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post Nov 15 2012, 10:42 PM, updated 13y ago

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General Talks on bicycles. Feel free to ask and share your cycling experience.Any routes, upgrades or any news that you have might be valueble to us! Also share the pictures of your bicycles!

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Some poison for RoadBike. rclxms.gif

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Frequently Asked Question on what kind of bikes to get:

1) Aluminum bike - 10 speed Tiagra (maybe mixed Tiagra - Sora), priced around RM3k up- this would be the absolute lowest point i would say to start from... any lower and you will land outside of 10speed equipment and any upgrades will certainly be more than the difference you saved not buying this bike.. shimano launched tiagra with 10speed beginning of this year making this a considerable choice... also, this grade of bike will have a more common grade of cockpit (handlebar, stem, seat post, saddle) and cheaper wheels

2) Aluminum bike - 10 speed 105 (maybe mixed 105 - Tiagra), priced around RM3.8k up- most likely the same frame above with a different paint livery, this would be an entry level into shimano's definition of competition components... tiagra would be what they called the top tier among the enthusiast group.. although both 10 speed... but materials and feel... tiagra has a shift indicator while the 105 does not hence giving you a pro feel (what the bike shop will tell you)...mostly.. tiagra has a bit more plasticky bits than 105... some slightly more expensive models might even start offering slightly better wheels like mavic aksiums along with better slightly better graded cockpit...

- i would not try and go past 105 on a aluminum bike... the best brands like specialized or bmc will be selling an aluminum bike equipped with 105 for a little over RM5k... going 1 notch up into ultegra will lead you to start looking into higher end bikes as those bikes will surely creep past RM6k and most likely a mismatch between frame and component grades... you will be practically trying to pair a set of RAYS CE28N onto a Perodua Myvi if you get what i mean in car terms...

3) Carbon bike - 10 speed 105 (possibly not full 105), priced around RM7k up- this would be a foray into performance bicycles... although a carbon frame... but this are not the best carbon has to offer for 2 reasons... carbon cloth grade (less modulus, less weave, lower grade binding agents) and the man power / time needed (less complex layup schedules) to layup the carbon layers into producing a frame... basically a mass produced frame with the lowest production cost possible... not all that bad... it should still be on par if not better with the best of the aluminum frames in terms of stiffness.. basically, component should be similar or slightly better than the aluminum 105 bike depending on the price you pay...

- here i would name one which shocked me quite a bit recently... saw this Look 566...this http://www.lookcycle.com/en/int/route/velo...-bike-2013.html , but i guess a previous year model...... carbon frame with Mavic Aksium wheels... not a complete 105 with some downgraded cranks and calipers... a carbon frame with comfort geometry retailing for RM7.1k if my memory serves me right...

- price is slightly high for some people... but if you look at it...maybe under 30% more if you are looking at a Apex or 105 equipped Specialize Allez

4) free for all - death - bankruptcy - you name it...
- step into this and there will be no return...

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post Nov 15 2012, 10:53 PM

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I decided to pickup cycling with folding bikes. Day1 today and so ngam new thread.

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Lots to learn from you guys...

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post Nov 15 2012, 10:57 PM

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Hey why not put the first post as the palce to show off our bike?

Here mine:


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post Nov 15 2012, 11:38 PM

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QUOTE(auhckw @ Nov 15 2012, 10:53 PM)
I decided to pickup cycling with folding bikes. Day1 today and so ngam new thread.

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Lots to learn from you guys...
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i don't know what you expect to learn other than c0cking 101

that bike is cool looking... the stem worries me a bit though... to be frank...wonder if it can take the weight sweat.gif

QUOTE(minizian @ Nov 15 2012, 10:57 PM)
Hey why not put the first post as the palce to show off our bike?

Here mine:
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and, here is mine blush.gif

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Added on November 15, 2012, 11:48 pmdun know why it just reminds me of some aliens from some movie where their leg bent backwards...WEIRD!!!

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some sexy aliens to induce a good nightmare for you guys tonite..
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the sir chris hoy equivalent of the alien track cycling team..
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why the sudden alien topic??? strange...

well... it's time to fire up the media player to watch some aliens copulating in species...

