Will definitely upgrade to 1020 once the price is affordable for me... Lumia 920 still serves me perfect...
Not an App-whore who whine for "no this app and no that app"...
Feels like some smartphone users are actually App Collectors who only want to show off how many apps they can install and practically not even opening the app once a month!
But of course, I just hope Microsoft can keep up their effort in pushing WP instead of leaving all the effort to Nokia alone.
HTC and Samsung practically doing nothing for the WP ecosystem but whining on low market in WP...
Please la.. they didn't put any effort and expect their phone can compete sales with Nokia?

But it has 2GB of RAM!

one thing that is bugging me regarding this camera grip, will it cover the speakers and block em? If the speakers are placed similar to L920, then I think the speakers are being blocked...
I hope this is just the prototype of camera grip.

really, 4 times a year?
I can't see that cos to me, Lumia 925 isn't actually a next version of Lumia 920, it is more like Lumia 920's variant with minor bump but they are still in same batch of products.
Like how Samsung Galaxy S4 got variants like Active, Zoom etc.
So I can't see why Samsung can do it and it is okay, while Nokia do it then it is not okay?

Also, the first Lumia 920 released November 2012, and this Lumia 1020 seems to be released worldwide and reaching us by another 3 months so that makes it October 2013. So, it is about 11 months cycle, which is practically the same as S3 (May 2012) to S4 (April 2013). So, I don't see why there are 4 times flagships in a year there?
If you meant from Lumia 800 to 900, then to Lumia 920, then yes, I have to admit that Nokia do have problems on schedule of releasing the phones back then, perhaps it was about that time when they start mass producing Lumia 900 and suddenly MS told Nokia that WP7 cannot be upgraded to WP8, so they couldn't just halt the production half way so they ended up just releasing Lumia 900 and suffer the brand damage.

At least now all Lumia (WP8 series) get the updates; while Samsung, I cannot say for sure.

However, there is one thing that I have to salute Samsung for, their phones always available for sales very soon, usually just about one month after announcement.

Good morning bro.
I kinda see your point there, I guess we kinda have different perspective on the variant I supposed.
According to your perspective, 1020 Zoom and 1020 Active will only be considered as variant as they are based on the 1020 the flagship.
However, in my perspective, I actually treat the Lumia 920 as the flagship of the first WP8, and 925 & 928 are the variant that are based on the L920. I don't know how others people actually think of this.
So I guess this is where our opinions conflicted... haha...
As for the delay, I know Nokia has the problem of undersupplying their flagship devices usually worldwide.. however, this problem is not only plagued on Nokia flagship alone, I think Apple iPhone 5 also has similar issue, where the phone is available about September 2012 while us Malaysians can actually get it in December 2012 IIRC (or November?)
So I guess this is the fate that us Malaysians usually have to accept and get used to it now. Haha...
But still I agree to your point that Nokia should keep up with their flagship phone timeline delivery issue.

As for the December phone, I guess it will be based on the new chasis that runs WP 8.1 that will allow quadcore and 1080 resolution, so yeah... but I kinda doubt they will release a 41MP Pureview on that device, most likely they will try other innovation perhaps focusing on the Speakers or Pelican technology.

Just my two cents

on a side note, is there any difference between AMOLED and Oled +?
Although I still prefer IPS SLCD due to the color production is more accurate, but if OLED or AMOLED can improve the battery consumption, then hey I'm all in for that. Just hope they didn't over saturated it like Samsung phone did most of the time, Vibrant and vivid but just fake.
PS: HTC ONE SLCD is superb.

This post has been edited by arbelnox: Jul 13 2013, 07:49 AM

sweet~
Nokia Pro Camera will be available for Nokia 920,925 & 928
http://pocketnow.com/2013/07/12/nokia-pro-camera

yeah, i noticed that sales volume of Nokia and Apple are different. Just trying to say that Malaysians or some other countries are just getting the phone delayed for a couple of months. It doesn't matter the volume, just the fact that the phones are delivered region by region and we are getting them much later than Singapore, USA, Europe etc.
So we cannot blame Nokia alone for being delivering the products so late. By your logic, we can say the same for Apple and Samsung. Samsung GS4 and GS3 has much more sales than iPhone (IIRC, I could be wrong), but still why can Samsung get them available for sale here while Apple cannot?

Anyway, so AMOLED = OLED?

Sure~ Thanks.

Well, Nokia didn't say they didn't want to bring it in, just that Malaysia will be MUCH MUCH LATER than other countries as we are not in their priority list, even China and India tops us.
And you guys know why? Cos Malaysians are obsessed with only Samsung and Androids phones. Let's face it, WP's acceptance or adoption rate in Malaysia is so low... I guess probably about 0.01% (yeah, I'm exaggerating) of all smartphones users?
So, if you are Nokia, will you bother to release your phones in Malaysia first? Or you will release your phones in other countries that have higher adoption rate of your devices?
So, I'm not gonna blame Nokia on that... Just that we are too niche to their markets... is all...
Just my 2 cents...

