

Bla Bla Bla..the list goes on.

If their good means they r? Y? Coz they r giving chance to play when they r 16/17. They need the experience. I'm stating this not only to Suso but rest of the academy. They need real playing time. A promising lad should have given at least 10 starts and multiple subs moment. Not 5 but at least 20-30minutes...this will. Eventually enhance their ability to become a better pro.

For example : Is Suso is not as good as wilshere? No. But wilshere get to play coz arsene all this year philosophy is giving youngster to play. For the past 10+ years...u can see more youngster emerging playing for arsenal than any top flight PL club? R they as good as messi @ 16? No..they r potential but they need to play with the big guys so that can learn n nurture their play with real match day experience. Without those experience they won't grow from strength to strength.

Loaning them out is a good option but provided they get at least 50% first team start. If not..it doesn't make sense where the purpose of loaning out us to gain experience. But Suso has mention he want to stay to fight for his place.

Anyway the most important is that BR give other youngster game time. A start is good but at least 20/30 minutes 1st team game time experience to enhanced their football knowledge. If study thru the sub that BR make...
Is either (based on them being benched)
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- sterling (BR favor)
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- borini (BR favor)
- Allen (BR favor)
- sturridge (BR favor)
I know can remember Suso coming out from the bench against United & Newcastle(last 8min when we r cruising since early second half) IF we can play Ibe without any 1st team the last game. Why Suso didn't get to play? Coutinho started every game since feb n was not rested much...and he's 20. Will he b overburn? Note : he was largely out if the inter squad before the came to us. Yet he still flourished. Y? Coz he look rusty at first but as the more game time under his belt..he look "Worldclass". Y? Coz he was given a run of game and as his confidences grow..he play with confidence and he looks wonder. Coz the more he play..the better he get..this is what I'm trying to say.

Sterling is badly overplayed..he started more and was used as a subs at the rate twice of the ratio compare to Suso. While sterling didnt flourished well with england age group but Suso has excel in the Spain U18 winning the under 18 euro cup last summer n doing well in Spain under 20s World Cup this summer. He's wearing No.8 jersey for Spanish national team. Can u wear no.8 is u r average n not experience enough? U evaluate urself. No need to see YouTube if u check him out every game he played it live. I'm gathering as much game play then can find Suso which they focus it for u guys that didn't study how he's really is. I watch him live caused he's playing his trade with Liverpool so does I watch England when Gerrard play for England. I'm a not a YouTube follower. I'm a Liverpool live game follower. Even i follow Spain with Torres n alonso is a red. For u guys that question Suso overrated..pla don't see YouTube. Pls catch him live during the under 20 world cup. Will find out the dates for u all.

We all Need Opportunities.

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Nobody said Suso was overrated. Some of us are just saying he's not star material YET but could be. Whether he gets more minutes compared to last season is BR's prerogative. We all don't get to watch him in training. Only the manager and coaches know how to judge what goes on behind the scenes.
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Bro. I didn't say overplayed ok. BR admit it n I'm comparing with Suso game time. Look at the age different n between the 2. Secondly sterling was BR preferences. He has pace but we need technical player in the system. Yet Suso was not played I even given a try for 30m when we r winning games. U cant play a for a football club is u can't even handle it international age group. England fail in youth level but Spain? Suso is part of the starting 11 that won the euro cup under 18 last summer. This not genuine enough. Yes mayb he's the handicapped player in the camp where is others far more superior so he still not good enough. Anyway I'm asking u guys to watch u20s closely since u say I'm referring to YouTube clips..doubt me then watch it lot..the whole game so u don't get con from YouTube clip. Fred adu..he didn't excite me at all even watching YouTube. Chris subscribe LFC tv to watch the reserves. He look well above the rest. I'm talking Suso as a whole..played thru under 18 + reserves team + 1st team + under 18s starting 11 euro cup winning team in 2013 and now in the under 20s world club starting 11. If u don't have talent in the age group u won't get to start o wearing no.8 for your national team.

U can name those youngsters...I can remember every single one of them. I follow the academy since my college days n im 32 now. None of them that has the potential like Suso did. Le tallec was the close...sadly change of manager changes everything.

Fined. If u say BR give chances to every1. If Liverpool is a defensive n tactical manager at helm u can say Suso can't b played but we r playing the tiki-Tina football philosophy and Suso not talented to play in there? For me only Suarez + coutinho + sturridge r technically good. How many appearance..sorry minutes played after the Oldham game or after signing his new contract. This call getting fair chance. Cantik...yes I'm overrated suso.

Enough say. Bro all I can say we need a better future to LFC.
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Bro. I didn't say overplayed ok. BR admit it n I'm comparing with Suso game time. Look at the age different n between the 2. Secondly sterling was BR preferences. He has pace but we need technical player in the system. Yet Suso was not played I even given a try for 30m when we r winning games. U cant play a for a football club is u can't even handle it international age group. England fail in youth level but Spain? Suso is part of the starting 11 that won the euro cup under 18 last summer. This not genuine enough. Yes mayb he's the handicapped player in the camp where is others far more superior so he still not good enough. Anyway I'm asking u guys to watch u20s closely since u say I'm referring to YouTube clips..doubt me then watch it lot..the whole game so u don't get con from YouTube clip. Fred adu..he didn't excite me at all even watching YouTube. Chris subscribe LFC tv to watch the reserves. He look well above the rest. I'm talking Suso as a whole..played thru under 18 + reserves team + 1st team + under 18s starting 11 euro cup winning team in 2013 and now in the under 20s world club starting 11. If u don't have talent in the age group u won't get to start o wearing no.8 for your national team.

U can name those youngsters...I can remember every single one of them. I follow the academy since my college days n im 32 now. None of them that has the potential like Suso did. Le tallec was the close...sadly change of manager changes everything.

Fined. If u say BR give chances to every1. If Liverpool is a defensive n tactical manager at helm u can say Suso can't b played but we r playing the tiki-Tina football philosophy and Suso not talented to play in there? For me only Suarez + coutinho + sturridge r technically good. How many appearance..sorry minutes played after the Oldham game or after signing thr new congrat. This call getting fair chance. Cantik...yes I'm overrated suso.

Enough say. Bro all I can say we need a better future to LFC.
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Point is just because someone plays well at youth level, it doesn't necessarily mean he'll cut it. Morgan was scoring for fun and won 2 FA Cups with the youth team. Last season, he was largely anonymous whenever he was on the field. This leads to the question I've asked twice. Has Suso really stood out in the matches he played last season because I've seen little to suggest he should be thrust into the first team.

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I want Suso to succeed as much as the next guy and I can see promise in him. I'm just wondering what you've seen based on his performances for the first team so far to justify demanding that Rodgers plays him more?
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Anyway. Agreed with u..We badly tons academy guys coming into for the 1st team for good since we can't match other in the market.

