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 Proton PrevĂ© V18, more and more on da roads!

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post Sep 13 2013, 12:28 PM

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QUOTE(ben3003 @ Sep 13 2013, 11:10 AM)
ur question like u asking whether this is manual iafm or not. then we clarify to u is manual mode, wat more u wan.
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I am asking the comparison of Manual Transmission with the AT version (non turbo)
Will the FC better than AT or AT Turbo one?
What about in terms of overall, I dont mind driving MT car
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post Sep 13 2013, 01:18 PM

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<< in city traffic, when u stop at traffic n want to start moving,never press ur throttle 1st,wait until the car start moving or rolling bx itself n the rpm raise by 1krpm++,then u start to press the fuel pedal.>>

This method will sure eat smoke of heavy lorry(already move aleast 50m in front turbo Charged PReve)
The car behind Preve thinking WTF is this siput car? Preve is cause of traffic jam




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post Sep 13 2013, 01:38 PM

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QUOTE(mat79 @ Sep 13 2013, 08:19 AM)
wait until 10k service,then its optimum then. for preve iafm,the weight did hampered its city drive. and rm50 is old price,now around rm55. and its on average.

but i can give u a tip on how to juice up ur fc n understand how punch cvt work. apply to all,same as cfe.

in city traffic, when u stop at traffic n want to start moving,never press ur throttle 1st,wait until the car start moving or rolling bx itself n the rpm raise by 1krpm++,then u start to press the fuel pedal.

2nd, for punch cvt, there are 3 diff strategies applied.

no 1, 1k rpm to 1.6 krpm,torque being reduce a bit for ease of parking,crawling in traffic jam and driving around housing area when speed is only up to 40kmh max.

when u r crawling in traffic jam,stop n go movement when speed isnt exceeding 40kmh,just rev around that region.

no 2, 1.7krpm to 1.9krpm,or exactly below 2krpm,for city driving n slow hway cruising,the engine wil labour for optimum fuel efficiency,same as cvt ratio. yup its feel slow,but adequate enough in city driving where speed is not more than 80 kmh. so,if ur driving in town n traffic is smooth,only stop at traffic light,n after that smooth,then rev around this region.

no 3,2k rpm and beyond,this is when the character of cvt change,for cfe,of course feel like a massive torque,for iafm+,u will feel its power start to come.
the cvt ratio is more on agressive ratio,where low ratio is being given utmost priority,to ease overtaking,sudden acceleration,fully loaded, hill climbing etc. slam the pedal a bit beyond 2k rpm,even at 2.1krpm,u will feel diff feeling compare to below 2krpm, u can hear the cvt n engine roar a bit. this is where normally people will drive,but being cvt,that is not the most fuel efficient.

and since cvt, u will feel below 2krpm is really slow,but actually its not that slow. the speed still climb as conventional at at around 2k to 2.5krpm,due to smoothness,u feel it slow. thats why many kaki's dont like cvt,it doesnt give manly feeling same as manual or conventional auto or dsg.

and dont use sat function for iafm unless u know how to manipulate it. it may give better acceleration feeling,but just the feeling,not the speed.

try out urself,using sat,rev not exceeding 2krpm each gear,driving in full cvt mode,slam to 2krpm. cmpare the feeling and the speed.
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Don't need to be so complicated. In summary, be light-footed and don't let the revs be high above 2,000 is enough. Keep the rpm around 1500-2000 in traffic jam situations.

Another method is not to press and hold the accelerator pedal to move the car forward. Press a bit, lift up your foot and press a bit more in short intervals. This will also save fuel, but of course the car won't be accelerating rapidly but in slow steady pace.

As for your recommendation on letting the car move by itself from 0km/h, as the poster above Kinitos has mentioned, although it may be good to save fuel, but if the car in front is moving fast and there is a lot of space in front and your Preve is moving like a turtle, the driver behind will not be very happy. Some may horn you or overtake from the left. If you leave too much space in front, other cars from the left will cut in, and this will cause your lane to move slower, as the vehicles behind you will lose out more if many vehicles keep cutting in front of you. IN other words, other vehicles are moving faster than you and you are preventing other vehicles from moving up further in front the road. You can of course drive in the middle lane or left lane, but then surely the lorries or big trucks will sound the horn if they see too much space in front as if your engine is malfunctioning or something.
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post Sep 13 2013, 01:57 PM

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:-) u can actually predict the traffic,when it start to move.its not really taking time to wait like 5 seconds,it just merely a second,and it will accelerate better when clutch fully release without need to press more.

but then,its up to you. just sharing it. many have tried it without a problem or any big lorry leave u 50 meters behind.

same as manual car,i dont see manual car lunch toward as fast as conv at coz they need time to realease the clutch n at the same time pressing the accelerator pedal,unless u rev it high earlier for

even if u press the pedal without let the clutch release 1st,n u r daydreaming, u aint going fast either n ended up being honk by others :-).

its up to you, never force or mentioned its compulsory to do.dont bother it if dont like it.:-), i just sharing info how to get more juice which isnt something which being told everyday.

