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post May 5 2006, 06:05 PM

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QUOTE(amytiang @ Apr 20 2006, 06:06 PM)
All I know is...its quite pricy...if im not mistaken..it cost about RM300++ for 2 weeks time only...

At 1st thought of try it out..but...gee...no way to spend 300++ for 2 weeks n then another 2 weeks 300++ again...I will die b4 I get to slim down
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How come my cousin can offer me at only RM334.10 for 1 month supply?? Well, is RM334.10 still pricey? 1 meal only RM5. Normal price you spent on a meal, no need to spend more, just replace the money you spent on food with the shake and you will be able to lose weight + gain health. Isnt it good?

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post May 5 2006, 06:08 PM

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QUOTE(allets @ May 5 2006, 06:05 PM)
How come my cousin can offer me at only RM334.10 for 1 month supply?? Well, is RM334.10 still pricey? 1 meal only RM5. Normal price you spent on a meal, no need to spend more, just replace the money you spent on food with the shake and you will be able to lose weight + gain health. Isnt it good?
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Yes, there is side effects taking Herbalife product. The side effects is you have to buy new clothes!!! I tried it, already. In a month, my body size is just like 3 years ago, meaning to say that thinner now. My frens and colls all around me are amazed with the effects. Hehe. rclxms.gif
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post May 5 2006, 06:28 PM

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i am just a consumer. i tried it and it really works. so, just share with anyone tat got doubts abt it lor.
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post May 7 2006, 12:15 AM

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QUOTE(pizzaboy @ May 6 2006, 11:25 AM)
Post a picture of yourself before the Herbalife and after taking Herbalife.
I mean, as a lady, you're bound to have quite a number of pictures of yourself.

Remove your face if you're shy, and just show us your figure before.
Then take another photo of your current shape. This should justify your statement.
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Picture, havent take yet, coz i only take Herbalife for 1 month. Not yet reached my ideal weight yet. My program is 3 months program. But I already see my results even it's just 1 month. People all around me already see my results too. How about giving you my colls phone number, you can call them and ask them?

But if u r not satisfied with the prod, you can always return to herbalife, they will fully refund to you.
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post May 7 2006, 01:11 AM

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QUOTE(pizzaboy @ May 7 2006, 12:58 AM)
So you do work with them.
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well, there is no point for me to tell lie. just take a very basic eg, u watched a very nice movie, and u shared it with ur frens, will ur frens asked u..r u sure or not? or r u working wit the director/producer of the movie?
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post May 7 2006, 11:25 AM

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Coll = Colleauges. I am working in a software company. None of them uses this product.
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post May 7 2006, 11:39 AM

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Okie..proof...
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post May 7 2006, 11:15 PM

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QUOTE(pizzaboy @ May 7 2006, 07:12 PM)
You're goin to hate me for saying this, but, add a lil workout to it.

Jog 30 minutes , start with a brisk walk, then progress to a jog, and end with a high intensity 30 second sprint with all your might to the end of the road.

Skipping's good too.

Add some light weightlifting and squatting. (Squats are monsters!!!!!!!!!)
You can lose weight, but doing these will help you look leaner, and more vuloptuous.
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Yes, agree..workout is good. but put ur in the shoe for those really over fat people. would they be still so hardworking to do workout? when they are fat, they already have difficulty in moving around..especially both the thighs are rubbing against each other when walking...
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post May 7 2006, 11:25 PM

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QUOTE(wodenus @ May 7 2006, 03:02 PM)
Wouldn't multivitamins be cheaper ? heck, not eating every day would be cheaper still.

http://www.scientificamerican.com/print_ve...62183414B7F0000

If you eat every other day, you'd still be able to survive. Your body will burn fat before it starves. So if you're fat, just don't eat every day. Eat maybe every other day, you'll be slimmer soon enough. And you'll save money too.
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yes, agree. don't eat also can survive. but our main goal is to lose weight in a safe and effective ways. by straving is not a good way, cause will feel tired and no energy...yes, there is also other alternative of losing weight, just that with the shake to replace ur meal is a convenient and low calorie meal. and of course, people who wanted to lose weight, can choose anyway that they like or free, but will they see the effects in long run? will they be healthy after the successful dieting? if so, why so many ppl still complaint that they failed to diet? why? they will tell u, i starve, but why i am still so fat? or i didnt eat carbo, why still so fat? or i do aerobic everyday, why i stop aerobic, i become double size?
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post May 9 2006, 04:01 PM

