So happens that the improvements from the campro is not significant enough to justify the extra cost to implementing them on their cars. Seems like R3 engine mods increases more on the engine compared to Campro.

Disclaimer: The above is what I HEARD, no confirmation on that rumor, but well, people here might be interested anyway.

some minor correction ... the Campro engine was suppost to build for WAJA first... but then due to the cam profiling problem .. the engine has been delay and replace by the 4G18... after 3 years.. they came out with GEN2 .. using Campro WITHOUT Camprofiling but they call it CAMPRO!... then now after another 2 to 3 years.. they put the so call CAMPRO engine into the WAJA and sell it! .. still without CAMPROfiling...

If im not mistaken .. WAJA surface around 1999 ... where the CAMPRO engine should be release together with its CAmprofiling technology but yet delay .. till now it has been like 7 years.. nothing about the CPS technology has been heard yet...

guys, i think we juz have 2 face the truth.. that proton developing any sort of cam profiling system on their engine is juz pure BULLSHIT!!

I have been following the Proton engine development since they announced the SEng ( Small engine ) development which implementing the Cam profiling technology. If I am not mistaken that was somewhere around 6 years ago. After seeing the bullshite that proton produced in Gen 2. I would say it's deceiving. How come you can name it Campro without actual cam profiling technology in it ?

This post has been edited by igor_is300: May 13 2006, 09:05 AM

thats y i said we actually have 2 face the fact now that all that is pure BS!!

i call that .. MARKETING STRATEGY...
u can see nowadays .. those uncle, aunty, kids.. without much knowledge.. they will says .. GEN2 is very good.. bcoz it uses CAMPRO engine!..when u ask them .. what do u know about campro?? .. they will says.. isnt it something like VVTI, VTECH, DVVT.. those kind of stuff??... yea .. SHOULD Be ... but instead .. it is juz a name for it... same as i can name my 4G93P as VTECH .. lolz~

actually, ure kinda rite there.. quite a number of my friend's dads bought gen2, most of em like it coz of the design.. n when asked bout the engine, they all said that its very good, coz its a malaysian made.. most of em doesnt know wat the heck cam profiling is..

one thing to clear it off, the engine maned as CAMPRO is because the cam profile they used is different from the normal engine (and i don't mean performance engine over here).

The engine did some very impressive figure on prototype GEN2, which is 165BHP stock and without CPS. but same as the production, the engine do equipped with VIM system. and thisfigure achieved without violating Euro 4 emmission standard.

but due to the cost problem (plotong alwaysliked to cut cost for profit...) the engine used some rather cheaper material and the horsepower is reduced to the figure shown today......

and to fully boost the ability of the campro, you need some very skilled engineer to tune the ECU up. which none exist in any Klang valley service centers.... but there's one at batu pahat.

for my Gen2, i can have my 0 to 100 kph with near to 9 sec. and this is achieved without the need to fully depress the acceletor.

CAMPRO is a good anddecent engine. for mine, the torque is maintained from range of 2000rpm to 5500rpm. I don't think any of the "normal" japanese car seen in malaysian market have the same capability.

This statement is valid for my 2005 DEC Lennox black HL manual GEN2. i do not sure the previous batch, but I have a friend with 1st batch GEN2 mentioned the same thing.

The 165 HP, was that only an experiment by the company?
Pretty impressive.

With CPS, expect 170-175?

The car still exist. if I'm not mistaken, one in Lotus UK, one in Tg Malim & one in shah alam. built cost is more than RM100k if i'm not mistaken. however, the condition of the car is unknown, rumour says that the car is now used solely on technical training purposes. so i presume that they're dismantled.....

i do not know figures with CPS, but according to enginnering, the gain is 30% with CPS, you do the math.....

Whoa!!!
214.5HP!!!

it's using cheap material, so the hp is reduced... So will it reduce the engine durability if u go tune it up again?

What if they make a 2 litre and put it in that sportscar that Proton's been bragging about many years ago?

It'll have 270HP!!! NA engine somemore!!! Proton could beat Hondas!!!!

This post has been edited by tunertoobe: May 13 2006, 12:40 PM

LOL'ed

They could beat Honda but still stuck with power window problems.

kahkahkah

that will never happen ...lol

You mena torque is maintained from 2000 to 6500 rpm.

any one wants my putra?? .. i wanna sell it d lar.. since Gen2 can outperform my car... somemore Gen2 only pay 1.6 road tax... 1/2 price somemore!!!>.. hehahahhaha

LOL... Ur putra car how many years jor?
Gen 2 interior very nice.. sporty...
Campro engine ok lar...

the reason of not applying CPS n VIM in campro it simple. proton just cannot produce enough engine to cover up the cost back ! if they put the CPS n VIM in campro, they will be losing money every single campro engine they produce with the tech.
example,at the moment only gen 2 n waja using campro engine.
based on february report waja 1.6 is 2258 and gen2 1.6 is 1064.
roughly we take combine of waja n gen2 is 4000 unit a month.
4000 X 12 months is only 48 000 units a year.
tht simply not enough and at the moment, proton will take a long time just to recover the campro R&D money.
so do u think they will put CPS n VIM n lose more money ? unless they can put all the cars with campro. then i guess enough to recover the money back.