STOCK MARKET DISCUSSION V128, YAT YEE FATT !!!!
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 Feb 6 2013, 05:13 PM, updated 13y ago
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Finally, a new house.
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Feb 6 2013, 05:16 PM
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2nd place!! never before!!
12FATT. Good sign to sit at front seat when fear are all around scare off most people.  This post has been edited by yok70: Feb 6 2013, 05:17 PM |
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Feb 6 2013, 05:17 PM
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Y2013 me looking forward to :
- relisting of Magnum - accumulation of IGB reit while everyone is complaining of low yield - the launching of second penang bridge - more new born snake babies - drink drank drunk & party hard |
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Feb 6 2013, 05:19 PM
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I shall take the 3rd place...
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Feb 6 2013, 05:20 PM
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QUOTE(panasonic88 @ Feb 6 2013, 05:17 PM) Y2013 me looking forward to : sounds like a fun plan! fun is the most important in life, isn't it? - relisting of Magnum - accumulation of IGB reit while everyone is complaining of low yield - the launching of second penang bridge - more new born snake babies - drink drank drunk & party hard   |
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Feb 6 2013, 05:21 PM
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QUOTE(Madbull @ Feb 6 2013, 05:19 PM) I shall take the 3rd place... LOL! Pana want reserve one seat for (future?) hubby. So half-ass sits one seat. This post has been edited by yok70: Feb 6 2013, 05:22 PM |
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QUOTE(panasonic88 @ Feb 6 2013, 05:17 PM) Y2013 me looking forward to : Same here..accumulating IGB reit.. - relisting of Magnum - accumulation of IGB reit while everyone is complaining of low yield - the launching of second penang bridge - more new born snake babies - drink drank drunk & party hard  |
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Feb 6 2013, 05:21 PM
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QUOTE(yok70 @ Feb 6 2013, 05:21 PM) LOL! i thought panasonic already paired with sonyPana want reserve one seat for (future?) hubby. So half-ass sits one seat. |
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Feb 6 2013, 05:25 PM
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 I long time no lipot early Gong Xi Fa Chai Thread |
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Feb 6 2013, 05:27 PM
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QUOTE(yok70 @ Feb 6 2013, 05:21 PM) LOL! Pana is already eying snake babies...Pana want reserve one seat for (future?) hubby. So half-ass sits one seat. Note: plural => twins or triplets |
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Feb 6 2013, 05:31 PM
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checking YAT YEE YAT YEE FATT
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Feb 6 2013, 05:32 PM
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QUOTE(river.sand @ Feb 6 2013, 05:27 PM) Pana is already eying snake babies... Note: plural => twins or triplets She will treat you eat red egg next year........... |
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Feb 6 2013, 05:34 PM
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QUOTE(StupidGuyPlayComp @ Feb 6 2013, 05:32 PM) She will treat you eat red egg next year...........This post has been edited by felixmask: Feb 6 2013, 05:35 PM |
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Feb 6 2013, 05:35 PM
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yeah..v128...fatt ar
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Feb 6 2013, 05:37 PM
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V128!!!
HUAT AR!!!! |
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Feb 6 2013, 05:41 PM
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Going back early for CNY to avoiding jam....wish every body early HAPPY Chinese Year and drive safety. This post has been edited by felixmask: Feb 6 2013, 05:46 PM |
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Feb 6 2013, 05:48 PM
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V 128 REIT look alike thread.......
Time to go hibernation to Cyberland in dream land  This post has been edited by SKY 1809: Feb 6 2013, 05:58 PM |
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Feb 6 2013, 05:49 PM
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Everyone Huat ar...Happy Chinese New Year!!
Happy Investing and good harvest for this year... |
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Feb 6 2013, 05:52 PM
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may i know CIMB brokerage charge is per transaction? Even for HK market?
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Feb 6 2013, 05:56 PM
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check in V128~
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Feb 6 2013, 06:57 PM
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Check in.
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Feb 6 2013, 07:39 PM
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Check in
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Feb 6 2013, 07:44 PM
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Check in
Nice V128 Victory Easy to Huat |
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Feb 6 2013, 07:44 PM
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QUOTE(river.sand @ Feb 6 2013, 05:27 PM) Pana is already eying snake babies... pana's snake babies means dividends i guess?..... Note: plural => twins or triplets |
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Feb 6 2013, 07:45 PM
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QUOTE(jy1905 @ Feb 6 2013, 05:22 PM) i thought panasonic already paired with sony already paired but not sure M&A completion yet or not. |
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Feb 6 2013, 07:51 PM
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Today close 1614.14.