U ask me....
1.0 Is Suso ready for the 1st team @ Yes

2.0 Is Morgan ready for the 1st team @ No. Sorry... I never see him having it even a sniff. But i see in "NEIL MELLOR" - he's the 1 that broke all the goals records in the LFC youth level yet didn't make to rafa regime..

Michael Ngoo
- 4 me he's ready to play a bit part in the 1st team.
- He has the height of Carroll but Lighting Quick.
- Was loan to SPL heart if i'm not mistaken..
- Biggest striking talent based on the academy

But...we will see YESIL next season.
- he deserves sadly was injured most part of this season..
- I've faith as much in him like Suso.

Potential yet not giving a chance to play
1.0 Paul Anderson
- I like him. Potential...yet he was not given a chance to perform. Mayb he was english & back then spanish armada is floating into 1st during the rafa regime.

2.0 Toni Silva
- Quick & skillful
- Somehow we released him
- Portuguese origin

3.0 Tom Ince
- English lad not given a shout..

Anyway..We need to treasure our Academy Lads. If i look back 5 years ago & now...Oh my..we have ton's of it.

Look what Pep say...

Pep Guardiola has issued a glowing review of the Liverpool youth system after holding an interview with Catalan Radio. The Barcelona coach has arguably the world’s best academy at his disposal, with many regarding Arsenal’s young guns as contenders.

However, Guardiola believes that it is Liverpool who have the only academy that can challenge his own – a sentiment that he was keen to share during a recent interview:

“The academy of the Liverpool is the only one that can compare to La Masia of Barcelona FC.” he said.

The double winning coach then went on to state: “If Liverpool can manage those lads in the academy, then maybe 20 star players can arrive from that academy”.

Rafa Benitez’ marmite approach to football is one that still has the Anfield faithful split between those who laud his time at the club, and those who rejoiced at his exit. But the legacy that he left behind is testament to his managerial ability and vision for the club’s future.

Thanks to his hard work, and that of Jose Segura and Rodolfo Borrell – both of whom were poached from the Barca ranks – as well as Frank McParland and Kenny Dalglish, Liverpool finally have an academy set-up which is envied the world over.

From Dominic Campbell article...in 9th June 2011.

Which Y i Love Rafa..
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I don't think Rodgers is oblivious to the fact that Suso has talent else he would not have thrust him into the first team early in the season. If anything it was probably a combination of a resurgent Stewart Downing and the breakthrough of Raheem Sterling that relegated him back to the bench. The additions of Sturridge and Coutinho in the summer did him no favours either. Wasn't that he wasn't playing decent football, it's just that some players were in better form. With Borini having returned from injury coupled with the signings of Aspas and Alberto, his task of securing first team action has become that much harder.

Neil Mellor didn't just not cut it in Rafa's squad, he didnt really cut it anywhere. Didnt expect big things from him as I always thought he was a little too sluggish for Premier League football. Like I said, big difference playing youth football compared to the more continental approach adopted by most Premier League sides now, where mobility is increasingly important. If you compare him to big forwards like Benteke or Lukaku, he is as agile as a bull in a glassware store.

Ngoo I do like. Tall, quick and good on the ball. Then again that's what I thought of David Ngog who has the physicality but not the footballing brain to go along with it.

Paul Anderson scored less goals than Jonjo Shelvey last season despite being a regular in League Two. He's 24 now and I doubt there will be any respite for him. Has only managed 4 caps at youth level for England.

Yes Rafa was instrumental in redeveloping the academy and he'll always have a special place in the hearts of Liverpool fans. Sadly he may move out of Merseyside now that he's found a job in Italy.
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This is the video I recall Gerrard sending a message to our youth players. From 07:20 - 08:07.

The reason I remember it so well is because all along I thought as young players, you gotta train hard, be patient and wait for your chance. But Gerrad said: "Don't wait! When the chance comes you have to take it and prove it." these words from Gerrard strikes me, it's such a strong statement and shows the type of winner mentality he has. Maybe that's the reason why he's so commanding during his time and being recognized as the most complete midfielder. Back at the early days, Gerrard is so oozing with fire and hunger in his game., he's running all over the park like a monkey let loose. biggrin.gif

As talented as some of the young lads are, mentally they must show the hunger and desire to make the manager pick them ahead of other seniors. IMO Henderson is a perfect example (though he's not very young tongue.gif ). He's so desired for first team football that he gives it his all when he's call up during the QPR game even though he is having illness.
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SOS: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/...-WERE-HERE.html

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Torres scored again. Meanwhile, Uruguay are leading 6-0 against tahiti with suarez cavani forlan all on the bench. Coates started the game.
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7-0. Suarez came in and scored an individual goal.

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BR mentioned the press never mentioned of suarez love for the city of liverpool & the residents there, all they are always putting forth some headlines that sells papers (& probably just echo other clubs wishes that we lose suarez)

right now i doubt any real value have been offered.

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Liverpool Transfers: New Signings Give Reds Firepower to Make Top-4 Challenge

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QUOTE(dillonyong @ Jun 24 2013, 11:07 AM)
Liverpool Transfers: New Signings Give Reds Firepower to Make Top-4 Challenge

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http://bleacherreport.com/articles/1682254...top-4-challenge?
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good that we are making some progress in the transfer market, we are moving more swiftly compared to the last few seasons...

what number will the new guys wear? any clue?

btw, nampaknya BR tak mau dibuli suarez, dia bagi tau media liverpool kontrol keadaan sepenuhnya. syabas. jangan dibuli suarez. dia ini budak yang sudah terlalu biasa ingat dia ni boleh buat sesuka hati dia...

(saja ikut trend berbahasa m di thread ini)
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good that we are making some progress in the transfer market, we are moving more swiftly compared to the last few seasons...

what number will the new guys wear? any clue?

btw, nampaknya BR tak mau dibuli suarez, dia bagi tau media liverpool kontrol keadaan sepenuhnya. syabas. jangan dibuli suarez. dia ini budak yang sudah terlalu biasa ingat dia ni boleh buat sesuka hati dia...

(saja ikut trend berbahasa m di thread ini)
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ni nak tambah, sebenarnya rasa henderson ni masih muda, tak hairan kalau nanti dia dikonvert menjadi salah satu kita punya fullback. mungkin boleh terjadi sekiranya kita dapat henrikh. harap kita dpt henrikh. memandangkan kita sekarang susah nak menarik pemain bintang, kita patut bekerja lebih keras dalam mencari dan membeli pemain yang berpotensi yang tidak dicium/tercium oleh kelab besar.

aku percaya kat BR dan pasukannya. apa pendapat sahabat merah sekalian?
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QUOTE(Petre @ Jun 24 2013, 11:34 AM)
ni nak tambah, sebenarnya rasa henderson ni masih muda, tak hairan kalau nanti dia dikonvert menjadi salah satu kita punya fullback. mungkin boleh terjadi sekiranya kita dapat henrikh. harap kita dpt henrikh. memandangkan kita sekarang susah nak menarik pemain bintang, kita patut bekerja lebih keras dalam mencari dan membeli pemain yang berpotensi yang tidak dicium/tercium oleh kelab besar.

aku percaya kat BR dan pasukannya. apa pendapat sahabat merah sekalian?
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QUOTE(tiSSue_paPer @ Jun 24 2013, 11:35 AM)
tulis BM baru senang paham skit..
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kena pakai rojak sikit, maaflah kalau susah nak paham :biggrin.gif

dari artikel ni, lepas baca, rasa semangat....

http://bleacherreport.com/articles/1682254...top-4-challenge

tapi ini hanya 'rasa' saja, banyak lagi kerja, kita sudah lari agak depan dalam marathon 'transfer window' ni, harap kita maintain momentum, dapat pemain yang kita perlu dan mahu...

sangat tak sabar mahu tengok liverbird turun padang di liga juara eropah. tapi boleh sabar lagi. yang penting, ada kepercayaan dan tak putus asa terhadap manager sekarang.
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Sahabat merah setuju dengan pandangan-pandangan di atas.

