Well.... y'know. You can always tell the schemes which just want profit. I mean, think about it, bodybuilding products like whey protein tell you on the label that you shouldn't depend on it alone but supplement it with a lot of good food right?
Herbalife, that's another matter.

Good article you posted there about digestion bro.

they would always be supporters and critics for diet programmes or products. i sometimes find it pointless to debate over which is better and which is useless. So criticize all u want about herbalife, it would still be around...it's been around for years in the US, and the product is still surviving.

So how effective is herbalife? i wouldnt say its the most amazing discovery ever, but well, my friends underwent the programme and has already shed kilos. Altho i must say part of the results should not be credited to the product alone, but on the user's determination of staying away from junk food, fast food and soft drinks and eating on time (well, i would say, if u have digged out hundreds of ringgit, u wouldnt want to risk blowing it away with a can of coke or a big mac, rite?). So does it mean one should just decrease his or her food intake? wouldnt tat be MUCH cheaper solution? well, yes, but there's risk of being lethargic and sickly. Herbalife claims to lose weight, but not energy. I do not know exactly how it works, but yes, my friends were still full of energy while they are on the programme.

How bout side effects? i do not know about how true my findings are, but as far as i know, the main criticism of herbalife had just been on its marketing strategy, which is thru MLM. So far, i do not see any reports on anyone suffering any ailments after consuming it. Maybe the company somehow had it covered....maybe since the programme normally only last bout 3-6 months, therefore period of consumption not enough to create any long term effects... no evidence to be sure. I have however heard of some consumers suffering diarrhea and coughs, but symptoms sounded more like allergy reactions...but i'm no expert, so again u be the judge.

well..lastly...will the kilos shed be kept off? i still hadnt seen real life proofs of this since my friends only took the product a few months earlier... so i'm also curious. but i guess, unless u start back on a diet of nasi lemak, burgers, and coke...should not be hard to maintain, rite?

whether is worth the money...i think its up to each individual. i personally would recommend to ppl who doesnt have time to exercise or find that working out did not yield the results u want.... ppl who are really busy to even have meals (sounds unbelievable, but the truth is, nowadays we do have lots of ppl who work / study till there s no time to eat!)...and of course, ppl who can afford it. afterall, it s really pricey. for me? i cant really afford it and am a lazy bum, so i'll just stick back to controlling food intake and light exercise..results? my weight has dropped from 118 lbs to 112 lbs in two years.

Ahhh okay fine~
I'll get my obese fatso mom (well she's 50KG's and she's about 168CM ) to try
if she sheds fat, then i'll tell ya

Totally agree with you, i don't understand why people paid so much for treatment in slimming centres and on supplement to lose weight.
Going to the gym and eating right saves you heaps money and you can even use the spare change to buy new clothes for your new body

This post has been edited by bellatrix: May 26 2006, 08:42 AM

And... you can see a HUGE difference between the physiques of the women who just go to slimming centres and just dieting down compared to women to are regulars at the gym. There's no comparison at all.
The bodies of women who are exercise WIN hands down. The "after" pics of those who go to slimming centres are just... bleh... skinny in an unhealthy way.

Agreed agreed. There's one female instructor of taebo at the gym in wassatbuilding near the Equitorial Hotel...apanama itu...she's like a teeny tiny 5'4" but fit you know. She could do this aikido thing and slam me into the mat.every time! no kidding. even if i am prepared she can still do it.amazing. I am huge next to her. Training and exercise thats the key,not this rubbishy milkshakes and pills stuff

hmmm?
http://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?showtopic=287852

This post has been edited by allets: May 26 2006, 04:59 PM

phew thank god i am not the only one who thinks exercise is way better

Yeap missy. Ya ain't alone, lemme tell ya that. I appreciate a woman who can leg press and squat a respectable weight. They need to get the ridiculous notion outta their heads that lifting weights will build muscle. Women don't have sufficient testosterone for Christ's sake.
This is why a huge percentage of women fail in their weight loss goals. They lose too much healthy weight, too rapidly, which mostly consists of lean muscle mass. Lean muscle mass is responsible for elevation of metabolism, hence greater fat burning.
This is why weight training will always rule over long duration low intensity cardio.
High Intensity Interval Training which is another form of cardio is another matter but i won't delve too deep into that.

I assume you're a fitness buff yourself?

I am a fitness freak i do 2 cardio and 1 strength traning session every week.... i would love to do more but i need to go to class hehe

Yeah, I hear ya Iron Sister . It's hard to balance other obligations with training, but as long as we can manage to slot a few days in a week, we get back as good as we give, which is well worth it in the end. The mirror never lies.
Apart from a few female friends, i don't think i usually encounter a woman who does pretty serious strength training. I would love to hit the weights with you if i had the opportunity (not cardio though, i hate aerobics! Lol!), but unfortunately, i assume you're a KL'ite. I am too, but i'm all the way in Malacca doing my training. I do come back on the weekends but those days are mostly for chilling out and meeting up friends, but if i feel like it, i go to my gym and train.

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This post has been edited by allets: Jun 8 2006, 02:33 PM