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natasha henstridge...wooo rclxm9.gif thumbup.gif rclxms.gif brows.gif

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post Nov 15 2012, 11:48 PM

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QUOTE(butthead @ Nov 15 2012, 11:38 PM)
and, here is mine  blush.gif

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u need to get sram pink
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post Nov 15 2012, 11:50 PM

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QUOTE(miaopurr @ Nov 15 2012, 11:48 PM)
u need to get sram pink
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you think stan day will give the green light to create a new line up???
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post Nov 15 2012, 11:52 PM

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QUOTE(butthead @ Nov 15 2012, 11:50 PM)
you think stan day will give the green light to create a new line up???
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for u, why not

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post Nov 15 2012, 11:58 PM

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i don't see why he will... unless he is high on hasheesh


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QUOTE(miaopurr @ Nov 15 2012, 11:52 PM)
for u, why not
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this will have to do for the time being..

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post Nov 16 2012, 06:32 AM

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QUOTE(butthead @ Nov 15 2012, 11:38 PM)
i don't know what you expect to learn other than c0cking 101

that bike is cool looking... the stem worries me a bit though... to be frank...wonder if it can take the weight sweat.gif
Haha... Cannot tahan laugh. Cycling thread v3/v4 really got a lot of off topic post sweat.gif

Anyway, bike specs says:
The maximum combined weight of rider and luggage should not exceed 110kg

I'm only weighing 57kg+-

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QUOTE(minizian @ Nov 15 2012, 10:57 PM)
Hey why not put the first post as the palce to show off our bike?

Here mine:
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Agreed!


Btw here's mine

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Btw there's more than 2 actually ._.

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post Nov 16 2012, 09:10 AM

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QUOTE(auhckw @ Nov 16 2012, 06:32 AM)
Haha... Cannot tahan laugh. Cycling thread v3/v4 really got a lot of off topic post  sweat.gif

Anyway, bike specs says:
The maximum combined weight of rider and luggage should not exceed 110kg

I'm only weighing 57kg+-
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i think it has been off topic 90% of the time from day 1...

110kg.. still looks worrying though...it'll feel like standing on the edge of a cliff riding out of saddle...

enjoy your ride anyhow...go kesas on the tuesday and wednesday nights... lots of foldie riders there...


Added on November 16, 2012, 9:11 am
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Agreed!
Btw here's mine

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Btw there's more than 2 actually ._. 

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bike fetish... do you sleep with em at night or wat blink.gif

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QUOTE(butthead @ Nov 16 2012, 09:10 AM)
i think it has been off topic 90% of the time from day 1...

110kg.. still looks worrying though...it'll feel like standing on the edge of a cliff riding out of saddle...

enjoy your ride anyhow...go kesas on the tuesday and wednesday nights... lots of foldie riders there...


Added on November 16, 2012, 9:11 am

bike fetish... do you sleep with em at night or wat  blink.gif
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They have their own space in the living room.So no problemo wink.gif
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post Nov 16 2012, 09:23 AM

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QUOTE(dinraxxx @ Nov 16 2012, 09:17 AM)
They have their own space in the living room.So no problemo  wink.gif
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i am gonna go kill myself now
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post Nov 16 2012, 09:33 AM

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QUOTE(dinraxxx @ Nov 16 2012, 07:04 AM)
Agreed!
Btw here's mine

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Btw there's more than 2 actually ._. 

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okkie....


QUOTE(dinraxxx @ Nov 16 2012, 09:17 AM)
They have their own space in the living room.So no problemo  wink.gif
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wah lau....

QUOTE(butthead @ Nov 16 2012, 09:23 AM)
i am gonna go kill myself now
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i want go jump off from 14th floor lioa... have u decided how to do it?
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QUOTE(vin_ann @ Nov 16 2012, 09:33 AM)
okkie....
wah lau....
i want go jump off from 14th floor lioa...  have u decided how to do it?
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put your wrist on the cassete. It's way more harmful and slow death smile.gif
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QUOTE(dinraxxx @ Nov 16 2012, 09:49 AM)
put your wrist on the cassete. It's way more harmful and slow death smile.gif
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HAHA! good one
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post Nov 16 2012, 09:59 AM

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QUOTE(miaopurr @ Nov 16 2012, 06:55 AM)
ok bos. i wan no mainstream

backpack with teh tariks. HAHAHA. pagi2 already buat lawak. LOL


Added on November 16, 2012, 6:57 am
off the shelf energy gels are so mainstream. make a homemade one
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i'm not knowlegdeable to make homemade gels. are you fan of homemade? include video-ing ur activity??? brows.gif brows.gif


QUOTE(butthead @ Nov 16 2012, 09:02 AM)
errr... i dunno wat to do with it...

