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post Jun 1 2013, 08:45 PM, updated 9y ago

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Haswell, Devil's Canyon, Pentium Anniversary G3258 Overclocking V1

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Please share your benchmark, stability, guides etc...

Latest BIOS: LINK

Latest Overclocking Programs, System Info, Benchmarking, & Stability Tools

LINK - credit to stasio

Monitoring/Tweaking Tools:

Haswell Reviewer Kit
CPU-Z 1.69.2
RealTemp 3.70
RealTemp TI
CoreTemp 1.0 RC6
HWiNFO 4.27
Mem TweakIT 2.02.01
CPU-Tweaker 2.0 Beta 15
GIGABYTE Tweak Launcher
Z87 OC Button
ASRock OC Tools 0724
ASUS TurboVCore
Intel Exreme Tuner Utility 4.2
AIDA64 Extreme 4.20.2800

Stability/Stressing Tools: - Please use Win7 Service Pack 1 (SP1), take a screenshot before the test finished.
LinX 0.6.5 (11.2.0)
Prime95 28.5 X64
Prime95 27.9 X64
Linpack 11.0.5.009
OCCT 4.4.0

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Benchmark Tools:
SuperPI Mod XS 1.5
HyperPI 0.99 Beta
AIDA64 Extreme
Cinebench 11.5
Cinebench R15
wprime 2.09
pifast
maxxmem
AquaMark 3.1

OC Tips & Guides
[OCN] Z97 VRM List
[HWBot] Sin's Ultimate GIGABYTE Z97X Overclocking Guide
ASUS Z87 OC Guide
ASUS MVIE OC Guide by Shamino
[OCers] 3 Step Guide to Overclock Your i7 / i5 Haswell Platform
[ROG] ASUS Maximus VI Series UEFI Guide for Overclocking
[OCN] Gigabyte Haswell/ Z87 OC Guide
[XS] How to OC Samsung with ASRock on Z87-OCF
[LYN] cstkl1's OC Guide on Stability (Part1)
[LYN] cstkl1's OC Guide on Stability (Part2)
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Latest News & Updates:

[XS] Haswell is a Worse Clocker than Ivy
[TT] Haswell and USB 3.0 seeing big issues with USB drives

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4790K & 4690K Reviews:

Phoronix
Guru3D
LegitReviews
Vortex
Tom's Hardware
PCLab.pl
DigitalStorm
PCPerspective

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4770K & 4670K Reviews:

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Z97 Motherboards Reviews:

[OCD] ASUS Maximus VII Gene
[OCD] ASUS Z97 Deluxe
[OCD] ASRock Z97 Extreme4
[OCD] MSI Z97 XPower AC
[LR] Gigabyte Z97X-SOC Force
[KG] Gigabyte Z97X-Gaming 7
[LR] ASUS Z97-Pro (Wi-Fi AC)
[OC3D] ASUS Maximus VII Hero
[OC3D] MSI Z97 MPower MAX
[OC3D] ASUS Z97-A


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Z87 Motherboards Reviews:

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DRAM Reviews:

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Corsair RAM IC:
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G.Skill RAM IC:
QUOTE(stasio @ Aug 30 2012, 12:11 AM)
0000 = Hynix
AB40 = samsung
0140 = Micron
0240 = Hynix
0340 = samsung
0360 = Samsung
0640 = Elpida non-Hyper
0650 = Elpida (seen on blue PCB Tridents)
0660 = Elpida non-Hyper
0690 = Elpida Hyper
1040 = PSC
1240 = Nanya (?)
1400 = Hynix
1500 = Samsung
1600 = Hynix
2400 = Hynix
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BSOD codes for overclocking
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0x101 = increase vcore
0x124 = increase/decrease vcore or QPI/VTT... have to test to see which one it is
0x0A = unstable RAM/IMC, increase QPI first, if that doesn't work increase vcore
0x1E = increase vcore
0x3B = increase vcore
0x3D = increase vcore
0xD1 = QPI/VTT, increase/decrease as necessary, can also be unstable Ram, raise Ram voltage
0x9C = QPI/VTT most likely, but increasing vcore has helped in some instances
0x50 = RAM timings/Frequency or uncore multi unstable, increase RAM voltage or adjust QPI/VTT, or lower uncore if you're higher than 2x
0x109 = Not enough or too Much memory voltage
0x116 = Low IOH (NB) voltage, GPU issue (most common when running multi-GPU/overclocking GPU)
0x7E = Corrupted OS file, possibly from overclocking. Run sfc /scannow and chkdsk /r


Voltage Limit for Devil's Canyon:
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Voltage Limit for Haswell:
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Credits to sin0822

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post Jun 1 2013, 08:48 PM

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LYN Haswell Owners:

## to be listed you must post at least a screenshot of CPU-Z consisted of CPU & motherboard tabs.

Username | CPU | Highest OC | Motherboard | Cooling

1)
owikh84 | 4770K | 5.0GHz (2C/2T) | ASUS Maximus VI Extreme | Water
owikh84 | 4770K | 4.6GHz (4C/8T) | ASRock Z87 OC Formula | Water
owikh84 | 4770K | 4.6GHz (4C/8T) | ASUS Maximus VI Impact | Water
owikh84 | 4770K | 4.7GHz (4C/8T) | MSI Z87 MPower MAX | Water
owikh84 | 4770K | 4.7GHz (4C/8T) | ASUS Maximus VI Hero | Water
owikh84 | 4770K | 4.75GHz (2C/2T) | ASUS Maximus VI Gene | Water
owikh84 | 4770K | 4.75GHz (2C/2T) | ASUS Maximus VI Formula | Water
owikh84 | 4770K | 4.75GHz (2C/2T) | ASUS Z87-PLUS | Water
owikh84 | 4770K | 4.7GHz (4C/8T) | ASRock Z87M OC Formula | Water
owikh84 | 4770K | 4.7GHz (4C/8T) | MSI Z87 XPower | Water

2) cstkl1 | 4770K | 4.5GHz (4C/8T) | ASUS Maximus VI Extreme | Air

3) hehee:) | 4670K | 4.4GHz (4C/4T) | ASRock Z87 Extreme6 | Cooler?

4) sam60 | 4670K | 4.5GHz (4C/4T) | ASUS Maximus VI Extreme | Air

5) silvestrelsl | 4770K | 4.5GHz (4C/8T) | ASUS Maximus VI Hero | Water

6) kmarc | 4670K | 4.2GHz (4C/4T) | ASRock Z87 Extreme4 | Air

7) JakeGFX | 4770K | 4.4GHz (4C/8T) (throttled) | ASUS Maximus VI Gene | Air

8) goldfries | 4670K | 4.3GHz (4C/4T) | ASRock Z87E-ITX | Water

9) AceCombat | 4770K | 5.0GHz (4C/8T) | Gigabyte Z87-D3HP | Water

10) meons | 4670K | 4.3GHz (4C/4T) | MSI Z87A-GD65 | Air

11) mfrworld94 | 4770K | 4.0GHz (4C/8T) | MSI Z87 MPower | Water

12) stasio | 4770K | 4.6GHz (4C/8T) | Gigabyte Z87X-OC | Water

13) hafizul88 | 4770K | 4.5GHz (4C/8T) | ASUS Maximus VI Extreme | Water

14) THe Real Deal | 4670K | 4.5GHz (4C/4T) | Gigabyte Z87X-OC-CF | Air

15) ah_khoo | 4770K | 4.5GHz (4C/8T) | ASUS Sabertooth Z87 | Water

16) arerife | 4770K | 4.5GHz (4C/8T) | ASUS Maximus VI Hero | Air

17) gasn | 4670K | 4.5GHz (4C/4T) ASUS Maximus VI Hero | Air

18) ZaiNor-DI255 | 4770K | 4.5GHz (4C/8T) ASUS Z87-I PRO | Water

19) Naraw | 4670K | 4.2GHz (4C/4T) | MSI Z87-GD65 | Air

20) Dura-Ace | 4670K | 4.3GHz (4C/4T) | ASUS Maximus VI Formula | Water

21) dennisyeoh | 4670K | 4.2GHz (4C/4T) | Gigabyte Z87X-D3H | Air

22) joeboto | 4670K | 4.3GHz (4C/4T) | ASRock Z87 Pro3 | Air

23) hairy9802 | 4570 | 3.4GHz (4C/4T) | ASRock z87 PRO3 | Water

24) mpowerwind | 4670K | 5.0GHz (4C/4T) | ASUS Maximus VI Formula | Water

25) coolkwc | 4770K | 4.6GHz (4C/8T) | Gigabyte Z87X-D3H

26) sickniz | 4770K | 4.5GHz (4C/8T) | MSI Z97M GAMING | Cooling?

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LYN Devil's Canyon Owners:

## to be listed you must post at least a screenshot of CPU-Z consisted of CPU & motherboard tabs.

Username | CPU | Highest OC | Motherboard | Cooling

1) stasio | 4790K | 5.0GHz (4C/8T) | Gigabyte Z97X-SOC Force | Water

2) cstkl1 | 4790K | 5.0GHz (4C/8T) | ASUS Maximus VI Extreme | Air

3) nicotine | 4790K | 5.0GHz (4C/8T) | Gigabyte Z97X Gaming 5 | Cooling?

4)
owikh84 | 4690K | 4.6GHz (4C/8T) | ASUS Maximus VI Extreme | Water
owikh84 | 4790K | 5.0GHz (4C/8T) | ASUS Maximus VI Extreme | Water

5) gsan | 4790K | 4.5GHz (4C/8T) | ASUS Maximus VI Hero | Cooling?

6) rc2x | 4790K | 4.8GHz (4C/8T) | ASUS Maximus VI Extreme | Water

7) llaw | 4790K | 5.01GHz (4C/8T) | Gigabyte Z97X-Gaming 7 | Cooling?

8) c2_lover | 4690K | 4.5GHz (4C/4T) | ASRock Z97 Extreme 6 | Air

9) Radeon | 4790K | 4.7GHz (4C/8T) | ASUS Z97 Pro Gamer | Air


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LYN Pentium G3258 Owners:

1) hilmiangah | G3258 | 4.4GHz (2C/2T) | ASUS Maximus VII Hero | Water

2) owikh84 | G3258 | 4.6GHz (2C/2T) | ASUS Maximus VI Extreme | Water

3) eviliezz | G3258 | 4.3GHz (2C/2T) | MSI Z97 GAMING 5 | Cooling?

4) ah_khoo | G3258 | 4.3GHz (2C/2T) | MSI Z87M Gaming | Air

5) rc2x | G3258 | 4.8GHz (2C/2T) | ASUS Maximus VI Extreme | Cooling?

6) Alim545 | G3258 | 4.8GHz (2C/2T) | ASUS Maximus VII Ranger | Cooling?

7) 13th | G3258 | 4.5GHz (2C/2T) | ASRock B85M-ITX | Air

8) sue_cinta | G3258 | 4.3GHz (2C/2T) | MSI Z97 GAMING 5 | Cooling?

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QUOTE(owikh84 @ Jun 1 2013, 08:48 PM)
LYN Ivy Bridge Owners:

## to be listed you must post at least a screenshot of CPU-Z consisted of CPU & motherboard tabs.

Username | CPU | Highest OC | Motherboard | Cooling

1) owikh84 | 4770K | [9.0 GHz  laugh.gif  (4C/8T) | Asus Maximus VI Extreme | Water
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LYN Ivy Bridge Owners? I thought this is a Haswell thread ?
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QUOTE(owikh84 @ Jun 1 2013, 08:48 PM)
LYN Haswell Owners:

## to be listed you must post at least a screenshot of CPU-Z consisted of CPU & motherboard tabs.

Username | CPU | Highest OC | Motherboard | Cooling

1) owikh84 | 4770K | [9.0 GHz  laugh.gif  (4C/8T) | Asus Maximus VI Extreme | Water
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Wahh!! What temps are you getting for that kind of speed?


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QUOTE(k!nex @ Jun 1 2013, 08:51 PM)
LYN Ivy Bridge Owners?  I thought this is a Haswell thread ?
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Oops, fixed. Thanks for correcting.

QUOTE(abidgreen93 @ Jun 1 2013, 09:23 PM)
Wahh!! What temps are you getting for that kind of speed?
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It is just for lulz. I will post the real results later tonight when the NDA is lifted at 11pm smile.gif
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4770K & 4670K Reviews:

http://dz87klt.weebly.com/
http://anandtech.com/show/7003/the-haswell...-i54560k-tested
http://hardocp.com/article/2013/06/01/inte...ew#.Uan_X9KzfbM
http://www.hardwarecanucks.com/forum/hardw...70k-review.html
http://www.guru3d.com/articles_pages/core_...k_review,1.html
http://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/Intel/C...0K_Haswell_GPU/
http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/core-i...eview,3521.html
http://www.bit-tech.net/hardware/2013/06/0...0k-cpu-review/1
http://www.hardwareheaven.com/reviews/1762...troduction.html
http://hexus.net/tech/reviews/cpu/56005-in...k-22nm-haswell/
http://www.techspot.com/review/679-intel-h...-core-i7-4770k/
http://benchmarkreviews.com/index.php?opti...=1159&Itemid=63
http://www.rwlabs.com/article.php?id=829
http://www.pcper.com/reviews/Processors/Ha...nd-Architecture
http://www.vortez.net/articles_pages/intel...k_review,1.html

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It is just for lulz. I will post the real results later tonight when the NDA is lifted at 11pm  smile.gif
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bro you make me want to rush and buy one 4770k just now. vmad.gif 9.0ghz drool.gif


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Looking forward for the oc bro. smile.gif BTW whats the tjmax for haswell proc?
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QUOTE(ketapang @ Jun 1 2013, 11:39 PM)
Looking forward for the oc bro. smile.gif BTW whats the tjmax for haswell proc?
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Dafuq did I just read. 9.0ghz on water???
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based on reviews, temps doesn't look great sad.gif I guess many will start doing delidding to their processor (if its still possible)...
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Just simple............very HOT.........and max speed (GHz) is lower then Ivy. nod.gif
Haswell is considerable upgrading for those who don't have a Sandy or better.

Open air case, Corsair H100, 1.2v @ 4.6GHz and this things hitting 91c :



As boards chipsets are still on C1 revision........
Haswell has USB 3.0 issues with 14 out of 22 tested USB drives

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Yesterday, I have put Haswell for a spin on my watercooled test bench.

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CPU: Intel Core i7 4770K
MB: ASUS Maximus VI Extreme, BIOS 0607
DRAM: G.Skill TridentX 11-13-13-25-1T 2 X 4GB
GPU: Gigabyte HD7970, MSI's special BIOS, Driver Catalyst 13.6 beta
Storage: 2x Crucial M4 128GB raid0, FW 000F
ODD: LiteON DVD-RW
PSU: Corsair AX1200
Cooling: Custom watercooling - EK Supreme HF plate #6 CPU waterblock, 2x XSPC RX360 radiator, Swiftech MCP655 pump, EK FC7970 GPU waterblock, EK Multioption X2 Advanced reservoir, XSPC
1/2" ID 3/4" OD white tubing, 12x Scythe GT AP-15 1850rpm 120mm fan + Aerocool Shark 120mm fan, Coolaboratory Liquid Pro thermalpaste etc.
Casing: Dismatech Easy Dual V2 Bench Table
OS: Windows 7 Ultimate 64-bit SP1

At stock clock Haswell is actually a lot better than Ivy, in terms of heat and performance. It is not hot at all.

4770K @ stock

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Somehow when it comes to overclocking, things became different.
Don't know if it's just me but my 4770K is a dud, it loves voltage. Best it could do is 4.8GHz only.

4770K @ 4.8GHz

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4770K vs 3770K
Look at the Cinebench score, the 4770K @ 4.6GHz (undelidded) performs on par with the 3770K @ 5.0GHz (A golden chip which must be delidded)

4770K @ 4.6GHz
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3770K @ 5.0GHz
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Considering Haswell has 7-10% more IPC performance than Ivy, Haswell is actually better than Ivy in terms of overclocking and heat.
As said earlier, my retail 4770K could be a bad chip. Ahh looks like I have to play with silicon lottery again, to hunt for a golden chip.

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What are the temps of 4770K @ 4.8GHz? Been reading reviews everyone is having really high temps with haswell sad.gif
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What are the temps of 4770K @ 4.8GHz? Been reading reviews everyone is having really high temps with haswell sad.gif
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98C max.
4770K @ 4.8 will outperform 3770K @ 5.0 anytime.
Besides that you need a golden 3770K and delidding for such overclock.

So, Haswell > Ivy.

4770K just need 6.7GHz to overtake 3770K @ 7GHz
Haswell Day 1 - Fredyama takes down SuperPI 32M record at 6.7GHz

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I feel not well sad.gif Still NO PCIe v3.0 ----> waiting Haswell v2
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QUOTE(khaidir1976 @ Jun 2 2013, 02:00 PM)
I feel not well sad.gif Still NO PCIe v3.0 ----> waiting Haswell v2
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I don't know why the chart decided to mention like that but i5 and i7 Haswell and IB do support PCIe 3.0.
Wait for IB-E in Sep 2013, but prepare to pay more for enthusiast class.
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The front end...

The most significant difference in Haswell’s front-end is undoubtedly support for the various instruction set extensions outlined below. At a high level, instruction fetch and decode microarchitecture is largely similar to Sandy Bridge. There are a number of subtle enhancements, but the concepts and many of the details are the same.

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very strong IMC you got there.. shocking.gif
or is it normal for HASWELL to have such high IMC? drool.gif
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QUOTE(owikh84 @ Jun 2 2013, 03:08 PM)
I don't know why the chart decided to mention like that but i5 and i7 Haswell and IB do support PCIe 3.0.
Wait for IB-E in Sep 2013, but prepare to pay more for enthusiast class.
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QUOTE(stasio @ Jun 2 2013, 07:31 AM)
Just simple............very HOT.........and max speed (GHz) is lower then Ivy.  nod.gif
Haswell is considerable upgrading for those who don't have a Sandy or better.

Open air case, Corsair H100, 1.2v @ 4.6GHz and this things hitting 91c :



As boards chipsets are still on C1 revision........
Haswell has USB 3.0 issues with 14 out of 22 tested USB drives
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wow, that's really high temp.

3770k myself 4.6ghz hit 70C max only. corsair h110 (almost same cooler with h100)
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Wah 98C, so hot.
Anyway, owikh, would love to see you overclock it to 5.0.
Maybe overclock it at 0.9v.

I already pre-ordered mine with maximus vi genez.
I'll post my result here soon with air cooling.
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QUOTE(lengchai86 @ Jun 2 2013, 05:33 PM)
very strong IMC you got there..  shocking.gif
or is it normal for HASWELL to have such high IMC?  drool.gif
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Haswell has strong IMC than Ivy. I have seen a lot of leaked results people managed to push it to to 3000+

QUOTE(Dennos @ Jun 2 2013, 05:56 PM)
HASWELL NB comes with frequency tuning lol
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Haswell overclocking style is different from Ivy. More options, more playability.

QUOTE(scwong93 @ Jun 2 2013, 10:21 PM)
wow, that's really high temp.
3770k myself 4.6ghz hit 70C max only. corsair h110 (almost same cooler with h100)

Again people, do not compare Haswell @ 4.6 vs Ivy @ 4.6 since Haswell has 10% improved IPC over Ivy.
It's like performance of Haswell @ 4.6 = Ivy @ 5.0
Can your Ivy chip do 5.0 under water?
And H110 is better than H100.
Think about it again. nod.gif

QUOTE(JakeGFX @ Jun 2 2013, 10:40 PM)
Wah 98C, so hot.
Anyway, owikh, would love to see you overclock it to 5.0.
Maybe overclock it at 0.9v.

I already pre-ordered mine with maximus vi genez.
I'll post my result here soon with air cooling.
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My 4770K is a bad chip. 4.9 is not bootable into windows. Stuck at logon screen.
Max is 4.8 only.

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Haswell has strong IMC than Ivy. I have seen a lot of leaked results people managed to push it to to 3000+
Haswell overclocking style is different from Ivy. More options, more playability.
Again people, do not compare Haswell @ 4.6 vs Ivy @ 4.6 since Haswell has 10% improved IPC over Ivy.
It's like performance of Haswell @ 4.6 = Ivy @ 5.0
Can your Ivy chip do 5.0 under water?
And H110 is better than H100.
Think about it again.  nod.gif

My 4770K is a bad chip. 4.9 is not bootable into windows. Stuck at logon screen.
Max is 4.8 only.
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and also the IMC laugh.gif

really want to check 1st before upgrading to haswell.

now still using 3770k.....
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M6e bios screens. Ty
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Not much similarity with Z87 GB BIOS



I also asking for Mem TweakIT 2.00.01,but no response. sweat.gif
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QUOTE(owikh84 @ Jun 3 2013, 12:57 AM)
My 4770K is a bad chip. 4.9 is not bootable into windows. Stuck at logon screen.
Max is 4.8 only.
Guys already start SuperPi32m 5GHz Haswell thread:

http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showth...l-Out-Challenge!

