btw, what is different between UM BoJ and UOL LLB??

BoJ is more tailored to M'sian system while UoL is more to the British's Common Law.

Check out the syllabus and compare.

subrok007


Bach of Juris is an external programme offered by UM. (2 years fast track) 50% cheaper than UoL law degree.

LLB (Hons) is from University of Lond. 3 years.

In order to practice with Bachelor of Juris you gotta sit for CLP.

so both (UoL and BoJ) actually are same only different in fee structure.. btw how bout course syllabus? i been searching in net about syllabus but none of the result appear.

and BoJ offered in Part Time as well? I heard what our forumer said BoJ fee exclusive tutor class only include lectures class only.. am i rite?

UoL llb is based on English legal system. BoJ is Malaysian Legal system.

I am not well aware of BoJ course structure. However, if you are considering law degree with UoL, you must take up 12 subjects. This is only pertinent if you're planning to do clp. If you are thinking about doing bptc, then it differs slightly.
Its entirely exam based. You study for one whole semester and then sit for exams in May/June (once a year).

No coursework. No presentation. No attendance will be taken into account if you do not attend you tuition classes.

BoJ is an external programme offered by UM which is almost similar to their law degree. Just that you will be paying for their tuition fees to attend classes. Other than that, I am not sure about their coursework, presentation and etc.

Hope this helps.

This post has been edited by qazhang: Feb 9 2015, 12:43 PM

Hey Guys, i'm currently a law student at final year in UK and planning for BPTC but i'm not sure which inns of court should i join. Any guidance or free advice? All i know is that mostly Malaysians will end up in Lincoln Inn but i need to know more aside from Malaysian's preference. Any other benefits of joining any particular inns? OR would it be sensible to join Lincoln Inn for future social network? Currently, i'm not bias against any inns but i'm considering Middle Temple as well since some of my friends joined there as well. (Note:I do not know any information about Gray's inn and Inner Temple.)

Its difficult to get into Inner temple... its only for elite yo

how about Lincoln's Inn and Middle Temple? i currently left out the other 2 just for these 2. Any idea for the difference between those 2 inns?

Can confirm that the above info is outdated. Top firms in KL now pay at around RM3000 (even 3500 upon confirmation of retention).

By top firms I do mean the biggest firms though (think Shearn, Zico). Some mid-sized elite firms do pay as well or even better than top firms (think Wong or Rahmat Lim).

Hate to sound like a know-it-all, but I think the BPTC is no longer recognised as a Professional qualification in most commonwealth countries? Malaysia and one or two other commonwealth countries seem to be the exception rather than the rule. Most of the non-British doing the BPTC are Malaysians.

E.g. In Canada,HK, Aus, NZ, the BPTC doesn't help at all (prelim understanding, please correct me if I am wrong). In Singapore it exempts you from only Part A of the Bar Exam.

Hey All

I need some advise.

I have ICSA and had been working for about 18 years in the private sector as a HR practitioner and more recently, had been specialising in Industrial Relations as my area of focus. As my post-retirement plan, I intend to practice as an IR Lawyer and towards that end, I have been researching study options i.e. either LLB (UOL) or Bach Jurisprudence from UM. I know both require CLP and pupillage after graduating for which I am willing to slog it out.

My concern is that I am now 42 and I don't intend to undergo pupillage and be called to the Bar too early i.e. before I retire from full time employment at 60.

Am I be given a time limit to undergo pupillage after graduating failing which my degree (either LLB of BOJ) may be deemed invalid for the purpose of being called to the Bar?

Cause if that is the case, I should defer my studies until I'm older say around 55 years of age.

Another pertinent question would be will there be any law firm that will be willing to entertain my application for pupillage at age 60?

Thanks everyone in advanced.

From what I can read, you have yet to start your studies so that's good for now. Up till now, since nothing has been changed, it is still 6 years of time limit from the date you start your studies to your graduation. That's it.

Also, I have seen people above 55+ that are still doing their degrees so basically there should no worries for you there yet.

Also, do take note,we won't know what will change over the years so... if you are not planning to start so early, the current news don't really help much no?

Most chambies now are around 23~30.

It's pretty hard to find an established law firm that would accept someone of your age if we are to be frank.

But there are always exemptions to such rules.

This post has been edited by chiahau: Mar 13 2015, 09:20 AM

It's really hard to get into good firms unless you're bringing in large clients or good business with you into the firm.

**Taking age into consideration.

This post has been edited by qazhang: Mar 13 2015, 12:10 PM

Or your father is somebody

But on a serious note, you have a very good point there.

UM Bachelor of Jurisprudence 2015/2016 Session is open!

Closing date of application is 15 May 2015




Attached thumbnail(s)

This.

It's a different game now that you're in your later years of your career. For regular chambies, we're fresh grads and it's expected that we don't have business contacts, and there's time to slowly shape us into lawyers with our own books of business. For people taking the route you're thinking of taking, you have to possess your own book of business and/or a niche expertise of your previous field which would give you an edge over other lawyers for you to be valuable to large established firms.

Can I ask some stuff regarding Foundation
I read in many threads that if you took a Foundation in Arts, you aren't eligible to take CLP? And you can only study up till LLB? Or did I read it wrong?


My cousin, who just barely managed to finish her foundation in arts in UTAR, wants to be a lawyer. I'm kinda worried for her, she really wants to study law, but she only has a foundation in arts, no STPM/A-Levels/Matrikulasi/etc.

Does she have to take STPM or A-Levels again if she really intends on being a lawyer? Is there really no other route?
It's really going to be a waste of time if she needs to take it again.

P.s: She took a Foundation in Arts in the heat of the moment, then she realized she was terrible in Business Maths, so she's thinking of switching over to Law.

Let me answer that for you.

Foundations are not allowed to take CLP.

Meaning that your LLB would be an expensive piece of paper that does not grant you a "PC"

If she's serious to be a lawyer, ask her to quickly change her foundation to a diploma at least.

That statement basically sums up what I'm worried about.
She actually already finished her foundation studies... So I don't think she can "change" her foundation into a diploma.

Someone told my cousin that she could take another exam of some sort that allowed you to practise in all commonwealth countries after her LLB. I don't know how true this statement is, can anyone enlighten me about this so called exam?


I'm also kind of curious why Foundations aren't eligible to take CLP...