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Photography The Official Nikon Discussion Thread Ver.20, Nikon when you fix the D600 dust gate!?

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post Jul 11 2013, 11:54 AM

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QUOTE(KTCY @ Jul 11 2013, 11:48 AM)
tell me why those graphic designer need quadro system then ? smile.gif
GTX 280 quite old card right ?
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post Jul 11 2013, 11:55 AM

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QUOTE(slimfox @ Jul 11 2013, 04:24 AM)
Ah but my point is Canon's marketing is telling you that their dslr does video's very well. When it should be take fantastic pictures with a bonus of some video making.

Guess that is why I choose Nikon. Camera for pictures with a bonus of video (not saying that canon can't take good pictures too).

Proper video camera would be \http://www.panasonic.com/business/provideo/professional-camcorders.asp
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Bang, takde RM14k dont mention proper hd camcorder (professional one) laugh.gif

One advantages of hd cam is that can do MCP during events. Other then that a normal dslr is more then capable smile.gif
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QUOTE(celciuz @ Jul 11 2013, 11:53 AM)
If you're referring to CGI etc, I agree. But we are now talking about Lightroom.

*not sure how old is the GTX280, but should be higher end than my HD4870.
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GTX280 released yr 08

QUOTE(amduser @ Jul 11 2013, 11:54 AM)
graphic designer ma, we do photo editing only sweat.gif
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Lightroom actually quite hunger for ram and etc.
But well, I run on my i5 rig, 16gb and SSD no lag hmm.gif
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post Jul 11 2013, 12:14 PM

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QUOTE(celciuz @ Jul 11 2013, 11:53 AM)
If you're referring to CGI etc, I agree. But we are now talking about Lightroom.

*not sure how old is the GTX280, but should be higher end than my HD4870.
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Correct, Lightroom doesnt need decent GC, but as u say saving at hdd and ssd deliver almost same speed, especially when u spot removal, and brush alot, it start lagging, im running on ssd crucial m4, 8gb ram , i5 also feel abit lag sometime when doing alot of layer brush, editing 18mp raw file only, I cant imagine how slow if edit d800 raw @@"

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QUOTE(KTCY @ Jul 11 2013, 12:08 PM)
GTX280 released yr 08
Lightroom actually quite hunger for ram and etc.
But well, I run on my i5 rig, 16gb and SSD no lag hmm.gif
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You must be using some high end graphics card I assume?

QUOTE(chongkiatz @ Jul 11 2013, 12:14 PM)
Correct, Lightroom doesnt need decent GC, but as u say saving at hdd and ssd deliver almost same speed, especially when u spot removal, and brush alot, it start lagging, im running on ssd crucial m4, 8gb ram , i5 also feel abit lag sometime when doing alot of layer brush, editing 18mp raw file only, I cant imagine how slow if edit d800 raw @@"
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From my experience, I shoot with both D700 and D800 in NEF 14-bit lossless, basically during post processing as I arrange the images based on shoot time I can't exactly tell if I'm editing on 12MP or 36MP... feels similar to me in terms of speed and system responsiveness, but I have a habit of generating all the 1:1 previews ready. And yes I use a lot of spot removal too + brush layer ever since LR4 and now LR5 I rarely get into Photoshop unless I need liquify.
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QUOTE(celciuz @ Jul 11 2013, 01:55 PM)
You must be using some high end graphics card I assume?
From my experience, I shoot with both D700 and D800 in NEF 14-bit lossless, basically during post processing as I arrange the images based on shoot time I can't exactly tell if I'm editing on 12MP or 36MP... feels similar to me in terms of speed and system responsiveness, but I have a habit of generating all the 1:1 previews ready. And yes I use a lot of spot removal too + brush layer ever since LR4 and now LR5 I rarely get into Photoshop unless I need liquify.
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Me too , only go photoshop when i need liquify , other than that LightRoom 4 can done the job , from the review Lightroom 5 even more powerful especially the spot removal tools , i gonna try it one day biggrin.gif


For me , editing MediumRAW and LargeRaw got different , especially when u using Brush tools , u will feel lagging on LargeRAW file when brushing , i feel smooth on MediumRAW/SmallRAW , JPEG have the most smooth editing experience

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post Jul 11 2013, 06:49 PM

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QUOTE(celciuz @ Jul 11 2013, 11:00 AM)
To be honest I don't remember... I didn't buy new GC for this PC, using my old 4870 GS, should be 1GB vRAM.
Tried, but no significant differences. My OS installed on SSD, and my virtual memory is on SSD as well, but rarely got usage since I have 16GB RAM.
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Yea when editing, the difference is minimal since it's already loaded in memory. But when you load next picture, I think there should be difference. Or even startup lightroom or when you activate lightroom from background, etc.

Didn't really monitor VM, but from my previous experience, seems Windows will use VM even if you have more than enough RAM.

Are you on Windows 7 or 8?

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QUOTE(Andy214 @ Jul 11 2013, 06:49 PM)
Yea when editing, the difference is minimal since it's already loaded in memory. But when you load next picture, I think there should be difference. Or even startup lightroom or when you activate lightroom from background, etc.

Didn't really monitor VM, but from my previous experience, seems Windows will use VM even if you have more than enough RAM.