But still you guys in West Malaysian will still get the phones much EARLIER than us East Malaysia folks...
So, please don't be too upset... haha...

For those who wanna get better grasp of how Nokia Reinvented Zoom works


the more I see, the more tempting I wanna get the phone...
Still gonna hold my urge till the day it offers with the camera grip bundled (like how Lumia 920 + Wireless Charging Plate lately)...

This post has been edited by arbelnox: Jul 15 2013, 08:44 AM

Well, you have to consider their cost of delivery per unit if just deliver in small quantity. It just won't justify their profit margin if just to test market. For Malaysian's case, if the fans really love the phone, they will wait as long as they know that the phone will be reached eventually. There is no harm for Malaysian's market to flock to Samsung or Apple since there is only a TINY LITTLE MINI % of global market.
That's how I will look at us Malaysian's market from Nokia's perspective.


Usually won't be too long after China release, just worry about limited stocks though... so either have to grab fast or wait even longer. As for me, I don't mind waiting any more longer since I still have my Lumia 920 with me. Am going to try the amber updates with Smart Camera Pro then WP 8.1 afterall. Never regret getting Lumia 920 ever.
Though still kinda jelly to those who get 1020 first...


Malaysia facebook? Well, I think these people are just a bunch of Facebookers who are just hired to play Facebook only. They ain't in position to plead the Nokia Global to release the phones to them at all.

you missed the legendary super brick that has phone call capabilities!!

announced? You mean for Nokia Malaysia? hmm... I thought they already somehow hinted that it will be coming. Just don't have exact date. I could be wrong though... cos I usually don't bother their website until I see the announcement from here.
You made a point there bro, control your hype and everything's cool. DESIRE is the source of all kind of emotions.
Wow... sounds like a shifu who lives in deep jungle or top of mountain. LOL

yeah, but what I really like is the ability to crop any picture at high resolution after the photo is taken. So no need to keep adjusting and zooming here and there just to find the perfect size on the spot. haha...
Hope that Pelican tech is upgrade-able via software updates and this will make L1020 the perfect camera phone.

This post has been edited by arbelnox: Jul 16 2013, 11:55 AM

my mistake, it is Pelican Imaging, not Pelican Tech. Can't remember the exact name. Haha..
Just wondering if this is hardware dependent or can be upgrade via software?

Nice perspective.

Nokia phones always facing BIG challenges in Malaysia anyway cos it is running Windows Phone. So, I don't really think the scenario could be worse for Nokia.
Samsung Note 2 really is a superior device in most aspects except its build quality and quality control so it will definitely gain boost on sales on GNote 3 too, that I expected as much. But for I am a Lumia 920 user, I got all the 95% of the apps and features I need on daily basis; while GNote 3's awesome features, though sounds extremely wonderful but the features are not required in daily basis so it may become only gimmicks for me. Therefore, I think Lumia 1020's features and apps will just do suffice on my need, not to mention that 41MP can be REALLY USEFUL in circumstances, such as travelling and attending concerts, seminar etc.
Note? I can take note on my Vaio Duo 11 with bigger screen and more features. Besides, it is not hard to get a pen and a paper right? Where can you find another 41MP shooter on notebook or whatever camera in such form factor nowadays?
Always easier to bring a pen than bringing a DSLR camera all day in and day out.

This post has been edited by arbelnox: Sep 9 2013, 08:30 AM

yeah, cos it will leave Note 3 WAY FAR BEHIND!!!
Just kidding... the chances will still be Samsung reigns the mobile world due to its marketing that already implant the impression that it is cool and smart to own a Samsung device.

Indeed. I miss the "Swipe Right to View" gesture on the stock Camera. Being using Nokia Pro Camera now only.
Long press to fire up camera is really convenient feature that should be available in all smart phones.

I don't know bro... Lumia 920 the first Windows Phone 8 was released back in September 2012 (source: GSMARENA), so that makes it only a year old phone (Not counting from Malaysia release), and we already have like 2 updates (GDR 1 and GDR 2) in a year, not including about a couple more updates from Nokia, so I don't think that they are updating the OS really slow or anything. At least better than my android phone which maybe only eligible for 1 update only? Cos the OEM just dump the previous FLAGSHIP's update after new FLAGSHIP coming up.

Yes, I do understand your rant about those basic features are losing as for current smartphone's standard, but I think they are just trying to introduce new technologies (which mostly beneficial to their own regime thanks to our slow progress in infrastructure), but ended up back fired cos the mass just couldn't accept their way of trying implementing new solution (aka Cloud Solution - a reason why SD card is not intended in WP 7.0). Nevertheless, their email attachment sucks whole time.