AIDA64 Extreme Edition v3.00.2500

http://download.aida64.com/aida64extreme300.exe
http://download.aida64.com/aida64extreme300.zip

Multi-threaded cache and memory bandwidth benchmarks with AVX2, AVX and SSE optimizations
Block-random cache and memory latency benchmark
Optimized 64-bit benchmarks for AMD “Kabini” and “Temash” APUs
AVX2 and FMA optimized 64-bit benchmarks for Intel “Haswell” processors
Preliminary support for L4 cache of Intel “Crystal Well” processors
Crucial M500, OCZ Vertex 450 SSD support
GPU details for AMD Radeon HD 7990 “Malta” and nVIDIA GeForce 700 Series

http://www.aida64.com/whatsnew/memory-benc...aswell-l4-cache
http://www.aida64.com/news/finalwire-aida6...cache-windows-8

......Big difference in Read / Write / Copy / Latency..... flex.gif

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bios screenshots of m6e bro to complete the review.

ty.
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I also asking for Mem TweakIT 2.00.01,but no response.  sweat.gif
Hope will be on line soon.
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You typo earlier I thought you were looking for 2.01 doh.gif
No problem. I will upload it tonight.

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Thanks Owi.........

here you have new BIOS and some guide for Asus:
http://www.kingpincooling.com/forum/showthread.php?t=2304

4770K IHS Removed..... rclxms.gif

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Thanks Owi.........

here you have new BIOS and some guide for Asus:
http://www.kingpincooling.com/forum/showthread.php?t=2304

4770k /4670K IHS Removed..... rclxms.gif

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The TIM looks similar to that has been used on Ivy.
But I was wonder whether it is necessary to delid Haswell since on stock clock 4770K is 22C cooler than 3770K.

3770K ==> 75C max
4770K ==> 53C max
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Owikh ure the only one who sayin its cooler on stock clocks but thats on highend custom water

Not true on aircooling.

Btw another oc guide
http://www.overclockers.com/3step-guide-to...k-intel-haswell
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Another motherboard review for HASWELL -- MSI Z87-GD65 GAMING @ techpowerup

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but according to a few ppl who been clocking haswell

mem clocking comes at the price of cpu clock.

so most are doing high bclk tighter mem clocks.



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Anybody have MemTweakIT 2.00.01 ?
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MeMTweakIT 2.00.01

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Uploaded for you bro.

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Nice! But I doubt that Team will release it to the public.
even their 2800C11 kit I have never seen any people manage to get a hand on it.
More likely just show off to the press. sweat.gif

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Just ordered a 4670k with Asrock Z87 extreme4 to replace my 5-6 years old Q6600 with P35-DS3.

Really out of touch with overclocking new CPUs and need a few pointers from you guys.

If I just want to overclock the 4670k without increasing the voltage, how far can I go? I just have to increase the multiplier until it is unstable?

Or maybe just increase vcore a bit? Default vcore is 0.75v right? hmm.gif

Any help from sifus is much appreciated! biggrin.gif
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Nice! But I doubt that Team will release it to the public.
even their 2800C11 kit I have never seen any people manage to get a hand on it.
More likely just show off to the press.  sweat.gif
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I got felling this time,they will release to public.
Maybe not 11-13-13 ,but 12-14-14.
Btw,CPU-Z is OK now?

Here is one more CPU-Z 1.64.2 but x32-bit dated today:

http://www.mediafire.com/?cmo97tshjbz3b9s

Edit:

Team Group Xtreem Series, DDR3-3000, CL11 - 8 GB Kit

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MVIE flashed to BIOS 0006, now 5.0 is bootable and bencable at 2 cores. Max temp 72C although the vCore is considered high. For record, 3770K @ 5.0 can easily hit 105C and throttled.

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QUOTE(stasio @ Jun 3 2013, 10:52 PM)
I got felling this time,they will release to public.
Maybe not 11-13-13 ,but 12-14-14.
Btw,CPU-Z is OK now?

Here is one more CPU-Z 1.64.2 but x32-bit dated today:

http://www.mediafire.com/?cmo97tshjbz3b9s
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CPU-Z 1.64.0 works fine smile.gif
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.......Look for L312B332 batch (l0ud_sil3nc3)
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showth...l=1#post5191332

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A good start for 32m.

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head coolice was there
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Our coolice teamed up with Andre is a biggest winner. Congrats to them rclxms.gif

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hmm new aida. lol 2133 C7 at p67 read alredy 31.6k. up from previous 20++k.. personally this read is kindda wrong so need to check with sandra

and latency now higher at 44.3k.

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Just ordered a 4670k with Asrock Z87 extreme4 to replace my 5-6 years old Q6600 with P35-DS3.

Really out of touch with overclocking new CPUs and need a few pointers from you guys.

If I just want to overclock the 4670k without increasing the voltage, how far can I go? I just have to increase the multiplier until it is unstable?

Or maybe just increase vcore a bit? Default vcore is 0.75v right?  hmm.gif

Any help from sifus is much appreciated!  biggrin.gif
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MY bad 4770K's VID is 1.05v.
Can keep using this VID up to 4.1GHz, which is supposed to perform equal to a 3770K @ 4.3-4.4GHz.

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hmm new aida. lol 2133 C7 at p67 read alredy 31.6k. up from previous 20++k.. personally this read is kindda wrong so need to check with sandra

and latency now higher at 44.3k.
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But more importantly, we've replaced the outdated set of memory benchmarks with brand new ones.  The new bandwidth (read, write copy) benchmarks now use multiple threads to squeeze out every last bit of performance from the caches and the memory modules.  On modern multi-core processors, using the old single-threaded benchmarks you couldn't see the actual memory bandwidth, but only the memory bandwidth available for single-threaded applications.  With the new benchmarks you will however get considerably higher scores, much closer to the theoretical memory bandwidth available.  It is especially true for 3-channel and 4-channel memory configurations, such as Intel X58 and X79 based high-end desktop systems; and also for NUMA-enabled multi-socket systems, such as 2- and 4-way AMD Opteron and Intel Xeon based servers and workstations.  For example:

Core i7-3960X with X79 chipset and 4-channel DDR3-1600:

- AIDA64 v2.85 Memory Read: 16825 MB/s  [ old ]
- AIDA64 v3.00 Memory Read: 45640 MB/s  [ new ]

We've also implemented multi-threaded cache benchmarks, that now include support for the latest AVX and AVX2 instruction set extensions.  Thanks to using all CPU cores for the cache benchmarks, you will get dramatically different cache bandwidth scores than with the old benchmarks.  For example:

Core i7-3960X with X79 chipset and 4-channel DDR3-1600:

- AIDA64 v2.85 L1 Cache Read: 121.8 GB/s  [ old ]
- AIDA64 v3.00 L1 Cache Read: 674.7 GB/s  [ new ]


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QUOTE(owikh84 @ Jun 4 2013, 07:29 AM)
Can keep using this VID up to 4.1GHz, which is supposed to perform equal to a 3770K @ 4.5GHz.
Only in Cinebench or all other application? hmm.gif

Edit:
hehe,today Mem tweakIT 2.00.01 on line
http://dlcdnet.asus.com/pub/ASUS/misc/util..._8_VER20001.zip

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Unbuffered DDR3 SDRAM in 240-pin DIMM
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Intel XMP 1.3 (Extreme Memory Profile) support
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@owikh any chance u delidding your 4770k? want to see how's the temp when using coollaboratory liquid pro/ultra! brows.gif
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4770K @ 5.0GHz | G.Skill Trident 2800C11 2X4GB @ 2933 11-14-14-25-1T

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@owikh any chance u delidding your 4770k? want to see how's the temp when using coollaboratory liquid pro/ultra!  brows.gif
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It is not a good chip to delid.
I will look for a golden chip then only decide whether to go with the same way as Ivy.

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5.0 max temp is?
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QUOTE(owikh84 @ Jun 3 2013, 11:07 PM)
MVIE flashed to BIOS 0006, now 5.0 is bootable and bencable at 2 cores. Max temp 72C although the vCore is considered high. For record, 3770K @ 5.0 can easily hit 105C and throttled.
4 cores might need more juice.
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It is not a good chip to delid.
I will look for a golden chip then only decide whether to go with the same way as Ivy.
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Sorry...I am very noob and no understand..
U say 4.8 max temp is 98 degree but why 5.0 max temp is 72 degree. That why I no sure and ask u again?
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QUOTE(shin6619 @ Jun 4 2013, 08:15 PM)
Sorry...I am very noob and no understand..
U say 4.8 max temp is 98 degree but why 5.0 max temp is 72 degree. That why I no sure and ask u again?
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5.0 is running on 2 cores 2 threads only
4.8 is 4 cores 8 threads

both clocks are not for 24/7 but more to benching purpose.
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QUOTE(owikh84 @ Jun 4 2013, 08:36 PM)
5.0 is running on 2 cores 2 threads only
4.8 is 4 cores 8 threads

both clocks are not for 24/7 but more to benching purpose.
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Thanks for explain smile.gif
How ur golden 3770k, still selling? smile.gif
I wish to ask :different type of mobo affect how high a proc go?
Example : my bad 3770k need 1.305 to 4.5ghz in p8z68-v, if I change to Maximus mobo, any different to result? More low voltage or higher oc ?

Sorry for asking ivy here

Worth or no upgrade from 3770k to 4770k ? I knew can google the answer but I wish to hear ur own reason smile.gif tqvm
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i think its the same result you will get.

the frequency and voltage will be affect by individual chip performance.

like my asrock etreme 6 + 3770k can go to 4.6ghz @ 1.28V without blue screen for weeks.
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Thanks for explain smile.gif
How ur golden 3770k, still selling? smile.gif
I wish to ask :different type of  mobo affect how high a proc go?
Example : my bad 3770k need 1.305 to 4.5ghz in p8z68-v, if I change to Maximus mobo, any different to result? More low voltage or higher oc ?

Sorry for asking ivy here

Worth or no upgrade from 3770k to 4770k ? I knew can google the answer but I wish to hear ur own reason smile.gif tqvm
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Grab the ASRock OC Formula Z77 and I can guarantee you will get at least 0.06v lower than any ROG Z77.
No idea on the V to ROG though.
Haswell is faster, has more features, cooler and lower power consumption etc.
Worth or not it's up for you to decide.
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i think its the same result you will get.

the frequency and voltage will be affect by individual chip performance.

like my asrock etreme 6 + 3770k can go to 4.6ghz @ 1.28V without blue screen for weeks.
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If same , rm1xxx mobo for ?
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QUOTE(owikh84 @ Jun 4 2013, 11:51 PM)
Grab the ASRock OC Formula Z77 and I can guarantee you will get at least 0.06v lower than any ROG Z77.
No idea on the V to ROG though.
Haswell is faster, has more features, cooler and lower power consumption etc.
Worth or not it's up for you to decide.
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Thanks for answering my question.
Why asrock can lower the voltage ?
Why u still go ROG?
Sorry for many question.

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QUOTE(shin6619 @ Jun 5 2013, 12:15 AM)
If same ,  rm1xxx mobo  for  ?
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all brands extreme mobo are quite the same lar.

some have higher ram speed oc and have some extra pci-e slots.

and also more usb ports and also the quality of the board that makes the board more expensive.
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QUOTE(owikh84 @ Jun 4 2013, 11:54 PM)
Hynix CFR RAM @ 3000MHz 11-14-14-25-1T @ 1.84v passed 32m on air.

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hmm 5ghz at 1.58vcore? temp looks good at 30c so will the cpu degrade?
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First Delidded Haswell result

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Parameters:
Speedstep disabled on manual Vcore
1.225V (1.236V on CPU-Z) @ 4.3ghz
Noctua NH-D14 with 2x NF-A15 fans on open test bench
Running Prime95 for 1 hour
Room temp ~25C

Pre-delid

Idle temp: ~40C
Avg load temp: ~70C
Peak temps: 83C

Post Delid

Idle temp: ~35C
Avg load temp: ~55-60C
Peak temp: 72C

My Coollaboratory Liquid Ultra should come in tomorrow so I'll update this thread. Also with some pics!


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wasnt that on a 4670k.

so basically looking at that result on a open air test bench and running a noctua cooler...

u can forget running 4.5ghz in malaysia on air/aio wc even at 1.2v for 4770k.
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Nice "Golden" 4770K....4.9GHz @ 1.25 Vcore spotted.

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thats not gold

just another es

so far all the es are doing well.
heck hardware canucks one does stock voltage already 4.5ghz.
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Yea,I know.
I mean "Golden" in a sence of low voltage.

Edit:
Gskill F3-2933C12D-8GTXDG available rclxms.gif ......USD400 sweat.gif
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx...N82E16820231683

http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showth...062#post5192062

DDR3 2933

http://www.newegg.com/Product/ProductList....8PC3%2023400%29

DDR3 3000 also........ USD2000 rclxub.gif

http://www.newegg.com/Product/ProductList....8PC3%2024000%29

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G.Skill starts selling Haswell certified memory kit.

G.SKILL Trident X Series 16GB (4 x 4GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 3000 (PC3 24000) Desktop Memory Model F3-3000C12Q-16GTXDG for $4000

G.SKILL Trident X Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 3000 (PC3 24000) Desktop Memory Model F3-3000C12D-8GTXDG for $2000

G.SKILL Trident X Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 2933 (PC3 23400) Desktop Memory Model F3-2933C12D-8GTXDG for $400

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Dumo from XS OCed to 3544 @ 1.775V

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G.Skill DDR3 2800 Haswell certified memory kits available also (2666 as well).

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx...N82E16820231679
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx...N82E16820231680
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx...N82E16820231681

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My 4770K is proven to be a voltage lover.

4.6GHz @ 1.44v prime95 for 3 hours with RAM at XMP

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So, it's time for a [WTS] biggrin.gif

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3060 validated. That's the max of my chip's IMC could squeeze out.

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QUOTE(owikh84 @ Jun 7 2013, 09:03 AM)
My 4770K is proven to be a voltage lover.

4.6GHz @ 1.44v prime95 for 3 hours with RAM at XMP

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So, it's time for a [WTS]  biggrin.gif
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Have u tested the accuracy on the voltage reported vs set vs dmm read??

Vdimm xmp at 1.67??
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QUOTE(owikh84 @ Jun 7 2013, 09:03 AM)
My 4770K is proven to be a voltage lover.

4.6GHz @ 1.44v prime95 for 3 hours with RAM at XMP

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So, it's time for a [WTS]  biggrin.gif
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so are you going to hunt for golden chip again? brows.gif
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so are you going to hunt for golden chip again?  brows.gif
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Yes of course, 4 retails 4770K incoming.

if no luck then i have to fork out more to get a second hand one which is proven to be a golden chip like i spent on previous 2600K and 3770K. doh.gif sweat.gif

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QUOTE(owikh84 @ Jun 7 2013, 06:14 PM)
Yes of course, 4 retails 4770K incoming.

if no luck then i have to fork out more to get a second hand one which is proven to be a golden chip like i spent on previous 2600K and 3770K.  doh.gif  sweat.gif

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U spend a lot $$$ for golden chip!!!
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yeah, it is sad that i still get insulted with disrespect remarks for selling golden chip more than a brand new price. sad.gif

But i don't blame them because you need to have at least 100 posts to access to this Garage Sales which has quite a number of great stuffs, at extreme price tags. If you managed to access than only you will understand the cost of the so called golden or platinum chip.

I still remember I got laughed, trolled and labeled as a hardware killer when they were dead on me. cry.gif I don't mind, i just move on.

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QUOTE(owikh84 @ Jun 7 2013, 06:49 PM)
yeah, it is sad that i still get insulted with disrespect remarks for selling golden chip more than a brand new price.  sad.gif

But i don't blame them because you need to have at least 100 posts to excess to this Garage Sales which has quite a number of great stuffs, at extreme price tags. If you managed to excess than only you will understand the cost of the so called golden or platinum chip.

I still remember I got laughed, trolled and labeled as a hardware killer when they were dead on me. cry.gif I don't mind, i just move on.

Well nevermind, we are all still learning.  smile.gif
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Dont sad ..they just don't understand what golden chip means and used for what..or they are not extreme overclockers ..that's why they flaming there ...

just changed ivy bridge but when saw haswell..my mouth is like drool.gif

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QUOTE(owikh84 @ Jun 7 2013, 06:49 PM)
yeah, it is sad that i still get insulted with disrespect remarks for selling golden chip more than a brand new price.  sad.gif

But i don't blame them because you need to have at least 100 posts to access to this Garage Sales which has quite a number of great stuffs, at extreme price tags. If you managed to access than only you will understand the cost of the so called golden or platinum chip.

I still remember I got laughed, trolled and labeled as a hardware killer when they were dead on me. cry.gif I don't mind, i just move on.

Well nevermind, we are all still learning.  smile.gif
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Don't sad...different ppl deifferent needs...
some ppl likes pets then they can spend many thousands ringgit for a champion dog/cat...
some ppl oso spend $$$$ for sound system or modify car....
some girls can spend $$$$ for a handbag/shoes (LV/channel...).. rite?

100% support you flex.gif

I oso wish to have a golden 3770k like yours.. drool.gif
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Mr owikh isnt prime seems more sensitive to core stability but aida heats up more

but so far init mine does 4.5ghz at 1.24v stable

but hmm psc ram clockin aint easy

also i noticed. the stock bios that came with the board compared to the bios shamino put up.. the dram voltage was less on the asus software read.

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QUOTE(cstkl1 @ Jun 7 2013, 05:47 PM)
Have u tested the accuracy on the voltage reported vs set vs dmm read??

Vdimm xmp at 1.67??
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vdimm, BIOS set 1.66v, AI reads 1.67v, DMM reads 1.67v.

QUOTE(cstkl1 @ Jun 8 2013, 01:03 AM)
Mr owikh isnt prime seems more sensitive to core stability but aida heats up more

but so far init mine does 4.5ghz at 1.24v stable

but hmm psc ram clockin aint easy

also i noticed. the stock bios that came with the board compared to the bios shamino put up.. the dram voltage was less on the asus software read.
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Not sure about which stability tool is more stressful.
Prime95 is still not updated with Haswell, you can see "unknown processor" on top pane.
LinX be it old or new version w/ AVX instruction is not working on Haswell, giving error in less than a minute. There is an XS guy posting LinX result with 4670K which is working fine. IN another thread he mentioned that after delidding chip he gets 10C drop which is really a huge improvement.
AIDA is recommended by ASUS and Intel but it doesn't stress much on IMC/RAM. The heat output is roughly the same as Prime95.

4770K @ 4.6GHz 1.44v

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Like I mentioned in our PMs it is not easy to clock PSC and BBSE on Haswell. I'm not sure whether it is the BIOS or IMC doesn't like this ICs, they need a lot of vdimm to pass 32m.

PSC @ 2400 7-11-7-1T @ 1.9v, 2500 or 2600 8-12-8 no POST
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BBSE @ 2400 8-11-7-2T @ 1.9v, 1T or 2500 not POST
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P/S: As you can see the scores are better than my Hynix kits @ 2800, 2933, 3000 because I didn't play with 2nd and 3rd timings whereas the BBSE and PSC are set with mem preset loaded.

There's a newer and latest BIOS 0013 for MVIE by shamino in the first post, somehow it needs more vCore at least for me.
Also, I noticed that ASUS doesn't included LucidLogix Virtu app in their MVIE package and no Thunderbolt port as compared to MVE. You have to pay for the latest Lucid app or use the older available at MVE download support website

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Hmm prime for me at 1.24 85c. Aida 95c

Thunderbolt is a external port at the bottom of the board
The board is a atx. So much smaller than my m4e

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Hmm prime for me at 1.24 85c. Aida 95c

Thunderbolt is a external port at the bottom of the board
The board is a atx. So much smaller than my m4e
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Are you using the latest Prime95 27.9 which includes AVX libraries. Not AVX2 though not sure AIDA is based on AVX or AVX2.

Looks like they change TB port to header/connector.
On MVE:
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MVIE-Z: Extended ATX: 12 inch x 10.6 inch ( 30.5 cm x 26.9 cm )
MVE: Extended ATX: 12.0 inch x 10.7 inch ( 30.5 cm x 27.2 cm )
MVIE: ATX: 12 inch x 9.6 inch ( 30.5 cm x 24.4 cm )

Smaller width means on multi graphics cards setup it is gonna be harder to push in and pull out the SATA cables since the cards will cover SATA ports.

Btw, something wrong with the efficiency of the stock IRST and IRST 12.6.0.1033 WHQL on raid0.

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Yeah latest prime.
Aida hitting higher
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Spending more time just to get 2133 c7 to work stable.
Doing everything manually. Lol. No presets will work
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Btw i noticed since i am doing air clocking. Although core temp says 85c but the air coming out from the cooler is not hot at all

So guess die size n the tim issue.
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QUOTE(cstkl1 @ Jun 8 2013, 11:08 AM)
Yeah latest prime.
Aida hitting higher
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Weird.

4770K @ 4.5GHz @ 1.3v

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Spending more time just to get 2133 c7 to work stable.
Doing everything manually. Lol. No presets will work
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I have reported this issue to Raja@ASUS, let's see how maybe the preset timings or auto are too tighten.

