You still don't get it don't you? What is the use of contributing to your responses when all you've posted are rubbish? Your information on dimensions of the car are taken off the website, but your other opinions are rubbish and all cheap talk, unsubstantiated information. So, get your facts right and stop twisting the facts when you are asking for some back-up information, when you yourself failed to provide backup to substantiate all your "subjective" rubbish thoughts. Nobody would care to respond to your posts anymore since nobody would care to respond to an immature individual like yourself. You still dont' realise you look like a fool with all your drivel. Truly an embarrassment to yourself.

The potato representation truly fits you to a tee.

Ha ha until now I am don't get from @JayrXxx what he want..

Buy a car is most likely on very happy day and happy to visit your selected cars showroom and willing to pay for what you want..

About RV?
Why need to consider and concern about RV in the 1st place?
Did you buy today and sell for next day? Like a markets stocks?
Just prefer you investment resident lah.

How any reason? I don't get what's our mass brother want.
Talk about FC? Actually most of able to affordable for that D segment still worried about FC for what purpose?

Rather than buy smaller Viva lah.

Wanna enjoy the ride and don't want fill in the petrol an how to keep your car runs?

Keep about Dimension measurement is it possible?
Did you measurement your wife as a standard world wide size????

Our brother really keep going to be crazy of car car world... Lol

This post has been edited by kimsim: Jun 19 2013, 08:49 AM

fc go for mazda 6.
teana bad fc.

plus mazda is a newer model wit newer tech.
of cos le go for mazda?

Whatever you say seems more rubbish. You should look in the mirror to evaluate yourself before you attack others' views and comments with nothing.

You can't even tell why carmakers would make angled pillars and frames yet thicker. Sacrifice so much space and left with less interior space for what? All for safety reason. You can try to get hit in Passat and then try again with Teana both at same speed and angle if you wanted to argue further.

You should change your username to other brands rather than disgracing VW and conti makes here. People share and free to talk about cars here so that owners and consumers get smarter. Not to be brainwashed and continue to be cheated by car companies. If you are not siding with carbuyers and consumers, then stay out of the way.

so taking this context... u are a disgrace to KIA brand too?

aint kia cheating too when their advertised 165 HP engine did not even produce close to 135 HP on wheel?
or their fuel consumption claims?

Admin please close this thread.

Kia FC claim for city & highway that involved in lawsuit is achievable under traffic of 80's and early 90's in the US/EU. Carmakers standard FC reading has been based on city traffic of the 80's and early 90's all these while.

As US/EU traffic today in city and highway are much heavier than they were in 80's and early 90's, none of the carmakers' FC claim are achievable and set as never exceed FC guideline.

Your Almera easily get beyond 20km/L is nothing more than never achievable at all under zero city traffic on real road. Only achievable with customised fuel tank designed to cheat fuel pump nozzle in lightfoot. The same goes to your Sylphy, Lavina. You bunch even trained your sellmen in their training guide to inform customers 13km/L in Teana 2.0L and 2.5L in city driving. This is truly cheating and violation. You do this in overseas, you'll cause the company to close shop.

You are truly an idiot.

I wonder why people are still taking a lot of effort trying to win an argument on the Internet.

since ur choice is only between teana & mazda 6, i vote for mazda 6..
i duno the performance of teana, but mazda 6 looks promising.
and teana's design is a big no-no..

Hahahahah....true. They are making joke of themself

If it is still worth it. My view - Mazda 6. Same reason as others smart forumners....because it is new technology. Plus is the looks & CBU

Stupid la you. Teana still gets 6 star JNCAP what you say? Pillar thick and thin important meh? The steel strength more important loh. What D segment qualification? Camry can a? VSC-less until recently ler

Plus you recommend people to buy Altis DualVVTi for family? Try sitting at the backseat and tell me. Wider so what? Legroom macam Vios why need to waste 50-60k? CVT? Teana pun ada. Sylphy pun ada. Cheaper also

What if i say that CVT is lighter mah~ [Proton said] and DSG is alot heavier ma, two clutches leh, you go weight a clutch module and see?

