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post Nov 13 2025, 04:32 PM

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QUOTE(MGM @ Nov 13 2025, 04:13 PM)
Can also add new nominees online n confirm at EPF machines too?
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Dont think it's an Add.

Consider redo.... can do it in the app, under Profile/ Nomination/ Register or View
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post Nov 13 2025, 04:59 PM

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QUOTE(Wedchar2912 @ Nov 13 2025, 02:25 PM)
should always try to get the employer to pay you the employer's contribution in the form of EPF contribution. It is tax free for you, the employee...
(so if at a high bracket like 25%, that saves you almosty 4% income tax based on gross salary)
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QUOTE(Ayambetul @ Nov 13 2025, 04:22 PM)
It subjected to income tax if the employer portion goes into salary.
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Yeah. I did not take the offer, but just want to share that employers usually already account for that EPF payment as part of our pay. I think some people will prefer own because they can directly spend the money. But for me I'm looking for more of a permanent role at that time.

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post Nov 13 2025, 05:20 PM

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QUOTE(victorian @ Nov 13 2025, 02:23 PM)
we do not live in an ideal world...

systems are in place for a reason...

if everyone just behave and don't commit crimes, we don't need police, right?
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This is obvious,... hence, I expressed my frank words,...
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post Nov 13 2025, 06:35 PM

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QUOTE(bombacat @ Nov 13 2025, 10:50 AM)
A scheme where you get "free" 12-13% from employers vs 0% by self employed are unattractive?
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Someone need to re-audit their maths in school.

Everyone knows employers contribution comes from "employee paycheck".

HR manager already took care of the calculation before making salary offer to any employee.

If the HR manager didn't include it, most likely, the boss won't keep him there very long
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post Nov 13 2025, 06:40 PM

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QUOTE(boyboycute @ Nov 13 2025, 06:35 PM)
Someone need to re-audit their maths in school.

Everyone knows employers contribution comes from "employee paycheck".

HR manager already took care of the calculation before making salary offer to any employee.

If the HR manager didn't include it, most likely, the boss won't keep him there very long
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Bro... have you been a hiring manager of a firm or an employer?

I have been a hiring manager... trust me... if can get away with underpaying the new hire, the firm would and all is fair....
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post Nov 13 2025, 06:57 PM

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can i ask for epf ,if my mum max self contribute herself ,her quota is consider full and if i max contribute from my side to her epf account ,is it based on my quota or her quota?
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post Nov 13 2025, 07:13 PM

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QUOTE(yungkit14 @ Nov 13 2025, 06:57 PM)
can i ask for epf ,if my mum max self contribute herself ,her quota is consider full and if i max contribute from my side to  her epf account  ,is it based on my quota or her quota?
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Nope... The quota is based on each member's respective account.
No transferable.
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post Nov 13 2025, 07:45 PM

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One side people maximize their 100k yearly limit, and keep asking for higher....

Another side, saying I'm not enough $$$ to survive monthly.... So seeking more withdrawal from EPF account....

One more side, why EPF shifting goal post.... Making those with 1mil above cannot withdraw their $$$....

Finally.... Another group of people keep saying why EPF giving so low dividend.... I want to withdraw & invest elsewhere that can outperform everything.....

Basically No one for all solutions.... Different people different opinions & objectives.....

btw... Still no news on Q3 2025 EPF results as for now....
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post Nov 13 2025, 08:14 PM

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QUOTE(Wedchar2912 @ Nov 13 2025, 07:13 PM)
Nope... The quota is based on each member's respective account.
No transferable.
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i see thanks
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post Nov 13 2025, 09:03 PM

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QUOTE(yungkit14 @ Nov 13 2025, 06:57 PM)
can i ask for epf ,if my mum max self contribute herself ,her quota is consider full and if i max contribute from my side to  her epf account  ,is it based on my quota or her quota?
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i can give u my account - my account is not full smile.gif
gov not that stupid to have such loophole
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post Nov 13 2025, 09:04 PM

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QUOTE(nexona88 @ Nov 13 2025, 07:45 PM)
One side people  maximize their 100k yearly limit, and keep asking for higher....

