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Frequently Asked Question on what kind of bikes to get:

1) Aluminum bike - 10 speed Tiagra (maybe mixed Tiagra - Sora), priced around RM3k up- this would be the absolute lowest point i would say to start from... any lower and you will land outside of 10speed equipment and any upgrades will certainly be more than the difference you saved not buying this bike.. shimano launched tiagra with 10speed beginning of this year making this a considerable choice... also, this grade of bike will have a more common grade of cockpit (handlebar, stem, seat post, saddle) and cheaper wheels

2) Aluminum bike - 10 speed 105 (maybe mixed 105 - Tiagra), priced around RM3.8k up- most likely the same frame above with a different paint livery, this would be an entry level into shimano's definition of competition components... tiagra would be what they called the top tier among the enthusiast group.. although both 10 speed... but materials and feel... tiagra has a shift indicator while the 105 does not hence giving you a pro feel (what the bike shop will tell you)...mostly.. tiagra has a bit more plasticky bits than 105... some slightly more expensive models might even start offering slightly better wheels like mavic aksiums along with better slightly better graded cockpit...

- i would not try and go past 105 on a aluminum bike... the best brands like specialized or bmc will be selling an aluminum bike equipped with 105 for a little over RM5k... going 1 notch up into ultegra will lead you to start looking into higher end bikes as those bikes will surely creep past RM6k and most likely a mismatch between frame and component grades... you will be practically trying to pair a set of RAYS CE28N onto a Perodua Myvi if you get what i mean in car terms...

3) Carbon bike - 10 speed 105 (possibly not full 105), priced around RM7k up- this would be a foray into performance bicycles... although a carbon frame... but this are not the best carbon has to offer for 2 reasons... carbon cloth grade (less modulus, less weave, lower grade binding agents) and the man power / time needed (less complex layup schedules) to layup the carbon layers into producing a frame... basically a mass produced frame with the lowest production cost possible... not all that bad... it should still be on par if not better with the best of the aluminum frames in terms of stiffness.. basically, component should be similar or slightly better than the aluminum 105 bike depending on the price you pay...

- here i would name one which shocked me quite a bit recently... saw this Look 566...this http://www.lookcycle.com/en/int/route/velo...-bike-2013.html , but i guess a previous year model...... carbon frame with Mavic Aksium wheels... not a complete 105 with some downgraded cranks and calipers... a carbon frame with comfort geometry retailing for RM7.1k if my memory serves me right...

- price is slightly high for some people... but if you look at it...maybe under 30% more if you are looking at a Apex or 105 equipped Specialize Allez

4) free for all - death - bankruptcy - you name it...
- step into this and there will be no return...

Beside on the modern roadbike, there's also classic roadbike that worth to consider, if you're classic roadbike lover.

at best, this is considered a classic remake...


with columbus tubing at least... if there is any chance that anyone still makes a bike with reynolds 531 tubing, even better...

it has to be small round tubes and lugged in order to qualify as classic...



"i guess that is the definition." by YB Butthead.


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This post has been edited by vin_ann: Jun 6 2013, 10:47 AM

that sounds gay... 1st post already mau kena bantai...

ohhhh F@K....i suddenly realizes what all this means...

NO NEW PURCHASES OR UPGRADES FROM NOW ON!!!


This post has been edited by butthead: Apr 23 2013, 10:22 AM

Top 10 posters of last thread..

miaopurr 498
mrjgx 206
lilredridinghood 203
hianboy 171
vin_ann 78
Snowguy2068 57
yolk 47
Mac Wai 45
lot101 32
SYAMiLLiON 27

top 10 posters of v5...
miao is the biggest c0ck

vin_ann, you should be ashamed of yourself you got whooped even by the new kid who has yet to own a bike yet and you are the master of this thread

HO YEAH IM NUMBER 4!!!




by the way... y ur not in da list?

This post has been edited by hianboy: Apr 23 2013, 10:30 AM

reporting in

somehow... i am quite superstitious nowadays...

i want number 8...

can i get the permission to paste some mila kunis stuff on page 1???