Kamu tidak akan dibenarkan berjalan seorang diri...Lol.
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QUOTE(wadefak @ Jun 24 2013, 11:10 AM)
too optimistic if u ask me. not too shoot anyone's hopes down but we do have to think about the realistic side of the article. will the new players blend into the team like cautinho does? its too early to have such high expectations IMHO
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I agree but it isn't the first time the media have done this. They have a bad habit of talking up our chances every season. It's damaging because they raise expectations of fans who then turn on the team when they don't scale the heights the media predicted the team to. We should stop reading headlines and taking them as the truth without first forming our own opinion.

It is highly optimistic. It isn't like we've signed Edison Cavani, Matts Hummel or Christiano Ronaldo. In Aspas, Alberto and Toure we have what I think are squad players at the moment. Aspas is a bit of an unknown quantity. He's come off a good season but it remains to be seen if he can a) continue where he left off and prove he can be consistent and b) settle to life on and off the pitch in England. Luis Alberto has limited exposure at international and top flight level and will not likely be thrust right away into the first team. Toure is as we know, here for his experience. If anything, I think we've improved our squad depth, something we needed to do last season. I do not think we're top 4 material at this point.
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lari topik sikit, jarang log in sekarang, tapi kalau tak silap minggu lepas ada terbaca jurulatih pasukan simpanan/belia/bawah xx tahun (lupa dah mana satu) ada cakap, seluruh skuad tu berhak dan mampu diserap ke skuad utama...

apa pendapat brader brader sekalian?

tapi ini satu budak saya banyak suka- wisdom.
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QUOTE(lerijiso @ Jun 24 2013, 11:42 AM)
Sahabat merah setuju dengan pandangan-pandangan di atas.

Kamu tidak akan dibenarkan berjalan seorang diri...Lol.
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We should b Optimistic. That's Life. We should b Optimistic in everything. That's the way to drive Us forward. Without it..it's meaningless to watch or to do things in Life. Cheers..

Just found 1 article..Nice craft what i'm being "Optimistic" this season "Chance"

With or without Suarez, LFC can have a wealth of attacking options By Matt Lawson
We take a look at how, regardless of Luis Suarez’s future, Liverpool can and will have an extremely strong attacking quartet at their disposal next season – key to it though is the prospective signing of Henrikh Mkhitaryan.

First off, let’s make one thing clear – Liverpool will be a stronger side with Luis Suarez next season than without. Let’s not kid ourselves that removing one of the best players in the world, who scored 30 goals last season, would make us a better team. It wouldn’t.

But, and here’s the key, provided Liverpool can complete a deal for Shaktar’s Henrikh Mkhitaryan there is no reason to be overly concerned about requiring a replacement for Suarez immediately.

By all reports, Mkhitaryan is a very versatile, two-footed player with an eye for goal. He can play in any of the forward positions but is most suited to a central attacking midfield role. He has operated in a ‘false 9′ position up front but can equally fill any of the three attacking positions behind the central forward.

Should Suarez leave, Daniel Sturridge – we can safely assume – will become the main centre forward.

In terms of other options, Rodgers then has Fabio Borini – who I feel can definitely grow into the role (remember, he’s only 22) – new signing Iago Aspas, and then Mkhitaryan. That’s four players who can play centrally – certainly more than we had last September when we were looking at Adam Morgan and Samed Yesil to play there.

Aspas, I believe, will operate most effectively in the role occupied by Stewart Downing for the latter half of last season on the right of the attacking three. Also left footed, Aspas can cut inside, leaving space for the overlapping full-back to exploit. Where Aspas will improve us is his more direct play and eye for goal.

That then leaves Philippe Coutinho to operate similarly from the left, with him free to cut inside, interchange with Mkhitaryan and again allow the attacking full-back to use the space out wide. It would be a very fluid front four.

Should Suarez leave, Liverpool are left with even greater options. Suarez could operate the wide right role or the central role. Again, a fluid attack is created and plenty of options for the manager.

Without European football next season it will be an extremely competitive squad. So far I’ve discussed the main four options for the four attacking positions. But even behind them there are adequate back-ups in the form of youngsters Raheem Sterling, Suso and Jordan Henderson. Borini can play central, left, or right; Aspas can play central or out wide; Mkhitaryan as above.

Formation based on 4.2.3.1
Centre Forward @ Sturridge - Borini - Aspas - Mkhitaryan
Central Att. Midfielder @ Mkhitaryan - Coutinho - Suso - Henderson
Left Att. Midfielder @ Coutinho - Borini - Mkhitaryan - Sterling - Henderson - Aspas
Right Att. Midfielder @ Aspas - Mkhitaryan - Borini - Sterling - Suso

As Rafa would say, possibilities.

This is without the expected addition of Sevilla’s Luis Alberto; he’s only a few months younger than Jonjo Shelvey and likely a like-for-like replacement but one who can operate more comfortably in the attacking positions and who is technically more capable.

I expect we will see Stewart Downing leave this summer. His wage and age (29 this summer) mean such a decision makes economic sense. It is difficult for Liverpool to justify paying him higher wages than those ahead of him in selection. All part of the healing process from financial mismanagement of the past. As above, I expect he’ll be replaced by Aspas – who can play a similar role, fit the system better, but will be on half the wages and five years younger.

Keeping Suarez would, despite his mis-guided and ill-judged public courting for a move to Madrid, be a positive. Add him in to the table above and you have attacking options better than any other team in the Premier League.

Here’s hoping to we can get Mkhitaryan signed and move on to other areas to strengthen.
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Agree, i think they've been hurt so badly on the beginning of the season that they've rectified that aspect (Squad depth).

If these guys are world class we won't be getting them, if we can have a good go at 4th place i am a happy man. wink.gif

I hope Suarez do stay for another season, the transfer window is not open yet and we already spent the past month talking about him leaving.
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setuju sangat. entah kenapa rasanya sama ada kita dapat henrikh atau tidak akan mempengaruhi siapa kita beli seterusnya. dia patut jadi sasaran utama kita sekarang, harap BR sedang buat sedaya upaya untuk beli dia
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Saya berasa tenang dengan situasi Suarez ini.

