hmm...i thought 4G92 DOHC (1.6 litre) normal one is around 120hp or more... and the torque is quite good also.

because 4G91 DOHC (1.5 litre) is already 110hp.

i will say campro engine is as good as vtech, even better...

wah.. u sound like come from Proton.. brave man.. please elaborate ur statement.. I believe most of us would like to listen...

are u a campro owner?

How come Gen2 doesnt seem to sell well overseas ar?

because foreign cars like honda, toyota and most of the european cars aint taxed like mad except for some south east asian country, like us. within the same price range, proton is no comparision to japs and european cars. also due to its unpopularity, spare parts are often more expensive. dont forget about depreciation too coz the used car market out there is full car with better quality.

This post has been edited by -=Axis=-: Apr 29 2006, 11:40 PM

Campro certainly have potential. It can beat VTEC if Proton really tries.
I mean really, VTEC is not impossible to beat.

Civic Type R's 1.6 chunks out 185bhp

there is potential..but wil take time for boleh land engineers to R&D..lol

i would like to add something... if i remember correctly... 4G92 SOHC (local 1.6 type) .. produce 112hp... (darn old technology and yet a single cam) ...
but then gen2 .. new tech (of coz without the CPS system ) .. only gets 110hp yet with a DOHC ... geeez... somemore weak low end torque from wat i heard most... judge urself ..

a 4G92 DOHC should be 120hp ++ .. not to says Mivec.. and of coz no fight with VTECs..

How come all this statement disagree one to another one..

mingson : see what i said about asking in the wrong place, if you don't believe the HP figures there are dyno charts in our forum to back them up.Not just hearsay.

the foreigners have better choices unlike us. The gen2 has dubious quality for them. Even though its cheaper than the Japanese and other european cars the maintainance and the 2nd hand value is horrible, similiar like European cars over here. That why the gen2 sold poorly in the UK.

read properly, he says IF proton really tries... hehehe

4G92 SOHC 1.6 already produces quite good torque and power at low end
To me Campro, high revs only.....if city driving (compare Waja & Waja Campro), I still prefer the old 4G18 engine

Gen 2 in Japan... ?

nope.. thats in taiwan i think.
wah... nice rear spoiler.

its japan plate number if im not mistaken.. not far from my frens place, he used to stay there.

Hey... dont compare Campro yet lah..

Wait till the engine 'fully finish' i.e Camshaft Profiling fitted in...

then only compare....

If you still wanna compare to other 1.6 engine, I say the current Campro is still sux...

i'm gen2 driver... , just wanna give some opinion...

if you'r a peaceful driver who drive with good habit as in NOT, in rush or always wanna overtake or wanna race with mivec or vtec...
then gen2 is ok for you.., the engine is ok ok lar... but don't expect to race with 4g93 or b16a... larrr... s4ph is just a plain normal engine without cps , vvt ..

while if you'r a driver who likes to accelerates alot... the one who likes from speed 30km/h expect to boost up to 120km/h in a few seconds... or those who likes to overtake front car although they'r on 70km/h ... or those who likes to tiong` others back....
then gen2 is a no no for you... , might as well just get a bmw e30 with 2jz or rb26dett .. race with mivec or vtec turbo ... kao kao...



This post has been edited by phunkydude: Apr 30 2006, 02:46 AM

those words are chinese, not japanese. the plate reads GaoXiong, thats a city in taiwan.