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 Prospective Law Students Gateway V2, A basic guide to become a lawyer

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Vincy8925
post Apr 10 2015, 12:09 AM

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Anybody mind to share their working experiences here? What are the pros and cons to work in a small/medium/large firm, which is more advisable and why?
BravoZeroTwo
post Apr 10 2015, 02:40 PM

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QUOTE(Vincy8925 @ Apr 10 2015, 01:09 AM)
Anybody mind to share their working experiences here? What are the pros and cons to work in a small/medium/large firm, which is more advisable and why?
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Mind sharing your own experience here ? Are you going to chamber at this moment ?
shienchong0910
post Apr 10 2015, 06:22 PM

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Actually I am still deciding between lawyer and doctor.Many ppl say a successful lawyer is usually the one who always plays nasty tricks. What is the future of law in Malaysia? Confused....
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post Apr 11 2015, 07:09 AM

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QUOTE(shienchong0910 @ Apr 10 2015, 07:22 PM)
Actually I am still deciding between lawyer and doctor.Many ppl say a successful lawyer is usually the one who always plays nasty tricks. What is the future of law in Malaysia? Confused....
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I think this is a sweeping statement across the board. They are good and genuine lawyers who are driven by their professional ethics and conscience. Some who want to make a difference in a person's life.
Vincy8925
post Apr 11 2015, 09:43 AM

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QUOTE(BravoZeroTwo @ Apr 10 2015, 02:40 PM)
Mind sharing your own experience here ? Are you going to chamber at this moment ?
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I'm a year 2 law student. Will be transferring to Cardiff this September. I've applied for Shearn for attachment before my transfer to see how it feels to work in large firms. Still haven't receive their calls yet. I might try applying to medium sized firms like Thomas Philips and Albar.

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chiahau
post Apr 11 2015, 12:45 PM

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QUOTE(shienchong0910 @ Apr 10 2015, 06:22 PM)
Actually I am still deciding between lawyer and doctor.Many ppl say a successful lawyer is usually the one who always plays nasty tricks. What is the future of law in Malaysia? Confused....
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Both also no future.

Lawyers are saturated, plenty of bad ones out there and decent ones are always too expensive or poached by large firms already.

Doctors, even worse. There's like a 6 months waiting list now to get a placement for houseman-ship.

By the time you graduate, maybe 1 year wait already.

If you want to make money, this is not the right field.

So think properly what's your interest is before signing up.

QUOTE(Vincy8925 @ Apr 11 2015, 09:43 AM)
I'm a year 2 law student. Will be transferring to Cardiff this September. I've applied for Shearn for attachment before my transfer to see how it feels to work in large firms. Still haven't receive their calls yet. I might try applying to medium sized firms like Thomas Philips and Albar.
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Chambering gonna suck.

Let's face it. Large firms are taking in large amount of people to work for them.

If you are good, you will stand out. If you are not, you'll probably disappear in the midst of all the chambie students.

Just an advise from a senior lawyer I know coming from one of the big firms in M'sia, CB students are out to get one another just to get on top. Always watch your back. It's wild wild west in such firms when you are chambering. sweat.gif

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post Apr 11 2015, 03:11 PM

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QUOTE(chiahau @ Apr 11 2015, 01:45 PM)
Both also no future.

Lawyers are saturated, plenty of bad ones out there and decent ones are always too expensive or poached by large firms already.

Doctors, even worse. There's like a 6 months waiting list now to get a placement for houseman-ship.

By the time you graduate, maybe 1 year wait already.

If you want to make money, this is not the right field.

So think properly what's your interest is before signing up.
Chambering gonna suck.

Let's face it. Large firms are taking in large amount of people to work for them.

If you are good, you will stand out. If you are not, you'll probably disappear in the midst of all the chambie students.

Just an advise from a senior lawyer I know coming from one of the big firms in M'sia, CB students are out to get one another just to get on top. Always watch your back. It's wild wild west in such firms when you are chambering.  sweat.gif
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Bro,
How big the firm is your friend working with now ?
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post Apr 11 2015, 03:12 PM

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QUOTE(Vincy8925 @ Apr 11 2015, 10:43 AM)
I'm a year 2 law student. Will be transferring to Cardiff this September. I've applied for Shearn for attachment before my transfer to see how it feels to work in large firms. Still haven't receive their calls yet. I might try applying to medium sized firms like Thomas Philips and Albar.
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All the best, bro.
chiahau
post Apr 11 2015, 06:01 PM

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QUOTE(BravoZeroTwo @ Apr 11 2015, 03:11 PM)
Bro,
How big the firm is your friend working with now ?
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They quit with few of their friends and have their own setup now.


