Happy birthday ah bear...

Happy birthday to ah_bear.

Happy birthday 2 u, bear Thanks for all the contributions on our Forte car here.

sure got d la, see whole day no reply. lol

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Guys, I'm planning to do my 20k services. My car radio need to do some update cos the reception is very bad. If can wanna ask them help me update my GPS too. I heard all these software upgrade not all service center do. The last time i remember the reception told me the jalan 222 branch had this services but I search thru their branch cant find Jalan 222 branch. Can anyone gave me the address? Or i remember wrongly its not Jalan 222?

Yeah man..this Ah_Bear must be busy getting his 60KM 'service' from Ah Moi Service Centre Sdn Bhd

Try searching:
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thanks everyone for the wishes !! much appreciated it.. ~ ~
I won't marah laaa.. its my nickname since my primary school till now.. even my
office colleagues and bosses calls me Bear.. but origin is Polar bear la..

those ppl here saw me during the night TT before will know why I am polar bear

sorry this weekend I've plans liao.. next weekend I am free.. I don't mind to have convoy
lepak2 drive from Ampang to Genting also

This post has been edited by Ah_Bear: Feb 24 2013, 12:52 AM

rooooaaarrr !! I wish la.. just lepak2 minum at Scott Garden old klang road just now..
don't have special amoi2 service.. not even got 1,000km service from Ah Lian Service Centre Sdn Bhd

your name sounds familiar.. what avatar did you use previously.. ?
which SC location for Jalan 222 ar.. ?

EH HEM EH HEM.. bu yao luan luan jiang.. !!

i'm thinking between Preve Premium (RM7xk) and Forte 1.6 (RM8xk).

Both are quite similar in my opinion, except few things such as brandings, etc. Hope to hear more from this topic since you guys are actually driving Preve itself.

Preve Pros
Cheaper (around 10k) compare to Forte
Technology quite similar to Forte (not exactly same, but both with good qualities)

Preve Cons
Turbo engine still unsure on the performance/maintenance in long run, e.g. after 4-5 years
Proton Spare parts slightly more expensive

Forte Pros
Kia engine been there for years and proven to be more reliable (at least the review that I read so far from forum) IMHO
Forte spare parts slightly more cheaper thank Preve. I chk with some spare parts dealer, they kept quite a number of stocks due to huge demands.

Forte Cons
Pricier than Preve. Moreover, both Kia and Proton post sales services still quite bad IMHO. I'm comparing with Perodua only, cannot match at all.


So guys, can tips me a bit? I'm the type who drive a car 5-7 years before I change to a new one. So a good maintenance and worth the value will be my choice to choose one.

depends on what you need ie: features, safety, design preference, ride comfort and noise level, acceleration, handling etc comparison..
Proton cars still having its weak QC, flimsy materials and disappointing durability in current modern car maker industry..
Saga FLX rattles and loose plastics after 40k km mileage, Exora CFE has its famous buzzy and sluggish CVT, easily broken cooler vents plastics for "A/C" rear passengers..

Kia on the other hand, has none friendly treatment Service Advisors in SC, they are working everyday with no passion and happiness.
Forte isn't a perfect car / ZERO defect.. it still have some very very minor problems differs on each cars when bought new.. the famous one
being pull left steering, warm or nearly hot on cupholders plastics and front driver's side beside USB/Ipod plug-in socket and some got rattling seats
or dashboard.. but its overall built and ride quality is superior than the Preve's..

to sums up individual Forte and Preve's pros and cons in my point of view as follows:

Forte 2.0SX (sorry I have to base on 2.0's feedback because I don't own 1.6SX)
Pros:
1) First of all, very obvious you'll be greeted by convenient keyless lock and unlock and could start the engine by pressing the "START" button
right after your butt is sitting on the driver's seat by not having to take out the key fob from your pants pocket..
Preve's should have the key fob cucuk into they remote slot before you could push the "START" button.. and then
it gives you another problem.. !! when you press the button, the plastic fitting will move, see how flimsy and low quality it is ?
2) Reverse camera with auto electrochromic function. (1.6SX/2.0SX)
3) 6 speed auto brings the driving experience more lively.. one of the considerably smooth and prompt gear change gearbox around
4) 6 airbags with cruise control (2.0SX only)
5) Very quiet and most refined engine for bread and butter C-Segment class with sedate driving.. (1.6SX/2.0SX)
6) Despite its presence in Boleh-land for already 4 yrs, it still looks "futuristic" and "sporty" and one-of-a-kind
better looking C-Segment in the market at this point of time
7) Paddle shift (1.6SX/2.0SX) which is able to "feel" the gears better virtually than the CVT gearbox
8) Easy to read instrument cluster aka meter and LCD information (the way of info and numbers shown, direct and easy to read)