This post has been edited by butthead: Apr 23 2013, 10:37 AM

9... i'm number 9.

100km ultra trail completed. ranked 81. not bad huh.

now have to get my legs on the pedal now.....

you are very "九"...

ranked 81 out of 82 runners??? 81 alone doesn't make sense la... tell la got how many runners...

i thought you always had your legs on the rpm bikes and your eyes on the 2 cheeks in front of you??

This post has been edited by butthead: Apr 23 2013, 10:43 AM

eh, where's ur name?

ehrr.. the number don't make sense... it makes it look like i have too much free time in hand...

i knew it

His post is...

i haven't change to super saiyan 2 yet...

This post has been edited by butthead: Apr 23 2013, 11:15 AM

mavic rsys slr do tempt me with it's all black colors which suits my bike..but that would be a climbing wheels, just like my FR0. Choices are limited! but that surely will reduce some grams.


FR0 dark label but still not dark enough...i hate the shining chrome on my bike, it looks like a sore thumb sticking out from the stealthy look ..the same goes to the braze on clamp which is in silver! I tried to look for the black one from Campy at Godzilla but they are run out of stock

i dont have the weight scale yet at the moment but at most with my guesstimation i can reduce:

FRO - Rsys SLR = 135 grams ------ wth, i might skip this option.
Carbon cages = 40grams
carbon seatpost = 110 grams
carbon handlebar = 100 grams
seat = 104 grams
skewers = ~80 grams

total = 569 grams

7.9kg - 569g = 7.3kg

So to make it sub 7kg I have to further do this things..

change pedals = 130grams
change to lighter groupsets = maybe 300-400grams?? Im not sure about this



This post has been edited by mrjgx: Apr 23 2013, 11:18 AM

Who posted in: Cycling V5 aka 8888 CNY HUAT ah!
Poster Posts
butthead 1028
miaopurr 498
mrjgx 206
lilredridinghood 203
hianboy 171
vin_ann 78
Snowguy2068 57
yolk 47
Mac Wai 45
lot101 32

holy hell crap king.. hail to YB Butthead...
if you're a candidates in the coming GE, i will vote you.

i suggest you aerolite pedals... only 36 grams each.. even speedplay nanogram zero's will lose out to it...
http://www.aerolitepedals.com/index.php?op...id=50&Itemid=58

as for brakes, eebrakes is sub 200 grams... shaves about 30 grams off the new red aerolink...
http://www.eecycleworks.com/eebrake.html

unfortunately, THM did not make any scapula forks with 1 3/8 lower tapered steerers before... but no fear, money solves this problem.. plant in 20k euros and i believe you get your one off 1 1/8 upper, 1 3/8 lower THM Scapula fork....might shave easily 50 grams off as all THM Scapula is sub 300 gram....
http://www.thm-carbones.de/scapula-90.html

full THM cockpit... i dunno how much that will save... lazy to speculate at this point...
http://www.thm-carbones.de

some Enve 1.25 laced to tune hubs...saves 300 grams maybe...

and sub 7K would be no problem...

if i am in GE... there will be many corruption... and i don't mean corruption of the g-men... corruption of the citizens...

i won't be called the PM... i will be referred to the as the PMC... Prime Minister of C0ckingsham...

he doesn't want the fuss of changing brake pads for alu/carbon rims

No 21. Today will drop by Unker's BS, to get my puncture fixed and might as well weigh my bike, i guess it should be close to 7.9kg. And get a HRM too.

This post has been edited by Mac Wai: Apr 23 2013, 12:01 PM

Unker's Bull$hit? dafuq?

Just as I though so.. I am leading you on. Spidey sense!

Which Polar Series leh.. Wristwatch type.