if you can get a lorry of them...i'll give you a jelly wrestling match... i guess that'll put them to better use than being in my stomach...
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up for it??? let's vote...
of course it's out of the question lar... it's not even seen around here let alone having one...

i think the price is more or less the same around here.. kindred got his with force for additional 3k i think..

actually... it is possible to pair 404 and 808...  but mostly tri guys only do that... no sense doing that on road because the 808 is not exactly what you call light in the first place... 303 and 404... don't think it brings much difference except it looks cool...

cross winds are tough and the higher the profile... the tougher it gets.. that is why you saw andy schleck crashed this year in a TT when he was blown off course by a big gust of side wind...

nick wrote about this in a q&a before... read about it..
http://velonews.competitor.com/2012/04/bik...and-more_215372

the zipps are designed to handle all sorts of wind conditions... that being said.. they are still gonna react to heavy winds blowing.. they are not magical in that sense...they are just more efficient at cutting through wind head on... that's all...


Added on November 16, 2012, 9:07 am

yeah... that's a great idea... in fact you can throw in something special in the mix... like amphetamines, corticosteroids, etc.... it'll be the best refueling mix ever... bet you'll put allen lim out of biz...

why didn't USPS thought of distributing PED in energy gels??? that is so inconspicuous...
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the reviews said the gel gives you endurance, yet fast recovery.

u can perform the endurance the next day...

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alamak..... i'll take those gels. just take my money
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QUOTE(vin_ann @ Nov 16 2012, 09:33 AM)
i want go jump off from 14th floor lioa...  have u decided how to do it?
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banzai... li tat also need teaching meh...

0) open the lance armstrong ATOC interview with paul kimmage and listen to him telling you that you are not worth the chair you are sitting on...
here...

1) lift your lazy azz up from the chair you are sitting on (shut down your computer if you are a good employee, go green mar)
2) walk to the nearest lift (loading lift is better, there is reasons for this)
3) press the arrow pointing up
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4) wait for lift door to open
5) walk into lift when lift door opens
6) press the biggest number you can find, hope you passed your standard 1 math exam
7) squat yourself into the 100M sprint starting position
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in case you don't know wat the heck i am talking about
8) wait for lift door to open, time varies depending on how many floors you have to go up... be patient and treat it like those drag strip christmas tree..
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9) sprint like hell or michael johnson
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~ at this point... keep running and only one of 2 things will happen

1) you find yourself running where there is no ground and suddenly you remember your primary school science class where the teacher is teaching you about gravity.. panic the shit out of yourself for 10 seconds and then you might see white light and stuff...
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maybe some pretty girls inviting you somemore...

2) you hit face first into some glass window because you got off the wrong floor when the lift door opened...
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at this point, you can punch the living lights out of the idiot who pressed the lift button stopping your lift on the wrong floor and continue to be the laughing stock of the entire building for a epically failed suicide attempt... or walk back to the lift and repeat from step 3

moral of story... take the stairs...


Added on November 16, 2012, 10:17 am
QUOTE(vin_ann @ Nov 16 2012, 09:59 AM)
the reviews said the gel gives you endurance, yet fast recovery.

u can perform the endurance the next day...
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sounds more like via-gra blink.gif

QUOTE(vin_ann @ Nov 16 2012, 09:59 AM)
i'm not knowlegdeable to make homemade gels. are you fan of homemade? include video-ing ur activity???  brows.gif  brows.gif
why need to video... want to post instructional video on youtube is it?

home made gel.. .easy lar...

use 2 tubes of ky jelly, durex play (don't buy the heat or tingling ones...you don't want your tongue to be on fire or tinglish) or astroglide... blend some mango, orange, apple, pineapple, black/blue/green/purple berries and mix them together... last but not least... fold in 2 kilos of sugar and 1 kilo of salt for packing in more energy and replacing your lost sodiums...

freeze the shitz out of it... pour it into used gel packs and staple the shit up... and there you have your home made gel pack...


Added on November 16, 2012, 10:21 am
QUOTE(miaopurr @ Nov 16 2012, 10:03 AM)
alamak..... i'll take those gels. just take my money
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for jelly wrestling match??

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QUOTE(dinraxxx @ Nov 16 2012, 09:17 AM)
They have their own space in the living room.So no problemo  wink.gif
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Your living room full of bikes. Some more park in front of TV and got hanging bikes. How to walk around there... hmm.gif laugh.gif

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