anyone agree to donate a airasia holiday to this person?

Dude, so sorry if I offense you. But I'm not here to bash any brand or any car makers, just I counter back what he written so far. You were asking me the difference in between me and that fellow, I was wondering are you reading all the statements written from him? Very obvious he would promote the Korean made all over the lowyat.net and I wouldn't do such stupid way. In front he would praise the Japanese car such as Mazda 6, but when turning around he would change he statements and said something else about how good is the K brand compare to the Mazda6! I hope you can read carefully before reply any comments, unless you want to join that stupid!

Non taken. I've been following this thread since the start. It's informative in it's own way.


Anyway pls don't lump me with anyone's reply or response, i replied because it just doesn't sound right to me the way you responded to his reply namely this :

"And please don't ever use Japanese car compare to your Korean brand, Japanese still a class above your Korean brand, don't jealous on those Japanese brands success, I can tell you loudly that my next car would be Japanese or Conti, no no to your Korean brands, that's it, please stop spamming in lowyat.net, we are here to talk about cars, not about your Korean brands, especially your lowya K-brand!"

So it doesn't make a difference, because at the end both of you guys in general are bashing all(* if not all) car makes.

Can you guys call it a truce and provide more facts and technical infos bout the mentioned cars instead? So that this thread can continue on the correct path.

cheers

Dude, like I said earlier, what I written was to counter back to that fellow and I have no mean to bash any brands or whatsoever. If I really did offense you because you are driving a Korean made and feel really unpleasant after reading the statements that I counter back to that fellow, then I'm here to apologise to you.

Cheers

come on,

ppl who doesn't agree with you or doesn't have the same opinion doesnt mean he or she drives a korean car.

what you typed is not to counter but to bash a certain makes bro.

dont generalise and also dont contradict what you have typed earlier.
anyway i have a few makes in my place, so take your pick.

anyway, peace.

This is more exciting than Malaysian politics man. It is real politics here. Why is everyone missing it?

Lucky me.

WTF, discuss cars until kacau bilau.

Would like you to help monitor these guys who attacked bias reply on this thread.
19 Degree South
kcng
Volkswagen2
feelfree

So far, none of them have replied anything related to Teana vs Passat questions I threw at them. Since they said my comments are false, so where are their remarks so far? I'll give them few more days. If they kept saying it is not answerable, then wonder how Jeremy Clarkson Top Gear, Tiff Needle's Fifth Gear, Singapore Motoring magazine, US Motor Trend, Australia's Car Advice, and those professional journalist performing true and accurate evaluation and measurement on reading, results, etc could even have the results in the first place. How come each car score different score on safety rating, etc? Fact is, every factors count in the car for the result.

More and more consumers have more knowledge on cars, carmakers and car companies will not treat us as third nation and won't be able to cheat in giving us products. Healthy competition and comparison will ensure we'll get more and more quality products rather than backward products with way too much cost cutting. It is time for Malaysian to wake up.

Yawn...yawn....

Please grow up and stop showing your immaturity here. You still don't realize you look like a fool with your postings.

Dude, why don't you crawl back to your Autoworld hole instead of creating more mess here. People are sick reading all your ramblings here. Those who are regulars on Autoworld would have known what an idiot you are with your childish responses particularly on the Nissan forum.

To be honest I'm sicker of some other people here... yes, jayraptor seems to have some huge hatred against Nissan... maybe he once owned one and his child died because of that... but other than that he is quite reasonable. And the arguement with Teana doors being flimsier... well, it's not unreasonable to think so, his point is quite good.

Just some facts here:

1. Nissan Teana door is slimmer especially the lower part because there is no bottler holder in all 4 doors hence the roomier interior... BUT a platform with front & rear tread of 1560/1565mm is indeed a D segment car.

2. If you compared with many other D segment sedan, Teana has the biggest headroom, making it easier to go in and out without hitting your head.

3. Being lighter is an advantage. Teana has the highest power to weight ratio than its competitors.

4. Teana uses an ultra-strength tensile steel with lightweight characteristics which is similar to the material used to build submarines. This can only be produced utilizing highly advanced technology.

5. The xtronic CVT transmission fluid for Nissan Teana needs to replace only at every 100,000 km

1. Actually compared the thickness of Teana doors, pillars and frame with other D-segment. It is thinner. Bottle holders? I didn't even include that in thickness measurement for other cars. People looking at the safety feature frame thickness.