This post has been edited by Mac Wai: Apr 23 2013, 12:04 PM

this http://www.polar.com/en/products/get_activ...ultisport/RS100

anyway, not sure about unker's aftersales support for polar stuff. i got mine from athlete's circle, official dealer of polar. pricewise, maybe unker's cheaper. not sure

wat did i do?

haiyah... you can't have your cake and still eat it lar...

tell that to de fella

wahhhh already v6 ... reporting in as well

wat do you ride again???

why does all the bikes have such low weight nowadays??? are you guys manipulating the numbers or the scale is screwed up...

is bullshit now banned as well?

i would tell him... the problem is my words go in his left ear and straight away shoots out his right ear...

i need someone with more authority to bang the theory into his mind... maybe i will find

and inceptionalize him...

thanks to our number 1 c0cker miao...so fast we reach perdana v6...

we are still 3 pistons short of the badminton thread...

This post has been edited by butthead: Apr 23 2013, 12:32 PM

Polar Bear???


This post has been edited by butthead: Apr 23 2013, 12:24 PM

just popped into my mind...

since it's the GE season... i know what i did... you can accuse me of fixing the poll... hahahha

Have recently gone for a bike fit and must say it was worth every penny. Flexibility and past injuries (if any), feet (pronation) etc were recorded. Little did I know that I had the saddle at the wrong height all along and this was after a basic fit at the bike shop. The seat was raised almost 15-20mm !! Riding in the drops was a lot more comfortable compared to before and I could sustain higher rpm for a much longer period. Previously I could only do a short burst of 110-120 rpm but now can maintain it for a few minutes.

Also got to test a selle smp saddle and must say my ass loved it but my wallet didn't so it was given a miss

A little late but sorry Hian Boy

nah... is ok~

i see chewbacca

taken over by



and it got out of hand...

then got replaced by this

hahah that's Chris; a cyclist, coach and frame designer Chris Steffanoni

Do you mean, you are using the RS100 already? I though you will going to choose between the cateye cyclocomputer and the Polar wristwatch when your Gamin Kaput!

i meant, if u were going to get a basic wristwatch type, then get that polar rs100.

I've been keeping up my regular cycling around DPC, up to around 850km so far

Still not getting used to cycling in the afternoon heat though (only time I'm free during weekdays to cycle!)

Will revert back what I got, later today. thanks!

This post has been edited by Mac Wai: Apr 23 2013, 01:24 PM

that is so weird...

sounds like gwen steffani's cousin...

"basic" is the taboo word...

tats not bad... i only managed to knock up less than 3.5k the whole of last year... depressing when some of the previous years were triple those numbers...

i believe you will buy something we totally don't expect...

Never heard of before the brands butthead suggested but im sure it's going to make my wallet lighter!

Enve looks nice but not available in the lbs...

tell me this wheels don't look sweet...



when you see it's white spokes spinning... your head will go spinning...

woah. CK hubs, dt aerolite

miao knows his shit

KL been raining everyday? how to cycle la...

i was having good time in Philippines...

define "good time"...

or leave it to our imaginations...

True true, you can read my mind, easy peasy! What if no stock, right? Improvise ma!

Nearest, Singapura can get, set you back RM 8K plus only! Now tell me, how can your head don't go spinning? Oh! I forgot, in USD only 3K ma.. No worries!

This post has been edited by Mac Wai: Apr 23 2013, 04:57 PM

Bros,

Can let me know where to get cheapest Sidi or DMT cycling shoes in KL.
My Shimano looks fugly after long use hehehe.

u can try jami bike shop

i rather buy bontrager race xxx lite or the new xx road...

i'd rather buy a custom made HED C2 laced with sapim cxray spokes and dt240 hubs

i think we are going to be stuck with our fulcrums and mavic ksyrium elites...

Wait until u see Lightweight with the white spokes..forgot la the model.

What do u guys think about Vision wheels? Around rm4500 only, the aero wheels

I was planning to get 404fc as the aero wheels for flat route and my FR0 for climbing but haveto change brakepads everytime and adjust the angle..maybe sell mu FR0 and get a do-it-all wheelset..the 303FC or 202FC?

This post has been edited by mrjgx: Apr 23 2013, 05:31 PM

lightweight? i'd still choose the HED C2

Sure boh? If money no problem- Milenstein lightweight may just convert you.
All pro are on carbon right?