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Well hmm haswell adventure. so far tested my psc kit. it requires 0.02v more on m6e compared on m4e at 1.62v. (not very happy abt this) 2133 C7. This is my fully stable clocks with aircooling maxing out at 95c on aida and 93c on prime. tested both for 2 hours.
The board is seriously not noobie friendly. Its just lucky i know my psc chip very well.


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same batch as owikh.

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QUOTE(owikh84 @ Jun 7 2013, 06:49 PM)
yeah, it is sad that i still get insulted with disrespect remarks for selling golden chip more than a brand new price.  sad.gif

But i don't blame them because you need to have at least 100 posts to access to this Garage Sales which has quite a number of great stuffs, at extreme price tags. If you managed to access than only you will understand the cost of the so called golden or platinum chip.

I still remember I got laughed, trolled and labeled as a hardware killer when they were dead on me. cry.gif I don't mind, i just move on.

Well nevermind, we are all still learning.  smile.gif
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chill bro, just ignore him...

only enthusiast will understand, been through few forums & oh boy...there are people out there that will do just about anything to get a golden chip.
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really basket clocking on m6e

took two days to get 2133 C7 for psc
and now looks like another day or two for 2200 C7 to be fully stable

its easy to get it to boot and clock but kindda hard to get it fully stable as theres so many options and alot of the defaults or auto are wrong.

target for 24/7 is bclk 125, dram at 2250 C8 or relaxed C7 with uncore 4.5ghz

btw owikh i noticed i didnt stress the uncore at 4.5ghz more than 30 minutes.... but on the third test temps went at 100C and then trottle. If uncore left at 3.9ghz at default cache voltage no issue max at 93C.


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really basket clocking on m6e

took two days to get 2133 C7 for psc
and now looks like another day or two for 2200 C7 to be fully stable

its easy to get it to boot and clock but kindda hard to get it fully stable as theres so many options and alot of the defaults or auto are wrong.

target for 24/7 is bclk 125, dram at 2250 C8 or relaxed C7 with uncore 4.5ghz

btw owikh i noticed i didnt stress the uncore at 4.5ghz more than 30 minutes.... but on the third test temps went at 100C and then trottle. If uncore left at 3.9ghz at default cache voltage no issue max at 93C.
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It could be the IMC issues. Retail chip has (100-150)MHz less mem OC than ES according to replies I got.
I still didn't play with the uncore clocking expect it will contribute some heat to the chip.

BTW, AIDA doesn't stress as much as Prime95 in in the latter will give BSOD 124 & 101. Prime95 needs at least 1.3v for 4.5GHz but AIDA 1.215v. So, i will stop using AIDA for stability.

4770K @ 4.5GHz @ 1.215v
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Somehow, I still can't get the LinX working on Haswell I don't know what's wrong it keeps showing "memory is not enough?" error although I have tried selecting various memory/error size

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It could be the IMC issues. Retail chip has (100-150)MHz less mem OC than ES according to replies I got.
I still didn't play with the uncore clocking expect it will contribute some heat to the chip.

BTW, AIDA doesn't stress as much as Prime95 in in the latter will give BSOD 124 & 101. Prime95 needs at least 1.3v for 4.5GHz but AIDA 1.215v. So, i will stop using AIDA for stability.

4770K @ 4.5GHz @ 1.215v
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yeah same here. i could run 4.6ghz on aida at 1.2v. but bsod on prime. was doing like what asus said to do with 4.6 at 1.2v
then was upping up to 1.25v still bsod. so went down to 4.5ghz and then only can pass. so brought it down to 1.2375v set. i expect the 4.6 to 1.275v but no way to test it as cooler cant take it.

ran multipi linx. heat wasnt that much

i think linx has a issue on finding the cores rather than mem. cause if not howcome 4670k no issue.

only diff is ht and l3 cache mem .

uncore is quite hot cause my proc so far uncore = cpu speed means both at same voltage.
cannot get to the 3rd test on prime. will hit 100c++ n throttle.


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QUOTE(cstkl1 @ Jun 9 2013, 09:16 AM)
yeah same here. i could run 4.6ghz on aida at 1.2v. but bsod on prime. was doing like what asus said to do with 4.6 at 1.2v
then was upping up to 1.25v still bsod. so went down to 4.5ghz and then only can pass. so brought it down to 1.2375v set. i expect the 4.6 to 1.275v but no way to test it as cooler cant take it.

ran multipi linx. heat wasnt that much

i think linx has a issue on finding the cores rather than mem. cause if not howcome 4670k no issue.

only diff is ht and l3 cache mem .

uncore is quite hot cause my proc so far uncore = cpu speed means both at same voltage.
cannot get to the 3rd test on prime. will hit 100c++ n throttle.
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Looks like LinX needs a newer version for i7 Haswell.

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btw can u update ure aida to the latest.
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I'm still using AIDA64 3.00.2500 but I saw the update msg popped up during priming lol.
Downloading now...

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QUOTE(owikh84 @ Jun 9 2013, 09:31 AM)
Looks like LinX needs a newer version for i7 Haswell.

I'm still using AIDA64 3.00.2500 but I saw the update msg popped up during priming lol.
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i thought u were using older one that that cause ure bandwidth mem screens are older.

want to compare ure high clocks with mine lower latency.

btw are u running eist and c-state enabled.


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QUOTE(cstkl1 @ Jun 9 2013, 09:34 AM)
i thought u were using older one that that cause ure bandwidth mem screens are older.

want to compare ure high clocks with mine lower latency.

btw are u running eist and c-state enabled.
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ahh craps I picked the wrong shortcut lol. Sometimes I used older sometimes newer.

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My highly clocked mem I didn't tweak the latency boundary and tWCL yet.
For instance, latency boundary is usually 12 at auto default whist my RAM is capable of doing 8 at 2800.
tWCL is default 10 when my mem is 8 capable.

AIDA64 updated to 3.00.2505 beta, stability seems nothing changes. 4.5GHz is still stable @ 1.216v. Prime95 @ 1.3v failed in 1 hour. sweat.gif

EIST is enabled and C1E is disabled double checked through RealTemp.
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QUOTE(owikh84 @ Jun 9 2013, 10:10 AM)
ahh craps I picked the wrong shortcut lol. Sometimes I used older sometimes newer.

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My highly clocked mem I didn't tweak the latency boundary and tWCL yet.
For instance, latency boundary is usually 12 at auto default whist my RAM is capable of doing 8 at 2800.
tWCL is default 10 when my mem is 8 capable.

AIDA64 updated to 3.00.2505 beta, stability seems nothing changes. 4.5GHz is still stable @ 1.216v. Prime95 @ 1.3v failed in 1 hour.  sweat.gif

EIST is enabled and C1E is disabled double checked through RealTemp.
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btw have u changed ure vccin to performance. if not it will flux.

eh was hoping to c ure aida mem benchmark in all 8 threads.
4.5ghz upgrade difference.
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L1 cache on steroids.

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c-state issue in crysis 3.

btw have u changed ure vccin to performance. if not it will flux.

eh was hoping to c ure aida mem benchmark in all 8 threads.
4.5ghz upgrade difference.
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Ty. Need to beat that sandy read/write to make this upgrade totaly a better setup.

So far clocking on this board is pretty interesting.
Its actually getting fun. 2200c7 almost perfect.
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Anybody tried delidding and reapply the tim?
Some guys at ocn have successfully delidded and near 20°c temperature difference
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Anybody tried delidding and reapply the tim?
Some guys at ocn have successfully delidded and near 20°c temperature difference
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Not going to do another sandy. That time took 14cpu. Rm200 lost on each.

Bur got a feeling need to wait for costa batch

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MY bad 4770K's VID is 1.05v.
Can keep using this VID up to 4.1GHz, which is supposed to perform equal to a 3770K @ 4.3-4.4GHz.

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Sorry, didn't notice your reply.

Are 4770k VID usually that high? My 4670k VID is 0.8250v.

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i crash alot with IBT
Prime seems to last forever...

quite upset from Ivy 4.7ghz 1.25V ....down to Haswell 1.28v = 4.4ghz.......haiz



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Sorry, didn't notice your reply.

Are 4770k VID usually that high? My 4670k VID is 0.8250v.

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I am also unaccustomed to the vcore on haswell. Idle at 0.888v while at load it is lower at 0.864v  rclxub.gif Isn't vcore at idle supposed to be lower (or rather, vcore at load higher)?  hmm.gif

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how bout IntelBurnTest....?
i crash alot with IBT
Prime seems to last forever...

quite upset from Ivy 4.7ghz 1.25V ....down to Haswell 1.28v = 4.4ghz.......haiz
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Bro, did you use the latest Prime95 27.9 in the first post of this thread?
Older version will not stress much and should use custom blend to stress all the memory.

Considering Haswell has 8-10% IPC improvement over Ivy, hence Haswell @ 4.4GHz is actually faster than Ivy @ 4.7GHz, cooler, less power consumption and what's more important newer and more features.


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Ahhh.... that's more like it! CPU-z makes sense now!

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Welcome to the club.  notworthy.gif
Bro, did you use the latest Prime95 27.9 in the first post of this thread?
Older version will not stress much and should use custom blend to stress all the memory.

Considering Haswell has 8-10% IPC improvement over Ivy, hence Haswell @ 4.4GHz is actually faster than Ivy @ 4.7GHz, cooler, less power consumption and what's more important newer and more features.
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I use the custom blend....but it runs few hours withour crash..but IBT...no luck....lol...

Hahaa...ya , feel the new tech......if its FB i would hav click "like" ...lol
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I use the custom blend....but it runs few hours withour crash..but IBT...no luck....lol...

Hahaa...ya , feel the new tech......if its FB i would hav click "like" ...lol
Awaiting some expert giv advise on Asrock features ....really confuse of the new oc setting.
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Welcome to the club.  notworthy.gif
Bro, did you use the latest Prime95 27.9 in the first post of this thread?
Older version will not stress much and should use custom blend to stress all the memory.

Considering Haswell has 8-10% IPC improvement over Ivy, hence Haswell @ 4.4GHz is actually faster than Ivy @ 4.7GHz, cooler, less power consumption and what's more important newer and more features.
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hmm bro curious
in yesterday talk was talking to peter and also was looking at their presentation. they said use the red slots.

but hmm on m6e compared to m4e and m5e. the red slots are a1,b1. even the book says to use the black slots.

so which mem slots are u using??

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I use the custom blend....but it runs few hours withour crash..but IBT...no luck....lol...

Hahaa...ya , feel the new tech......if its FB i would hav click "like" ...lol
Awaiting some expert giv advise on Asrock features ....really confuse of the new oc setting.
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QUOTE(cstkl1 @ Jun 10 2013, 07:41 AM)
hmm bro curious
in yesterday talk was talking to peter and also was looking at their presentation. they said use the red slots.

but hmm on m6e compared to m4e and m5e. the red slots are a1,b1. even the book says to use the black slots.

so which mem slots are u using??
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the reviewer's guide that Asus sent me suggested to use red slots that are closest to the CPU socket, followed by black slots. Sometimes when my RAM is giving 55 debug code i will change to black dimms then only it POST.

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Hmm back to 1.6v for 2133c7.
I am really getting to know all the mem settings. Will post it up once complete. Only for now the rtl cant set it properly.

I am using black. Cannot use red cause of my fan.
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Just to share. so far this is stable for me

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damn it 3dmark11 physics so close to 12k mark.

i finally get it why haswell is so cool. its very efficient. every mhz u draw out from it u will see benchies flying.

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Just to share. so far this is stable for me

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nice.
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Before this im using H100i but temp at load was around 88 to 90...then i change to V6GT change the fan..and the result was very impressive...i mean for constant running on heavy load 4.5 with current temp around 81 and below was good enough for me...i even can touch the heatsink still not even hot. but i need to lower the vcore and see the result.
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TQ.

Before this im using H100i but temp at load was around 88 to 90...then i change to V6GT change the fan..and the result was very impressive...i mean for constant running on heavy load 4.5 with current temp around 81 and below was good enough for me...i even can touch the heatsink still not even hot. but i need to lower the vcore and see the result.
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same here
before i tested a lot of AIO wc coolers. So far none beat my thermalright venomous black full nickel with two noiseblockers mp12.
even silverarrow SB-E Extreme but that one was on the default fan.


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Nice try. But I can see that you are using an older Prime95 which doesn't really stress the Haswell to the correct level.
Pls use the latest Prime95 27.9 posted in the first post of this thread, which has AVX library.
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Guys, im stuck at 4.1Ghz..
maybe my RAM prob? im using Kingston hyper x KHX1866c9D3K2/8GX

my mobo is maximus vi extreme, i74770k, noctua NH-D41,

Please help..
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Guys, im stuck at 4.1Ghz..
maybe my RAM prob? im using Kingston hyper x KHX1866c9D3K2/8GX

my mobo is maximus vi extreme, i74770k, noctua NH-D41,

Please help..
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i knew this was going to happen with ppl buying the m6e and hoping plug and play and oc.

the bios aint ready for that.

tested occt linx. it works with avx. interesting part sandy each run was about a min before the cool/heat. this was doing it every 15-20secs.

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QUOTE(chidorizzz @ Jun 11 2013, 10:25 AM)
Guys, im stuck at 4.1Ghz..
maybe my RAM prob? im using Kingston hyper x KHX1866c9D3K2/8GX

my mobo is maximus vi extreme, i74770k, noctua NH-D41,

Please help..
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what is the symptom? Unable to post or stuck at Windows logon screen?
The most suspected cause is insufficient vCore. Try upping it slightly to 1.1v etc.


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QUOTE(cstkl1 @ Jun 11 2013, 10:14 AM)
same here
before i tested a lot of AIO wc coolers. So far none beat my thermalright venomous black full nickel with two noiseblockers mp12.
even silverarrow SB-E Extreme but that one was on the default fan.
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Im using V6GT with corsair SP120 Perfromance fan and its awesome. i tried with noctua premium nf12..still didnt perform well. H100i?? out of the league. but im interested with ur thermalright. mybe i wanna get soon and try on.

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Nice try. But I can see that you are using an older Prime95 which doesn't really stress the Haswell to the correct level.
Pls use the latest Prime95 27.9 posted in the first post of this thread, which has AVX library.
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what is the symptom? Unable to post or stuck at Windows logon screen?
The most suspected cause is insufficient vCore. Try upping it slightly to 1.1v etc.
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whenever i try to hit more then 4.1Ghz its will crash after is test is using prime95.. Even by using Asus AI Suites,same thing happen.
but the cpu temps was around 65-70.

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damn it 3dmark11 physics so close to 12k mark.

i finally get it why haswell is so cool. its very efficient. every mhz u draw out from it u will see benchies flying.

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So now you know... rclxms.gif thumbup.gif .
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QUOTE(sam60 @ Jun 11 2013, 11:07 AM)
Im using V6GT with corsair SP120 Perfromance fan and its awesome. i tried with noctua premium nf12..still didnt perform well. H100i?? out of the league. but im interested with ur thermalright. mybe i wanna get soon and try on.
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Thats actually a very ineffecient fan. Loud at 2k rpm. Get some mp12.
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Thats actually a very ineffecient fan. Loud at 2k rpm. Get some mp12.
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well i tested silverarrow sb-e extreme which is better than the noctua and still couldnt beat my thermalright ultra venomous x.

the problem with haswell is not transfering enough heat to the pipes and fins with the small die size.

heatsink base material is what we need here.

so got a feeling kryos silver that cost a bomb is going to be excellent for haswell.

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Guys.. I just oc-ed my i5 to 4.5ghz at 1.2v. Running IBT now. What's the best setting for IBT? Running it at very high now. And my temps so far is 75c max.
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Guys.. I just oc-ed my i5 to 4.5ghz at 1.2v. Running IBT now. What's the best setting for IBT? Running it at very high now. And my temps so far is 75c max.
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lots of sifu here notworthy.gif notworthy.gif I shall need your guidance once I get my hands on haswell laugh.gif

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OK got 1.6v at 0.85v VSSA stable with the lowest timings etc. Awesome read/write/copy

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Still a few more timings to finish but lol after 6 hours kindda tired.
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OK got 1.6v at 0.85v VSSA stable with the lowest timings etc. Awesome read/write/copy

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whoa...81!...on air cooler?
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Yes! Air cooler.. stock fan... that's why 81C! biggrin.gif

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Yes! Air cooler.. stock fan... that's why 81C!  biggrin.gif

Any one can recommend me a good CPU fan?
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Ure throttling.
Use a all in one water cooler like h80i or h100 etc. n in ure case use ram slot 1 n 3.

Reason for that cooler is because of the ram slots.

U can clock ram slot 2,4 but much harder to do that.
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ASUS T-Topology 2.0 is working fine here testing 2 vs 4 modules

2 modules -- 6m 17.871s
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Same as T-Topology 1.0 on Z77, 4 modules (populated DIMM) is faster than 2 modules, at the same memory settings and voltages.

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For extreme memory overclocking under full load, ASUS developed the world’s first 2nd generation T-Topology. It further optimizes layout to minimize coupling noise and signal reflection, increasing DRAM overclocking. Testing shows around 5% more OC margin under full load, and 10% OC margin growth for one-DIMM configurations. Thanks to 2nd generation T-Topology, Maximus VI Extreme sustains RAM speeds over 3000MHz.


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4x 4GB 2800MHz 11-14-14-25-1T is prime95- stable for 3 hours.

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4x 4GB 2800MHz 11-14-14-25-1T is prime95- stable for 3 hours.

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is this 1.65v set??
cause why is it running more than 1.65v. hmm funny i cant flash to shamino bios anymore. i tested it in the beginning and it sux and when back to 0503. and now wanted to go back but cannot.

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4x 4GB 2800MHz 11-14-14-25-1T is prime95- stable for 3 hours.

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may i know what type of cooler u using? 4.6 ghz with less 80 temp and 1.4 Vcore. cool

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may i know what type of cooler u using? 4.6 ghz with less 80 temp and 1.4 Vcore. cool
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Check his review thread of m6e. Theres a pic aswell.
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is this 1.65v set??
cause why is it running more than 1.65v. hmm funny i cant flash to shamino bios anymore. i tested it in the beginning and it sux and when back to 0503. and now wanted to go back but cannot.
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BIOS set is 1.66v, DMM reads 1.67v. Anything lower will result in error in HyperPi unless if the subtimings and command rate are loosen then only can reduce the vdimm etc.

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may i know what type of cooler u using? 4.6 ghz with less 80 temp and 1.4 Vcore. cool
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It is a custom watercooling kit consisted of EK Supreme HF plate #6 CPU waterblock, 2x XSPC RX360 radiator, Swiftech MCP655 pump, EK FC7970 GPU waterblock, EK Multioption X2 Advanced reservoir, XSPC 1/2" ID 3/4" OD white tubing, 12x Scythe GT AP-15 1850rpm 120mm fan + Aerocool Shark 120mm fan, Coolaboratory Liquid Pro thermalpaste etc.
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is this 1.65v set??
cause why is it running more than 1.65v. hmm funny i cant flash to shamino bios anymore. i tested it in the beginning and it sux and when back to 0503. and now wanted to go back but cannot.
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is this 1.65v set??
cause why is it running more than 1.65v. hmm funny i cant flash to shamino bios anymore. i tested it in the beginning and it sux and when back to 0503. and now wanted to go back but cannot.
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by ezflash or usb flashback?
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ezflash on bios setup.
really odd it was working fine last time.

think it was bios 0013.

will try bios 0017

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ezflash on bios setup.
really odd it was working fine last time.

think it was bios 0013.

will try bios 0017
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try USB Flashback if have any problem with EZ flash, rename BIOS filename to M6E.CAP
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try USB Flashback if have any problem with EZ flash, rename BIOS filename to M6E.CAP
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Ok. Same prob with ez flash. Reboot stuck at 62. Then on off stuck at 00 forever.
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try USB Flashback if have any problem with EZ flash, rename BIOS filename to M6E.CAP
0017 just released last night smile.gif
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Oh bios hmm before i had a way of reducing vccin for 2133 c7 to default 1.75v.
New bios back at the old vccin.

Hence my vote it sux for now

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You have new 0017 BIOS out.  smile.gif
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Another one......+Hero.

Btw,

Intel Removes ‘Overclocking’ From Non-K Series Haswell Parts.....

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Another one......+Hero.

Btw,

Intel Removes ‘Overclocking’ From Non-K Series Haswell Parts.....

http://wccftech.com/intel-removes-overcloc...-haswell-parts/
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Bios 0017 awesome.
Mobo dead n stuck n code 78.
Was just priming 2250c7.
Before that already noticed my g19 was behaving oddly during bootup.
Second bios also cannot boot.

Clear cmos now with no power n waiting 20mins
Shld be ok after this. Odd same timings were ok on 0503.

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Still dead. Proceeding with removing cpu.

Update still dead. Was told that my cpu might be dead.

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QUOTE(cstkl1 @ Jun 15 2013, 02:28 AM)
Still dead. Proceeding with removing cpu.

Update still dead. Was told that my cpu might be dead.
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Holy cow, so fast! sweat.gif
So it is the 0017 causing the death or something?
Get another CPU or mobo to test?
The debug code could be "7B" also.
Swap the CMOS battery and see.