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post Sep 13 2013, 02:03 PM

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im not being complicated. revving more the speed that u needed is a waste. even revving 1.9k rpm which below 2k rpm at parking lot not needed.

as i said,just sharing info n trying to help,not forcing. then i shud left u guys alone then.

im sorry coz make it too complicated n maybe offended some of u.
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post Sep 13 2013, 02:49 PM

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QUOTE(mat79 @ Sep 13 2013, 02:03 PM)
im not being complicated. revving more the speed that u needed is a waste. even revving 1.9k rpm which below 2k rpm at parking lot not needed.

as i said,just sharing info n trying to help,not forcing. then i shud left u guys alone then.

im sorry coz make it too complicated n maybe offended some of u.
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what you have said to wait till the clutch is fully in (make the car move on its own before pressing the accelerator pedal) is 1 way to save fuel.. been there, done that.. this is not conventional automatic gearbox, but its CVT.. conventional gearbox, the car will start to move the moment u letgo the brake pedal, but its diffrent in CVT, whereby it takes not even 1 second to move forward. i drove through klcc, jalan tun razak, jalan yap kwan seng without any1 honking me at al by doing the same..
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post Sep 13 2013, 03:12 PM

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Chill guys, it's all up to individual paddle control, you feel comfortable revving before it turns green, suit yourself. If you feel comfortable letting the car move on its own, up to you too biggrin.gif
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post Sep 13 2013, 03:32 PM

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QUOTE(:3mushy:3 @ Sep 13 2013, 03:12 PM)
Chill guys, it's all up to individual paddle control, you feel comfortable revving before it turns green, suit yourself. If you feel comfortable letting the car move on its own, up to you too biggrin.gif
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can i like your comment?
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I have to agree with mat79 and viknes.

I appreciate your post mat79, cause I learnt more about the CVT gearbox. And after reading your post this morning, i tried driving with the "let car move first before pressing on accelerator pedal" this afternoon.. It is slow and relaxed, but like you said, it's all up to us whether to anticipate the front cars moving, and follow suit...

So far no horn yet. Cause the car behind me usually end up slower to follow me anyway, so they must be daydreaming instead. laugh.gif And I doubt they use CVT gearbox with mat79's method too.

So, to those who saying we cause jam by using this slow acceleration from stand-still method for CVT gearbox.... Suck on it. laugh.gif
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post Sep 13 2013, 06:11 PM

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and enjoy ur better fuel consumption bro.. smile.gif
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post Sep 14 2013, 10:54 AM

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QUOTE(flex3x @ Sep 12 2013, 04:03 PM)
Proton Preve 0-100kmh acceleration Manual Mode
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N3UFPZj3yBY
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0-100km/h in 9.7-9.8s. Impressive. It appears that the fuel tank is full. If it is half empty or near to empty, might register a slightly better time.
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post Sep 14 2013, 11:17 AM

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QUOTE(Kinitos @ Sep 13 2013, 01:18 PM)
This method will sure eat smoke of heavy lorry(already move aleast 50m in front turbo Charged PReve)
The car behind Preve thinking WTF is this siput car? Preve is cause of traffic jam
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QUOTE(Dwango @ Sep 13 2013, 01:38 PM)
As for your recommendation on letting the car move by itself from 0km/h, as the poster above Kinitos has mentioned, although it may be good to save fuel, but if the car in front is moving fast and there is a lot of space in front and your Preve is moving like a turtle, the driver behind will not be very happy. Some may horn you or overtake from the left. If you leave too much space in front, other cars from the left will cut in, and this will cause your lane to move slower, as the vehicles behind you will lose out more if many vehicles keep cutting in front of you. IN other words, other vehicles are moving faster than you and you are preventing other vehicles from moving up further in front the road. You can of course drive in the middle lane or left lane, but then surely the lorries or big trucks will sound the horn if they see too much space in front as if your engine is malfunctioning or something.
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I've tested the Preve specifically for this behaviour (time between brake release to start creeping), and I used to own the FLX CVT, and it is not as slow as you'd imagine. Almost immediately I release the brakes both the Preve and FLX will start to creep and throttle can be applied.

The point here is even if you rev the engine before the clutch close, you are not taking off any faster than waiting for that fraction of a second for the clutch to close. You are just burning fuel uselessly.

I practice the same method with my Fiesta, wait til the clutch close and the car begins to creep then only I'll start applying throttle (primarily because it is a dry clutch and I don't wanna wear the clutch out too much). I guarantee you the Fiesta's clutch close even slower than the Preve's, but I don't have any problem with traffic behind bieng irritated, you just need to learn to anticipate traffic.

I just wonder what they are thinking when they see my brake lights disappear and my car doesn't start moving until 1-2 seconds later laugh.gif

Take the advice as you will, just my 2 sens.

This post has been edited by dares: Sep 14 2013, 11:29 AM
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Anybody did their servicing at Proton Seksyen 13 before?

I got a feeling i may have been cheated.

Do you get back the remaining engine oil container after your service at Seksyen 13?