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QUOTE(LYFfan @ May 9 2006, 12:57 PM)
If you eat anything which causes a caloric deficit (less than what your body needsto maintain current body mass) OF COURSE you lose weight. If you eat glass noodles like another person suggested for 5 days straight u will also lose weight but glass noodles has almost no nutrients whatsoever.
If u are gonna take milkshake with 150 calories to replace with one meal of course in the end you will lose some weight(most probably water)because your body is taking in less than it needs to maintain your current weight. If milkshake has some protein some vits etc not so bad. But in the end its not a good solution because you would have done nothing to tone your muscles or build more musles mass or your heart health(through aerobic exercise) or increase your metabolic rate which helps regulate your weight gain/loss and keep u in good general health. In summary, supplementary diet milkshakes are not good for your health.
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Hmm, are you a doctor? shakehead.gif Please don't make any assumptions when you dont understand about Herbalife products. If it cant tone the muscle, ppl slimming down using meal replacement, then i guess there will be a lot a lot of skin dangling around...but how come no leh?? have you tried the product urself and u encounter tat? pls advise.
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post May 9 2006, 05:27 PM

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Haha! y become fat in the first place??
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post May 10 2006, 10:18 AM

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QUOTE(LYFfan @ May 10 2006, 09:43 AM)
Blame my gf. Damn good cook man. tongue.gif

Also becoz of my working schedule.Travel, eat in hotel,work thru nite,no sleep come back from work sleep thru weekend. But all that is over,old man already cannot tahan that kinda lifestyle.

Now back to my college days weight with a good healthy way of life. I think i look pretty good for my age *ahem*
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rclxms.gif wow..good good...when someone becomes thinner/slim down, he/she will automatically looks younger.
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post May 10 2006, 03:02 PM

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[quote=Lord_Ashe,May 10 2006, 02:22 PM]
This is something that's always used by people who push snake oil medicines. They assume that skeptics have to provide the proof, when THEY're the ones who actually have to provide it. One of the most respected scientists in the world, Carl Sagan, said it this way:

Extraordinary claims require extraordinary proof.

Therefore, if you claim Herbalife tones muscles, where's the proof? Submit a sample to a respected, independent body (NOT one sponsored by Herbalife) for testing and show us the results. Simple as that.

[quote=Lord_Ashe,May 10 2006, 02:22 PM]
Muscle tone and weight loss are two entirely different things. Ask ANY doctor (respectable ones) in the world and he'll tell you NO product helps you tone muscles besides exercise. Of course you won't see loose skin - the human body is very dynamic, and the fluid you lose through Herbalife is lost gradually. Compare to a person who does liposuction and you'll see A LOT of skin.

So please, do a little scientific research before you push a product.
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Scientific Commitment

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As a leader in the wellness industry, Herbalife has proudly established two scientific bodies: the Medical Advisory Board and the Scientific Advisory Board. Together, these teams, comprised of distinguished doctors, award-winning scientists and renowned wellness experts, help advance the field of nutritional science, ensure Herbalife products are high quality and educate customers worldwide on every aspect of good health.

Medical Advisory Board
Herbalife's Medical Advisory Board (MAB) is chaired by David Heber, M.D. and includes award-winning doctors who guide product research and development, focusing on the quality and benefits of our products.

Scientific Advisory Board
Herbalife has its own Scientific Advisory Board (SAB) committed to advancing the field of nutritional science.