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QUOTE(cstkl1 @ Jun 15 2013, 01:32 AM)
Bios 0017 awesome.
Mobo dead n stuck n code 78.
Was just priming 2250c7.
Before that already noticed my g19 was behaving oddly during bootup.
Second bios also cannot boot.

Clear cmos now with no power n waiting 20mins
Shld be ok after this. Odd same timings were ok on 0503.
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I think you have your CPU killed by excessive VCCIN bro.
I heard loud_silence and Dumo killed their good chips with 2.0v+ under LN2 and regular air/water.
But your situation is worse, cause you are running it on air and torture it with stress tool.

If you want to refer to Intel Datasheet for Haswell, the VCCIN is 1.7v default without limit. But i will play anything higher than 1.8v afaik the highest VCCIN I put was 1.75v then slowly playing with auto as recommended by ASUS.

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MSI Z87 Platform OC Setting Reference Table

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Gigabyte Z87 OC Guide coming soon......

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QUOTE(stasio @ Jun 15 2013, 01:40 PM)
MSI Z87 Platform OC Setting Reference Table

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Gigabyte Z87 OC Guide coming soon......
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Vccin missing but i still think it was the bios. But hmm owikh taught me something about the recommended loadline, gonna try it

Praying to gods of oc for my new proc not to sux

Took a leap of faith n got a gaygay z87 oc
Praying to gods of oc for gaygay to finally be good.

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Don't worry, GB OC doing well,as already prooved on a few presentations and owners posts.

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http://valid.canardpc.com/show_oc.php?id=2830882
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QUOTE(stasio @ Jun 15 2013, 02:28 PM)
Don't worry, GB OC doing well,as already prooved on a few presentations and owners posts.

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http://valid.canardpc.com/show_oc.php?id=2830882
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Nice. 2nd proc after one dead is better than previous on vcore on intial test.

Btw i meant as the board ok as pls dont burn my one of a kind psc dom gt.

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Where you will RMA CPU?.........in the case I need,huh....... sweat.gif
What is the batch of second one?

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Where you will RMA CPU?.........in the case I need,huh....... sweat.gif
What is the batch of second one?
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Same batch. Just playing with serial.

So far can tell u its all random. Batches dont bother
Just boot n c ure vid. If 1.05v. Not so good
Best are all 0.9xx.

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OK,let me know if you need different BIOS for GB OC.
Your came with F3 (read that is god for PSC)?

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OK,let me know if you need different BIOS for GB OC.
Your came with F3 (read that is god for PSC)?
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Today I start overclocking! Have to read up on how to overclock first sweat.gif

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Today I start overclocking! Have to read up on how to overclock first sweat.gif

Not aiming for extreme OC. 4.2 - 4.4 Ghz at around 1.15 - 1.20v possible? biggrin.gif
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Will post up some pics when I get back from overseas, but now I have tested 4 retail CPU's under cold (1 on Asus M6E and the others on MSI MPower)

Have to say the results are really disappointing so far - Haswell will be an okay upgrade from older platforms, but I think I would stick to Ivybridge for now.

Moderate overclocks on air / water should be okay, and the ram clocking definitely much more fun - just a shame about the top speeds.....

1 CPU max 5500 4c/8t, 2 max 5700, best one 5800

Top speed for quick 2d benching only 6g so far - 2 cores at -110 temps

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Anybody using non K series Haswell?
Reading arround that Intel limit memory to 2133,no gear ratio,etc....
BCLK ratios, mem dividers, are all cut, DISABLED even if they are naturaly supported.
Only advantage is VT-d, Intel® TSX-NI,compared with K series.
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QUOTE(kmarc @ Jun 17 2013, 09:26 AM)
Today I start overclocking! Have to read up on how to overclock first sweat.gif

Not aiming for extreme OC. 4.2 - 4.4 Ghz at around 1.15 - 1.20v possible? biggrin.gif
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not sure ure board can do this but set cpu voltage and cpu cache ring voltage manual.
the rest leave it at offset mode.

this way u get the full c-states.
its pretty awesome watching ure proc at idle at 0.00v. lol

QUOTE(bob(nz) @ Jun 17 2013, 09:30 AM)
Will post up some pics when I get back from overseas, but now I have tested 4 retail CPU's under cold (1 on Asus M6E and the others on MSI MPower)

Have to say the results are really disappointing so far - Haswell will be an okay upgrade from older platforms, but I think I would stick to Ivybridge for now.

Moderate overclocks on air / water should be okay, and the ram clocking definitely much more fun - just a shame about the top speeds.....

1 CPU max 5500 4c/8t, 2 max 5700, best one 5800

Top speed for quick 2d benching only 6g so far - 2 cores at -110 temps
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killed any??

QUOTE(stasio @ Jun 17 2013, 09:51 AM)
Anybody using non K series Haswell?
Reading arround that Intel limit memory to 2133,no gear ratio,etc....
BCLK ratios, mem dividers, are all cut, DISABLED even if they are naturaly supported.
Only advantage is VT-d, Intel® TSX-NI,compared with K series.
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no chance to test the gaygay yesterday as the proc i put it kindda sux on voltage/imc everything imaginable. vcore at 1.2v 4.2ghz barely passed.

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not sure ure board can do this but set cpu voltage and cpu cache ring voltage manual.
the rest leave it at offset mode.

this way u get the full c-states.
its pretty awesome watching ure proc at idle at 0.00v. lol
killed any??
no chance to test the gaygay yesterday as the proc i put it kindda sux on voltage/imc everything imaginable. vcore at 1.2v 4.2ghz barely passed.
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I set to 1.200v and 44 CPU ratio. Able to boot but BSOD on prime95 (code 124)

Now set to 1.200v at 43 CPU ratio and stressing. Vcore on CPU-z 1.198v
Temp 70-75'c with open side casing sweat.gif
CPU voltage to Adaptive (Read on the internet that adaptive voltage is the best as it will idle at stock speed and voltage)

The funny thing is, on boot up, it runs at 3.4Ghz. On stress, goes up to 4.3Ghz. After stopping stress testing, only then will the CPU drop to 800mhz at 0.703v rclxub.gif

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So far so good. Temp at 76'c max sweat.gif

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1) Set CPU ratio - All cores
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4) DRAM voltage to manual - 1.6v stock for my rams
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Ok, didn't test so much at 1.2v.

4.2Ghz @ 1.15v, prime95 stable for 10 minutes.

Now reduce to 4.2Ghz @ 1.100v. Going to settle for 4.2Ghz and see how low I can set the voltage.

Not too sure why Vcore on CPUz is higher at 1.129v. When I set to 1.200v in bios, it will quite accurately show 1.198v in CPUZ. When I set to 1.150v, it showed 1.153v

Temp : 72'c with closed side casing.

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Good thing is that your 4670K, have quite same temperature per core, in idle and load.
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From what I noticed, can vary up to 5'c. That's normal? hmm.gif

Right, reduced the voltage to 1.050v in bios but vcore still showing 1.129v rclxub.gif. Exactly the same as when I set at 1.100v
- don't know whether the motherboard is automatically feeding more voltage or not.....

Whooaaaa...... I didn't notice the CPU cache voltage was default at "override" setting. Was running at 1.200v sweat.gif Set it to adaptive at 1.05v like the cpu setting.

Update : BSOD error 124. Increasing CPU vcore back to 1.100v. Dunno whether any difference as CPUz still show 1.129v rclxub.gif

Update 2 : 30 mins stable at 1.100v..... 2 1/2 more hours to go..... sad.gif

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From what I noticed, can vary up to 5'c. That's normal?  hmm.gif
Better then normal.......mostly one (or 2) core are offset 10+... C.

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Better then normal.......mostly one (or 2) core are offset 10+... C.
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I see.....

Prime at 1 hour still ok. No BSOD. I just can't understand why cpuz vcore is the same whether I set 1.05v or 1.10v in bios.... rclxub.gif

Update : Almost 2 hours. So far so good. Gonna have to stop soon. Quite happy with this OC.

Temps are with closed side casing in aircon room.

Gonna try with gaming later. If stable, this will be my OC NEXT TIME! Going to run at stock for now as CPU powahhh is more than adequate.... biggrin.gif

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Your A-Tuning report CPU Voltage 1.726V ? hmm.gif

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Some noob question. I oc-ed my i5 to 4.5ghz at 1.2v. When I stress test using msi's tool its stable but prime95 not stable. Is my voltage not enough?
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Some noob question. I oc-ed my i5 to 4.5ghz at 1.2v. When I stress test using msi's tool its stable but prime95 not stable. Is my voltage not enough?
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Currently there is only one reliable stability app for Haswell which is prime95 27.9. Custom blend.

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I set to 1.200v and 44 CPU ratio. Able to boot but BSOD on prime95 (code 124)

Now set to 1.200v at 43 CPU ratio and stressing. Vcore on CPU-z 1.198v
Temp 70-75'c with open side casing  sweat.gif
CPU voltage to Adaptive (Read on the internet that adaptive voltage is the best as it will idle at stock speed and voltage)

The funny thing is, on boot up, it runs at 3.4Ghz. On stress, goes up to 4.3Ghz. After stopping stress testing, only then will the CPU drop to 800mhz at 0.703v  rclxub.gif
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Theres 4 ways to clock
Fully manual
Adaptive
Offset
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adaptive issue is the vcore can be more than what u set.
So far seems manual on vcore n ring bus with offset on vcssa/cpu io d/a is the best. Fully c-state.
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Currently there is only one reliable stability app for Haswell which is prime95 27.9. Custom blend.
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I used custom blend with the settings you recommended on first page. It'll be fine for 15mins but longer than that crashes.
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I used custom blend with the settings you recommended on first page. It'll be fine for 15mins but longer than that crashes.
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Type RAM use?

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I used custom blend with the settings you recommended on first page. It'll be fine for 15mins but longer than that crashes.
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It could be CPU or RAM setting issues.
Try not to touch the memory settings but let it auto then focus on CPU clocking first.
Increase your vCore necessarily.
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Type RAM use?
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It could be CPU or RAM setting issues.
Try not to touch the memory settings but let it auto then focus on CPU clocking first.
Increase your vCore necessarily.
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I set the ram to xmp.
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I tried again with the same settings for prime95. If more than 15min bsod appears. Ram settings at auto.
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Up ure vcore.
Its something to do with the ivr. But overall u can leave ure vcore at that. Ure good to go. Just recheck with aida from total stress test n games like bf3 n metro last light.
Ppl like owikh , stasio n even me. We need more stability cause of mem clocking. Most of the mem clocking we do are all custom etc n to check those timings right we run stress test. We need to take out vcore as a issue from any instability we face.
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QUOTE(Naraw @ Jun 17 2013, 07:54 PM)
I tried again with the same settings for prime95. If more than 15min bsod appears. Ram settings at auto.
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QUOTE(stasio @ Jun 17 2013, 04:56 PM)
Your A-Tuning report CPU Voltage 1.726V ?  hmm.gif
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I was told that was Vccin. smile.gif

QUOTE(Naraw @ Jun 17 2013, 05:00 PM)
Some noob question. I oc-ed my i5 to 4.5ghz at 1.2v. When I stress test using msi's tool its stable but prime95 not stable. Is my voltage not enough?
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Too high OC? My 4670k BSOD after stressing at 4.4Ghz @ 1.2v. Had to reduce to 4.3Ghz @ 1.2v then more stable.

QUOTE(cstkl1 @ Jun 17 2013, 05:34 PM)
Theres 4 ways to clock
Fully manual
Adaptive
Offset
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adaptive issue is the vcore can be more than what u set.
So far seems manual on vcore n ring bus with offset on vcssa/cpu io d/a is the best. Fully c-state.
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I see. So it is the adaptive setting.... hmm.gif

Hmmm.... I might just settle for adaptive setting.... see see how.....

QUOTE(Naraw @ Jun 17 2013, 07:54 PM)
I tried again with the same settings for prime95. If more than 15min bsod appears. Ram settings at auto.
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Try reducing to 4.4Ghz or 4.3Ghz or increase your CPU voltage. What's your temperature on stress test?
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Samsung kit did 3000C10 @ 1.86v on air

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Thats amazing

Btw those 3k kits... What are the chipset.

Cause hmm corsair qualify them as vengence pro so guessing its not a binning issue. So cant be that rare.
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QUOTE(cstkl1 @ Jun 17 2013, 09:19 PM)
Thats amazing

Btw those 3k kits... What are the chipset.

Cause hmm corsair qualify them as vengence pro so guessing its not a binning issue.  So cant be that rare.
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I think they are binned.
3000C12 kits are Hynix, same as my 2800 11-13-13. But they can't do C10 @ 2800+ which Samsung did.
I have a Corsair Dom Platinum 2800 11-14-14 but they can't stable @ 3000.

C-N uses Samsung kit of 2666C10. I also have 2666C10 but G.Skill TridentX.
A good Samsung should be able to clock 2800C9, but of course at high vdimm.

QUOTE(cstkl1 @ Jun 17 2013, 09:20 PM)
Btw have u thought of doing like the gamer profile.
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Just stressed the cpu only using msi's extreme tuning utility and it managed to go pass 30mins at 4.5ghz-1.2v. But when I stressed the cpu only using prime95 it crashes after exactly 15min. I used the max fft setting for prime95. Both stress test ram are default.
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Arrrgghhh!!! All my OC for nothing!

Booted up my normal windows at 4.2Ghz @ 1.1v. Run prime95 (27.9) and noted vcore jumped to 1.198v and temperature jumped to 81-82'c!!!!

Compared to my previous OC (in a fresh windows 7), the weird thing was that the same prime95 ran small FFTs with type-0 FFT. Now in my main windows 7, it is using AVX FFT!!! rclxub.gif

Summary
Prime95 (27.9) in fresh win 7 (type-0 FFT) - OC 4.2Ghz @ 1.1v, vcore 1.129v in CPUz, realtemp 72'c max (2 hours stable)
Prime95 (27.9) in main win 7 (AVX FFT shocking.gif ) - OC 4.2Ghz @ 1.1v, vcore 1.198v in CPUz, realtemp 81-82'c (in a few seconds)!!!! sweat.gif

Wasted my whole day..... vmad.gif

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Just stressed the cpu only using msi's extreme tuning utility and it managed to go pass 30mins at 4.5ghz-1.2v. But when I stressed the cpu only using prime95 it crashes after exactly 15min. I used the max fft setting for prime95. Both stress test ram are default.
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that means MSI Extreme Tuning Utility is not as stressful as Prime95. So, better don't use it for stability test.
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QUOTE(kmarc @ Jun 17 2013, 09:45 PM)
Arrrgghhh!!! All my OC for nothing!

Booted up my normal windows at 4.2Ghz @ 1.1v. Run prime95 (27.9) and noted vcore jumped to 1.198v and temperature jumped to 81-82'c!!!!

Compared to my previous OC (in a fresh windows 7), the weird thing was that the same prime95 ran small FFTs with type-0 FFT. Now in my main windows 7, it is using AVX FFT!!!  rclxub.gif

Summary
Prime95 (27.9) in fresh win 7 (type-0 FFT) - OC 4.2Ghz @ 1.1v, vcore 1.129v in CPUz, realtemp 72'c max (2 hours stable)
Prime95 (27.9) in main win 7 (AVX FFT  shocking.gif ) - OC 4.2Ghz @ 1.1v, vcore 1.198v in CPUz, realtemp 81-82'c (in a few seconds)!!!!  sweat.gif

Wasted my whole day.....  vmad.gif
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Let me guess.

Your main win7 is Service Pack 1 (SP1)
fresh win7 is vanilla (none-SP1)

SP1 has AVX instruction which vanilla doesn't.
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QUOTE(owikh84 @ Jun 17 2013, 09:53 PM)
that means MSI Extreme Tuning Utility is not as stressful as Prime95. So, better don't use it for stability test.
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Really? I'll try to oc it 4.4 or lower and see whether is it stable. Could it be ram issue?
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Really? I'll try to oc it 4.4 or lower and see whether is it stable. Could it be ram issue?
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Just pump the vCore or downclock.
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Thanks Sifu. Btw.. What's gt voltage and ring voltage?
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Let me guess.

Your main win7 is Service Pack 1 (SP1)
fresh win7 is vanilla (none-SP1)

SP1 has AVX instruction which vanilla doesn't.
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notworthy.gif

cry.gif Didn't know that cry.gif

However, I guess all is not lost. Played some games e.g. BF3, bioshock infinite and my OC is stable and vcore is at the usual 1.129v and not 1.2v.

Read about adaptive voltage from the 1st page link (the 3 step guide to overclocking i7/i5). I guess that's the reason why my proc shot up to 1.2v but more or less safe as most CPU-intensive process don't jack up the vcore more than what is set in bios.

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Caveat – big, massive, honking, pay attention to this – caveat! When using adaptive voltage, the top of the curve isn’t necessarily the whole story. ASUS drove this point home when we met and I’m doing so now; we all need to do this as a public service to our users and readers. Even though you set 1.25 V as your maximum voltage, under certain very heavy loading conditions (i.e. stress testing), the voltage can and will exceed the maximum you have set. Let me say that again – if you stress test using adaptive voltage, even with the maximum set to 1.25 V, the CPU will – guaranteed – request and receive more voltage than you have told the motherboard to deliver it. It’s just the way this works.

In the ASUS demonstrations, setting a maximum 1.25 V in this scenario and then running something like AIDA64, Prime95, etc – any stress testing application designed to stress more than normal loads – the CPU requests and gets ~1.36 V. There is nothing you can do about this and it will happen whether you want it to or not. The only way to prevent stress testing programs from pulling extra voltage is to use a manually set voltage, which takes away your CPU’s ability to reduce voltage when idle.

All is not lost though! You probably noticed every time I told you what would happen it went hand in hand with stress testing. That’s because those are the only scenarios that will lead to this behavior. In all other circumstances so far as ASUS can tell, the CPU will cap at the set 1.25 V and never exceed it. Even if you’re Folding@Home it should maintain the 1.25 V cap (though those folding at home are under 100% load all the time and I’d suggest using a manual voltage for those machines just in case). Likewise, video encoding, audio encoding, compression, rendering – any CPU-intensive process, your CPU will maintain the 1.25 V cap.

So, now that you know the very important caveat, set 1.25 V as your maximum voltage with adaptive voltage, enable C1E and EIST (which throttle your multiplier and voltage when not under load) and go on with your merry life knowing your CPU is as relaxed as it can get when idle.



QUOTE(cstkl1 @ Jun 17 2013, 05:34 PM)
Theres 4 ways to clock
Fully manual
Adaptive
Offset
SVID

adaptive issue is the vcore can be more than what u set.
So far seems manual on vcore n ring bus with offset on vcssa/cpu io d/a is the best. Fully c-state.
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One day when I have time to OC again, I will ask you how to set the "offset on vcssa/cpu io digital/analogue"....... notworthy.gif

For now, back to stock clock! biggrin.gif

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C-N sold all his Samsung kit 2666C10,now is using Platinum 2666C10 (with Samsung IC).
This his kit is also running 2800 @ 10-12-12 @ 1.65V.

Edit:
Btw,spoted that L312Bxxx batch doing well.

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QUOTE(bob(nz) @ Jun 17 2013, 09:30 AM)
Will post up some pics when I get back from overseas, but now I have tested 4 retail CPU's under cold (1 on Asus M6E and the others on MSI MPower)

Have to say the results are really disappointing so far - Haswell will be an okay upgrade from older platforms, but I think I would stick to Ivybridge for now.

Moderate overclocks on air / water should be okay, and the ram clocking definitely much more fun - just a shame about the top speeds.....

1 CPU max 5500 4c/8t, 2 max 5700, best one 5800

Top speed for quick 2d benching only 6g so far - 2 cores at -110 temps
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Sound disappointing when Ivy can go much more further
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Managed to lower down the vCore from 1.44v to 1.4v without any magic biggrin.gif

4.6GHz @ 1.4v
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3000MHz 12-14-14-25-2T @ 1.65v passed HyperPi
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I lowered my clock to 4.4ghz at 1.17v. Ram at xmp. Ran prime95 for 45mins without any crashes. Will tinker again tomorrow. Try to lower vcore and oc the ram.
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Nice Kevin..... rclxms.gif

Just your mem Read/Write/Copy is to low in Aida64.?.....I noted this from your fist post.
Should be arround 35-40K


Edit:
New Z87 BIOS on Gigabyte web page.
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AsRock new BIOS:
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QUOTE(kmarc @ Jun 17 2013, 10:27 PM)
notworthy.gif

cry.gif Didn't know that  cry.gif

However, I guess all is not lost. Played some games e.g. BF3, bioshock infinite and my OC is stable and vcore is at the usual 1.129v and not 1.2v.

Read about adaptive voltage from the 1st page link (the 3 step guide to overclocking i7/i5). I guess that's the reason why my proc shot up to 1.2v but more or less safe as most CPU-intensive process don't jack up the vcore more than what is set in bios.
One day when I have time to OC again, I will ask you how to set the "offset on vcssa/cpu io digital/analogue".......  notworthy.gif

For now, back to stock clock!  biggrin.gif
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Dont worry abt those voltages. Only above 2133 u need to set them and digital i/o is ram dimm population n chip dependent.