Cons:
1) CKD Car assembly still not great ie: inconsistent door closing sounds on each door, uneven door gaps, dashboard fitment workmanship better
than Proton, but not better than Toyota Vios & Honda's
2) Mediocre acceleration / pick-up strength.. probably due to limited torque to move the 17" inch all wheels and C segment body size and weight..
overtaking cars on highway could take a while.. (1.6SX)
torquey, smooth and quiet engine on highway, but higher revs at 4k rpm above could sound like WUUUUUUUUUUU - unpleasant screaming (2.0SX)
3) Doors closing sound still not as solid as other C segment competitors. For my case, all doors have different thud sound.
4) Slightly higher FC than the likes of Toyota Vios, Honda City (1.6SX)

Preve
Pros:
1) CFE engine of course.
2) Fun to drive especially town driving. Easily cilok here and there to overtake and cuts into ppl's lane quickly without signaling
(continuous good torque on low rpm)
3) Going to Cameron Highland via Tapah old road sapu corners at 80kmph without worries..
alot of confidence and very safe feeling at any kind of road curves (legendary Lotus Ride and Handling suspension)
4) Continental car-like of ride feeling.
5) Proton's current most expensive sedan model.

Cons:
1) Lousy execution for keyless go and start stop engine. No purpose having that feature when you still need
to take out the key fob from the pocket to start the car.
2) Stupidly designed numerical font. Trying to mimic the digit numbers like the PS1 era's game console RPG games ?? HP / MP / LVL
3) Again.. hard to read information LCD on instrument panel.
4) Small screen and cacat cheap looking ICE HU.
5) CVT drives like a dead fish. Acceleration from the engine is noisy like driving a Nissan Vannette.
6) Exterior design esp front end looks like ikan paus. For Toyota Vios looks like dugong. Fish species.
7) Proton's infamous ciput absorbers will kaput after 3 years of use no matter how gentle or jialat you drive the car.
Same case for Proton Inspira.
8) Warranty still cannot beat Kia's warranty of 5 years with UNLIMITED kilometers mileage.

Lastly, do test drive at least more than 3 cars which within your budget and your selected ones that you like it and fits your criteria..
test drive something else which abit more expensive or cheaper than your budget also nevermind.. at least you would know
how well the products are madenowadays..

-End-

This post has been edited by Ah_Bear: Feb 24 2013, 03:30 AM

There you have it. The Birthday Boy has spoken!
He took time off from his important 'service' session just to share his insights on Preve vs Forte query.
I second his opinion on this.

Btw, what about Inspira vs Forte? Any ideas/comments?

If u like more on sheer power, better handling, comfort & quiet driving, cheaper price, bigger cabin space, 4 airbags..frankly speaking Preve CFE is the way to go.

But if u like on sportier looks, overall a better built & quality, a true keyless engine start stop & entry, a true auto AC, 7" HU, sports tune suspension with 17" rims, a practical electrochromic rear view mirror & reverse camera..Forte 1.6SX is the only option.

I've owned both cars..Preve CFE & Forte..but Forte 2.0 actually..however, i believe it is more or less applicable.

This post has been edited by izputra: Feb 24 2013, 09:03 AM

wow nice , lets go ...

Bear be number plan plan plan ^^

bear wan amoi eh service centre ar ?

come come i bring u go special service.

bro Preve CFE u mentioned its a quiet car ka.. ? how come my cousin's Preve so noisy wan.. ? the noise from engine is like vibration buzzy noise but in fact no vibration gegar2 felt from anywhere in the car..

I use an apple eat android robot avatar previously. Ya we say wanna do a tt Last time...

Jln 222 don't have SC right? Nvm maybe I change my question. I wanna do a radio software update which SC shall I go? Last time go CSL SC they say they are not doing this...

my Forte 2.0 feel engine very noisy especially when i pick up to over cut car...

i dont think Forte engine sound quiet, mayb my unit got problem?