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 Nokia Lumia 1020 & Various Nokia M$ Talk, RM2,499 with camera grip.

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post Jul 12 2013, 03:44 PM

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QUOTE(aspire2oo6 @ Jul 12 2013, 12:47 PM)
but they always have a flagship.

For samsung is note 2 and S 4 now.

Nokia their flag ship change 4 times a year wth
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really, 4 times a year?
I can't see that cos to me, Lumia 925 isn't actually a next version of Lumia 920, it is more like Lumia 920's variant with minor bump but they are still in same batch of products.
Like how Samsung Galaxy S4 got variants like Active, Zoom etc.
So I can't see why Samsung can do it and it is okay, while Nokia do it then it is not okay?

Also, the first Lumia 920 released November 2012, and this Lumia 1020 seems to be released worldwide and reaching us by another 3 months so that makes it October 2013. So, it is about 11 months cycle, which is practically the same as S3 (May 2012) to S4 (April 2013). So, I don't see why there are 4 times flagships in a year there?
If you meant from Lumia 800 to 900, then to Lumia 920, then yes, I have to admit that Nokia do have problems on schedule of releasing the phones back then, perhaps it was about that time when they start mass producing Lumia 900 and suddenly MS told Nokia that WP7 cannot be upgraded to WP8, so they couldn't just halt the production half way so they ended up just releasing Lumia 900 and suffer the brand damage.

At least now all Lumia (WP8 series) get the updates; while Samsung, I cannot say for sure.

However, there is one thing that I have to salute Samsung for, their phones always available for sales very soon, usually just about one month after announcement.
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post Jul 12 2013, 03:49 PM

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http://pureviewclub.com/2013/15270

this post quite detailed into the camera optics part...
for example lumia 1020 has a RGB sensor for better white balance than 808
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QUOTE(aspire2oo6 @ Jul 12 2013, 12:47 PM)
but they always have a flagship.

For samsung is note 2 and S 4 now.

Nokia their flag ship change 4 times a year wth
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LOL, super strategy on board.
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post Jul 12 2013, 05:12 PM

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I think one of the better, new feature over the 808 pureview is the ability to save both high reso pictures and oversampled at the same time.

Also not to mention the ability to re-crop any part of the image that you want.
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QUOTE(freakenstein @ Jul 12 2013, 05:12 PM)
I think one of the better, new feature over the 808 pureview is the ability to save both high reso pictures and oversampled at the same time.

Also not to mention the ability to re-crop any part of the image that you want.
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Dun forget BSI sensor and OIS (optical image stabilization). drool.gif
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post Jul 12 2013, 05:31 PM

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QUOTE(arbelnox @ Jul 12 2013, 03:44 PM)
really, 4 times a year?
I can't see that cos to me, Lumia 925 isn't actually a next version of Lumia 920, it is more like Lumia 920's variant with minor bump but they are still in same batch of products.
Like how Samsung Galaxy S4 got variants like Active, Zoom etc.
So I can't see why Samsung can do it and it is okay, while Nokia do it then it is not okay?

Also, the first Lumia 920 released November 2012, and this Lumia 1020 seems to be released worldwide and reaching us by another 3 months so that makes it October 2013. So, it is about 11 months cycle, which is practically the same as S3 (May 2012) to S4 (April 2013). So, I don't see why there are 4 times flagships in a year there?
If you meant from Lumia 800 to 900, then to Lumia 920, then yes, I have to admit that Nokia do have problems on schedule of releasing the phones back then, perhaps it was about that time when they start mass producing Lumia 900 and suddenly MS told Nokia that WP7 cannot be upgraded to WP8, so they couldn't just halt the production half way so they ended up just releasing Lumia 900 and suffer the brand damage.

At least now all Lumia (WP8 series) get the updates; while Samsung, I cannot say for sure.

However, there is one thing that I have to salute Samsung for, their phones always available for sales very soon, usually just about one month after announcement.
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Let me share my perspective on this issue.

S4 variant are from a s4 because its a flagship.

If nokia does lumia 1020 zoom edition I can accept or maybe lumia 1020 active I can accept because its a variant of the same phone.

What you explains actually make it worse because example lumia 1020 announce yesterday because its the improved version of 920 ppl look forward to 1020. I follow your claim 3 months later Malaysia get it when US gets it maybe in 1 or 2 months time. Delay delay then 5months past so US have the chance to enjoy the phone for 5months when malaysian get only enjoy 3 months due to the delay. Then they announce another improved version with that your 1020 have already drop by 20 to 40% in value about 3 months.

So can u tell me this year which is the flagship of nokia?
Lumia 920? Lumia 925 ? Lumia 928? Now Lumia 1020 or since its just mid of the year between sept to dec nokia will launch another one.

I salute too samsung wont out of stock even its popular but nokia not many ppl wants also out of stock maybe their marketing strategies to create an illusion that too much demand over supply.

I am using note 2 I get so much updates until I get so annoyed.