QUOTE(stasio @ Jun 17 2013, 11:59 PM)
Nice Kevin..... rclxms.gif

Just your mem Read/Write/Copy is to low in Aida64.?.....I noted this from your fist post.
Should be arround 35-40K
Edit:
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AsRock new BIOS:
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Trdrd n twrwr. If set at 4 ure rams will run at out of spec voltage.
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ok done priming for 7 hours.

3000MHz 12-14-14-25-1T @ 1.65v

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also stasio. Haswell a bit different from ivy/sandy. u dont gain much from cpu speed on bandwidth.

but when u tightened the bandwidth ure going to need more vcore.

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Yea,I know......i didn't mean speed.
Here is less speed and less frequency,but Read/Write /Copy is higher then Kevin....

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OK..this is with 4670K,will found with 4770K.
Btw,
Kevin posted some pic from XS and there can see also difference.


....you have super low Vcore...haha flex.gif

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with 4770K@ 4.3GHz HT.......Hynix CFR RAM 2666@11....@ 2800MHz 12-14-14-35-2T @ 1.65v

compare with Kevin in post #116

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QUOTE(stasio @ Jun 18 2013, 08:19 AM)
Yea,I know......i didn't mean speed.
Here is less speed and less frequency,but Read/Write /Copy is higher then Kevin....

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OK..this is with 4670K,will found with 4770K.
Btw,
Kevin posted some pic from XS and there can see also difference.
....you have super low Vcore...haha flex.gif
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Like cstkl1 said. The bandwidths can be improved by reducing the 3rd timings mainly the tRDRD and tWRWR, but the latency will be reduced as well.

The lowest tRDRD and tRWRW can boot at 3000 at 1.65v is 6, the bandwifths will shoot up to 30k. Will try to run it by tonight hopefully will yield the same performance without needing voltage increment.
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QUOTE(stasio @ Jun 18 2013, 08:19 AM)
Yea,I know......i didn't mean speed.
Here is less speed and less frequency,but Read/Write /Copy is higher then Kevin....

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OK..this is with 4670K,will found with 4770K.
Btw,
Kevin posted some pic from XS and there can see also difference.
....you have super low Vcore...haha flex.gif
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nah c-state C6,C7. Got it working. Its awesome haswell. The voltages on the cpu cores most of them drop like 0.000V on idle. Lowest i have seen 1.9watts.

stasio its the tRDRD and tRWRW. his rams are stable only this setting.

But normally if he ups it he has to up his vdimm. I suspect the 3k rams being sold will end up the same. Default for 2.4k ram and above all dont run tRDRD at 4.
hence y u see my 2133C7 all 33k. It comes at a cost of vdimm and vcore.

Ure asking whats the benefit. this settings shows difference on aida on multicore bandwidth mem cache test. but on single thread test the 3k still will beat the 2133C7 on bandwidth like maxmemm.

so its a matter of balance on ure voltages .. mem speed etc. So far i think personally a 2666 C10 is the fastest from what i have i seen.

So what i am trying to say his 4.6ghz 2.8k/3kmem prime .. Ure not going to see many ppl are able to do that.

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Btw,
memory timing locked ,by Intel (same like Asus Mem TweakIt 2.00.01)
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Just got my 4770k. will most likely start test on thursday.
owik, your 4.7ghz chip is msia or costa?
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Just got my 4770k. will most likely start test on thursday.
owik, your 4.7ghz chip is msia or costa?
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Glad that you have made a good choice.
My 4770K is Malaysian batch L312B460.
Let's torturing.

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Glad that you have made a good choice.
My 4770K is Malaysian batch L312B460.
Let's torturing.
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*Evil music coming* I have the same batch as you. good god.
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QUOTE(JakeGFX @ Jun 18 2013, 09:11 PM)
*Evil music coming* I have the same batch as you. good god.
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Different chip different VID and so for OCbility. It's all about draw of luck.

btw, compression performance on Haswell is awesome. Now you can cut the time of unrarring by half.

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alright looks like we have a version of LinX working for Haswell on win7 SP1 (not Win8)
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If anyone is looking for linx that will work with haswell in win7 use LinX 0.6.4 (10.3.7)
11.0.1 will work with haswell on win8 not win7.

Credit to acebmxer @ XS

OMG, bad news guys.
LinX 0.6.4 (10.3.7) is actually stressing more than I thought.
Now 4.6GHz @ 1.44v will hit TJmax of 100C instantly.
Now i have to reduce overclock to 4.4GHz @ 1.375v in order to avoid from overheating. sweat.gif
So, from now onwards I will not use Prime95 27.9 for stability check anymore because it is not ready for Haswell thus not as stressful as LinX.

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alright looks like we have a version of LinX working for Haswell on win7 SP1 (not Win8)

Credit to acebmxer @ XS
Yea,I working with him last 2-3 days......

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Thank you stasio.

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QUOTE(owikh84 @ Jun 18 2013, 11:44 PM)
alright looks like we have a version of LinX working for Haswell on win7 SP1 (not Win8)

Credit to acebmxer @ XS

OMG, bad news guys.
LinX 0.6.4 (10.3.7) is actually stressing more than I thought.
Now 4.6GHz @ 1.44v will hit TJmax of 100C instantly.
Now i have to reduce overclock to 4.4GHz @ 1.375v in order to avoid from overheating.  sweat.gif
So, from now onwards I will not use Prime95 27.9 for stability check anymore because it is not ready for Haswell thus not as stressful as LinX.
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That's on water? sweat.gif

As mentioned previous, on my air-cooled Venomous X, prime95 (non-AVX) @ 4.2Ghz @1.1v was already touching 70-75'c. On prime95 (AVX) was 80-82'c. I can't imagine if I start to use LinX! rclxub.gif

Now I'm beginning to think whether there is a stress program that can test for stability without the temperature going through the roof. Can I say that since prime95 (non-AVX) @ 4.2Ghz @ 1.1v was stable for 3 hours, my rig would be "relatively" stable 99.99% of the time? hmm.gif
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That's on water?  sweat.gif

As mentioned previous, on my air-cooled Venomous X, prime95 (non-AVX) @ 4.2Ghz @1.1v was already touching 70-75'c. On prime95 (AVX) was 80-82'c. I can't imagine if I start to use LinX!  rclxub.gif

Now I'm beginning to think whether there is a stress program that can test for stability without the temperature going through the roof. Can I say that since prime95 (non-AVX) @ 4.2Ghz @ 1.1v was stable for 3 hours, my rig would be "relatively" stable 99.99% of the time?  hmm.gif
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yupe thats under water.
Prime95 needs some updates for Haswell. Normally I would trust LinX or IBT only since it tell us the GFlops which shows the efficiency and accuracy of our overclocks. Eg.

4.5GHz @ 1.25v - 125 GFlops, 85C
4.5GHz @ 1.3v - 135 GFlops, 90C

The higher the GFlops, the more performance the overclock yield. So, 1.3v is picked as our preferred vCore.

That was on win7 SP1 with AVX instruction AND LinX with AVX libraries build 10.3.7.

On win7 non SP1 OR LinX non AVX, you would get:

4.5GHz @ 1.15v - 60 GFlops, 60C

lower GFlops and reduced performance of AVX supported apps and might sometimes get BSOD on routine works.

Thats why I said the hotter or the more vCore needed, the more stressful the app. Also, the more vdroop (lower load vCore) the more stressful.


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nah c-state C6,C7. Got it working. Its awesome haswell. The voltages on the cpu cores most of them drop like 0.000V on idle. Lowest i have seen 1.9watts.

stasio its the tRDRD and tRWRW. his rams are stable only this setting.

But normally if he ups it he has to up his vdimm. I suspect the 3k rams being sold will end up the same. Default for 2.4k ram and above all dont run tRDRD at 4.
hence y u see my 2133C7 all 33k. It comes at a cost of vdimm and vcore.

Ure asking whats the benefit. this settings shows difference on aida on multicore bandwidth mem cache test. but on single thread test the 3k still will beat the 2133C7 on bandwidth like maxmemm.

so its a matter of balance on ure voltages .. mem speed etc. So far i think personally a 2666 C10 is the fastest from what i have i seen.

So what i am trying to say his 4.6ghz 2.8k/3kmem  prime .. Ure not going to see many ppl are able to do that.
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One of the most important parameter that determine your bandwidth and voltages thumbup.gif
Test of ram chip/pcb quality too

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change Latest BIOS......to:
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Massman just update OP.
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QUOTE(owikh84 @ Jun 19 2013, 12:47 PM)
yupe thats under water.
Prime95 needs some updates for Haswell. Normally I would trust LinX or IBT only since it tell us the GFlops which shows the efficiency and accuracy of our overclocks. Eg.

4.5GHz @ 1.25v - 125 GFlops, 85C
4.5GHz @ 1.3v - 135 GFlops, 90C

The higher the  GFlops, the more performance the overclock yield. So, 1.3v is picked as our preferred vCore.

That was on win7 SP1 with AVX instruction AND LinX with AVX libraries build 10.3.7.

On win7 non SP1 OR LinX non AVX, you would get:

4.5GHz @ 1.15v - 60 GFlops, 60C

lower GFlops and reduced performance of AVX supported apps and might sometimes get BSOD on routine works.

Thats why I said the hotter or the more vCore needed, the more stressful the app. Also, the more vdroop (lower load vCore) the more stressful.
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Wow! 85'c on water for 4.5Ghz @ 1.25v sweat.gif

Ok, I will try Linx this Friday when I'm on leave ( rclxm9.gif ). Thx for the clear explanation.

Trying to get some info on AVX and gaming but looks like not much info at the moment. Aikes, there's even AVX2 probably to make my proc roast more!!! biggrin.gif
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I think that LinX 10.3.7 is kinda old as far as I could recall on 3770K + Z77 it needed less vCore than 11.0.1.005 but yield the same Gflops.

Hint is on the top pane of LinX.

AVX edition: less vCore needed
Simply linpack: more vCore

but generates the same GFlops.

so there is no perfect app to stress Haswell yet atm
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Anyway, to choose whatever stress app is really up to you.

I even saw an OCN forummer advised fellows not to use AVX based stability tool because it doesnt represent daily routine work lol.

Another forumer from XS told me that if you could finish the Fritz Chess benchmark then your overclock should run fine on any game without stability issue.

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QUOTE(owikh84 @ Jun 19 2013, 04:00 PM)
Anyway, to choose whatever stress app is really up to you.

I even saw an OCN forummer advised fellows not to use AVX based stability tool because it doesnt represent daily routine work lol.

Another forumer from XS told me that if you could finish the Fritz Chess benchmark then your overclock should run fine on any game without stability issue.
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Yeah, that's why I was asking whether I should just stress test using non-AVX prime95.....

Oh well, will test test LinX this friday but I think I won't use AVX-stress apps to test for stability. Not comfortable with high temperatures....
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Run some LinX w/ AVX (10.3.7) this early morning...

4770K @ 4.6GHz 1.344v | RAM: 3000MHz 12-14-14-25-2T @ 1.65v

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* note that the GFlops is going down slightly as I've opened some background apps ie. CPU-Z etc.

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QUOTE(OC4/3 @ Jun 19 2013, 12:49 PM)
Remind me of tRD aka performance level on lga775
One of the most important parameter that determine your bandwidth and voltages thumbup.gif
Test of ram chip/pcb quality too
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No this is different trd on 775 is more akin to rtl. Trd is a nb issue.

QUOTE(stasio @ Jun 19 2013, 01:41 PM)
Owi,
change Latest BIOS......to:
http://forum.hwbot.org/showthread.php?t=75024

Massman just update OP.
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Its been out for a week. Just more bclk presets.

QUOTE(kmarc @ Jun 19 2013, 08:18 PM)
Yeah, that's why I was asking whether I should just stress test using non-AVX prime95.....

Oh well, will test test LinX this friday but I think I won't use AVX-stress apps to test for stability. Not comfortable with high temperatures....
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Read one of my reply y owikh does the stress test. He needs a confirm vcore for that 4.6ghz because of all the custom mem clocking.
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Ran Linx last night for 30mins. i5 at 4.4ghz, 1.15v. Gflops was at 119 and max temp was 92C. At 1.17v, Gflops was at 121 and temp at 95C.
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Why asus rog z87 kindda awesome is because of this.

My setting for 4.5ghz 2133 C7
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Later will trying to get the uncore to 1:1 although the recommended is 100-300mhz less than ure cpu speed.

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Its been out for a week. Just more bclk presets.
It's new link for all Z87 boards BIOS's, not only asus.......
Link has been changed yesterday and Owi still keep not connectable link under "Latest BIOS: LINK"
on post #1.

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It's new link for all Z87 boards BIOS's, not only asus.......
Link has been changed yesterday and Owi still keep not connectable link under "Latest BIOS: LINK"
on post #1.
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Why asus rog z87 kindda awesome is because of this.

My setting for 4.5ghz 2133 C7


Later will trying to get the uncore to 1:1 although the recommended is 100-300mhz less than ure cpu speed.
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QUOTE(stasio @ Jun 20 2013, 10:15 AM)
Must be magic......4.5ghz...Vcore 0.000V
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so when ure haswell comin??
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OMG! Tested linX 10.3.7 at 4.2Ghz @ 1.1v (Bios) and hanged after 10 seconds!

4.1Ghz @ 1.1V (Bios), 1.193v (CpuZ), temps at 81-87'c sweat.gif

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QUOTE(cstkl1 @ Jun 20 2013, 09:12 AM)
Read one of my reply y owikh does the stress test. He needs a confirm vcore for that 4.6ghz because of all the custom mem clocking.
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Now I'm a bit irritated by "adaptive" mode. Mind telling me the minimum setting for manual mode (it is override mode right?) if I want max CPU voltage to be 1.15v?

Should CPU voltage be override to 0.700v and CPU voltage offset +0.35v?

Damn... have to do more research.... sweat.gif

QUOTE(Naraw @ Jun 20 2013, 09:49 AM)
Ran Linx last night for 30mins. i5 at 4.4ghz, 1.15v. Gflops was at 119 and max temp was 92C. At 1.17v, Gflops was at 121 and temp at 95C.
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1.15v in BIOS or CPUz?

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OMG! Tested linX 10.3.7 at 4.2Ghz @ 1.1v (Bios) and hanged after 10 seconds!

4.1Ghz @ 1.1V (Bios), 1.193v (CpuZ), temps at 81-87'c  sweat.gif

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Now I'm a bit irritated by "adaptive" mode. Mind telling me the minimum setting for manual mode (it is override mode right?) if I want max CPU voltage to be 1.15v?

Should CPU voltage be override to 0.700v and CPU voltage offset +0.35v?

Damn... have to do more research....  sweat.gif
1.15v in BIOS or CPUz?
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Really not sure about asrock. But u can see on my screen shot.
My CPU is on Manual ( not sure why it says ring bus is manual but its actually on auto)
The rest VCSSA/CPU Digital/Analogue i/o is offset.

this is the best.
adaptive is totally not recommended for haswell because of the heat

adaptive is like setting a offset based on ure vid for the multiplier and then giving more for turbo. something like that.

checking for ure mobo bios screenshot.

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QUOTE(cstkl1 @ Jun 20 2013, 11:19 AM)
Really not sure about asrock. But u can see on my screen shot.
My CPU is on Manual ( not sure why it says ring bus is manual but its actually on auto)
The rest VCSSA/CPU Digital/Analogue i/o is offset.

this is the best.
adaptive is totally not recommended for haswell because of the heat

adaptive is like setting a offset based on ure vid for the multiplier and then giving more for turbo. something like that.

checking for ure mobo bios screenshot.
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Right, so if I want CPU voltage @ 1.15v max, I should set something like this?:

CPU voltage 1.05v
Digital I/O offset 0.1v

Will try out and see.....
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Right, so if I want CPU voltage @ 1.15v max, I should set something like this?:

CPU voltage 1.05v
Digital I/O offset 0.1v

Will try out and see.....
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no leave digital/analogue i/o on auto but in offset mode. it will change by itself when u clock and its more on dram actually.
VCSSA offset but for me so far only 2133 and above u need to change if not auto.

U can leave Cache ring bus in manual mode but set in auto ( if ure not planning to up the uncore but normally for max uncore clocking set it = vcore and set it 100-300mhz less than ure cpu speed)
CPU set at manual a fix voltage.

Show me ure asrock software screenshot.


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QUOTE(cstkl1 @ Jun 20 2013, 11:33 AM)
no leave digital/analogue i/o on auto but in offset mode. it will change by itself when u clock and its more on dram actually.
VCSSA offset but for me so far only 2133 and above u need to change if not auto.

U can leave Cache ring bus in manual mode but set in auto ( if ure not planning to up the uncore but normally for max uncore clocking set it = vcore and set it 100-300mhz less than ure cpu speed)
CPU set at manual a fix voltage.

Show me ure asrock software screenshot.
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Confused. biggrin.gif

Basically, I don't want to do any ram overclocking or uncore. Just want to OC the proc to maximum voltage of 1.15v but keep c-state active.

Here's my bios:

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eh asrock has no bios screenshot meh.. that saves into a usb.

btw its wrong theres no such thing as cpu load-line calibration for haswell
its actually a load-line for the ivr.

change cpu and cache voltage to fully manual.
leave cache on auto for now.
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QUOTE(cstkl1 @ Jun 20 2013, 11:59 AM)
eh asrock has no bios screenshot meh.. that saves into a usb.

btw its wrong theres no such thing as cpu load-line calibration for haswell
its actually a load-line for the ivr.

change cpu and cache voltage to fully manual.
leave cache on auto for now.
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Errmm.. BIOS screenshot? Dunno! biggrin.gif

Right, will try.

CPU and cache voltage to full manual at 1.15v right?

Errmm... vcore maintained at 1.100v leh... didn't throttle down eventhough speed went down to 800mhz....

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QUOTE(kmarc @ Jun 20 2013, 12:07 PM)
Errmm.. BIOS screenshot? Dunno!  biggrin.gif

Right, will try.

CPU and cache voltage to full manual at 1.15v right?

Errmm... vcore maintained at 1.100v leh... didn't throttle down eventhough speed went down to 800mhz....
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thats a big droop on set vs read.

try higher loadline on the vrm.

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thats a big droop on set vs read.

try higher loadline on the vrm.
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Sorry sorry... I set 1.100v in BIOS. CPUz showed 1.099v.

However, CPU voltage didn't throttle down to 0.700v although speed went down to 800mhz....
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Sorry sorry... I set 1.100v in BIOS. CPUz showed 1.099v.

However, CPU voltage didn't throttle down to 0.700v although speed went down to 800mhz....
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that c-state with eist.

if u dont want that just disable it in bios .
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that c-state with eist.

if u dont want that just disable it in bios .
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What I wanted was the vcore to throttle down too. Like your example where your proc was running at 0.00v or 0.15v! drool.gif

However, I would be happy if I can get it to go down to 0.700v @ 800mhz. nod.gif
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What I wanted was the vcore to throttle down too. Like your example where your proc was running at 0.00v or 0.15v!  drool.gif

However, I would be happy if I can get it to go down to 0.700v @ 800mhz.  nod.gif
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eist and c-state enable it.
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QUOTE(cstkl1 @ Jun 20 2013, 12:41 PM)
eist and c-state enable it.
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Is it enabled! Will check my bios to see whether any other settings.... rclxub.gif

After more searching, it seems that I can't have the best of both worlds?

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From the graph, it looks like override mode can't adjust voltages......

Source : http://www.overclockers.com/3step-guide-to...k-intel-haswell

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Dude on asus m6e vcore can be set at manual n the rest not.
Gaugay oc also no issue.

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I just tried 4770k with 4.5ghz with maximus vi gene and unstable.
I know I had a bad chip. Intel can't apply their thermal paste properly.

1st core is ~90 degrees
4rd core is ~79 degrees

Orhh and I'm cooling with silver arrow (non extreme)
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Dude on asus m6e vcore can be set at manual n the rest not.
Gaugay oc also no issue.
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Tested this already for few hours.

This is the setting for PSC kit for 2133C7. The bandwidths are high. Arnd 33k on read/write copy

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QUOTE(stasio @ Jun 20 2013, 05:56 PM)
If you testing GB OC,use BIOS B10.........(good for PSC)
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Noted. Think will be doing PSC only. So far all the samsung and hynix seems to be taking a hit with the lower trdrd and twrwr
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Tested this already for few hours.

This is the setting for PSC kit for 2133C7. The bandwidths are high. Arnd 33k on read/write copy


Noted. Think will be doing PSC only. So far all the samsung and hynix seems to be taking a hit with the lower trdrd and twrwr
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Nice...... nod.gif
Yes,GB has high bandwith and lower trdrd...twrwr....comparing to asus.

I don't have any PSC kit,only BBSE and Samsung IC.

Here, Dino using F5m BIOS with PSC (with some BIOS setting and results).

Edit:
Next month will order some Hynix MFR kit. biggrin.gif

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QUOTE(kmarc @ Jun 20 2013, 11:11 AM)
OMG! Tested linX 10.3.7 at 4.2Ghz @ 1.1v (Bios) and hanged after 10 seconds!