When he's fully charge and put on the red shirt again on Sept 28th.
Boom!! Dia akan melancarkan gelombang serangan demi serangan ke Sunderland yang tiada Mignolet jadi GK mereka kali ini. brows.gif

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I personally am not too optimistic about the quality that luis alberto and aspas can offer for us.

I'm just happy that LFC are making purchases (so early in the transfer window some more) to show that they are in it to challenge for trophies. If anything, they add more depth to the squad. I'm not expecting much from them both.

Henrikh Mikytaryan on the other hand, is someone i have high expectations for if we land him.
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QUOTE(Yluxion @ Jun 24 2013, 12:02 PM)
Saya berasa tenang dengan situasi Suarez ini.

When he's fully charge and put on the red shirt again on Sept 28th.
Boom!! Dia akan melancarkan gelombang serangan demi serangan ke Sunderland yang tiada Mignolet jadi GK mereka kali ini.  brows.gif
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QUOTE(lerijiso @ Jun 24 2013, 12:04 PM)
I personally am not too optimistic about the quality that luis alberto and aspas can offer for us.

I'm just happy that LFC are making purchases (so early in the transfer window some more) to show that they are in it to challenge for trophies. If anything, they add more depth to the squad. I'm not expecting much from them both.

Henrikh Mikytaryan on the other hand, is someone i have high expectations for if we land him.
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QUOTE(lerijiso @ Jun 24 2013, 12:04 PM)
I personally am not too optimistic about the quality that luis alberto and aspas can offer for us.

I'm just happy that LFC are making purchases (so early in the transfer window some more) to show that they are in it to challenge for trophies. If anything, they add more depth to the squad. I'm not expecting much from them both.

Henrikh Mikytaryan on the other hand, is someone i have high expectations for if we land him.
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Unlike the situation with Daniel Sturridge who is a sure thing, I know nothing about Aspas, Mikhitaryan and Alberto so I am in dark just like you.

Well, we were in the dark about Coutinho until we saw him playing. So I take it that BR knows what he's bringing to the team and wont repeat the famously claimed $15mil pounds mistake in Joe Allen. biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(dillonyong @ Jun 24 2013, 12:10 PM)
Unlike the situation with Daniel Sturridge who is a sure thing, I know nothing about Aspas, Mikhitaryan and Alberto so I am in dark just like you.

Well, we were in the dark about Coutinho until we saw him playing. So I take it that BR knows what he's bringing to the team and wont repeat the famously claimed $15mil pounds mistake in Joe Allen. biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(Chris Lam @ Jun 24 2013, 11:48 AM)
We should b Optimistic. That's Life. We should b Optimistic in everything. That's the way to drive Us forward. Without it..it's meaningless to watch or to do things in Life. Cheers..


I am optimistic... of a top 6 assault. Optimism needs to come with dosages of realism or one could easily be labeled as being delusional.

I think you'd be hard pressed to find a poster who tells you that I've been pessimistic throughout. I've been supportive of FSG and Brendan Rodgers all this while. It is important at the same time to realise that the transition process from a club in debt to a profitable one is a long one. Success will come in stages. Also, we've signed promising players but hardly world beaters. We've got a good squad capable of competing against the big boys but we also need to reel in our expectations and embrace reality. I am optimistic of our chances on the long term and fully support the vision laid forth by our owners and gaffer. Like them, I do not think it will happen quite so soon as much as I hope it will.

QUOTE(Chris Lam @ Jun 24 2013, 11:48 AM)
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We will undoubtedly have a potent forwardline should Suarez stay and Mkhitaryan finally put pen to paper but I don't think any of us can offer anything more than assumptions and speculate at the moment. I try not to dream of "what ifs", preferring to focus on "what is". I don't see how we'll keep Aspas, Alberto, Coutinho, Sturridge, Suarez, Sterling and perhaps Suso happy all season, having them fight for only 3 spots. Didn't mention Mkhitaryan because he can always drop back into a midfield role. Something has got to give and someone will move.

Even so, I still think we need strengthening in the other half of the park. We scored goals last season but we conceded a fair bit as well. Toure will feature on a rotation basis and we still need someone permanent to partner Agger. My bet is on Kelly should we fail to land a new signing. Johnson will likely be leaving next season and Wisdom may go out on loan so we need to look ahead and groom a successor. If Johnson leaves it will also leave us short of options on the left. There is also the question of who comes in should Lucas be injured or suspended? We don't have a defensive midfielder worth mentioning.

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United got 7 players to occupy 4 Attacking Slot
- Hernandez
- Welbeck
- Rooney
- RVP
- Valencia
- Young
- Kagawa

City got got 8 players to occupy 4 Attacking Slot
- Aguero
- Dzeko
- Tevez
- Silva
- Nasri
- Milner
- Sinclair
- Toure (Sometimes @ AM)

Chelsea got 8 players to occupy 4 Attacking Slot
- Torres
- Demba Ba
- Mata
- Oscar
- Hazard
- Moses
- Piazon
- Marko Marin

A successful football club is all about having a good starters & impact subs...If we got competition...the group will immediately raise their game coz they know if they can't perform..others will step in. Last year we didn't have that privilege. But this season..we will have. Of caused some will leaved. This is the part of football..unlimited talent go in & out. Only the best will Play.

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Unlike the top sides you've mentioned however, we don't have that many games to offer them. We aren't even in Europe and unless we go on a deep run in both or either domestic cup competition, we will only have 40 odd games to play over the course of the season. With the World Cup looming and players looking to book themselves a ticket to Brazil, it remains to be seen if they will be content with bench roles. One thing we do have in our favour is that Suso, Alberto, and Sterling are young whilst Aspas was never in the Spanish squad anyway so they may be content with being rotated.

Yes it's good to have attacking options which is why I said earlier that if anything, these signings will improve our squad depth. I also commented on the article you posted earlier, stating that I do not believe any of the players we've signed so far will be first team regulars (not in their first season anyway, bar Mkhitaryan should we sign him), hence why I'm apprehensive we'll finish in the top four next season. I do however believe that we are not far away from challenging though.

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I would love to have depth, but yeah the lack of games and the lack of $$ is a b**** sometimes.
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should focus on wanyanma.. it sux when another good player fall to southamton.. they are targeting top4 next season theorically
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I am not sure too much changes will do any good to the squad.

The fact that we are said to be considering the possibilities of removing Downing, Shelvey, Coates, Skrtel and Reina from the existing squad means there seems to be a big overhaul of squad.

The team coercion will be affected and I dont think that's a good thing.
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QUOTE(solstice818 @ Jun 24 2013, 11:47 PM)
I am not sure too much changes will do any good to the squad.

The fact that we are said to be considering the possibilities of removing Downing, Shelvey, Coates, Skrtel and Reina from the existing squad means there seems to be a big overhaul of squad.