This post has been edited by Mac Wai: Apr 23 2013, 05:41 PM

if money no problem, i'd pay extra for shipping fee, customs tax, for a set of custom built HED C2 from wheelbuilder.com, if they have clincher version. if not, i might choose something else from them, or from other builders.

that is the meilenstein obermeyer weiss edition...


vision wheels...new comer in the field... if you trust them...sponsoring canondale road team now...

202, 303, 404... whichever yanks your chain dude...

lightweight wallet...

you have to get your facts straight...pro's have the ability to swap wheels every couple of months... you can't...and breaking a wheel for them is no harder than breaking a sweat...

you break a wheel... it feels like britney spears skewered your testicles with a thorny rose...

if money no problem... i would buy myself the entire Reynolds company and get Paul Lew to build me some fancy wheels...

u da boss man..... i jadi despatch boy with CEO salary can?

This post has been edited by miaopurr: Apr 23 2013, 05:56 PM

i'll make this blonde mofo mah b1atch...


this is the chap who build the german sadist gunther mai a set of "special" lew racing carbon boron vt-1 which is much lighter than the ones sold off the shelf...
http://www.rouesartisanales.com/article-17212505.html
http://velonews.competitor.com/2008/03/bik...road-bike_73034

the wheels were 850grams off the shelf and reached gunther mai @ 734grams... the crazy hitler worshiping mofo took it a further 30 grams lighter by making love to it day and night i meant grinding the axles and stuff that most of us including paul lew think is there for safety reasons...

i am going to buy over reynolds and be his master boss and make him build me wheels day and night until he cries mommy....

that is what i will do if money is no issue....

This post has been edited by butthead: Apr 23 2013, 06:05 PM

can... tat is what we call a silent partner... when the company is accused of terrorist activities or holding illegal sodomistic orgy activities... that fella will get the stig and get despatch to a prison in no man's land and get sexually ravaged by the inmates day after day and night after night with no lube and no protection...

you sure?

This post has been edited by butthead: Apr 23 2013, 06:05 PM

i'll take that, minus the scapegoat, cockmeat sandwich, etc

This post has been edited by miaopurr: Apr 23 2013, 06:19 PM

it's not stated in the contract... but when the time comes... it is expected that you do honor the silent agreement

This post has been edited by butthead: Apr 23 2013, 06:56 PM

wow... i didn't know they don't censor the work cock now...

no longer need a permission to say cock...haha...take that captain slow..

newbie here, thinking of getting a new road bike after retire from tricycle...
can recommend some? budget 2.5k max, found a KHS Flite 300 or is there any better suggestion for a new bike?

is it true that if simply buy a cheap road bike then the upgrading on the part later will be incompatible and expensive? would like to get some comment and learning here

there is no such thing as incompatibility... you might just have to pay quite a bit more to get the whole shebang to work...

there is always options for under RM2.5k... you might want to take a peep at the nearest bike shop to you first...

http://www.baikbike.com/bicycle-shops/

the general guidelines will always be that you take a look at the giants (, meridas, jamis, khs, fuji first.

they will have some sora equipped bikes that should be within 2.5k... then you might need a bit more for some protective gear like helmet, accessories like lights and gloves... expect another RM200-RM300 from those stuff...

pin pointing models might be hard since we don't know a lot of things from you like location, how you allocate your budget and stuff... give the shops a stroll and narrow down your options first.

Unexpectedly Bought the Polar HRM "FlyTrap 60" from Unker. Now need to figure out how to put it in good use.

Weigh my bike, it tips at 7.7kg, this one expected!

what?

that is so dangerous...



i expected to join an orgy tonight, but instead i unexpectedly overslept

lesson in point??? everything is shitz

it could be this?

i jus dun understand why people in 2nd place is always unhappy...

see how happy and satisfied those aunties are

else, if he is retiring from this


then i don't have any recommendation from 20" wheels... do you?

This post has been edited by butthead: Apr 24 2013, 01:07 AM

7.7kg? lets dip it below 7kg!

why not sub 6kg then?

Parlee made a 12lb bike, with the Z1
http://www.flickr.com/photos/kgsbikes/3072135128/

and also the 11.4lb mt. washington hill climb bike used by tyler "the rat" hamilton...it is a Z3SL frame and this weight was achieved back in 2005
http://www.rouesartisanales.com/article-2182023.html



with today's technology and craziness... nothing is impossible...