4.1Ghz @ 1.1V (Bios), 1.193v (CpuZ), temps at 81-87'c  sweat.gif

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Now I'm a bit irritated by "adaptive" mode. Mind telling me the minimum setting for manual mode (it is override mode right?) if I want max CPU voltage to be 1.15v?

Should CPU voltage be override to 0.700v and CPU voltage offset +0.35v?

Damn... have to do more research....  sweat.gif
1.15v in BIOS or CPUz?
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Bios and cpu-z.
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QUOTE(cstkl1 @ Jun 20 2013, 03:32 PM)
Dude on asus m6e vcore can be set at manual n the rest not.
Gaugay oc also no issue.
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Weird, not too sure why but my Asrock can't! vmad.gif

QUOTE(Naraw @ Jun 20 2013, 07:50 PM)
Bios and cpu-z.
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That's nice. Mine is not even stable at 4.2Ghz 1.1v..... cry.gif
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Manage to get a stable 4.4ghz with silver arrow (non extreme) but a very high temperature of 100 degree max. I think I should went with the line method with the thermal paste. Here's the result. I put it in spoiler because I don't want to flood the page.

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QUOTE(JakeGFX @ Jun 21 2013, 01:09 AM)
Manage to get a stable 4.4ghz with silver arrow (non extreme) but a very high temperature of 100 degree max. I think I should went with the line method with the thermal paste. Here's the result. I put it in spoiler because I don't want to flood the page.

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Throttling spotted. Unstable. U really need to take a step back n learn how to clock on ure board.

Use the gamer preset as a start

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QUOTE(JakeGFX @ Jun 21 2013, 01:09 AM)
Manage to get a stable 4.4ghz with silver arrow (non extreme) but a very high temperature of 100 degree max. I think I should went with the line method with the thermal paste. Here's the result. I put it in spoiler because I don't want to flood the page.

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Wow! Straight to extreme tweaker LN2 mode? Isn't vcore of 1.352v a bit too high? sweat.gif
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Wow! Straight to extreme tweaker LN2 mode? Isn't vcore of 1.352v a bit too high?  sweat.gif
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After many "new records" or "Total Domination!" and OC Guide for ES chips, from
various companies (persons), done all with Engineering Sample (ES) or Qualification Sample
(QS).............QE6S - Asus (need FIVR baypass) / QEH6 - Gigabyte (became QS Prime for Retail).

Is nice to see what ES version can do but........it's time for them to turn the page and start to look in RETAIL version
as we all buying Retail version which didn't perform as ES.

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QUOTE(stasio @ Jun 21 2013, 04:42 PM)
Just went thru all various Z87 OC Guide (Asus & Gigabyte atm).

After many "new records" or "Total Domination!" and OC Guide for ES chips, from
various companies (persons), done all with Engineering Sample (ES) or Qualification Sample
(QS).............QE6S - Asus (need FIVR baypass) / QEH6 - Gigabyte (became QS Prime for Retail).

Is nice to see what ES version can do but........it's time for them to turn the page and start to look in RETAIL version
as we all buying Retail version which didn't perform as ES.
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while raja is seriously good for reading and knowledge but no starting point at all

the rest out there. garbage.
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Yea, Sin (Steven) start to change OC Guide slowly with Retail version,but this will take some time.

Edit:
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Dinos22 explains GIGABYTE’s OC Touch features on new Z87X-OC board...



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QUOTE(stasio @ Jun 21 2013, 04:42 PM)
Just went thru all various Z87 OC Guide (Asus & Gigabyte atm).

After many "new records" or "Total Domination!" and OC Guide for ES chips, from
various companies (persons), done all with Engineering Sample (ES) or Qualification Sample
(QS).............QE6S - Asus (need FIVR baypass) / QEH6 - Gigabyte (became QS Prime for Retail).

Is nice to see what ES version can do but........it's time for them to turn the page and start to look in RETAIL version
as we all buying Retail version which didn't perform as ES.
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don quite get wat you meant here but during intel corsair event, for Top speed section, all are restricted to use provided QEH6 CPU only

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don quite get wat you meant here but during intel corsair event, for Top speed section, all are restricted to use provided QEH6 CPU only
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Hi coolice,
hope you doing well.

For intel corsair event ,I don't know which ES has been used (but I know,you has been there biggrin.gif ).

So,you also know about......"QE6S - Asus (need FIVR baypass)"......yea,of course you know.......

Btw, I just saying that ALL (Asus and Gigabyte) OC Guides are not much helpfull for ordinary
users with RETAIL chips.

And ,I'll really like to see world records with Retail chips.

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Nice Owi... rclxms.gif ..BIOS 0503?

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Using this for binning cpu as this is the best my cooler can take with IBT.
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Hi coolice,
hope you doing well.

For intel corsair event ,I don't know which ES has been used (but I know,you has been there  biggrin.gif ).

So,you also know about......"QE6S - Asus (need FIVR baypass)"......yea,of course you know.......

Btw, I just saying that ALL (Asus and Gigabyte) OC Guides are not much helpfull for ordinary
users with RETAIL chips.

And ,I'll really like to see world records with Retail chips.
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Fully manual mode on M6E isnt QE6S only thing, it works with QEH6 as well as retail CPU, reason that we don't seem much good result is they die off easily with anything above 1.75v except QE6S (if you still remember this, the 2.56vCore isn't mis-read tongue.gif)

and things proven during Intel Corsair event by Mad222/Lin222 and 8-pack/zzolio who have taken part in top speed section with QEH6, chip does scale with vcore, provided they didnt die first wink.gif


http://www.vortez.net/news_file/3913_compe...sults-lorez.jpg
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Fully manual mode on M6E isnt QE6S only thing, it works with QEH6 as well as retail CPU, reason that we don't seem much good result is they die off easily with anything above 1.75v except QE6S (if you still remember this, the 2.56vCore isn't mis-read tongue.gif)

and things proven during Intel Corsair event by Mad222/Lin222 and 8-pack/zzolio who have taken part in top speed section with QEH6, chip does scale with vcore, provided they didnt die first wink.gif
http://www.vortez.net/news_file/3913_compe...sults-lorez.jpg
http://www.hkepc.com/9536
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Using this for binning cpu as this is the best my cooler can take with IBT.
4.4ghz 1.2v air thermalright venomous black with two noiseblocker m12p in tj11. Ambient temp 30C.
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Meaning 4.5ghz is the max cooling on prime. Ram has to be 1.65v. Currently 2133 is possible at 1.6v. so its either 2250 bclk 125 or 2400 C8.
Expecting this to take a few months.


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no idea havent tried that cause i am aiming for a 24/7 fully optimized.
Meaning 4.5ghz is the max cooling on prime. Ram has to be 1.65v. Currently 2133 is possible at 1.6v. so its either 2250 bclk 125 or 2400 C8.
Expecting this to take a few months.
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Seems like no one do HT OFF oc nowadays
I myself is very much curious to know how does it fare with less heat generated by the processor

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tRDRD aka tRRSR can't go lower or code 55 sad.gif
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Seems like no one do HT OFF oc nowadays
I myself is very much curious to know how does it fare with less heat generated by the processor
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because ht off vcore still the same dude.
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marginal
haswell issue is the contact aread, heatsink area.

dissipation not really a big issue. hence y u wont see a heatsink getting hot like sandy
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marginal
haswell issue is the contact aread, heatsink area.

dissipation not really a big issue. hence y u wont see a heatsink getting hot like sandy
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Not to mention Intel don't bother to solder their chip anymore sweat.gif
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QUOTE(OC4/3 @ Jun 22 2013, 06:53 PM)
Not to mention Intel don't bother to solder their chip anymore sweat.gif
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Die (made of silicon) is to sensitive to do soldering and the top layer of the DIE is not conductive.


Edit:
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http://translate.google.com/translate?hl=e...%25E5%258B%2592

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and other thing is why no Haswell from Costa Rica. hmm.gif

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for the life of me i cant get 1t fully stable without increasing the vdimm but that also like a yoyo.
setting 34k on read/write at 2200 7-10-7-27 2T 1.625v PSC fully stable at 4.4ghz uncore.Tested with prime for 4 hours. Got the uncore up.

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on a more depressing note, I can't even get my vcore to go above 1.000v with this Asrock Z87E-ITX.

Spent some 30 minutes or more with the interface with no luck bumping vcore. Probably one of the worst UEFI / BIOS i ever use. sad.gif
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on a more depressing note, I can't even get my vcore to go above 1.000v with this Asrock Z87E-ITX.

Spent some 30 minutes or more with the interface with no luck bumping vcore. Probably one of the worst UEFI / BIOS i ever use. sad.gif
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tweaktown manage to get up to 1.2v should be based on their past reviews and running 4.5ghz
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QUOTE(cstkl1 @ Jun 22 2013, 10:48 PM)
tweaktown manage to get up to 1.2v should be based on their past reviews and running 4.5ghz
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thanks. I don't use that many Asrock boards.

I've no problem with MSI / Asus boards. smile.gif Looks like I'll have to try again.

As you know, UEFI / Manuals are almost never helpful.
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thanks. I don't use that many Asrock boards.

I've no problem with MSI / Asus boards. smile.gif Looks like I'll have to try again.

As you know, UEFI / Manuals are almost never helpful.
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shld be same as kmar extreme 4.

so....

just dont do adaptive or offset mode for haswell.

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Instant overclocked by: AceCombat, ktek, owikh84 & kelvinchen
Just a fast overclocking, took us about 2 hours to get this done.
The objective is to build a best C/P rig only.

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QUOTE(goldfries @ Jun 22 2013, 10:02 PM)
on a more depressing note, I can't even get my vcore to go above 1.000v with this Asrock Z87E-ITX.

Spent some 30 minutes or more with the interface with no luck bumping vcore. Probably one of the worst UEFI / BIOS i ever use. sad.gif
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QUOTE(goldfries @ Jun 22 2013, 11:17 PM)
thanks. I don't use that many Asrock boards.

I've no problem with MSI / Asus boards. smile.gif Looks like I'll have to try again.

As you know, UEFI / Manuals are almost never helpful.
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I have no problems with my Asrock Z87 extreme4. Just set the CPU voltage to 1.2v and booted up with CPUz showing 1.192v. You're using the newest CPUz right?

The older CPUz actually showed 0.888v on load and 0.800v at idle..... rclxub.gif

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I have no problems with my Asrock Z87 extreme4. Just set the CPU voltage to 1.2v and booted up with CPUz showing 1.192v. You're using the newest CPUz right?

The older CPUz actually showed 0.888v on load and 0.800v at idle.....  rclxub.gif
using latest. shows me the numbers you mentioned. sometimes 0.894.

i felt it really weird cos the option is there. I set the voltage no matter how it just doesn't go above 1.0
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QUOTE(cstkl1 @ Jun 22 2013, 11:31 PM)
shld be same as kmar extreme 4.

so....

just dont do adaptive or offset mode for haswell.
all tried. all fail.

my style of OC is i don't use off-set / adaptive whatever. I prefer just set the vcore. Unfortunately this OCing experience took up 2 - 3 hours of my time. tongue.gif

k. now I'm going to update firmware, just in case it's firmware issue.

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QUOTE(goldfries @ Jun 23 2013, 12:04 AM)
using latest. shows me the numbers you mentioned. sometimes 0.894.

i felt it really weird cos the option is there. I set the voltage no matter how it just doesn't go above 1.0
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Latest version as in 1.64.3?

If I remember correctly, I downloaded the newest from CPUz's website but it is actually not the newest, showing the weird voltages.... It was only when I downloaded the link in the first page of this thread where it showed correct voltages....

Try the link in the first page wink.gif
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ok will check.

my side confusing already.

Asrock UEFI 1.776 vcore = CPU-Z ~0.88 vcore
Asrock UEFI 1.2xx vcore = CPU-Z ~0.64 vcore
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cheeehhh vomit blood. so many hours fiddling all because of CPU-Z.

That also I downloaded from the site and installed some more.

In the end had to Google out the 1.64.3 to get it to show the correct vcore. smile.gif

doing 4.2 nicely now.
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QUOTE(AceCombat @ Jun 22 2013, 11:39 PM)
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Instant overclocked by: AceCombat, ktek, owikh84 & kelvinchen
Just a fast overclocking, took us about 2 hours to get this done.
The objective is to build a best C/P rig only.

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Nice chip spotted. Later sure kelvinchen will hunt for a good Hynix RAM to strike for 3000+ IMC. drool.gif
Looks like you guys had fun with overclocking there. Too bad couldn't join (I chose my GF) =.=/
Welcome back to OC world, AceMeimei wub.gif notworthy.gif

Your OC needs some tuning to make it more efficient.

4770K @ 4.9GHz and RAM @ 2600 10-12-12-27-2T:

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Nice chip spotted. Later sure kelvinchen will hunt for a good Hynix RAM to strike for 3000+ IMC.  drool.gif
Looks like you guys had fun with overclocking there. Too bad couldn't join (I chose my GF) =.=/
Welcome back to OC world, AceMeimei  wub.gif  notworthy.gif
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smile.gif OK finally got it OCed.

Tested stability with video encoding.

4.4ghz failed no matter how I tried, even with 1.35vcore.
4.3ghz 1.25 vcore = passed.
4.3ghz 1.225 vcore = passed.
4.3ghz 1.20 vcore = failed.

Using the Cooler Master Seidon 120M, AIO WC unit. Testing the product ........ not exactly an impressive AIO setup. I feel that my air coolers can do similar / better. Can't do comparison now cos this ITX board is really small.

Will be getting ATX LGA 1150 board(s) next week so another round of OCing would ensue.

Why video test instead of prime95? I can't get the CPU to run straight at 4.3ghz. Disabling Speedstep / TurboBoost results in default speed only. sad.gif

Prime95 on the above setting doesn't push it to 4.3ghz, just hovers at 3.8ghz. The video test pushes it to 4.3ghz though.

Now I go do further test. See if Prime95 can push it to 4.3ghz for further test.

*ok I just ran Prime95 Small FFT test (didn't run the suggest test in 1st post cos that one doesn't push it to 4.3ghz) and the AIO WC couldn't take it. tongue.gif
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Die (made of silicon) is to sensitive to do soldering and the top layer of the DIE is not conductive.
Edit:
Hmm,seems upcoming 4960X coming with soldering IHS:

http://translate.google.com/translate?hl=e...%25E5%258B%2592

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and other thing is why no Haswell from Costa Rica.  hmm.gif
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interesting. More interesting when Haswell-E comes out i am jumping on it.

Haswell main market is notebook n ultrabooks. They all going to get a performance upgrade with longer battery life n better graphics with iris pro,
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smile.gif OK finally got it OCed.

Tested stability with video encoding.

4.4ghz failed no matter how I tried, even with 1.35vcore.
4.3ghz 1.25 vcore = passed.
4.3ghz 1.225 vcore = passed.
4.3ghz 1.20 vcore = failed.

Using the Cooler Master Seidon 120M, AIO WC unit. Testing the product ........ not exactly an impressive AIO setup. I feel that my air coolers can do similar / better. Can't do comparison now cos this ITX board is really small.

Will be getting ATX LGA 1150 board(s) next week so another round of OCing would ensue.

Why video test instead of prime95? I can't get the CPU to run straight at 4.3ghz. Disabling Speedstep / TurboBoost results in default speed only. sad.gif

Prime95 on the above setting doesn't push it to 4.3ghz, just hovers at 3.8ghz. The video test pushes it to 4.3ghz though.

Now I go do further test. See if Prime95 can push it to 4.3ghz for further test.

*ok I just ran Prime95 Small FFT test (didn't run the suggest test in 1st post cos that one doesn't push it to 4.3ghz) and the AIO WC couldn't take it. tongue.gif
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seems to be more or less what kmarc was describing.

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Btw i expect some cheating on cpu related benchmarks. Haswell u can change multi n voltages during stress runs. As long the new settings are correct, no issue.

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smile.gif OK finally got it OCed.

Tested stability with video encoding.

4.4ghz failed no matter how I tried, even with 1.35vcore.
4.3ghz 1.25 vcore = passed.
4.3ghz 1.225 vcore = passed.
4.3ghz 1.20 vcore = failed.

Using the Cooler Master Seidon 120M, AIO WC unit. Testing the product ........ not exactly an impressive AIO setup. I feel that my air coolers can do similar / better. Can't do comparison now cos this ITX board is really small.

Will be getting ATX LGA 1150 board(s) next week so another round of OCing would ensue.

Why video test instead of prime95? I can't get the CPU to run straight at 4.3ghz. Disabling Speedstep / TurboBoost results in default speed only. sad.gif

Prime95 on the above setting doesn't push it to 4.3ghz, just hovers at 3.8ghz. The video test pushes it to 4.3ghz though.

Now I go do further test. See if Prime95 can push it to 4.3ghz for further test.

*ok I just ran Prime95 Small FFT test (didn't run the suggest test in 1st post cos that one doesn't push it to 4.3ghz) and the AIO WC couldn't take it. tongue.gif
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Newest version of prime95 (build 27.9) would be able to stress your CPU adequately as it uses AVX FFTs. However, I found out the hard way that for windows 7, you need SP1 to enable AVX.

You should try linx 0.6.4 (10.3.7) but ensure your rig can run AVX. My temperature almost hit the roof with AVX.

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Vcore of 1.100v @ 4.1Ghz already hitting 75-79'c (about 10 mins). If I increase vcore to 1.2v, temps will hit 81-86'c in an instant. sweat.gif

The most I can do with the temperature in my comfort zone is vcore 1.153v @ 4.2Ghz

What's your temp at 1.20- 1.25v? hmm.gif

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Dunno how true but this OCN guy said that he got a 4670K Costa Rica batch from NCIX.
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Hopefully it will hit our stores soon. Our hope for better chip. biggrin.gif
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Instant overclocked by: AceCombat, ktek, owikh84 & kelvinchen
Just a fast overclocking, took us about 2 hours to get this done.
The objective is to build a best C/P rig only.

Intel Core i7 4770k @ 5.0GHz
4 cores 8 threads (1.472 vcore in BIOS)
Gigabyte Z87-D3HP
Corsair Dominator 2x2GB 1600MHz @ 2600MHz
Sapphire HD4850
Gigabyte PowerRock 500W
Corsair H100 with 4 fans

SuperPI 32m stabled. Running more tests real soon.
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QUOTE(kmarc @ Jun 23 2013, 06:40 AM)
Vcore of 1.100v @ 4.1Ghz already hitting 75-79'c (about 10 mins). If I increase vcore to 1.2v, temps will hit 81-86'c in an instant.  sweat.gif

The most I can do with the temperature in my comfort zone is vcore 1.153v @ 4.2Ghz

What's your temp at 1.20- 1.25v?  hmm.gif
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laugh.gif same as me too.around that temp . but i find it out ... cause my fan running at 8xx rpm doh.gif


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QUOTE(owikh84 @ Jun 23 2013, 10:18 AM)
Dunno how true but this OCN guy said that he got a 4670K Costa Rica batch from NCIX.
Link

Hopefully it will hit our stores soon. Our hope for better chip.  biggrin.gif
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I just check on him.....he says he got a 4670K Costa Rica 330 batch (?) and the rest of hardware waiting from NCIX.
So,I beleive is not from same place (anyway no pic at all).

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...3670k. From Frys in California last week.
Brokaw Road in San Jose, California. I got it during their Two-Day Sale last Thursday I think. GL


Dino told me a couple of weeks (last week).
Owi,what your brother in USA says?

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QUOTE(stasio @ Jun 23 2013, 12:13 PM)
I just check on him.....he says he got a 4670K Costa Rica 330 batch (?) and the rest of hardware waiting from NCIX.
So,I beleive is not from same place (anyway no pic at all).

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...3670k. From Frys in California last week.
Brokaw Road in San Jose, California. I got it during their Two-Day Sale last Thursday I think. GL


Dino told me a couple of weeks (last week).
Owi,what your brother in USA says?
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Today I am playing with Samsung based kit. Some crazy overvoltings lol.

2800 9-12-12-21-1T @ 2.275v on air

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Nice one......much better read,write,copy in Aida....as subtiming is lower.
Only you didn't show single stick how far can go....12/13-31-31-45......
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hai ...sawadee kap newbies here...wan learning about ocing proc blush.gif serious very noob

1st i try with stock volt.. oli got max 42 multiplier before fail to boot under

then try up more volt 1.2 .. set up 43 multiplier and do some testing on it

here some ss
dunno is ok or not.. did i do wrong with it hmm.gif ram temp... dunno where it come from

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QUOTE(meons @ Jun 23 2013, 01:53 PM)
hai ...sawadee kap  newbies  here...wan learning about ocing proc  blush.gif  serious very noob

1st  i try with  stock volt.. oli got  max 42 multiplier  before fail to boot under

then try up more volt 1.2 .. set up 43 multiplier and do some testing on it

here some ss
dunno is ok or not..  did i do wrong with it hmm.gif  ram temp... dunno where it come from

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Something wrong..... your LinX time is much longer and your Gflops is low. Are you running windows 7 sp1?