The team coercion will be affected and I dont think that's a good thing.
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eh, dont we always talk about player need to gel among them? how it will be when we have 4 or 5 new player on the field? do they should take time to gel? another transition time?
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eh, dont we always talk about player need to gel among them? how it will be when we have 4 or 5 new player on the field? do they should take time to gel? another transition time?
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QUOTE(solstice818 @ Jun 24 2013, 11:47 PM)
I am not sure too much changes will do any good to the squad.

The fact that we are said to be considering the possibilities of removing Downing, Shelvey, Coates, Skrtel and Reina from the existing squad means there seems to be a big overhaul of squad.

The team coercion will be affected and I dont think that's a good thing.
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it will affect the squad..but only in early part of the season..as the season wore on, the squad will get better..and as all the name u list above, only reina is a guaranteed starting 11..so i can see it will only a minimum effect to our squad
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QUOTE(dillonyong @ Jun 25 2013, 10:29 AM)
Yan Yan said the rumors linking him with transfer is false.  shocking.gif

http://www.sportsmole.co.uk/football/shakh...htar_90525.html
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QUOTE(dillonyong @ Jun 25 2013, 10:29 AM)
Yan Yan said the rumors linking him with transfer is false.  shocking.gif

http://www.sportsmole.co.uk/football/shakh...htar_90525.html
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QUOTE(Petre @ Jun 25 2013, 10:56 AM)
rclxms.gif  we can get him after 2015 season for FREE!  rclxms.gif
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I just realised your Spanish name would be Pedro. LOL. So let's call you Don Pedro. tongue.gif


By 2015 we will lose all our players if we dont qualify for Champions league, Don Pedro. tongue.gif

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QUOTE(jacckl @ Jun 25 2013, 11:28 AM)
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QUOTE(dillonyong @ Jun 25 2013, 11:14 AM)
Should I call you Old Sport? LOL

I just realised your Spanish name would be Pedro. LOL. So let's call you Don Pedro. tongue.gif
By 2015 we will lose all our players if we dont qualify for Champions league, Don Pedro. tongue.gif
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anyway no worries la, we can promote the whole youth and reserve team rclxms.gif

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Cavani coming to Chelsea. Grab torres back for 10million as recently proven, (again) he can only score that many goals in a red shirt tongue.gif
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Despite making early signings and being linked to more players, I do not see any drastic changes to the first team. Of the signing we made so far, I can't say for certain any of them will be regular first teamers. Even if they do make the first team I don't see them all being fielded at the same time.
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I can't for the life of me figure out how Reina and Mignolet are going to co-exist. The latter is said to be a medical away from signing and he cited that coming to Liverpool will boost his chances of being the Belgian no.1 in Brazil ahead of Curtois. Thing is with Reina having cemented his place in between the sticks at Anfield, Mignolet will at the very best, share playing time with him. Needs to be noted that Reina is also contending for the no.1 spot with Valdez. Goalkeepers aren't rotated so it will be interesting to see how this pans out and how both keepers will be kept happy with so few games next season.
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QUOTE(bitebug @ Jun 25 2013, 12:33 PM)
Cavani coming to Chelsea. Grab torres back for 10million as recently proven, (again) he can only score that many goals in a red shirt tongue.gif
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Not sure how much truth there is in this but I remember seeing Elia play in the last World Cup. Looked average to me plus, do we really need another winger?
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QUOTE(lerijiso @ Jun 25 2013, 12:57 PM)
sad but true

i once walked from the city itself to the stadium and had to pass by the neighborhood beside the stadium. alot of houses were indeed boxed up with steel strips and to be frank, i was wondering if they had problem with drunken fans and etc.

When i was in Sheffield i live next to home ground of Sheffield United - Bramall lane and we never see anything like that. wink.gif

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QUOTE(Duke Red @ Jun 25 2013, 02:46 PM)
I can't for the life of me figure out how Reina and Mignolet are going to co-exist. The latter is said to be a medical away from signing and he cited that coming to Liverpool will boost his chances of being the Belgian no.1 in Brazil ahead of Curtois. Thing is with Reina having cemented his place in between the sticks at Anfield, Mignolet will at the very best, share playing time with him. Needs to be noted that Reina is also contending for the no.1 spot with Valdez. Goalkeepers aren't rotated so it will be interesting to see how this pans out and how both keepers will be kept happy with so few games next season.
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We're gonna have 2 goalkeepers guarding the post. Now that will solve the set piece issue, heh? tongue.gif
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So magnolia will wear no.9? tongue.gif
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Reina's U-Turn is perhaps because Barca dont want him.

That puts him in a position of "He's not a pool, not yet a barca." tongue.gif

In Chinese, we called that situation as "Ha1lat" biggrin.gif
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Yup. But if he forgot and use his hand during set piece then we are scr3wed tongue.gif
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if we're able to keep suarez, we can always count on him as our backup on-the-field keeper tongue.gif
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QUOTE(Duke Red @ Jun 25 2013, 02:35 PM)
Despite making early signings and being linked to more players, I do not see any drastic changes to the first team. Of the signing we made so far, I can't say for certain any of them will be regular first teamers. Even if they do make the first team I don't see them all being fielded at the same time.
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well, signing a whole bunch of players has supposedly worked better than the marquee star, so perhaps things might work out well in the long run.
personally, i have the same reservations as you.
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QUOTE(bearbear @ Jun 25 2013, 02:49 PM)
sad but true

i once walked from the city itself to the stadium and had to pass by the neighborhood beside the stadium. alot of houses were indeed boxed up with steel strips and to be frank, i was wondering if they had problem with drunken fans and etc.

When i was in Sheffield i live next to home ground of Sheffield United - Bramall lane and we never see anything like that.  wink.gif
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Sad indeed. As a fan outside of Liverpool and England and whose never bee to Anfield, I have no idea that has been going on for years. Lets hope the new plan can revitalize the surrounding areas and make the surrounding neighborhood vibrant and livable again.
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QUOTE(madmoz @ Jun 25 2013, 03:33 PM)
well, signing a whole bunch of players has supposedly worked better than the marquee star, so perhaps things might work out well in the long run.
personally, i have the same reservations as you.
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QUOTE(lerijiso @ Jun 25 2013, 03:46 PM)
Sad indeed. As a fan outside of Liverpool and England and whose never bee to Anfield, I have no idea that has been going on for years. Lets hope the new plan can revitalize the surrounding areas and make the surrounding neighborhood vibrant and livable again.
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We just need to send Moody and his girlfriend to stay there and the neighborhood will be naturally lively.