Bad number |
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Feb 6 2013, 08:07 PM
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QUOTE(Myoswee @ Feb 6 2013, 07:51 PM) Today close 1614.14. Check in.Bad number Haha, nice number Would be even more tragic if 1614.44 |
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Feb 6 2013, 09:31 PM
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Check me in too
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Feb 6 2013, 09:47 PM
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1 2 8 -> easy to be rich ?
HUAT AR ! |
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Feb 6 2013, 10:49 PM
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Gong xi gong xi
A tips for giving good and cheap angpao that comes with good prosperity Inside put 4 digits of numbers (of a share counter)... Hahaha |
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Feb 6 2013, 11:00 PM
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any cscsteel shareholders here ?
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Feb 6 2013, 11:02 PM
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check in
Gong xi gong xi |
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Feb 6 2013, 11:55 PM
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Feb 7 2013, 08:28 AM
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Check in.
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Feb 7 2013, 09:04 AM
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 CI another 10p gone |
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Feb 7 2013, 09:12 AM
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say Hello to CI 15xx
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Feb 7 2013, 09:14 AM
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check
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Feb 7 2013, 09:32 AM
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CI turn to -2.73 only..........wooh
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Feb 7 2013, 09:44 AM
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rebounding CI
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Feb 7 2013, 09:44 AM
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from red to green, look like a tussle between institutional fund and foreign fund
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Feb 7 2013, 09:46 AM
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QUOTE(yhtan @ Feb 7 2013, 09:44 AM) from red to green, look like a tussle between institutional fund and foreign fund  1600 got support.............. |
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Feb 7 2013, 09:48 AM
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Feb 7 2013, 09:54 AM
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QUOTE(StupidGuyPlayComp @ Feb 7 2013, 09:46 AM) 1600 got support.............. QUOTE(OrangeStreet @ Feb 7 2013, 09:48 AM) Thanks  |
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Feb 7 2013, 10:02 AM
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wow, CAP just few day I saw trading at near RM1.00, some people also said good premium on IPO listing, but now....
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Feb 7 2013, 10:03 AM
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QUOTE(OrangeStreet @ Feb 7 2013, 09:48 AM) wow the chart shows a super sharp drop from Aug to Oct. Scary  |
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Feb 7 2013, 10:10 AM
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QUOTE(panasonic88 @ Feb 7 2013, 10:03 AM) wow the chart shows a super sharp drop from Aug to Oct. Scary what i can think of, that period could be aftermath of QE |
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Feb 7 2013, 10:16 AM
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QUOTE(panasonic88 @ Feb 7 2013, 10:03 AM) wow the chart shows a super sharp drop from Aug to Oct. Scary why worry, time to shop for more mar Missed the DIGI drop This post has been edited by SKY 1809: Feb 7 2013, 10:16 AM |
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Feb 7 2013, 10:16 AM
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QUOTE(cherroy @ Feb 7 2013, 10:02 AM) wow, CAP just few day I saw trading at near RM1.00, some people also said good premium on IPO listing, but now.... another tipu duit IPOsmall investor  big boss  |
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Feb 7 2013, 10:21 AM
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FGV 4.51
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Feb 7 2013, 10:34 AM
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QUOTE(Smurfs @ Feb 7 2013, 10:21 AM) FGV 4.51 There goes our epf money Dun expect high on 2013 EPF interest rate |
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Feb 7 2013, 10:38 AM
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Ooo.. MBF got taken over by HONG LEONG..
No more MBF liau |
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Feb 7 2013, 10:41 AM
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QUOTE(Bonescythe @ Feb 7 2013, 10:38 AM) Ooo.. MBF got taken over by HONG LEONG.. 50sen Offer for MBF W No more MBF liau  Kinda Happy Ending for MBF shareholders in this Year 2003 Reasonable privatization...... This post has been edited by SKY 1809: Feb 7 2013, 10:43 AM |
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Feb 7 2013, 10:47 AM
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QUOTE(SKY 1809 @ Feb 7 2013, 10:41 AM) 50sen Offer for MBF W Yea, not bad. Kinda Happy Ending for MBF shareholders in this Year 2003 Reasonable privatization...... RM 1.50 mother share. Not bad lar.. Lately Hong Leong very hot.. Keep on eating people only. |
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Feb 7 2013, 10:49 AM
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QUOTE(Bonescythe @ Feb 7 2013, 10:47 AM) Yea, not bad. MBF Boss takes it to private, Hong Leong just to adm the deals RM 1.50 mother share. Not bad lar.. Lately Hong Leong very hot.. Keep on eating people only. http://biz.thestar.com.my/news/story.asp?f...54&sec=business Maybe he make another rm One after taking it to private. But still fairer than the rest. This post has been edited by SKY 1809: Feb 7 2013, 10:51 AM |
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Feb 7 2013, 10:52 AM
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QUOTE(SKY 1809 @ Feb 7 2013, 10:49 AM) MBF Boss takes it to private, Hong Leong just to adm the deals Ohh.. I didn't read properly because just woke up and come and see see market..http://biz.thestar.com.my/news/story.asp?f...54&sec=business Maybe he make another rm One after taking it to private. But still fairer than the rest. So Hong Leong just administrating the deal lar.. |
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Feb 7 2013, 10:53 AM
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QUOTE(Bonescythe @ Feb 7 2013, 10:52 AM) Ohh.. I didn't read properly because just woke up and come and see see market.. NTA is still way above rm 2.50 , bulk in cash So Hong Leong just administrating the deal lar.. This post has been edited by SKY 1809: Feb 7 2013, 10:53 AM |
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Feb 7 2013, 10:53 AM
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Probably he will make another 30-50 cents after the take over.. But he already made a lot when the share goreng upwards, downwards and sideways.