Take a look at mine:

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Time of 71 (seconds?) and 114 GFlops.
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gave up trying doing 1n. moving on

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QUOTE(kmarc @ Jun 23 2013, 02:06 PM)
Something wrong..... your LinX time is much longer and your Gflops is low. Are you running windows 7 sp1?

Take a look at mine:

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nod.gif yes win7 64bit sp1

rclxub.gif how to fix it?

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QUOTE(meons @ Jun 23 2013, 01:53 PM)
hai ...sawadee kap  newbies  here...wan learning about ocing proc  blush.gif  serious very noob

1st  i try with  stock volt.. oli got  max 42 multiplier  before fail to boot under

then try up more volt 1.2 .. set up 43 multiplier and do some testing on it

here some ss
dunno is ok or not..  did i do wrong with it hmm.gif  ram temp... dunno where it come from

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QUOTE(meons @ Jun 23 2013, 01:53 PM)
hai ...sawadee kap   newbies  here...wan learning about ocing proc  blush.gif  serious very noob

1st  i try with  stock volt.. oli got  max 42 multiplier  before fail to boot under

then try up more volt 1.2 .. set up 43 multiplier and do some testing on it

here some ss
dunno is ok or not..   did i do wrong with it hmm.gif  ram temp... dunno where it come from

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Set cpu voltage mode to manual
then set ure voltage
set ring voltage mode to manual
u can leave it at auto or set it = to ure vcore. up ure cache multi to 100-300mhz less than ure cpu.

is it me or it seems 4670k batches are worse than 4770k. hardly found any on the net worth mentioning.

just get the latest version of IBT. its already updated and will work.

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QUOTE(kmarc @ Jun 23 2013, 06:40 AM)
Newest version of prime95 (build 27.9) would be able to stress your CPU adequately as it uses AVX FFTs. However, I found out the hard way that for windows 7, you need SP1 to enable AVX.
oh like i mentioned, i use Small FFT settings. Prime95 stresses the processor adequately.

yes, downloaded from 1st post.

I'm using Windows 8 though.

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QUOTE(meons @ Jun 23 2013, 02:10 PM)
nod.gif yes win7 64bit sp1

rclxub.gif  how to fix it?
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Oopsss! I'm also new to Haswell.

Try IBT as suggested by cstkl1.

QUOTE(goldfries @ Jun 23 2013, 03:08 PM)
oh like i mentioned, i use Small FFT settings. Prime95 stresses the processor adequately.

yes, downloaded from 1st post.

I'm using Windows 8 though.
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Not too sure about windows 8. Here's my prime95 using small FFTs for non-sp1 (no AVX) and sp1 (with AVX)

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QUOTE(owikh84 @ Jun 23 2013, 12:39 AM)
Nice chip spotted. Later sure kelvinchen will hunt for a good Hynix RAM to strike for 3000+ IMC.  drool.gif
Looks like you guys had fun with overclocking there. Too bad couldn't join (I chose my GF) =.=/
Welcome back to OC world, AceMeimei  wub.gif  notworthy.gif

Your OC needs some tuning to make it more efficient.

4770K @ 4.9GHz and RAM @ 2600 10-12-12-27-2T:

4770K @ 5.0GHz and RAM @ 1866+ should yield 6m 20s.
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That time we spent too much time on that ES chip, which was total disappointment, around 7.30p.m we changed Kelvin's 4770k into the rig and only started tweaking all the way to 9.30pm nia sweat.gif
And we also need to let the staff inside Swisspac to go back mah, so, cabut lor~~~ tongue.gif

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Ace.... how much u building w this rigs smile.gif
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Costa Rica batch #3307B197, as per Owi notes.........first publicly posted. flex.gif

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Not too sure about windows 8. Here's my prime95 using small FFTs for non-sp1 (no AVX) and sp1 (with AVX)

Both are running default small FFTs but note the difference in the screen, type-0 FFTs vs AVX FFTs...... Your is AVX FFTs?  hmm.gif
donno. i see temps going beyond 80c, so i didn't continue with it.

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QUOTE(cstkl1 @ Jun 23 2013, 02:23 PM)
Set cpu voltage mode to manual
then set ure voltage
set ring voltage mode to manual
u can leave it at auto or set it = to ure vcore. up ure cache multi to 100-300mhz less than ure cpu.

is it me or it seems 4670k batches are worse than 4770k. hardly found any on the net worth mentioning.

just get the latest version of IBT. its already updated and will work.
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notworthy.gif notworthy.gif thank broo.... i will try again

it my mistake too .. i should build i7 rig ... but wan save some money and build as i5 rig
saving some money to grab gtx780 ... sweat.gif

mybe need sell it off ..and build i7 rig tongue.gif

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QUOTE(kmarc @ Jun 23 2013, 04:21 PM)
Oopsss! I'm also new to Haswell.

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QUOTE(stasio @ Jun 23 2013, 06:01 PM)
Costa Rica batch #3307B197, as per Owi notes.........first publicly posted.  flex.gif
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Nice one. So he wasn't cheating.
I guess Costa 4770K is also around the corner.
Can't wait to grab some of them. biggrin.gif
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Nice one. So he wasn't cheating.
I guess Costa 4770K is also around the corner.
Can't wait to grab some of them. biggrin.gif
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Yea,I asked him to show the pic.. biggrin.gif
Btw,my last Costa (IB),I also get from San Jose,California.
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What does cpu ring means?
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So from what I google-ed about uncore, it means its the baby cores. The cores that executes the tasks. So the voltage for it should equal to vcore or slightly lower? And the speed should be slightly lower right? As in 4.1ghz for 4.4ghz processor.
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So from what I google-ed about uncore, it means its the baby cores. The cores that executes the tasks. So the voltage for it should equal to vcore or slightly lower? And the speed should be slightly lower right? As in 4.1ghz for 4.4ghz processor.
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yup. i am still working on getting it at 1:1.
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Fully stable game ready quiet torrent rig. smile.gif smile.gif
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no idea how the physics score suddenly jumped up to 12300 from 12000.
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Fully stable game ready quiet torrent rig. smile.gif smile.gif

Stasio having a hard time on gaygay gay to get the cpu clock oc stable. Mem clocking is actually quite easy on stock cpu clocks.

no idea how the physics score suddenly jumped up to 12300 from 12000.
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QUOTE(AceCombat @ Jun 23 2013, 05:47 PM)
That time we spent too much time on that ES chip, which was total disappointment, around 7.30p.m we changed Kelvin's 4770k into the rig and only started tweaking all the way to 9.30pm nia sweat.gif
And we also need to let the staff inside Swisspac to go back mah, so, cabut lor~~~ tongue.gif
This one, approximately RM2500 I guess.
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aiyah this owikh84 - i thought put CPU-Z to proof ownership only. tongue.gif

nah, 4.3ghz clock image for you. hehe.

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QUOTE(stasio @ Jun 24 2013, 08:37 PM)
Which one you mean..?
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gigabyte z87 oc. sold mine to a friend lol and got a proc for him. was trying to get it up his vid was actually ok at 1.000v but hmm just the loadline on it is a bit whacky. the vcciin is all over the place.

m6e is very stable on the vccin. its pretty important for low voltage/exact voltage clock. still at it. maybe theres something else i missed. the bios is pretty good.

yeah so far no issue at 4.3ghz ram at 2400 C10 on a xspc d5 360kit.

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I'll start probably this week,will see soon.

Edit:
2 OC = 1 M6E......maybe this is the key.

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Retail 4770k 7GHz 2.176v smile.gif
http://valid.canardpc.com/show_oc.php?id=2842979

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Cooling: CM Hyper 212 Evo
Ring ratio: 4ghz at 1.155v

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Hmm, RMA rate is increasing......code 00,71,77,78...... hmm.gif

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QUOTE(stasio @ Jun 25 2013, 11:42 PM)
Hmm, RMA rate is increasing......code 00,71,77,78...... hmm.gif
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source??
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source??
Reading everywhere.......
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showth...c-results/page7


Will post tmr more.....going to bed.......
http://www.overclock.net/t/1402493/is-she-dead-4770k
http://forum.hwbot.org/showpost.php?p=251816&postcount=190

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QUOTE(stasio @ Jun 26 2013, 12:31 AM)
Reading everywhere.......
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showth...c-results/page7

Will post tmr more.....going to bed.......
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all mem clocking related afaik.

on m6e its always ends up with code 78 with the rog light showing stall at gpu dmi thingy.
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setting for 2200 C7 with uncore 4.4ghz. So far this looks like 24/7

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QUOTE(stasio @ Jun 25 2013, 11:42 PM)
Hmm, RMA rate is increasing......code 00,71,77,78...... hmm.gif
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cry.gif my mobo dead again...

i plan to grab new mobo..GA-Z87X-OC is ok... got any one have use it .. tongue.gif
http://www.gigabyte.com/products/product-p...spx?pid=4514#ov
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QUOTE(meons @ Jun 26 2013, 03:33 PM)
cry.gif  my mobo dead again... 

i plan to grab new mobo..GA-Z87X-OC  is ok... got any one have use it ..  tongue.gif
http://www.gigabyte.com/products/product-p...spx?pid=4514#ov
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seriously go for asus rog

try hero.

ngff m.2 and the board is really easy to oc the cpu part because asus made it easy.
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QUOTE(meons @ Jun 26 2013, 03:33 PM)
cry.gif  my mobo dead again... 

i plan to grab new mobo..GA-Z87X-OC  is ok... got any one have use it ..  tongue.gif
http://www.gigabyte.com/products/product-p...spx?pid=4514#ov
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Mine using Gigabyte OC. Slowly setting & configuring...cooled by h110. Hopefully see the result by tonight...waiting my 2666 8gb corsair dom.
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QUOTE(meons @ Jun 26 2013, 03:33 PM)
cry.gif  my mobo dead again... 

i plan to grab new mobo..GA-Z87X-OC  is ok... got any one have use it ..  tongue.gif
http://www.gigabyte.com/products/product-p...spx?pid=4514#ov
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QUOTE(cstkl1 @ Jun 26 2013, 03:35 PM)
seriously go for asus rog

try hero.

ngff m.2 and the board is really easy to oc the cpu part because asus made it easy.
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oops hero doesnt have

looks like only extreme, gene, not sure abt formula and the other one.

ngff m.2 ppl.


QUOTE(khaidir1976 @ Jun 26 2013, 03:38 PM)
Mine using Gigabyte OC. Slowly setting & configuring...cooled by h110. Hopefully see the result by tonight...waiting my 2666 8gb corsair dom.
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interesting.
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QUOTE(cstkl1 @ Jun 26 2013, 03:35 PM)
seriously go for asus rog

try hero.

ngff m.2 and the board is really easy to oc the cpu part because asus made it easy.
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doh.gif need sell off my GTX770 amp like this

i just sell off my i5 4670k to wan grab this mobo...


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QUOTE(meons @ Jun 26 2013, 03:41 PM)
doh.gif  need sell off my GTX770 amp like this

i just sell off my i5 4670k  to wan grab this mobo...
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Giga OC costly RM800 if you're interested... sweat.gif
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QUOTE(meons @ Jun 26 2013, 03:41 PM)
doh.gif  need sell off my GTX770 amp like this

i just sell off my i5 4670k  to wan grab this mobo...
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QUOTE(khaidir1976 @ Jun 26 2013, 03:45 PM)
Giga OC costly RM800 if you're interested... sweat.gif
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i know u guys think overclocking haswell especially on mem is easy.

its not.

theres no perfect third subtimings even for 2133 atm for anyboard. most ppl are just testing on memtest etc to check their dram voltage etc and main timings.

so just be wary. all the oc guides are actually not good at all. shams guide is more for those experienced ocers.

and the 4670 is fast. check pcgh haswell gaming performance
there are times its the fastest proc for certain games.

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QUOTE(khaidir1976 @ Jun 26 2013, 03:45 PM)
Giga OC costly RM800 if you're interested... sweat.gif
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i can mod . ocing card... but fail to ocing proc.. doh.gif need learn from basic
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my papa say if wan learn  new thing .why not .pay extra buck on it.. but not to overdos  my wallet
i can mod . ocing card... but fail to ocing proc.. doh.gif  need learn from basic
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tks... and sory about spam..in here.. basicly  i just wan  asking  and wan collect information
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QUOTE(cstkl1 @ Jun 26 2013, 05:33 PM)
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just back from local shop to cheack latest price

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This is very good price....usually is RM849.
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QUOTE(coolice @ Jun 25 2013, 12:10 PM)
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Retail 4770k 7GHz 2.176v  smile.gif
http://valid.canardpc.com/show_oc.php?id=2842979
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QUOTE(stasio @ Jun 25 2013, 11:42 PM)
Hmm, RMA rate is increasing......code 00,71,77,78...... hmm.gif
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Yeah the failure rate a bit scary - Kevin already responsible for 50% of RMA for the whole of Malaysia drool.gif flex.gif

I have tested 4 cpus but still haven't killed anything, so I consider myself lucky so far. Will start to push a bit harder on the next batch of CPU's, so might yet join the club blush.gif
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QUOTE(bob(nz) @ Jun 26 2013, 10:14 PM)
Think that is VCIN not CPU volts man. At least reading what smoke has said.
Yeah the failure rate a bit scary - Kevin already responsible for 50% of RMA for the whole of Malaysia  drool.gif  flex.gif

I have tested 4 cpus but still haven't killed anything, so I consider myself lucky so far. Will start to push a bit harder on the next batch of CPU's, so might yet join the club   blush.gif
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i think its more on the mem clocking on imc side.
but hmm do u know how to use that x-talk cancellation? i know sham gave a rough guide but other than 124 need to know which voltages it correlates with.

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This is my little baby performance, in my opinion haswell proc heat is not a problem. i play Tomb Rider on Ultimate setting 24hr (biggrin.gif) max temp never reach 60c .. only my GC 80c coz no water cooling tongue.gif .. anyway haswell rocks coz my last gaming machine is Alienware M17x-R4. Desktop 10x better then laptop. Just sharing. Feel free to ask me for any FPS i get on games . BTW the proc is auto overclock since i fed up of manual OC that makes my CPU 4.7mhz all the time and not slowing down even i only play facebook game . Quite anoyying huh ? BTW i just set OC Ginie button on my mobo and it do its job so good . Auto OC . My recomendation . MSI product rocks tongue.gif GPOWER !!

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^4GHz .....almost stock.
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Just a noob question. Should I oc the uncore first then ram or ram first?
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QUOTE(mfrworld94 @ Jun 27 2013, 11:24 AM)
This is my little baby performance, in my opinion haswell proc heat is not a problem. i play Tomb Rider on Ultimate setting 24hr (biggrin.gif) max temp never reach 60c .. only my GC 80c coz no water cooling tongue.gif .. anyway haswell rocks coz my last gaming machine is Alienware M17x-R4. Desktop 10x better then laptop. Just sharing. Feel free to ask me for any FPS i get on games . BTW the proc is auto overclock since i fed up of manual OC that makes my CPU 4.7mhz all the time and not slowing down even i only play facebook game . Quite anoyying huh ? BTW i just set OC Ginie button on my mobo and it do its job so good . Auto OC . My recomendation . MSI product rocks tongue.gif GPOWER !!

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odd all ure core shows 4.0
but task manager shows 4.5

and no idea what u mean by 4.7

QUOTE(stasio @ Jun 27 2013, 11:49 AM)
^ I talking about CPU speed,not interested in win experience index.
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stock is 3.5ghz and not 3.9. haswell single core is 3.9.

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I have upgraded from stock fan to water cooler. Now no more overclock throttling.
Fixed at 1.25V core voltage and getting 4.5GHz.

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Any idea why my task manager wont show 4.5GHz?
Before I do manual OC, I used the ROG 4-way optimizer to automatically OC my CPU to 4.2GHz, and I saw task manager show 4.2GHz speed.
Now with manual OC, it just show 3.5GHz stock speed.

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Long time didn't stress with slow RAM

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nice.

timings look familiar but i think i can bring it down some what. working on it.

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QUOTE(cstkl1 @ Jun 28 2013, 08:59 AM)
nice.

timings look familiar but i think i can bring it down some what. working on it.
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Thanks. Next try would be 2400 8-11-8 @ 1.65v
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Thanks. Next try would be 2400 8-11-8 @ 1.65v
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yeah been trying that and failing and hence doing 2250, 2266, 2333. using the straps. so far 125 really no issue but havent really tried 166 strap yet.
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QUOTE(cstkl1 @ Jun 27 2013, 09:05 PM)
odd all ure core shows 4.0
but task manager shows 4.5

and no idea what u mean by 4.7
stock is 3.5ghz and not 3.9. haswell single core is 3.9.
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it got turbo boost right ? even clocked at 4ghz its still boosting
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it got turbo boost right ? even clocked at 4ghz its still boosting
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Ure cores speed are all at 4.0.
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QUOTE(cstkl1 @ Jun 28 2013, 10:07 AM)
yeah been trying that and failing and hence doing 2250, 2266, 2333. using the straps. so far 125 really no issue but havent really tried 166 strap yet.
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yeah tried load up the PSC 2400 1.65v preset, LinX failed to proceed for the 2nd loop.
Bumping up vdimm, VCCSA, VCCIO, VTTDDR, loosening tRDRD etc don't help even at 2T. rclxub.gif
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QUOTE(Naraw @ Jun 27 2013, 12:15 PM)
Just a noob question. Should I oc the uncore first then ram or ram first?
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I'd say the importance of core > uncore = memory

So, either one first should be fine.

The Uncore speed affects the speed of the L3 cache which will benefits some memory intensive benchmarks.
L3 cache is designed for the memory subsystem in machines these days for latency compensation.

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Eh cache frequency 1000. Of course lar.
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For those interested, GIGABYTE has uploaded new BIOSes to enable K sku overclocking on H87/B85 motherboards.
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Until Intel finds a way to lock that is...lol..... tongue.gif


.....L312B376...atm......waiting for Costa...batch

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Saw that batch in jayacom. All s/n so high
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Yeah n hope costa rica wont be like low voltage but freaking hot like e8600.

Hmm advice to those reading the forums. Haswell n mem clocking stabilt is not easy. Use prime. Linx vs prime vcore needed on prime way higher.

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^ side note is LinX generates more heat than Prime95.

4.6GHz 1.325v LinX is as hot as 4.6GHz 1.44v Prime95
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Linx = same as aida fpu stress test.
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Btw talking about heat. 3.9ghz stockuncore voltage to say 4.4ghz 1.2v... Temps add another 6-8c on air.

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I am thinking to get i5 4670k with ASUS Hero. I don't have experience in overclocking CPU, do you think if I can push the base core from 3.4 GHz to 4.0 GHz using Intel HSF? Would the power consumption increased by a huge number?

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QUOTE(cstkl1 @ Jul 8 2013, 04:32 PM)
Btw talking about heat. 3.9ghz stockuncore voltage to say 4.4ghz 1.2v... Temps add another 6-8c on air.
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I am thinking to get i5 4670k with ASUS Hero. I don't have experience in overclocking CPU, do you think if I can push the base core from 3.4 GHz to 4.0 GHz using Intel HSF? Would the power consumption increased by a huge number?

Thanks.
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Np. Stock already 3.9ghz on bios core enchancement. U can bring the vcore down to 1.05. Stress tools however are impossible in our weather on stock intel cooler.
If 4ghz is ure aim a non k is more benificial as u get vtd.
Mem clocking on stock cooler.. Stick to 1600. Thats the native suppport.

QUOTE(hafizul88 @ Jul 10 2013, 11:45 AM)
May I know you are using what version of BIOS?
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031. Cause i am a stable ram nut. Skews is something i love.

But i am still pissed that u cant set the rtl manually. Its semi working.

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QUOTE(cstkl1 @ Jul 10 2013, 12:31 PM)
Np. Stock already 3.9ghz on bios core enchancement. U can bring the vcore down to 1.05. Stress tools however are impossible in our weather on stock intel cooler.
If 4ghz is ure aim a non k is more benificial as u get vtd.
Mem clocking on stock cooler.. Stick to 1600. Thats the native suppport.
I don't intent to clock the memory, as far as I know, they don't really bring much performance improvement right? As for the 3.9 GHz is from Asus Multicore Enhancement? Can I increase the turbo value to 4.0 GHz on non-k (because I thought non-k is not OC-able)?

According to this, if I understand correctly, we can no longer adjust the base multiplier to increase the turbo speed in non-k version (even the limited 4 bins)?

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QUOTE(cstkl1 @ Jul 10 2013, 12:31 PM)
031. Cause i am a stable ram nut. Skews is something i love.

But i am still pissed that u cant set the rtl manually. Its semi working.
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I just ordering 1 unit of Maximus VI Extreme. Hopefully can learn things in OC. Is it necessary to flash to latest BIOS?

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QUOTE(yaphong @ Jul 10 2013, 01:05 PM)
I don't intent to clock the memory, as far as I know, they don't really bring much performance improvement right? As for the 3.9 GHz is from Asus Multicore Enhancement? Can I increase the turbo value to 4.0 GHz on non-k (because I thought non-k is not OC-able)?

According to this, if I understand correctly, we can no longer adjust the base multiplier to increase the turbo speed in non-k version?
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I meant 3.9 vs 4ghz no diff.