There will be lots of drama and they will never be bored. biggrin.gif
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hope next season the team change the loan system... only loaning a player who have a future at the club not loaning a player that have no future to wear the red jersey
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hope next season the team change the loan system... only loaning a player who have a future at the club not loaning a player that have no future to wear the red jersey
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QUOTE(Duke Red @ Jun 25 2013, 02:46 PM)
I can't for the life of me figure out how Reina and Mignolet are going to co-exist. The latter is said to be a medical away from signing and he cited that coming to Liverpool will boost his chances of being the Belgian no.1 in Brazil ahead of Curtois. Thing is with Reina having cemented his place in between the sticks at Anfield, Mignolet will at the very best, share playing time with him. Needs to be noted that Reina is also contending for the no.1 spot with Valdez. Goalkeepers aren't rotated so it will be interesting to see how this pans out and how both keepers will be kept happy with so few games next season.
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We have seen last season friedel vs lloris and de gea vs lindergaard. So, next season we can see magnolia vs reina
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We have seen last season friedel vs lloris and de gea vs lindergaard. So, next season we can see magnolia vs reina
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QUOTE(dikara10 @ Jun 25 2013, 07:32 PM)
Yup. Definitely. But we can see at the end the best gk remain and wasn't rotated. Even they have multiple competition.
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oooo...so the best goalkeeper left standing last season was DeGay and LLories for their respective team.

So..Magnolia vs Rayna would be interesting. If following the example above, the younger goolie will prevail.

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Armenian national football team player and a midfielder for Shakhtar Donetsk team Henrik Mkhitaryan did not attend training that he was required to attend and may be fined, Shakhtar Director General Sergey Palkin told Sportdaily.ru website. According to the team official, Mkhitaryan will be fined in case he will not attend team events soon.

“It is clear that yesterday (the press briefing was on Monday evening – ed.) he [Mkhitaryan] did not attend ‘Shakhtar’ training, although, he was required to do that. We don’t know possible reasons for that. In case if Mkhitaryan will not attend team events soon, we will have to fine him,” Palkin added.Shakhtar Director stressed that he has no explanation for such an attitude.“Ask him. I know that Henrik did not have any conflicts with partners or coaches, and he had never expressed any desire to leave the team. Thus, all questions regarding his actions should be addressed to Mkhitaryan himself,” concluded Palkin.
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LOL..Hint? everything is newsworthy now.

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bruma from portugal youth team is really gooding.. have fancy skill and awareness... shuld bid on him while his signature not that high at the moment
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Perhaps we are waiting for the right CB, beats me...areas we need strenghtening in particular - LB and CB, we manage to get past-his-prime toure...dont get me wrong, he might still be useful and competitive to put it bluntly..but not the sort of statement of intent most fans are expecting...instead we got ourself a mignolet...least that i expect...still remember when we signed dudek and kirkland for a combines fees of roughly 10million++,,altho dudek can claim credits for his heroic during CL..still there is lingering bad aftertaste from kirkland's deal which cost more but badly underutilize....pure waste of good money...liverpool havent had the rub of the green when i comes to keeper...we let go of friedel which turn out one heck of a keeper..legend in fact...the rest comes and go..into oblivion even - sander westerveld anyone...really hope that mignolet is an excellent contingency, its anyones guess....

With Mktryan and the whos the next CB deals shrouded in mystery...perhaps these are the areas of importance to BR,in which he kept it close to his chest..
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I think mignolet is for the future.May be back up for now but reina is certainly gone by next summer.

Signing the likes of mhiktaryan/eriksen and a top cb to partner agger such as papa or alder will signal our intent for top4.
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Its confirm on the official website. Welcome Simon Mignolet!
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Finally a notable signing.
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... in a position that doesn't really need strengthening lol.

Disagree with the earlier poster about our keepers, PR has been fantastic for us.
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If the checklist is all checked and some departure of deadwood player,

I'm very excited for the next season.. Just cant wait!
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... in a position that doesn't really need strengthening lol.

Disagree with the earlier poster about our keepers, PR has been fantastic for us.
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Valdez's contract should be expiring next summer, then there's a high chance that Reina will be back in Nou Camp. Didn't see anything wrong with bringing in a notable stopper a summer earlier in preparation for his departure.
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welcome magnolia. weather's hot nowadays some ice cream would be nice

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Pepe's form has been declining in recent times.
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maybe but perhaps it was more of the (adaption) system of play. Mainly the way the back begins when we have the ball esp under rodgers tactics.

he is definitely less protected by the way we organise from the past (2 defensive midfielder) but we have shown by shifting to a more attacking play.

Pepe is amongst the well paid athlete in lfc. on a hindsight getting the new keeper is more or less a precaution, should barca opts to cash in. the 2nd option is to provide reina some competition for one season. after which i'm pretty sure we'll sell reina.

its business for FSG.

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business, yes.
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QUOTE(koolspyda @ Jun 26 2013, 09:28 AM)
maybe but perhaps it was more of the (adaption) system of play. Mainly the way the back begins when we have the ball esp under rodgers tactics. 

he is definitely less protected by the way we organise from the past (2 defensive midfielder) but we have shown by shifting to a more attacking play.

Pepe is amongst the well paid athlete in lfc. on a hindsight getting the new keeper is more or less a precaution, should barca opts to cash in. the 2nd option is to provide reina some competition for one season. after which i'm pretty sure we'll sell reina.

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Simon Mignolet has become Liverpool’s latest signing in an ambitious summer spending spree, as Brendan Rodgers considers an audacious swoop for Gerard Deulofeu, the Barcelona forward.

Mignolet completed his £9 million transfer from Sunderland yesterday after passing a routine medical examination and finalising personal terms on a five-year contract.

The Belgium goalkeeper is Rodgers’s fourth signing in the past month after the acquisitions of Luis Alberto, Iago Aspas and Kolo Touré. Rodgers is now considering a move for Deulofeu, who scored 18 goals in 33 appearances for Barcelona B in the Spanish second division last season.
The 19-year-old is regarded as one of the brightest prospects in Spain, but is aware that his immediate prospects of playing first-team football are slim at the Nou Camp.

Deulofeu is understood to be keen to join a club who prioritise passing football in the event that he has to leave Barcelona, and fits the profile of player that Rodgers is keen to attract to Anfield.

Liverpool would be likely to face strong competition for Deulofeu if they decide to make a move for the teenager, but the presence of Alberto, with whom he enjoyed a productive partnership for Barcelona B, could be a trump card.

Liverpool are optimistic that a deal can be struck with Shakhtar Donetsk to sign Henrikh Mkhitaryan, who has been warned by his club that he faces a fine after failing to return to pre-season training.



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QUOTE(dikara10 @ Jun 25 2013, 06:09 PM)
We have seen last season friedel vs lloris and de gea vs lindergaard. So, next season we can see magnolia vs reina
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Thing is Friedel is in the twilight years of his career and would therefore be more accommodating to the idea of being replaced. Lindergaard was signed from Norway and should expect to have to earn his passage into the top flight. Also, with Denmark 2nd from bottom in their World Cup qualifying group, he may not have much to fight for. Both Pepe and Mignolet are established no.1's and both are currently no.2's in their respective national setups vying for the no.1 jersey.

I'm all for having two strong keepers. My concern is keeping both of them happy. I have this niggling feeling that the Pepe Reina transfer saga is far from over.