I did my first service there. The person in charge 'Zul' tried to bluff me by saying it is a MUST to buy the 'magnetrap' product for the oil filter for 1st service. I declined. He did not seem happy.

I told him about my car problems. He said will check.

Here's the thing.. I forgot to mark my oil filter before sending it in. When I got back my car he said everything was checked n done. (Later I check those parts, some not even adjusted, they just tell me it's adjusted.)

I did not not get back my remaining engine oil container.

1week later now I check my engine oil, it is already starting to turn brown-ish ..

Should I be concerned that they did not even change my engine oil and oil filter? How do I even know if they did not change anything? Maybe this brownish oil is actually my old oil? New oil shouldn't turn light brown so fast, right?

I'm just worried, as I know engine may have metal pieces after run in , and engine oil needs to be changed in 1st service to clear those pieces.. If they did not change, and my engine keeps running with this old engine oil until 10,000km??? Sure have problem right? Really regret going there. Should have gone to jln227 branch instead.
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post Sep 15 2013, 11:32 PM

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Anyone is using Manual Transmission Preve here?
Comment please.
I am not saying manual mode on the turbo preve Thanks.
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post Sep 16 2013, 10:40 AM

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QUOTE(preveverp @ Sep 15 2013, 10:44 PM)
Anybody did their servicing at Proton Seksyen 13 before?

I got a feeling i may have been cheated.

Do you get back the remaining engine oil container after your service at Seksyen 13?

I did my first service there. The person in charge 'Zul'  tried to bluff me by saying it is a MUST to buy the 'magnetrap' product for the oil filter for 1st service. I declined. He did not seem happy.

I told him about my car problems. He said will check.

Here's the thing.. I forgot to mark my oil filter before sending it in. When I got back my car he said everything was checked n done. (Later I check those parts, some not even adjusted, they just tell me it's adjusted.)

I did not not get back my remaining engine oil container.

1week later now I check my engine oil, it is already starting to turn brown-ish ..

Should I be concerned that they did not even change my engine oil and oil filter? How do I even know if they did not change anything? Maybe this brownish oil is actually my old oil? New oil shouldn't turn light brown so fast, right?

I'm just worried, as I know engine may have metal pieces after run in , and engine oil needs to be changed in 1st service to clear those pieces.. If they did not change, and my engine keeps running with this old engine oil until 10,000km??? Sure have problem right? Really regret going there. Should have gone to jln227 branch instead.
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large SC normally use oil from barrels.
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post Sep 16 2013, 12:09 PM

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QUOTE(preveverp @ Sep 15 2013, 10:44 PM)
Anybody did their servicing at Proton Seksyen 13 before?

I got a feeling i may have been cheated.

Do you get back the remaining engine oil container after your service at Seksyen 13?

I did my first service there. The person in charge 'Zul'  tried to bluff me by saying it is a MUST to buy the 'magnetrap' product for the oil filter for 1st service. I declined. He did not seem happy.

I told him about my car problems. He said will check.

Here's the thing.. I forgot to mark my oil filter before sending it in. When I got back my car he said everything was checked n done. (Later I check those parts, some not even adjusted, they just tell me it's adjusted.)

I did not not get back my remaining engine oil container.

1week later now I check my engine oil, it is already starting to turn brown-ish ..

Should I be concerned that they did not even change my engine oil and oil filter? How do I even know if they did not change anything? Maybe this brownish oil is actually my old oil? New oil shouldn't turn light brown so fast, right?

I'm just worried, as I know engine may have metal pieces after run in , and engine oil needs to be changed in 1st service to clear those pieces.. If they did not change, and my engine keeps running with this old engine oil until 10,000km??? Sure have problem right? Really regret going there. Should have gone to jln227 branch instead.
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please report ur case by calling or emailing wecare asap,especially on compulsory buying magnettrap. its recommended,not compulsory though. cant force the customer. but the good thing is he asked u 1st b4 installing.

for engine oil,some use barrel,some use bottle in branch sc. normally stated in the slip.
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post Sep 16 2013, 12:44 PM

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i would like to know too biggrin.gif
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post Sep 16 2013, 01:46 PM

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QUOTE(ropaisoft @ Sep 16 2013, 10:40 AM)
large SC normally use oil from barrels.
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QUOTE(mat79 @ Sep 16 2013, 12:09 PM)
please report ur case by calling or emailing wecare asap,especially on compulsory buying magnettrap. its recommended,not compulsory though. cant force the customer. but the good thing is he asked u 1st b4 installing.

for engine oil,some use barrel,some use bottle in branch sc. normally stated in the slip.
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My slip didn't say barrel or container, just says 'Syntiun 800 SM 10w/40 - 4L' .. So I'm guessing it's 4Litres container. But I didn't get back my remainder, so I have no idea whether it was really changed.

He didn't really ask me about the magnetrap, but he didn't force it either. Its ok, I'll let that slip for now.. Will see if they try to sell it again next time.

- Anyone have any experience with jalan227 branch? Will it be better than Seksyen 13 or same?

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