QUOTE(hafizul88 @ Jul 10 2013, 01:08 PM)
I just ordering 1 unit of Maximus VI Extreme. Hopefully can learn things in OC. Is it necessary to flash to latest BIOS?
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Difference in rog m6e is just quad/tri sli, extreme benching etc.

Just dont kill ure procs n start ranting like ppl in rog forum.

Really advice ppl who are new into this to try gagay oc/ asus hero or formula n msi mpower.

Take note cpu clocking no difference on all boards n brands because of intel ivr. Extreme clocking on m6e is because of vccin limit is higher.

Gaygay n msi has topology also so dimm population clocking is the same.

Asrock formula no idea but its up there for mem clocking

M6e sham bios are pushing mem n bclk clocks. Asus officials are bug fixes etc. so no to first n yes to second depending what ure doing.

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QUOTE(cstkl1 @ Jul 10 2013, 02:58 PM)
I meant 3.9 vs 4ghz no diff.
Can we still apply max turbo boost to all cores to a non-k Haswell?
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QUOTE(yaphong @ Jul 10 2013, 03:09 PM)
Can we still apply max turbo boost to all cores to a non-k Haswell?
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Yup. Tested the hero board on vahn desk rig.
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Yup. Tested the hero board on vahn desk rig.
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By the way, your torrent rig has GTX780? blink.gif

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Cool thanks. Then I shall get i5 4670 with Hero  icon_idea.gif

By the way, your torrent rig has GTX780?  blink.gif
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stasio Not bad actually this batch initial test at 1600mhz
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QUOTE(cstkl1 @ Jul 11 2013, 01:35 AM)
stasio Not bad actually this batch initial test at 1600mhz
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I will test this week.... biggrin.gif ...been busy with other things..last 3-4 days.

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Asus ROG CPU-Z 1.65.0

Installer:
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Portable 32/64-bit:
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G1.-CPUz 1.65.0

Installer:
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Cpuz 1.65 interferes with ai suite.
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Cpuz 1.65 interferes with ai suite.
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stasio Not bad actually this batch initial test at 1600mhz
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btw i bought the 2.4C9 BFR from owikh.

Now must get some samsungs and mfrs.

samsung 2666 C10 seems hard to get.
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Bought myself the ASRock OC Formula Z87 from hikari85. Very powerful, fast boot, brilliant BIOS; yet worth the money.

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Saw a lot of extreme crunchers playing with Samsung based RAM kits on this board so I'm not excluded.  biggrin.gif

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Remember old timer Reaper rated 2.2v?
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Give it 2v+ it's not gonna kill these baddass.
Remember old timer Reaper rated 2.2v?
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Give it 2v+ it's not gonna kill these baddass.
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I see. Only samsung-based RAM kits, high-performance kits or DDR3 in general?  hmm.gif
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2.25v on air is possible.
Not for 24/7 of course I hope everybody can understand that.
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QUOTE(owikh84 @ Jul 13 2013, 11:35 AM)
Samsung scales well with voltage.
2.25v on air is possible.
Not for 24/7 of course I hope everybody can understand that.
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2.25v!!?! Wow! Nice! thumbup.gif

My rams rated 1.60v 2133mhz and I don't dare go above it..... laugh.gif
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QUOTE(cstkl1 @ Jul 12 2013, 10:53 PM)
btw i bought the 2.4C9 BFR from owikh.

Now must get some samsungs and mfrs.

samsung 2666 C10 seems hard to get.
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hynix bfr/cfr double sided sticks is impossible to do 1t on z87 ... It is platform limitation .
I still keep my bbse 8-9-8 and one more 2x4GB ripjaws 9-11-10 (samsung ic).


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http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx...N82E16820231593

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QUOTE(stasio @ Jul 13 2013, 04:47 PM)
According to nickshih,
hynix bfr/cfr double sided sticks is impossible to do 1t on z87 ... It is platform limitation .
I still keep my bbse 8-9-8 and one more 2x4GB ripjaws 9-11-10 (samsung ic).
samsung 2666 C10
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx...N82E16820231593
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Did u see owikh running 1t up to 2600 on 4 sticks of bfr.
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Did u see owikh running 1t up to 2600 on 4 sticks of bfr.
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Hmm,maybe atm on the ASRock...... hmm.gif
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showth...l=1#post5198889

Btw,fast test.....4.5.......

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QUOTE(stasio @ Jul 13 2013, 09:30 PM)
Hmm,maybe atm on the ASRock...... hmm.gif 
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showth...l=1#post5198889

Btw,fast test.....4.5.......

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nice

but here is a hint
linx/intel burn test will accept 0.05v to 0.1v less. but not prime
ure realy vcore up to 44 is the same as ure uncore..

meaning try running ure vcore and uncore at 44 both at the same voltage.

thats ure vcore. after that uncore gets tricky but vcore still can scale

btw i found the issue. running 2.4k C9 1T now.

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No way u can do this on any other board. Sham RTL guide and bios 031.
Although it was a bit off... 4x4gb is different...
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4.5.......LinX 10.3.12......fast test (still not trimmed)

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IBT.......
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@cstkl1,

Since you had killed so many proc biggrin.gif, mind telling me the vcore when the proc died? You were saying that they died when vcore was low right?

What was the reasons they died or in other words, what not to do when overclocking Haswell?

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QUOTE(cstkl1 @ Jul 14 2013, 03:48 AM)
No way u can do this on any other board. Sham RTL guide and bios 031.
Although it was a bit off... 4x4gb is different...
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Impressive. Obviously it is a BIOS issue since Z77 I couldn't run the same kit at rated specs even at 2T. That's why I said 0031 is amazing. thumbup.gif
As for OCF, I think nickshih's reply is not satisfying sad.gif because the same kit worked on MVIE at 1T without any issue and no insane overvolting has been done.
Something wrong with the BIOS for sure.

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4.5.......LinX 10.3.12......fast test (still not trimmed)
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Nice thumbup.gif
Now everybody is playing with Samsung @ 2800+ 9-12-12.
Would you try that on your Z87-OC? biggrin.gif
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2.25v!!?! Wow! Nice!  thumbup.gif

My rams rated 1.60v 2133mhz and I don't dare go above it.....  laugh.gif
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It is okay bro don't worry RAM is durable and life-time warranty biggrin.gif
I've never killed a RAM, except for one module of RipjawsZ 2400C9 which was running at stock 1.65v. sweat.gif
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@cstkl1,

Since you had killed so many proc biggrin.gif, mind telling me the vcore when the proc died? You were saying that they died when vcore was low right?

What was the reasons they died or in other words, what not to do when overclocking Haswell?
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all low. 1.2-1.25v. procs died because of mem. I think those procs were weak. current proc has reached 78 code before a few times but will bounce back on full bios restart.

QUOTE(owikh84 @ Jul 14 2013, 10:07 AM)
Impressive. Obviously it is a BIOS issue since Z77 I couldn't run the same kit at rated specs even at 2T. That's why I said 0031 is amazing.  thumbup.gif
As for OCF, I think nickshih's reply is not satisfying sad.gif because the same kit worked on MVIE at 1T without any issue and no insane overvolting has been done.
Something wrong with the BIOS for sure.
Nice  thumbup.gif
Now everybody is playing with Samsung @ 2800+ 9-12-12.
Would you try that on your Z87-OC?  biggrin.gif
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hmm its the rtl and the difference with the new hynix profile and auto is also rtl. new hynix its lower. my the 2t=1t in auto.

Me loving the rtl again.

yeah his answers are one liners and so far on the wrong assumption.
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Nice  thumbup.gif
Now everybody is playing with Samsung @ 2800+ 9-12-12.
Would you try that on your Z87-OC?  biggrin.gif
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Yea,sure will try later.
This is with 2933 @ 4.5GHz.........

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QUOTE(owikh84 @ Jul 14 2013, 10:13 AM)
It is okay bro don't worry RAM is durable and life-time warranty  biggrin.gif
I've never killed a RAM, except for one module of RipjawsZ 2400C9 which was running at stock 1.65v.  sweat.gif
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I see.... will try OCing the rams one day then.....

QUOTE(cstkl1 @ Jul 14 2013, 10:30 AM)
all low. 1.2-1.25v. procs died because of mem. I think those procs were weak. current proc has reached 78 code before a few times but will bounce back on full bios restart.
hmm its the rtl and the difference with the new hynix profile and auto is also rtl. new hynix its lower. my the 2t=1t in auto.

Me loving the rtl again.

yeah his answers are one liners and so far on the wrong assumption.
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That low huh? I suppose you mean weak because of the weak IMC?

QUOTE(stasio @ Jul 14 2013, 11:04 AM)
Yea,sure will try later.
This is with 2933 @ 4.5GHz.........

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I see.... will try OCing the rams one day then.....
That low huh? I suppose you mean weak because of the weak IMC?
Nice  thumbup.gif. Are you using adaptive or override for CPU voltages? I can't seem to get C-states on override on my ASROCK....  doh.gif
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I also kill one bbse kit on 1.65V blush.gif ......2-3 years ago.
Read on XS/HWbot, one of them running samsung ic on 1.72+V 24/7 for 5 months and still strong.
EIST,C3,C6/7.........all on Auto,but before I found 4.5 @ 2800 stable.....all disabled.

Btw,I start late one month,compare to others.......and atm I have only one 4770K,so must be carefull not to kill.

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I also kill one bbse kit on 1.65V  blush.gif ......2-3 years ago.
Read on XS/HWbot, one of them running samsung ic on 1.72+V 24/7 for 5 months and still strong.
EIST,C3,C6/7.........all on Auto,but before I found 4.5 @ 2800 stable.....all disabled.

Btw,I start late one month,compare to others.......and atm I have only one 4770K,so must be carefull not to kill.
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I see. What about your CPU voltages? On override or adaptive once stable?

Yeah, I only have one of each (cpu, mobo, rams, PSU, DVD-rom laugh.gif) so must be extraaaa careful.... biggrin.gif

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CPU voltage is fix.......trying to lower as much I can.
Btw,GB don't have override or adaptive.
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QUOTE(stasio @ Jul 14 2013, 11:40 AM)
CPU voltage is fix.......trying to lower as much I can.
Btw,GB don't have override or adaptive.
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Oh ya, just noticed that your c-states were active (running 800mhz) but vcore still 1.267v.....

GB don't have override or adaptive? I thought it was a feature of z87 mobos.....

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Last rams that died pn me was dom gt hypers - 2 sets, dom gtx2. Team xtreem ddr2 800cl3s( gaygay killed it)
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Oh ya, just noticed that your c-states were active (running 800mhz) but vcore still 1.267v.....

GB don't have override or adaptive? I thought it was a feature of z87 mobos.....
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If I using offset voltage...yes.
Anyway CPU running on 10W.

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Last rams that died pn me was dom gt hypers - 2 sets, dom gtx2. Team xtreem ddr2 800cl3s( gaygay killed it)
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Haha,my bbse 8-9-8, GeneZ (my first and last Asus) killed.......coincidence. nod.gif

Edit:
Uhh,the same GeneZ killed also F3-17600CL8D-4GBPS (hypers).... doh.gif

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Haha,my bbse 8-9-8, GeneZ (my first and last Asus) killed.......coincidence.  nod.gif

Edit:
Uhh,the same GeneZ killed also F3-17600CL8D-4GBPS (hypers).... doh.gif
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Think ure definition of kill diff.

Gagay burned the rams n ram slots. Lol. Smoking n frying it. Voltage was at the rated rams vdimm.


Hypers die. Not killed.
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Urgghhh.... makes me wanna go out and buy some rams for backup and OC my current rams kaw kaw.....

(Deeeepppp breath).....no no..... patience...... exhale........ blush.gif
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Same sticks,2800 from 12-14-14 going down to 11-13-13 @1.66V......

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Hynix mfrs/cfr?. Thought ures were sams
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Ok now to down the vcore or get 4.5ghz uncore and cpu core.

this is damn fast.

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QUOTE(stasio @ Jul 14 2013, 07:29 AM)
4.5.......LinX 10.3.12......fast test (still not trimmed)

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IBT.......
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Haha,you are still on me........
It's bug in earli GTL..3=1...4=2......sometimes tRAS=0....... blush.gif

Edit:
just shifted things in new casing.........NZXT Phantom 630 Ultra Tower

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Ok, now I don't feel that bad. Most haswell OC to 4.3ghz or less at 1.2v on air. biggrin.gif

Read first page:
http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/best-h...swell,3554.html

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QUOTE(stasio @ Jul 15 2013, 06:26 PM)
Haha,you are still on me........
It's bug in earli GTL..3=1...4=2......sometimes tRAS=0....... blush.gif

Edit:
just shifted things in new casing.........NZXT Phantom 630 Ultra Tower
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Eh didnt want want for the phantek casing???

Gtl??

I am still trying to solve the 4.5ghz uncore scaling.

Btw when lower the uncore ure core voltage goes down. But the exact vcore is at 4.4 1:1.

Hope more ppl show their vcore .4.4 ..1.1

Shams skews are damn nice. Solves high vdimm scaling

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My first attemp on Haswell sweat.gif

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My first attemp on Haswell  sweat.gif

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but change ure tRDRD from 5 to 4.
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This is the result after I change the tRDRD from 6 to 4

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Eh didnt want want for the phantek casing???

Gtl??
Yes,my first choice.......but is not available yet....maybe somewhere in August.
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Hi,

4670K 4,5 GHz @ 1,21v ; an average chip i guess.

same vCore than AIDA64, i'm surprised.

10 degres hotter tough. The room is hot, the Thermalright makes a good job.

Loose RAM, i don't have decent modules ATM.



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http://download.gigabyte.us/FileList/Utili...her_8series.exe
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QUOTE(The Real Deal @ Jul 17 2013, 02:15 AM)
Hi,

4670K 4,5 GHz @ 1,21v ; an average chip i guess.
if yours is average then mine sucks.

I can't get to 4.5 with 1.25v.
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Searching through the web some infos about my batch, a person told his chip need 1,16/17v for 4,5 GHz.

No screenshots though.

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Hi,

4670K 4,5 GHz @ 1,21v ; an average chip i guess.

same vCore than AIDA64, i'm surprised.

10 degres hotter tough. The room is hot, the Thermalright makes a good job.

Loose RAM, i don't have decent modules ATM.
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Hi,
Searching through the web some infos about my batch, a person told his chip need 1,16/17v for 4,5 GHz.

No screenshots though.
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Batches mean squat on hadwell. Sincre ure running 4 core
Try linpack from intel.
Linx says my 4.5ghz at 1.2 n 4.3ghz at 1.1.

Intel linpack avx2 4.2ghz at 1.1v. Above this cannot run lol cause too hot. Glops 2xx. Especially the last problem size.

Linx takes 0.05v less than prime n intel linpack 11.
Linpack 11 doesnt support ht so either disable ht to test or edit the bat file n change one of the lines cpu affinity,

So far been very accurate. No need waste my time on prime so much.

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I know, just an old habbit since Nehalem

http://software.intel.com/en-us/articles/i...inpack-download

Already tried, runs 10 degres C hooter than LinX 0.6.4 AVX Edition

around 95 degres C for 1,21 ; my cooler can't handle this, lol.
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QUOTE(The Real Deal @ Jul 17 2013, 09:29 PM)
I know, just an old habbit since Nehalem

http://software.intel.com/en-us/articles/i...inpack-download

Already tried, runs 10 degres C hooter than LinX 0.6.4 AVX Edition

around 95 degres C for 1,21 ; my cooler can't handle this, lol.
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totally recommended. it finds a lot of problems on rtl, twl, tRFC etc that i cannot find on prime, memtest and linx.
Hmm curious abt that size 25000...

Any next run at 40000 only about 14gig. 5 runs. Normally i find that having the mem increasing problem size more stressfull.

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Finally. Stopped the run as cannot see any fails

U need residual numbers for every run to match up for fully stable.
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Me liking the New Linpack. Reduce vcore and speeds to get stability before upping back. 4.5ghz now shld be 1.25v

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Hmm didnt see the reading.. that shld be failing soon.
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Ok for ure sake i am going to make this very simple
Step one Run optimize. Set ure HDD settings etc and boot settings. keep this default and save.
Step two enter windows and run msconfig and choose diagnostic mode and then choose ure startup CLick all the asus ones and intel integrated clock service.Click apply but dont restart yet. Reason is do now want to corrupt ure hdd on the test we are going to do.
Step Three download Linpack 11 from Intel. Google it. Then modify this in linpack/benchmark folder of the program u downloaded.
runme_xeon64.bat
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@echo off
SETLOCAL

rem Setting up affinity for better threading performance
set KMP_AFFINITY=nowarnings,compact,granularity=fine
rem Setting path to OpenMP library
set PATH=..\..\..\redist\intel64\compiler;%PATH%

echo Running linpack_xeon64.exe. Output can be found in win_xeon64.txt.
start /b /affinity 55 linpack_xeon64.exe lininput_xeon64 > win_xeon64.txt

echo.
echo When this window closes the calculation is done.

ENDLOCAL

and then also edit this file
lininput_xeon64
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Sample Intel(R) Optimized LINPACK Benchmark data file (lininput_xeon64)
Intel(R) Optimized LINPACK Benchmark data
1 # number of tests
42500 # problem sizes
42500  # leading dimensions
1 # times to run a test
4 # alignment values (in KBytes)

Create a shortcut of win_xeon64.txt & runme_xeon64 into ure desktop.
Step 5 Download realtemp

Restart.

Step 6
Enter into asus bios and change only these. Run all ure cores at 42. Change ure vcore to 1.1v
Disable CPU spectrum.
Dont bother with ram atm. and enter back into windows. Run aisuite and real temp. Run the shortcut runme_xeon64. Wait for it to finish. If u see ure cooling cant take it close the command window and use aisuite to dial it back down to 1.05v but generally it should be able to with those megahalems. This are 1 run so will take about 4-5mins. if u can pass it and u see in ure
win_xeon64.txt the result once its completed .

keep upping ure cpu multiplier till u bsod/restart.

this is best way and fastest way i know to confirm ure vcore and ure cpu multi. Once u confirmed ure voltages and since this test is a bit insane. U can up ure muti for every 1 with 0.05v on the vcore after this test.

the rest dude read up on the guide by sham.

also once ure done run msconfig and choose back normal.

ok now back to mem. This is complicated for 2400mhz. Run the xmp. Up ure vcssa to 1-1.1v and up ure analogue i/o voltage until u can enter windows basically. Also xtalk is important at this stage if u want to maintain ure cpu vcore/voltage scaling. So up this also. Reducing PLL Termination Voltage from 1.2v to 1. this helps sometimes. BTW Disable Full manual and use manual mode on cpu only. VCSSA stock is 0.825v-0.85v depending on ure cpu and analogue i/o is 1v default.

Run Linpack but u may want to change it from 1 run to 20 runs.

when ure done up ure uncore voltage same as ure vcore and up ure cache speed. Start with 1:1 with cpu and back it down. everytime till u can pass all the runs of linx.

VCCIN seriously follow the spec. Initial 1.7v with eventual 1.65min to 1.86v max with a difference of 0.4v. so in case of 1.1v choose 1.65v eventual.

Long term optimization for full stability. Secondary timings, RTLS. Changing from semi manual to adaptive and enabling full c-states depending on ure PSU.
happy clockin ppl.
khaidir1976
post Jul 21 2013, 07:34 AM

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cstkl1....kudos for the guide smile.gif
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post Jul 21 2013, 12:40 PM

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hi to all the overclocker guru here notworthy.gif notworthy.gif notworthy.gif , i need some opinion about pc building. gonna build my own 1st pc this week, budget is limited and around 3.5k-3.8k with monitor, casing n some other small thing.
that pc will be mostly for photo n video editing and off course some gaming. plan to do hackintosh also. thinking of this setup

intel i7 (i7-4770k) 3.5ghz
gigabyte z87 ga-z87x-ud3h or mybe
gigabyte z87 ga-z87x-d3h
corsair vangeance ddr3 16gb pc1600
gigabyte nvidia gtx650 ti 1gb ddr5 128bit
kingston ssd hyperx 3k 120gb
corsair power supply tx 650w atx

with this setup it is possible to do some overclock? icon_question.gif
maybe something need to change or add hmm.gif

for the mobo i think should stick on gigabyte series since need it for hackintosh based on tonymacx86 configuration

thnx in advance icon_rolleyes.gif

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post Jul 21 2013, 12:46 PM

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@kucem, i prefer giga oc mobo for ocing...again go to 2400mhz or higher for this!

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QUOTE(khaidir1976 @ Jul 21 2013, 12:46 PM)
@kucem, i prefer giga oc mobo for ocing...again go to 2400mhz or higher for this!
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giga oc mobo is around 1+++ right? demm need to funding some more cry.gif
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QUOTE(kucem @ Jul 21 2013, 12:56 PM)
giga oc mobo is around 1+++ right? demm need to funding some more  cry.gif
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I have 1 new giga oc mobo...the price is affordable...already PMed you if interested.
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QUOTE(khaidir1976 @ Jul 21 2013, 01:06 PM)
I have 1 new giga oc mobo...the price is affordable...already PMed you if interested.
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will kiv bro smile.gif tempting price also

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