Are you on Windows 7 or 8?
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I'm on 7, 8 didn't catch my attention yet LOL.
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QUOTE(KTCY @ Jul 11 2013, 11:48 AM)
tell me why those graphic designer need quadro system then ? smile.gif
GTX 280 quite old card right ?
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I think quite different thing, Lightroom and PS eats a lot of RAM and Processor power compared to GC.

My laptop only have built in Intel HD3k GC but with i5 and 8gb ram, lightroom and ps don't really lag a lot when processing my RAW files.
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QUOTE(mingyuyu @ Jul 11 2013, 08:01 PM)
I think quite different thing, Lightroom and PS eats a lot of RAM and Processor power compared to GC.

My laptop only have built in Intel HD3k GC but with i5 and 8gb ram, lightroom and ps don't really lag a lot when processing my RAW files.
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yea.. correct.. they no need a powerful gc
all they need is ram, ssd and processing power
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Awaiting for the MBP Haswell to arrive... at the moment my notebooks aren't powerful enough sad.gif But I was thinking if my desktop with i7-3770 also not that smooth... I wonder how would the MBP perform :S
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QUOTE(celciuz @ Jul 11 2013, 10:46 PM)
Awaiting for the MBP Haswell to arrive... at the moment my notebooks aren't powerful enough sad.gif But I was thinking if my desktop with i7-3770 also not that smooth... I wonder how would the MBP perform :S
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is that your PSU aging? XD
because my old rig PSU aging (still working) and power output slowly decrease till it spoil my graphic card recently. and HDD nearly die...

till my friend use my new PSU to feed higher power to make it normal state unsure.gif

i'm not sure about that la.
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QUOTE(celciuz @ Jul 11 2013, 10:46 PM)
Awaiting for the MBP Haswell to arrive... at the moment my notebooks aren't powerful enough sad.gif But I was thinking if my desktop with i7-3770 also not that smooth... I wonder how would the MBP perform :S
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Retina mbp 15 is fast! But of course expensive sweat.gif laugh.gif

I tried LR5 on my studio imac 27 inch, seems to be okay. Didnt try with D800 raw file yet though lol
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I am finding a photo that was posted a while back showing the skyline of KL day and night fused in a single panorama.. Is it in V20 or V19?
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QUOTE(Agito666 @ Jul 12 2013, 01:18 AM)
is that your PSU aging? XD
because my old rig PSU aging (still working) and power output slowly decrease till it spoil my graphic card recently. and HDD nearly die...

till my friend use my new PSU to feed higher power to make it normal state  unsure.gif

i'm not sure about that la.
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QUOTE(gnome @ Jul 12 2013, 05:02 AM)
Retina mbp 15 is fast! But of course expensive sweat.gif  laugh.gif

I tried LR5 on my studio imac 27 inch, seems to be okay. Didnt try with D800 raw file yet though lol
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Yeap, but its the only few with IPS screen. I actually prefer Windows, but haven't seen one with IPS and good price. I mean if the Windows is going to cost as much as a MBP, might as well buy a MBP?

But at the moment waiting for Haswell, since its around the corner. Just don't like buying Apple items when it has release for sometime since its close to EOL. I always buy them when they release, "last longer".
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maybe this help...

http://photographylife.com/efficient-light...solution-images
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QUOTE(ongdennis @ Jul 12 2013, 09:29 AM)
Thanks for sharing mate notworthy.gif
The render 1:1 Preview thing is worth trying haha laugh.gif

And of course, upgrading to an SSD will significantly decrease loadtimes
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QUOTE(ongdennis @ Jul 12 2013, 09:29 AM)
Awesome tip, will try this out smile.gif

Btw, another way to "speed up" would be to disable automatically saving to .xmp which I read somewhere. Downside, if you are halfway editing and LR crashes, you loose your edits. LR5 isn't as stable LR4 on my system, maybe due to the .xmp saving perhaps? sad.gif
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QUOTE(celciuz @ Jul 12 2013, 07:44 AM)
My PC is assembled last year, all new except GC is old. Using a Corsair TX650M.
Yeap, but its the only few with IPS screen. I actually prefer Windows, but haven't seen one with IPS and good price. I mean if the Windows is going to cost as much as a MBP, might as well buy a MBP?

But at the moment waiting for Haswell, since its around the corner. Just don't like buying Apple items when it has release for sometime since its close to EOL. I always buy them when they release, "last longer".
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I've seen alot of windows based laptop and alot of them doesnt have a screen as nice as mbp. Viewing angle on some of the laptop are just horrible, off center abit cannot see anything already. The one which has usually will cost almost similar to mbp laugh.gif

That is one of the reason i choose mbp over normal windows based laptop tongue.gif
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QUOTE(gnome @ Jul 12 2013, 12:02 PM)
I've seen alot of windows based laptop and alot of them doesnt have a screen as nice as mbp. Viewing angle on some of the laptop are just horrible, off center abit cannot see anything already. The one which has usually will cost almost similar to mbp laugh.gif

That is one of the reason i choose mbp over normal windows based laptop tongue.gif
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Yeap, same as me! But I'm waiting for the Haswell to arrive instead, definitely grabbing a 15" MBP.

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