The JATCO cvt is used by Lancer also you don't shoot lancer? As long as gearbox is good..why change leh. Toyota style mah. 1st gen -> 3rd gen Vios same mechanical leh you don't shoot?

Also on the thickness, as long as it is stronger itself why make it thicker leh? Hmm? Mitsu Mirage also look tin milo like but ANCAP got very good results also. Your point very wrong you know? What hot stamping technique blablabla, those only Proton themselves say, its been employed by others long time ago, just nothing to shout

Obsolete engine..so what? It's a V6. Still better than 4 cyl minus fc. The sound of it creamy smooth. Your Camry K5 can fight?

Yeah, old does not mean bad. Back then many engines and cars might actually made stronger/more durable and already well proven to be almost bullet proof, compared to newer stuff nowadays which are manufactured with cost constraints/savings very much in mind.

You surely sound like a stupid fool. Are you 17 years old or something? IT's not that people don't want to relply to your posts, but your so-called "facts" are not only inaccurate but rubbish. I am not referring to the facts on car dimensions taken off the website but your other "facts".

You appear to have a lot to say, but the fact is all you've posted just show what a shallow-minded fool you are.

Jay, can you share with us the contact for the 20k matter? at least to justify the reality of the claim first before we move to other topic (i.e. thickness of teana door)?

i just cant rely on that claim unless that is valid feedback from the TC service center.

Ppl will get boring should you just refer to your repeating claims without proof. If the fact is correct, i believe alot of ppl here will appreciate your warning.

This post has been edited by LD Jr: Jun 28 2013, 12:28 AM

kongbingleek & Dwango,

Another fill in the blank with offensive word. Can't stick to point talk usually the loser.

Thickness of pillars and angle of the slope are vital in determining chassis survival rate. Japan safety rating, what governs them in the first place? Do you think Japanese would play fair in their own domestic market? They tax non-local made worst than us, that is why they could barely afford conti, Korean or US made in Japan.

US and EU safety rating have to stick to facts due to very strong consumer rights law. 1 mistake could land them in lawsuit end up paying dearly. I praise the old Camry '07/09 that come with VSC standard. Same goes to old Altis.

The Altis FL dual VVTi, it is overall good car and passed C-segment category. Legroom is still acceptable for 5'10" adult unless he is the long leg short torso type. FC is truly exceptional. Vios does not have the interior width and legroom is still less than Altis. Besides, Altis has descent handling that passed basic requirement allowing it to turn at higher speed than Vios.

Sylphy & Teana failed C-segment and D-segment category respectively. They have flat straight sides with thin frame and pillars yet no angled sides meaning that they'll absorb impact completely rather than deflect. Both never been through US/EU safety rating evaluation. Stop taking Japan NCAP into comparison, they are not even up to US/EU standard & strictness. So why want to waste your few years of saving to buy a car that failed C or D segment category end up sticking to wrong car for another 7 years of loan commitment?

I don't shoot Lancer because it passed C-segment standard and they give enough quality. Quality does not mean just interior, since it's more performance oriented, they gave quality multi-link and also, quality engine and angled body. That explains why lancer RV is still strong despite existence of Inspira. Sylphy RV dropped like flies when more owners and public knew it's nothing worth. Teana might end up the same anytime soon.

LD Jr,
The 20,000km service interval was applicable when Sylphy introduced in 2008 and early 2009. Later they followed Lancer at 60,000km service interval.

So base on the theory of sauce for the goose also for the gander, European would lie about their car safety (Euro NCAP not reliable) American would lie about their car (NHTSA not reliable), so which crash test is reliable then ? Do you worked in J-NCAP ? If not how do u assume their crash test not reliable ? How about many Nissan car had pass ANCAP (Australia) ?? Teana was available in Australia correct ? How on earth Teana to be sent to test in Euro NCAP & NHTSA if the car r not meant for their market ? U too had said Almera doesn't look like able to pass crash test initially base on the from beam look short, but when I show u US Versa Sedan which use the same chassis/body & pass US crash test u simply avoid to re mentioning it, why waste u time here, get a degree in automotive engineering & start up a independent crash test facility to prove ur point.

Nobody listen to u in AW, even the admin is making fun of ur comment, now come to LYF to repeat the same garbage comment.