2. No point having much space inside only by forgoing the present day required safety chassis compartment design. Others have smaller interior space because they have to build angled frames and chassis so that they don't absorb force of impact entirely. Also, the thickness is required to pass crash test safety rating in US/EU. If like that, Passat, Mondeo, Pug508, BMW, etc, why bother to use up much space on frame thickness safety? They can just cut cost with flat straight thin frame and get full size sedan interior.

3. & 4. If lightweight due to use of new hot stamping technique high tensile strength like Mazda 6 Takeri bigger but lighter than older Mazda 6 '08 is fine. But if light by cost cutting using cheap materials, that is not nice at all. Does Teana has tensile strength in the first place? Sorry, it has only tiny bits of that material but no hot stamping technique compared to competitors. There is no new technology found in Teana, everything traditional and cheap. In return, they give extra soundproof insulation.

5. The X-CVT (gear 2.349~0.394) in Teana is obsolete gearbox that was phased out by JATCO. The better ones with bigger stronger gears are fitted in Infiniti and also found in Mitsubishi Mirage (gear 4.007~0.55). Technical SC has confirmed the ATF NS2 fluid change in Teana/Sylphy depends on its density condition as diagnosed by diagnostic tool reading. If condition is not good, they'll advise you to change.


Looks like 19 Degree South, kcng, Volkswagen2 & feelfree confirmed have nothing to say in Passat vs Teana chassis design explanation. So where are the facts since you can call others measurement comment rubbish? There's nothing you can back up with? Only posted unrelated info? So declare you all eyesore and wanted to prevent owners & carbuyers from sharing info?

actually i cant reply because i am too busy rolling on the floor laughing my ass out from your replies...

WHAHAHAHAHAAH... keep it up...

here's a potato from me

Lol...potato looks decent than a retard talking to himself.yawn....

1. I wonder whether you go and measure every car door's thickness.
Anyhow, i'm very sure Teana door is not slimmer than any new C-segment cars.

2. Having thicker door and frame doesn't mean it is safer. The mechanism placement and design is very important. In some cases during accident, driver and passengers were trapped inside the car because the door couldn't open.

3. 4. and 5. Many of your points are not true. Please do some research and get your facts right. Don't expect to get free answer here.

This post has been edited by digir: Jun 18 2013, 12:23 PM

The current Teana is 2008 car, while Mazda 6 is 2013

To me, I'd rather take Mazda because it is new and cheaper

Ofcourse, not just thicker doors but angled pillars, doors and frame to assist in deflecting impact rather than absorb everything. You should look into everything instead b4 come up with final conclusion. Check again, Teana doors, pillars and frames aren't thicker than quality C-segment unless you are comparing it with older '01/03 Japanese C-segment.

Also not to forget, angled pillars and frames with more aerodynamic sides determine safety rating. Quality C-segment Pug408/308 and Focus would score best whereas Civic, Forte, Elantra are scoring good. Not to forget, even Altis '08/10 passed US safety rating and it too has angled sides.

By the way, Teana is D-segment, aren't you supposed to compare it to D-segment instead? In US/EU safety rating, C-segment usually scored lower than D-segment in safety rating. You are not giving answers at all but trying to cover up the flaws.

Compared Teana vs old Mazda 6 '08 both exterior width 1795mm:
- Mazda 6 is sports sedan like Nissan Altima US therefore they are smaller than Camry '07
- Teana is not and it emphasized on maximise interior space and forgo the thick and angled frame/pillars/doors as cheap alternative suited for Japan local domestic market. It is not meant for global market in the 1st place.
- The interior space of Mazda 6 is less as it comes with angled and thick frames/pillars/doors to pass safety standard
- Mazda 6 comes with expensive conti style suspension setup to get proper handling, it is made for passion drive
- Also, Mazda has been known to use much high tensile strength material with proven safety on global and in here.

Why waste ur time speculating Nissan car does not meet crash test standard, go & apply for a job in Asean crash test institute, run the test & prove it, what said day & night here r mere self imaginative, what make think Japanese crash standard r not reliable ? isn't car like Altis, Camry also been test in Japanese crash test ? So u mean the result for Camry, Altis is true but Teana, Sylphy not ?
I bet when Altima & Sentra launch here again u would speculate, our version use less material, guess what u have a partner here share the same view, wakakaka, Nissan use less welding here but Korean car do not.
2 of a kind, totally biase on Nissan car, u r really nervous over Nissan success in our market right, second best selling non national car, without Forte sales ur Kia number sure tumble one.