Another side, saying I'm not enough $$$ to survive monthly.... So seeking more withdrawal from EPF account....

One more side, why EPF shifting goal post.... Making  those with 1mil above cannot withdraw their $$$....

Finally.... Another group of people keep saying why EPF giving so low dividend.... I want to withdraw & invest elsewhere that can outperform everything.....

Basically No one for all solutions.... Different people different opinions & objectives.....

btw... Still no news on Q3 2025 EPF results as for now....
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remember post here once it is out
most likely next monday lo
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post Nov 13 2025, 09:13 PM

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QUOTE(nexona88 @ Nov 13 2025, 07:45 PM)
One side people  maximize their 100k yearly limit, and keep asking for higher....

Another side, saying I'm not enough $$$ to survive monthly.... So seeking more withdrawal from EPF account....

One more side, why EPF shifting goal post.... Making  those with 1mil above cannot withdraw their $$$....

Finally.... Another group of people keep saying why EPF giving so low dividend.... I want to withdraw & invest elsewhere that can outperform everything.....

Basically No one for all solutions.... Different people different opinions & objectives.....

btw... Still no news on Q3 2025 EPF results as for now....
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Despite all the noises

Come to the end we still see strong confidence in EPF from the spike in voluntary contribution
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post Nov 13 2025, 10:00 PM

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QUOTE(coolguy_0925 @ Nov 13 2025, 10:13 PM)
Despite all the noises

Come to the end we still see strong confidence in EPF from the spike in voluntary contribution
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yeah cuz in certain aspects EPF > all other investment forms
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post Nov 14 2025, 12:18 PM

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QUOTE(virtualgay @ Nov 13 2025, 09:03 PM)
i can give u my account - my account is not full smile.gif
gov not that stupid to have such loophole
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just saja trying. this loophole BNM sure jump geh with AML keke
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post Nov 14 2025, 03:13 PM

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QUOTE(coolguy_0925 @ Nov 13 2025, 09:13 PM)
Despite all the noises

Come to the end we still see strong confidence in EPF from the spike in voluntary contribution
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There are a lot of rich Malaysian that we all don't know saja

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post Nov 14 2025, 03:50 PM

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QUOTE(virtualgay @ Nov 14 2025, 03:13 PM)
There are a lot of rich Malaysian that we all don't know saja
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not talking about wealth

moreover if compared the number of individual with high deposit in EPF over Malaysian population is still very low

the influx is more on trust despite all the rumours and also recent decent payout vs other similar risk vehicles like another member mentioned above
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post Nov 14 2025, 03:56 PM

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QUOTE(coolguy_0925 @ Nov 14 2025, 03:50 PM)
not talking about wealth

moreover if compared the number of individual with high deposit in EPF over Malaysian population is still very low

the influx is more on trust despite all the rumours and also recent decent payout vs other similar risk vehicles like another member mentioned above
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Because of the 2% exemption for those div > 100K?
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post Nov 14 2025, 03:59 PM

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QUOTE(jasontoh @ Nov 14 2025, 03:56 PM)
Because of the 2% exemption for those div > 100K?
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vs FD

vs ASM

but at the cost of liquidity if below 55yo and RM1m+ balance
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post Nov 16 2025, 10:09 AM

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Just to confirm my understanding.

For >55yo conventional saving, no matter how much one withdraws and deposits, dividend is actually calculated daily based on the balance at the end of the day. But all dividend is only credited into account once per year.
Am I correct?

This post has been edited by Vickyle: Nov 16 2025, 10:11 AM
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post Nov 16 2025, 11:47 AM

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QUOTE(Vickyle @ Nov 16 2025, 10:09 AM)
Just to confirm my understanding.

For >55yo conventional saving, no matter how much one withdraws and deposits, dividend is actually calculated daily based on the balance at the end of the day. But all dividend is only credited into account once per year.
Am I correct?
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While waiting for value added responses, I googled and found this.
https://www.kwsp.gov.my/en/member/overview/benefits

Hope it can provides you with some info while you wait

This post has been edited by MUM: Nov 16 2025, 11:53 AM


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