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post Apr 15 2015, 11:39 AM

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QUOTE(chiahau @ Apr 11 2015, 12:45 PM)
Both also no future.

Lawyers are saturated, plenty of bad ones out there and decent ones are always too expensive or poached by large firms already.

Doctors, even worse. There's like a 6 months waiting list now to get a placement for houseman-ship.

By the time you graduate, maybe 1 year wait already.

If you want to make money, this is not the right field.

So think properly what's your interest is before signing up.
Chambering gonna suck.

Let's face it. Large firms are taking in large amount of people to work for them.

If you are good, you will stand out. If you are not, you'll probably disappear in the midst of all the chambie students.

Just an advise from a senior lawyer I know coming from one of the big firms in M'sia, CB students are out to get one another just to get on top. Always watch your back. It's wild wild west in such firms when you are chambering.  sweat.gif
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If that what should be? AIZZZZZ
chiahau
post Apr 15 2015, 11:53 AM

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QUOTE(shienchong0910 @ Apr 15 2015, 11:39 AM)
If that what should be? AIZZZZZ
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If you can be easily discouraged by my words, law might not be a suitable pathway for you....
Vincy8925
post Apr 15 2015, 11:38 PM

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QUOTE(chiahau @ Apr 15 2015, 11:53 AM)
If you can be easily discouraged by my words, law might not be a suitable pathway for you.
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Ditto rclxms.gif
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post Apr 17 2015, 05:55 PM

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QUOTE(chiahau @ Apr 15 2015, 11:53 AM)
If you can be easily discouraged by my words, law might not be a suitable pathway for you....
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Aizzzz.maybe you are right.
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post Apr 22 2015, 11:08 PM

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Guys, any tips for studying law?
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post Apr 22 2015, 11:09 PM

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QUOTE(jonmitch @ Apr 22 2015, 11:08 PM)
Guys, any tips for studying law?
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Wrong question. brows.gif
chiahau
post Apr 23 2015, 08:26 AM

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QUOTE(qazhang @ Apr 22 2015, 11:09 PM)
Wrong question.  brows.gif
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The right question should be, any tips to dodge the law? whistling.gif


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post Apr 23 2015, 10:34 AM

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QUOTE(chiahau @ Apr 23 2015, 08:26 AM)
The right question should be, any tips to dodge the law?  whistling.gif
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laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif so fast
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post Apr 29 2015, 12:21 AM

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I have a question to address you guys who have had experience dealing in the legal field, while it is obvious that Malay is important as it is the national language, how important is Mandarin? Will there be a lot of clients who prefer conversing in Mandarin rather than English? I believe that I have the fluency in both Malay and English but am a little worried on my shaky Mandarin and Cantonese and if it would affect my marketability to work in top firms. Still doing my year 1 of LLB btw, entering year 2 this Sept. Thanks.
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QUOTE(KuzumiTaiga @ Apr 29 2015, 12:21 AM)
I have a question to address you guys who have had experience dealing in the legal field, while it is obvious that Malay is important as it is the national language, how important is Mandarin? Will there be a lot of clients who prefer conversing in Mandarin rather than English? I believe that I have the fluency in both Malay and English but am a little worried on my shaky Mandarin and Cantonese and if it would affect my marketability to work in top firms. Still doing my year 1 of LLB btw, entering year 2 this Sept. Thanks.
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For interpersonal communication skills, some clients are typical chinaman and will only speak Mandarin/Cantonese.

As for bigger companies, the standard language to converse would be in English.

So, having good grasp of Mandarin/Cantonese is an advantage, but not an absolute.

Just pretend to be dumb a little and let the client dictate the conversations.

From there, you interpret and slowly explain back what's required.
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post May 1 2015, 12:05 AM

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QUOTE(KuzumiTaiga @ Apr 29 2015, 12:21 AM)
I have a question to address you guys who have had experience dealing in the legal field, while it is obvious that Malay is important as it is the national language, how important is Mandarin? Will there be a lot of clients who prefer conversing in Mandarin rather than English? I believe that I have the fluency in both Malay and English but am a little worried on my shaky Mandarin and Cantonese and if it would affect my marketability to work in top firms. Still doing my year 1 of LLB btw, entering year 2 this Sept. Thanks.
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Mastery over the language is an added advantage but not a MUST.

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