I'm not seen much of Mignolet bar youtube videos but I can say that Pepe is the sort of keeper who will thrive under our current system of play. His form was patchy early last season but he raised his game towards the end. I think Pepe is best playing behind a high defensive line. He isn't the biggest of keepers so he's likely to get swamped in a crowded penalty box. He is good with his feet and loves coming off his line so having acres of real estate in front of him is something he relishes I feel.

QUOTE(markblurberry @ Jun 25 2013, 11:51 PM)
Perhaps we are waiting for the right CB, beats me...areas we need strenghtening in particular - LB and CB, we manage to get past-his-prime toure...dont get me wrong, he might still be useful and competitive to put it bluntly..but not the sort of statement of intent most fans are expecting...instead we got ourself a mignolet...least that i expect...still remember when we signed dudek and kirkland for a combines fees of roughly 10million++,,altho dudek can claim credits for his heroic during CL..still there is lingering bad aftertaste from kirkland's deal which cost more but badly underutilize....pure waste of good money...liverpool havent had the rub of the green when i comes to keeper...we let go of friedel which turn out one heck of a keeper..legend in fact...the rest comes and go..into oblivion even - sander westerveld anyone...really hope that mignolet is an excellent contingency, its anyones guess....

With Mktryan and the whos the next CB deals shrouded in mystery...perhaps these are the areas of importance to BR,in which he kept it close to his chest..
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I'm still waiting for news of us being linked to a defensive midfielder. I think this is a key position for us more so under Rodgers where when the team pushes forward, the defensive midfielder takes up a central defensive slot, with both centrebacks pushing up wide. We were porous at the back last season and one reason for that was our inability to drop back fast enough whenever we lost possession. A Mascherano would be perfect given his experience playing in a back four with Barca.
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QUOTE(elnino @ Jun 26 2013, 09:09 AM)
Valdez's contract should be expiring next summer, then there's a high chance that Reina will be back in Nou Camp. Didn't see anything wrong with bringing in a notable stopper a summer earlier in preparation for his departure.
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QUOTE(leftist @ Jun 26 2013, 09:57 AM)
Simon Mignolet has become Liverpool’s latest signing in an ambitious summer spending spree, as Brendan Rodgers considers an audacious swoop for Gerard Deulofeu, the Barcelona forward.

Mignolet completed his £9 million transfer from Sunderland yesterday after passing a routine medical examination and finalising personal terms on a five-year contract.

The Belgium goalkeeper is Rodgers’s fourth signing in the past month after the acquisitions of Luis Alberto, Iago Aspas and Kolo Touré. Rodgers is now considering a move for Deulofeu, who scored 18 goals in 33 appearances for Barcelona B in the Spanish second division last season.
The 19-year-old is regarded as one of the brightest prospects in Spain, but is aware that his immediate prospects of playing first-team football are slim at the Nou Camp.

Deulofeu is understood to be keen to join a club who prioritise passing football in the event that he has to leave Barcelona, and fits the profile of player that Rodgers is keen to attract to Anfield.

Liverpool would be likely to face strong competition for Deulofeu if they decide to make a move for the teenager, but the presence of Alberto, with whom he enjoyed a productive partnership for Barcelona B, could be a trump card.

Liverpool are optimistic that a deal can be struck with Shakhtar Donetsk to sign Henrikh Mkhitaryan, who has been warned by his club that he faces a fine after failing to return to pre-season training.
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The signing of Mignolet just shows that perhaps BR cannot forget this:



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QUOTE(Yluxion @ Jun 26 2013, 10:21 AM)
I'm with you on this. BR foresee what's coming and preparing for life after Reina leaves. Good planning ahead. thumbup.gif
Gerard Deulofeu?! shocking.gif  That's one interesting prospect that I've follow closely. IMO, if we can land this kid then it's as good as we've made a "30 million" type of signing. Still I'm waiting for our next CB target to surface after Papa's deal seems to be put off recently.
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but i cant see barca letting go one of their brightest prospect..at best i'm expecting a loan move with no buy out clause cry.gif
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but i cant see barca letting go one of their brightest prospect..at best i'm expecting a loan move with no buy out clause cry.gif
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a bright prospect in barca does not necessarily can play in the PL

how many of you believe neymar can survive the PL? i know he wont
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a bright prospect in barca does not necessarily can play in the PL

how many of you believe neymar can survive the PL? i know he wont
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thats what a few said about suarez too...most skeptical that he could break the jinx of the no.7 jersey...but he did.
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thats what a few said about suarez too...most skeptical that he could break the jinx of the no.7 jersey...but he did.
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No point comparing chicken and duck. We do not know! Let's sign them all and decide. biggrin.gif LOL
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if the player is good enough it doesnt matter which league he play.. for me samba-kind player cant survive in PL , english player cant thrive on other league ideology is just lame.. when morientes coming and failed, ppl blame spanish player cant coup with tougher league while torres,silva,xabi all done it well... when tactical suit to the quality of the player then it's done
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QUOTE(skeleton202 @ Jun 26 2013, 11:19 AM)
if the player is good enough it doesnt matter which league he play.. for me samba-kind player cant survive in PL , english player cant thrive on other league ideology is just lame.. when morientes coming and failed, ppl blame spanish player cant coup with tougher league while torres,silva,xabi all done it well... when tactical suit to the quality of the player then it's done
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QUOTE(Petre @ Jun 26 2013, 10:59 AM)
a bright prospect in barca does not necessarily can play in the PL

how many of you believe neymar can survive the PL? i know he wont
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Same was said about David Silva but he proved most wrong
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QUOTE(lilredridinghood @ Jun 26 2013, 11:25 AM)
Same was said about David Silva but he proved most wrong
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QUOTE(dillonyong @ Jun 26 2013, 11:14 AM)
No point comparing chicken and duck. We do not know! Let's sign them all and decide. biggrin.gif LOL
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both are tasty biggrin.gif
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liverpool bought many strikers and attacking mids.. and no (new) defenders yet... i know what they're up to... brows.gif brows.gif


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QUOTE(imin @ Jun 26 2013, 01:32 PM)
liverpool bought many strikers and attacking mids.. and no (new) defenders yet... i know what they're up to...  brows.gif  brows.gif
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QUOTE(dillonyong @ Jun 26 2013, 01:39 PM)
Playing with no recognizable strikers = False 9
Playing with no recognizable defenders = Cloud 99  rclxub.gif

What about playing with no recognizable goalkeeper? biggrin.gif = Dial 999
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QUOTE(imin @ Jun 26 2013, 01:32 PM)
liverpool bought many strikers and attacking mids.. and no (new) defenders yet... i know what they're up to...  brows.gif  brows.gif
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Hahaha! Doesn't matter if we concede goals right as long as we score more than you. XD
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QUOTE(Petre @ Jun 26 2013, 10:59 AM)
a bright prospect in barca does not necessarily can play in the PL

how many of you believe neymar can survive the PL? i know he wont
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well..if the prospect cost 5-7m when m.utd willing to splash 15m on barca bench warmer..i hope we'll buy many more prospects from la liga biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(imin @ Jun 26 2013, 01:32 PM)
liverpool bought many strikers and attacking mids.. and no (new) defenders yet... i know what they're up to...  brows.gif  brows.gif
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that's why we have 2 established keepers? brows.gif
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wrong tread

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So Mignolet is now officially our most expensive goalkeeper.