The Mark Hughes Cellular & Molecular Nutrition Laboratory
As a wellness pioneer, Herbalife has donated funds to establish a research laboratory at the Center for Human Nutrition at UCLA.*

*UCLA, or the University of California, Los Angeles, is one of the most prestigious universities in the world. It boasts five faculty recipients of Nobel Prizes and nine National Medals of Science.
The Nobel Prize is a registered trademark of the Nobel Foundation.

http://www.herbalife.com/hl/templates/temp...cCommitment.jsp
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post May 10 2006, 03:56 PM

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http://herbalife.sitestream.com/Testimonia...s=&media=725676
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post May 11 2006, 09:32 AM

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RM300 plus is not for every month for the rest of ur life. It is just helping you to get to the ideal weight and size. after tat. u may totally stop.
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post May 12 2006, 05:59 PM

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http://nutriweb.org.my/article.php?sid=19

American Heart Association Comments On High Protein Diet As A Strategy For Weight Reduction
Date: Friday, January 11 @ 15:27:11 MYT

You may have heard of some groups promoting high protein diet as a "new" strategy for successful weight loss. Protein content of some of such diets can go up to 30-60% of total energy. Carbohydrate content in such diets is reduced to as low as 5%. Fat energy goes up to as much as 30-60%.They are also recommended as a better "alternative" to the conventional carbohydrate-based diet.

Your patients and subjects must have asked you at some point about such diets. Please do not be misled by promotions of such high protein diets. Please stay with the recommendations of the Ministry of Health and endorsed by the Nutrition Society of Malaysa of the food guide pyramid that you are already familiar with. Almost all health authorities in the world, the WHO and FAO are following the same guidelines.

Below is the abstract of a recent article from the America Heart Association, commenting on this high protein diet. This article appreared in the journal Circulation 104(15): 1869-1874, 2001 and is an official statement from the AHA Science Advisory and Coordinating Committee of June 2001. You can read the full article in: http://circ.ahajournals.org/cgi/content/abstract/104/15/1869

High-protein diets have recently been proposed as a "new" strategy for successful weight loss. However, variations of these diets have been popular since the 1960s. High-protein diets typically offer wide latitude in protein food choices, are restrictive in other food choices (mainly carbohydrates), and provide structured eating plans. They also often promote misconceptions about carbohydrates, insulin resistance, ketosis, and fat burning as mechanisms of action for weight loss. Although these diets may not be harmful for most healthy people for a short period of time, there are no long-term scientific studies to support their overall efficacy and safety. These diets are generally associated with higher intakes of total fat, saturated fat, and cholesterol because the protein is provided mainly by animal sources. In high-protein diets, weight loss is initially high due to fluid loss related to reduced carbohydrate intake, overall caloric restriction, and ketosis-induced appetite suppression. Beneficial effects on blood lipids and insulin resistance are due to the weight loss, not to the change in caloric composition. Promoters of high-protein diets promise successful results by encouraging high-protein food choices that are usually restricted in other diets, thus providing initial palatability, an attractive alternative to other weight-reduction diets that have not worked for a variety of reasons for most individuals. High-protein diets are not recommended because they restrict healthful foods that provide essential nutrients and do not provide the variety of foods needed to adequately meet nutritional needs. Individuals who follow these diets are therefore at risk for compromised vitamin and mineral intake, as well as potential cardiac, renal, bone, and liver abnormalities overall.
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post May 13 2006, 04:20 PM

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http://www.amazon.co.uk/exec/obi ... 026-3859250-9858020
Change your shape for life-with a new breakthrough personalised protein prescription

Dr. Heber maintains that everyone is born with a particular shape - and this shape makes a huge difference in how you should approach weight loss. He teaches the difference between the shape you can change and helps you find the personal protein prescription to best achieve your goals. You can jump start your plan with the Empowering Shake -the best way to make sure you meet your protein needs and control hunger-and then you'll build your own ideal diet.
David Herber, M.D.,Ph.D Director, UCLA Centre for Human Nutrition

TEN REASONS FOR THE BEST DIET RESULTS - GUARANTEED!
Here are the 10 reasons for our success:

The top selling book 'The LA Shape Diet' written by the Director of the UCLA Centre of Human Nutrition, Dr David Heber explains the science of diet success. The book is based on years of research & diet counselling at the centre. This is his definitive cutting edge diet programme (you can buy the book on Amazon).

For best results your 'DIET MUST BE PERSONALISED' to your individual body shape. Everyone's body shape is different. One size does not fit all. Your body shape is more important than your weight. We help you be the best shape you can be! This is our challenge -if you've been hungry on diets & put the weight back on - this is for you!

