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luckykid5
post Feb 24 2013, 01:57 AM

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i'm thinking between Preve Premium (RM7xk) and Forte 1.6 (RM8xk).

Both are quite similar in my opinion, except few things such as brandings, etc. Hope to hear more from this topic since you guys are actually driving Preve itself.

Preve Pros
Cheaper (around 10k) compare to Forte
Technology quite similar to Forte (not exactly same, but both with good qualities)

Preve Cons
Turbo engine still unsure on the performance/maintenance in long run, e.g. after 4-5 years
Proton Spare parts slightly more expensive

Forte Pros
Kia engine been there for years and proven to be more reliable (at least the review that I read so far from forum) IMHO
Forte spare parts slightly more cheaper thank Preve. I chk with some spare parts dealer, they kept quite a number of stocks due to huge demands.

Forte Cons
Pricier than Preve. Moreover, both Kia and Proton post sales services still quite bad IMHO. I'm comparing with Perodua only, cannot match at all.


So guys, can tips me a bit? I'm the type who drive a car 5-7 years before I change to a new one. So a good maintenance and worth the value will be my choice to choose one.
luckykid5
post Mar 4 2013, 01:23 PM

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guys just wondering which car will have better petrol saving, between 1.6L and 2.0L.

Now to my understanding, 1.6L should be more petrol saving if
1) More to city drive (70%)
2) Less to highway drive (30%)

2.0L should be more petrol saving if
1) Less to city drive (30%)
2) More to highway drive (70%)

Now, of course other consideration are such as how you press the pedal, how often you break, your driving style, etc. So let say for general knowledge, is my understanding correct?

A friend told me that 2.0L is more petrol saving irregardless if you have more city or highway drive. his explanation was Forte is a heavy car and if you have more than 3 ppl sit inside your car, then 1.6L is underpower. Whereby 2.0L is powerful enough irregardless of the no of ppl sit inside.

I tried to reason saying that the petrol needed by 1.6L is lower, even though there are 3 ppl sitting inside the car.

so now, which is which?
luckykid5
post Mar 4 2013, 01:54 PM

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QUOTE(stevenc68 @ Mar 4 2013, 01:52 PM)
If the car is underpowered, I think the fuel consumption will be higher.

2.0 is good if the traffic is smooth even in the city. a lot of stop go and waiting at traffic light will increase fuel consumption.
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so are you confirming to me that 1.6L is underpower for Forte?

or you just just telling me if underpower, then fuel consumption will be higher?


another question, if alot of stop and go at traffic light, will 2.0 makan more minyak compare to 1.6?
luckykid5
post Mar 4 2013, 03:15 PM

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QUOTE(aCCeBeR @ Mar 4 2013, 02:31 PM)
i guess the final conclusion will be the right leg that determines the FC and other factors like city n highway driving.
and just for your information that we have gathered here.

having said that, alot of fortezen have been trying to calculate the FC

so most of them get RM85 full tank to get 350-480 KM.
I am driving 1.6sx and getting the lower range of the mileage..

but that is becoz alot of stop n go while on the way to work..

any sifus around can input on the FC of 2.0 SX?
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agree with you that final conclusion depending on the right leg. now let say right leg adjustment the same, and driving path also the same, between 1.6L and 2.0L, which one LOGICALLY will save more petrol?

QUOTE(dvinez @ Mar 4 2013, 03:02 PM)
for city drive it really depends, but regardless of 1.6 or 2.0, it should be around 400km+/- if the traffic is bad. probably 50km difference only.

just get what you like and afford smile.gif
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both i can afford,just that i wanna buy a good FC consumption car only. So say 50KM difference, that 2.0L more petrol saving? or 1.6L?
luckykid5
post Mar 4 2013, 10:41 PM

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QUOTE(dvinez @ Mar 4 2013, 03:20 PM)
i think only la, i am not pro. sweat.gif

if traffic jam, on idle 2.0 use more petrol.
if stop and go, stop and go, 1.6 use more petrol if got passengers inside.
if drive smooth, 1.6 better.

if budget is not a problem, get 2.0 with extra airbags, which are valuable and cant be added later.
2.0 are more powerful, if u like to vroomm and like cucuk cucuk brows.gif
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i totally agree with you. 2.0 has more features and definately more powerful when i press on the pedal. no doubt about it. but one of your comment 1.6 to drive smoother, in what sense?

QUOTE(esmond_SP @ Mar 4 2013, 03:48 PM)
agree with you bro.. driving 2.0sx is more fun as you can get more torque than 1.6sx at lower rpm, apart from the additional safety features. not forgotten the EPS that ease your steering maneuver when parking..
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EPS is available for both 1.6 premium and 2.0 right? i do agree with you 2.0 has more safety features. but i'm just curious to find out on the FC.

QUOTE(Ah_Bear @ Mar 4 2013, 07:21 PM)
Just wanna buy a good FC car.. ? sorry to say that Forte main selling point is not about frugal FC..

you wanna good FC car for city and highway, B-Segment aka subcompact sedan or small hatch like Fiesta and Swift is way to go.. but you will sacrifice on power, comfort and space..

bigger car smth like mid sized sedan ie: Mazda3, Corolla Altis, Forte, Civic will drinks more fuel which you may won't categorize it as "good" FC car like u expecting from Perodua Myvi/Viva FC's pattern. Mid size sedan drinks more fuel than B segments because of bigger engine, larger body size, larger rims and wider tires, heavier kerb weight..
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i think you got me wrong. it's common sense that cars like myvi, fiesta, vios, etc have much better FC compare to C segment cars. after all, it's totally 2 different category. What I really wanna know is whether my own "common sense" is right or wrong. Meaning my own understanding is that 1.6L should be more petrol saving in city drive (assuming not more than 3 ppl in Forte) compare to 2.0 in city drive. But my friend's understanding was 2.0L should be more petrol saving in city drive (assuming not more than 3 ppl in Forte) compare to 1.6L in city drive. Now, which one of us are right?

Let's make assumptions i'm the driver, use the same leg, same speed, same route, etc. all the same, and only comparison goes back to 1.6 vs 2.0. Which one have better FC? If 1.6L, for example, for a full tank, maybe it will not be more than 50km different? another example? I'm curious to find out.

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