my car FC started to be frugal at 13k km onwards alongside with more refined engine power and revving noise compared when it is still new and fresh..

my car sudah "adult" edi..

At first, I also thought fc is quite high for forte. But it isn't so bad. Of course cannot compare with altis or civic both already king in car market. It may slightly higher.

Really depends on your attitude on the road. Don't vroom vroom when no lady. Don't tailgate when front car is not lady. Don't accelarate when you see red light or lady in front.

I have almost full city drive can reach 480km mileage with 85 ringgit full tank. Around 17 to 18 cent per km. Not bad for 1.3 tonne of this car.

Thats in your mind. Alot of that so called 'difference' that ppl experience between Ron 95 fuel and Ron 97 is actually psychological. You may see some minor difference but no where worth the price ure paying for Ron 97 currently. The slightly better mileage (if any) will be easily obscured by the much higher cost of the Ron 97 fuel. Please be reminded that Shell Ron 97 is not Shell V Power Racing.

Do u even know what is RON? RON stands for Research Octane Number, a rating used to measure a fuels knocking resistance in spark-ignition internal combustion engines. Knocking is what happens when parts or all of the air-fuel mixture prematurely ignites before the flame from the spark plug can reach it. In reality a higher RON number means the fuel burns less easily so how can it provide you with more power?

Performance engines normally have higher compression ratios so it needs higher knock resistance to withstand higher compression. Only engines with higher compression ratios take advantage of higher octane gas. If you pump a fuel with a higher octane reading, all ure doing is waste it as your car engine doesnt take advanatge of its additional knocking resistance. A majority of the cars on the road are designed with lower compression ratios thus only requiring RON92 or RON95 fuel.

There are numerous articles on the net. These are some of the many:

http://paultan.org/2006/07/25/research-octane-number/

http://www.fraudguides.com/tips/june2.asp

http://www.consumer.ftc.gov/articles/0210-...octane-gasoline

The problem with most ppl is that they think the performance increase (if any) will be significant and most of the time its just quantified by word of mouth rather than any hard facts. Most of this crap is spread by the petrol companies themselves to get more ppl to purchase higher RON fuel. But the fact is that more and more car manufacturers are developing engines which are better suited for lower octane fuel due to efforts to keep fuel costs down. So guys please stop wasting money on using fuel which is not specified for your car. The cost far outweighs any minor benefit you may get.

And i say this again, there will be ZERO increase in acceleration if you use RON97 fuel for a normal car designed for RON95 fuel.

Let me share this with you. There was a medical survey that was done a few years back in a Western country (not sure which). In that survey a group of ppl were given a new multivitamin pill once a day for a period of 3 months and we're told that this pill would bring major health advantages. At the end of the 3 month period, they were asked to take a survey with questions on various aspects of their health and body. 85% of the group members claimed improvements in various aspects of their physical wellbeing.

But the fact was, they were all given a 'dud' pill or empty pill filled with granulated glucose with no medicinal properties whatsoever.

The power of the mind eh?

oh i see. thanks for the info man. i will sign the agreement with bank this monday. but SA ask for downpayment today so they can proceed with bodykit and etc2. should i pay full? or should i pay partially and pay the rest when i collect my car? never buy a car before. lol~

I love this head light so much. Wish to have it. But the price is too expensive (for me). I rather use that money to do other thing. If u can find a cheaper head light with LED in it, pls share with me.

you can actually order from ebay, slightly cheaper

i told the RON thingy to most of my friends but non of them believe me. of coz, i din explain as pro as u la. some of them saying that 97 can clean engine also.
well i think as long as my friends happy with it then no issue, spending can be = happiness mah
no offense

bennedict gor, ur fc really imrpove a lot lot lot wor

don't be too disappointed Ah Bennedict kor.. Forte in worldwide started to hold its contender liao. no doubt Corolla and Civic had come a long way for few decades but Forte wins alot of hearts for its good looking, fun to drive, ride more refined than let's say prev gen Civic. We will see that K3 soon will be the top position in overall than anything Japanese.

Kia has done well recently for their Sportage, Rio and now K3.

U up lah...

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Anyone facing motor mount issues?
currently my forte 2.0 has already run 7000km.

the engine is vibrating and feels like the engine is going forth and back while driving.

Does the SC cover for motor mount repairs? and if it doesn't how much will it cost? Please share you experience, thanks

Good taste you've got there

I agree. Please do not risk your lives and others You wanna go fast? Can. Choose roads that you frequently travel which is well lit AND those roads that allow you to go fast. That way there are no surprises

I used to travel MEX quite often. Managed to hit 210kmph at one point during broad daylight. Never dared to try faster than that. Seeing the meter pointing to 210 is frightening enough bola kecut already that time

Bro, you are correct on the power part. RON97 and RON95 does not give us more power. Only reason why you should pump 97 over 95 is because you want to take care of your engine. It all depends on your engine compression ratio.
I've heard this somewhere before, but Forte's compression ratio is at the low end of RON97 (recommended petrol). It means that it is RON95 compatible (wouldn't kill your engine). However, in the long run (I don't know how long though), it will be bad for your engine.
Some might think, the incompatibility is so insignificant, when you decided to sell off the car after 7 years, you won't even experience any engine issues yet. I say - partially true. Depends on your luck
I myself pump RON97 alternately. And I have to admit, my company subsidizes my petrol (otherwise I would take the risk myself pumping full RON95 ). My work requires me to travel a lot. So I must keep my car in tip top condition at all times. No car = cannot cari makan

thanks for telling me the location of the shop bro

i'm considering to buy Firestorm..anyone can tell me how much is the price?? (with installation)

Bro Gigohlo, your "company" subsidize your petrol?
By "company" you meant Sugar Mummy si bo?

Hehehe...juz kidding yaar!

Following Bro Cybermaster98's comment on RON ratings and it's correlation with combustion engines, I trust the link below on te subject of "Engine Knocking" would make an appropriate read for all those interested/hungry for more info:

http://auto.howstuffworks.com/engine-knock1.htm

Happy reading folks!

Sure la.. want good business and immediate on site, still want me pay for petrol meh!?

Lets go for a TT this Friday/Saturday night!

Absolutely..i pumped RON95 fuel all the way from day 1 until now (almost 3 years). No harm done..no issue whatsoever on the engine. I've also tried pumping in RON97 fuel before for full tank, 3 full tank in a row to be exact..nothing differs except burning a hole in my pocket