Sure! IF.. i already have the following:

A rich father.
My pay packet is in USD or
If I have a specialized SL5 frame or any other ultra ones (future) might as well go all the way- blindfolded!
And the big IF... the difficult ones..
You had already convinced our Butthead Kor to go the same path or had successfully neutralise Vin-ann's urges to challenge us, if we do upgrades.
So... you know the answer.................it's Ziltch!

why me... i am a very grounded sensible dude...you can spend all your time preaching to me and i won't convert... money or not...

i am a mortal enemy to weight weenie bikes...

so, nada for me too...

if i have the money... i will buy mclaren, Lockheed and their subsidiary Skunk Works and NASA and make them build bicycle frames and parts for me... i want formula 1 and aerospace technology on my bike...

i am jus stating the fact...

why settle for wat miao calls mainstream items when you can have exclusivity???

i'll put worldwide copyright act on every part of the bike so no one can copy it or i will sue their asses till kingdom come...or if it is china, i'll jus buy a couple of nukes from russia and sent it hurtling down the great mainland...

show them to not mess with someone called butthead...

This post has been edited by butthead: Apr 24 2013, 11:06 AM

Mclaren too mainstream

2 reasons why porsche don't work...

1) they are not in formula 1
1.1) they do not have access to special carbon technologies
2) they do not work with carbon a lot more than mclaren does
3) they do not have wind tunnel
4) they did not build a playstation 3 car like the mp4-12c
5) they are not a conglomerate of companies that can work towards making my exclusive bike (http://www.mclaren.com/group#/what-we-do)
5.5) group companies like "applied technologies" is what helped spez with the McVenge
6) they don't have ron dennis
7) they don't have the visionary gordon murray
8) they don't have a server farm as big as mclaren does
9) they don't have FEA solutions like mclaren does
10) they don't have simulators or the capability to build one like mclaren does
11) last but not least, they are germans and they are most likely communist nazi's

i think i have given enough reasons...

next in line if mclaren is not suitable will be Ferrari... and they have one more thing that mclaren does not have... passionsssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssss

on a side note... GT3 is a car for wussies, 4WD???... any porsche buyers know that they have to buy the rear wheel driven wild and crazy widow maker called the GT2 RS... every second of driving it you live on the edge as it plots millions of way to interestingly kill you... so much possibilities can go through it's little mind if it has one that even the IBM Deep Blue cannot match... gary kasparov could not possibly mind f@k it...

This post has been edited by butthead: Apr 24 2013, 12:12 PM

GT3 is rear wheel drive, GT2 RS is a turbo-ed rear wheel drive.

And btw, that's why Porsches are for people who wants to drive McLaren and Ferrari? Boring

ok, i thought i saw GT3 RS...a man needs to drive a manly car... anything below 700 horse (except for cars as exquisite as a Ferrari) is better left at home or to be driven to the nearby grocery shops only, you don't want to get smoked by the japanese 500++ horse PS3's when you are driving it out... standing still, it already looks like it has a gazillion horses ready to prance out...

mclaren is the sensible gentleman that can occasionally be given some stig....

This post has been edited by butthead: Apr 24 2013, 12:28 PM

This post has been edited by miaopurr: Apr 24 2013, 12:30 PM

that is so stone age...

try this on for size

88 miles an hour

best car in the world

when other cars were yet available...

best car in the world is this...


step into it and you get transported gazillions of light years away in a jiffy... don't even need to sit down...

Smoked or no, don't care. Driver's involvement is important

But if I can buy a computer car?



I don't care how ah beng it is! Cheaper than your McLaren and Ferraris hehe

not when you get a P800 kit for it...

there is no such thing as driver involvement nowadays... we have become too numbskulled to be quick enough to respond and to correct under and oversteer situations...

it'll just be a case of Depress Accelerator-> Heavy Motion Blur-> Meet Wall-> Coffin

This post has been edited by butthead: Apr 24 2013, 12:37 PM

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