'PROTEIN' is the key. Most people don't eat enough protein. This means your blood sugar is low making you feel tired & grumpy. Protein controls hunger. We match the protein in your body with your diet. You don't feel hungry or tired. You feel great! A protein only diet delivers immediate weight loss BUT for long term success AS WELL - you MUST have 'good carbohydrates' to be fit & healthy. We help you get an immediate result AND safe long term weight off too! Measuring fat is not important. It is no help in designing the perfect diet for you. We calculate your 'lean body mass' to tell us how much protein your unique body shape needs. Upper body weight is most dangerous. Lower body weight is what makes a woman female & sexy. This is often hard to shift because women evolved to keep weight on for child rearing. We can now help you to be the best shape you can be! Typically women need around 100g protein a day Men 150g. Basically your body needs 1g protein per 1 pound of lean body mass (i.e. not fat).

'WHY OUR PROGRAMME IS UNIQUELY SUCCESSFUL'. You don't feel hungry on our diet because our unique Formula 1 & Protein Supplement Powder has the best possible blend of soy & whey protein to safely lose weight immediately AND over a prolonged period by controlling your hunger. You don't feel hungry for 2 -3 hours after taking this shake. To lose weight, replace two meals a day with our delicious & versatile shakes (we'll send you an 'e-Book' of exciting recipes). It combines the perfect balance of good carbohydrates, 'heart-healthy' fibre & protein.
The third meal can be of your choice - just learn to cut back a little.

Formula two has 14 vitamins, minerals and herbs uniquely designed to complement and balance with the shake. 'ALL THE NUTRITION THE BODY NEEDS' - unlike deprivation diets where the body tries to cope without the nutrition you have cut out - so it piles the weight back on when you stop.

Plus we have 'UNIQUE TARGETED PRODUCTS' including delicious protein bars & Theromojetic tea to hydrate, release energy, give stamina & focus.

'THE FACTS'. Our meal replacement diet has been scientifically proven, with many testimonials, to keep weight off. In long term STUDIES in Germany & USA - monitored over five years and more. The USA National Registry of Dieters who have kept weight off long term includes many of our product users.

'ALL HERBALIFE PRODUCTS ARE NATURALLY DERIVED' - we have Olympic athletes and top sportspeople training on our products.

In addition - because we are replacing meals & stopping your body craving unhealthy snacks - you don't feel hungry - so you can 'SAVE MONEY' too!

'NO RISK - WE HAVE A 30 DAY NO-QUIBBLE MONEY BACK GUARANTEE' of success
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post May 15 2006, 09:54 AM

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Aurora, agree with the Exercise...

Pizzaboy, u sure?

darklight79, yes, agree gym can lose weight too...nowadays..ppl are so lazy..herbalife product is just helping those lazy people to lose weight in an easy, convenient, safe and effective way.. icon_rolleyes.gif
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post May 26 2006, 04:57 PM

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QUOTE(player83 @ May 13 2006, 01:33 AM)
i'll try to answer some question but pls do your own research.

herbalife protein powder contains whey protein concentrate and soy protein isolate which basically means filtered protein which contains no fat, water and other minerals. means it is pure protein which has 100% retention on muscle.

muscle in this case would be prevented from wasting away when dieting.

it is not that herbalife has been the only source of info. i get these info from various bodybuilding website.

as for nutrient that protein diet lacks, herbalife do have a nutrient shake that you mix it with protein. yes u can check the label.

bare in mind the article above me is talking about Atkins diet where the protein is not whey and soy protein concentrated and isolate which contains no fat at all.

yes i am a herbalife member but i do my homework. i cant sell something i don't believe in so if u have new info do let me know

but do your homework too before u say anything because i'm don't have time to entertain super skeptic like u simply because there's lots of people out there who's not too paranoid.
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post Jun 6 2006, 10:23 AM

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Accumulate 500 points within 2 months starting June. Promotion ends in Sept. After accumulating 500 points, you are entitled for 50% discounts on all products for the rest of ur LIFE!!!!

Formula 1 = 23.95 points
Formula 3 = 17.75 points
Tea Mix 50g = 19.95 points
Tea Mix 100g = 34.95 points

Terms and condition: Must sign up as member to enjoy this benefits. Membership fee = RM88.00

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