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http://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/sport/footb...started-4711714?
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So Mignolet is now officially our most expensive goalkeeper.
http://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/sport/footb...started-4711714?
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Nope. UK has an inflation rate of average 3.5% since 2006.

So 9mil - 3.5% annually = 6.79 mil

He's cheaper than REINA! biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(dillonyong @ Jun 26 2013, 03:13 PM)
Nope. UK has an inflation rate of average 3.5% since 2006.

So 9mil - 3.5% annually = 6.79 mil

He's cheaper than REINA! biggrin.gif
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We signed Ray Clemence from Scunthorpe in 1967 for $18,000 pounds. How much is that today ? smile.gif
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QUOTE(Duke Red @ Jun 26 2013, 02:58 PM)
So Mignolet is now officially our most expensive goalkeeper.
http://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/sport/footb...started-4711714?
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How about Reina as Home Keeper and Mignolet as away goal keeper?
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QUOTE(Duke Red @ Jun 26 2013, 03:17 PM)
We signed Ray Clemence from Scunthorpe in 1967 for $18,000 pounds. How much is that today ? smile.gif
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$432000

He would be such a bargain today. LOL biggrin.gif
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rumours on twitter said there are pic of mikhtryan in london hotel..
he can be anywhere right now. lol
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rumours on twitter said there are pic of mikhtryan in london hotel..
he can be anywhere right now.  lol
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QUOTE(twtang @ Jun 26 2013, 04:25 PM)
How about Reina as Home Keeper and Mignolet as away goal keeper?
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Hope he will come good this season.
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We just need to send Moody and his girlfriend to stay there and the neighborhood will be naturally lively.

There will be lots of drama and they will never be bored. biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(dikara10 @ Jun 25 2013, 07:32 PM)
Yup. Definitely. But we can see at the end the best gk remain and wasn't rotated. Even they have multiple competition.
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Thing is Friedel is in the twilight years of his career and would therefore be more accommodating to the idea of being replaced. Lindergaard was signed from Norway and should expect to have to earn his passage into the top flight. Also, with Denmark 2nd from bottom in their World Cup qualifying group, he may not have much to fight for. Both Pepe and Mignolet are established no.1's and both are currently no.2's in their respective national setups vying for the no.1 jersey.

I'm all for having two strong keepers. My concern is keeping both of them happy. I have this niggling feeling that the Pepe Reina transfer saga is far from over.

I'm not seen much of Mignolet bar youtube videos but I can say that Pepe is the sort of keeper who will thrive under our current system of play. His form was patchy early last season but he raised his game towards the end. I think Pepe is best playing behind a high defensive line. He isn't the biggest of keepers so he's likely to get swamped in a crowded penalty box. He is good with his feet and loves coming off his line so having acres of real estate in front of him is something he relishes I feel.
I'm still waiting for news of us being linked to a defensive midfielder. I think this is a key position for us more so under Rodgers where when the team pushes forward, the defensive midfielder takes up a central defensive slot, with both centrebacks pushing up wide. We were porous at the back last season and one reason for that was our inability to drop back fast enough whenever we lost possession. A Mascherano would be perfect given his experience playing in a back four with Barca.
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Defensive midfielders biggrin.gif

Grzegorz Krychowiak
http://espnfc.com/news/story/_/id/1484331/...chowiak?cc=4716

Matheus Biteco
http://www.sambafoot.com/en/news/48217_liv...o_-_report.html


Btw, pic of Mkhitaryan in London. Got this from twitter
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QUOTE(w_lun @ Jun 26 2013, 07:15 PM)
Defensive midfielders  biggrin.gif

Grzegorz Krychowiak
http://espnfc.com/news/story/_/id/1484331/...chowiak?cc=4716

Matheus Biteco
http://www.sambafoot.com/en/news/48217_liv...o_-_report.html
Btw, pic of Mkhitaryan in London. Got this from twitter
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Wad da hewll is the Armenian doing in London. Is he really having Coffee with AVB?
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the deal of mkhitayyan is mostly depend on departure of carroll

u sell carrol u get mkhityayan
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the deal of mkhitayyan is mostly depend on departure of carroll

u sell carrol u get mkhityayan
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Carroll sale was confirmed on the official site a week ago isn't it? Do you mean the sale of Suarez?
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QUOTE(skeleton202 @ Jun 26 2013, 08:25 PM)
the deal of mkhitayyan is mostly depend on departure of carroll

u sell carrol u get mkhityayan
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u r away for 1 year already? tongue.gif

latest news is the club isn't the only one owning him
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LMAO!

And Yan Yan is in town to have a coffee. Question is, with who tongue.gif

Even God thinks he's good.

http://metro.co.uk/2013/06/26/henrikh-mkhi...fowler-3857150/?

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Carroll sale was confirmed on the official site a week ago isn't it? Do you mean the sale of Suarez?
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ya should be straight deal but stuck by third party.. the deal could be raised to 25m-26m which more than wat liverpool wan to offer..

just like old liverpool way, we will never adding dam extra 2-3m to secure the deal
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3hours ago: #Mkhitaryan wants #LFC move. Confirmed.

A few minutes ago: #Mkhitaryan latest: #LFC still not agreed terms with Shakhtar Dontesk officials. Talks ongoing this afternoon.


This source has been pretty spot on with his updates so far. So, The Armenian IS having "kopi" with Ian Ayre..*fingers crossed*.

For the mean time we just have to wait for the good news from Ian Ayre's assistant. *cough* Chris *cough* tongue.gif

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This source has been pretty spot on with his updates so far. So, The Armenian IS having "kopi" with Ian Ayre..*fingers crossed*.

For the mean time we just have to wait for the good news from Ian Ayre's assistant. *cough* Chris *cough* tongue.gif
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YES!! HENRIKH MKHITARYAN is almost ours!!!!

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YES!! HENRIKH MKHITARYAN is almost ours!!!!

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QUOTE(lerijiso @ Jun 26 2013, 09:09 PM)
This source has been pretty spot on with his updates so far. So, The Armenian IS having "kopi" with Ian Ayre..*fingers crossed*.

For the mean time we just have to wait for the good news from Ian Ayre's assistant. *cough* Chris *cough* tongue.gif
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According to football rules, that would be "Tapping".

Let's hope he's not having coffee with Ian Ayre himself but instead is having coffee with Ian's Ayre's daughter. biggrin.gif

Ian himself is probably seated not far away using G-Talk to send messages to his daughter who is showing the phone to the Armenian. LOL biggrin.gif

That is quite a scandal. tongue.gif

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