I was there when nokia n9, nokia lumia 800, 900 and 920 was launched. You can feel stephen elop do it on purpose.


I have nothing against nokia but the way they strategist their phone launch timeline is terrible.

I even got the nokia 808 pureview nokia kill symbian within the few months it launched.

Lumia 1020 looks awesome for the camera 41mp and OIS its just pawnage but this phone will always be my 2nd phone if I have the extra budget or I rather buy a new ultrabook
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Great phone.lucky 925 didnt come earlier.now no need to think anymore.haha 1020 faster come!
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QUOTE(neo0915 @ Jul 12 2013, 05:17 PM)
Dun forget BSI sensor and OIS (optical image stabilization).  drool.gif
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True! But something I might have said thousand of times is that the lack of expandable storage is a flaw for potential buyers. Especially when you are promoting a 41MP phone. So I guess backing up after a day of shooting/camwhoring would be a habit now.

But I'm sure a lot are hoping to have expandable storage , they removed it since they created the unibody polycarbonate design sad.gif
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QUOTE(SJ Chua @ Jul 12 2013, 03:49 PM)
http://pureviewclub.com/2013/15270

this post quite detailed into the camera optics part...
for example lumia 1020 has a RGB sensor for better white balance than 808
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I wonder if pureview got this info correctly. No mentioning that it will have rgb color filter. In fact, it explained about bayer color filter and how oversampling helps.
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post Jul 12 2013, 08:03 PM

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What's the issue with flagships anyway? For me, whenever I buy something, I only look for what I need. I don't have to buy the best, most expensive model because I don't have the need to show off that I have the best model.

Those who are angry that Nokia releases top models too quickly, surely have some kind of ego issues coupled with financial issues.


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post Jul 12 2013, 08:30 PM

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Mende nak marah marah Nokia? Samseng dgn Iporn nak capai 20megapixel pun susah.

but i gotta agree that nokia strategy is a let down.
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Some might misunderstand maybe like you said you yourself have ego problem just because you lack of experience in planning what you want not necessary others must follow. To you maybe life is all about gadgets but in reality there more to life.

Maybe financially thats all you can afford dont talk about property investment, travel maybe out of your league possible?

We are also confused why are you angry over a phone dude. Come on its just a gadget that will get outdated within months. Cheer up dude. We are just disappointed.



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post Jul 12 2013, 08:44 PM

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Some Nokia fans are a funny bunch. Before EOS, pray it will happen. After it happened, dream it never happened.

If you can't keep up, that's your Damn problem. Work harder so that you could afford it.

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QUOTE(andrekua2 @ Jul 12 2013, 08:44 PM)
Nokia fans are a funny bunch. Before EOS, pray it will happen. After it happened, dream it never happened.

If you can't keep up, that's your Damn problem. Work harder so that you could afford it.
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Every OS and phone also got these kind of people de lah whistling.gif
Just buy what you're comfortable with and use the phone for 2-3 years. After that change again. biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(Icehart @ Jul 12 2013, 09:03 PM)
Every OS and phone also got these kind of people de lah  whistling.gif
Just buy what you're comfortable with and use the phone for 2-3 years. After that change again.  biggrin.gif
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True also
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post Jul 12 2013, 10:06 PM

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QUOTE(Icehart @ Jul 12 2013, 09:03 PM)
Just buy what you're comfortable with and use the phone for 2-3 years. After that change again.  biggrin.gif
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Hey agree with u man rclxms.gif
planning to maybe buy it after lumia 1020 price drop like half LOL (some might call me cheapskate but i'm just trying to get a better price) plus, i have a 808 pureview so actually camera-wise not so much of an urge to upgrade, more interested into the ecosystem n that camera grip accessory brows.gif

anyway, in short, we just buy what we like, appreciate it and enjoy~ thumbup.gif
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really want to say this... 'tak sukak, jangan beli'...

keep saying nokia drop price so fast....samsung galaxy s4 more fast lar....non-lte version rm2199 in april drop to rm1850 in june...
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QUOTE(xSean @ Jul 12 2013, 10:14 PM)
really want to say this... 'tak sukak, jangan beli'...

keep saying nokia drop price so fast....samsung galaxy s4 more fast lar....non-lte version rm2199 in april drop to rm1850 in june...
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yea true mang

samsung price more fast drop

all raging liek hell laugh.gif
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Just sharing sensor size in comparison :

user posted image

BSI vs FSI sensor at the end of the day. tongue.gif
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post Jul 12 2013, 10:49 PM

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qPnESWmg2rk

i see that the purple tinge (during low light conditions) during recording on both left and right side is still visible, but I'm glad its lesser than the one in 808PV. its purple tinge is flashy and annoying!!!

I'm still glad for Nokia. finally people will recognize the 41mp more. of course, we have to tell our friends how it works because they simply can't think out of the box, always having samseng iporn samseng iporn in their minds shakehead.gif shakehead.gif shakehead.gif

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