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Feb 7 2013, 10:54 AM
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QUOTE(SKY 1809 @ Feb 7 2013, 10:53 AM) NTA is still way above rm 2.50 , bulk in cash Well, that is how big boys play their game lo.. |
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Feb 7 2013, 10:55 AM
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QUOTE(Bonescythe @ Feb 7 2013, 10:53 AM) Probably he will make another 30-50 cents after the take over.. But he already made a lot when the share goreng upwards, downwards and sideways. Ya lah , he sapu W way below 15sen...........mother share below 80sen ( bulk of them ).This post has been edited by SKY 1809: Feb 7 2013, 10:56 AM |
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Feb 7 2013, 10:59 AM
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QUOTE(SKY 1809 @ Feb 7 2013, 10:55 AM) Ya lah , he sapu W way below 15sen...........mother share below 80sen ( bulk of them ). Yea, the warrant, I am sure he make hell lots from there.From 5 cents to 40 cents, and then throw everything out again unitl 7.5 cents. And from there eat up again until 30 cents, then throw again to 20 cents. And when no more time left, poop poop poop.. 50 cents and privatize. |
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Feb 7 2013, 11:00 AM
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Bones and SKY rich liao, GONG XI FA CHAI |
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Feb 7 2013, 11:02 AM
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It took the MBF boss 1 year+ to play the market and take as much as he can, starting November 2011. Now February 2013.
Must be no time left as GE gonna strike soon. |
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Feb 7 2013, 11:05 AM
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QUOTE(Bonescythe @ Feb 7 2013, 11:02 AM) It took the MBF boss 1 year+ to play the market and take as much as he can, starting November 2011. Now February 2013. He cannot afford the W to expire with Zero value in coming months .......time bomb is ticking to him.Must be no time left as GE gonna strike soon. |
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Feb 7 2013, 11:06 AM
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QUOTE(SKY 1809 @ Feb 7 2013, 11:05 AM) He cannot afford the W to expire with Zero value in coming months .......time bomb is ticking to him. Hmm.. You are right also.Then he will have to pay additional already. Instead of 50 cents, pay RM 1.50 |
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Feb 7 2013, 11:27 AM
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Is MAS consider a good deal at current price?
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Feb 7 2013, 11:37 AM
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Woo...
CI back to green zone....... |
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Feb 7 2013, 12:07 PM
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very interesting movement .. strong support at 1600
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SP Setia suspended
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Feb 7 2013, 01:48 PM
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http://www.theedgemalaysia.com/business-ne...aster-risk.html
this fella said this is the first of three continuous fire years stock market will up until ping ping piang piang so now time to buy as much as possible btw, anyone still has the 2012 clsa chart? This post has been edited by jy1905: Feb 7 2013, 01:49 PM |
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Feb 7 2013, 02:15 PM
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wait after cny $$$
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Feb 7 2013, 03:32 PM
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Today volume really thin...........
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Feb 7 2013, 04:00 PM
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QUOTE(StupidGuyPlayComp @ Feb 7 2013, 03:32 PM) Today volume really thin........... vol low value high, means big funds playing. ikan bilis still hiding...  |
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QUOTE(cherroy @ Feb 7 2013, 10:02 AM) wow, CAP just few day I saw trading at near RM1.00, some people also said good premium on IPO listing, but now.... poor ikan bilis...  |
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Feb 7 2013, 04:43 PM
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tambun also rising liao..
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Feb 7 2013, 10:42 PM
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Check in.. Huat AR!!
Wish all lowyat forumers - A Happy & Prosperous Chinese New Year!!  Let's yam seng..Last day of trading [tomorrow] - Year of Dragon.. Let's welcome Year of SNAKE.. 1st day trading on Wednesday [13th Feb 2013] Huat!! Huat!!  How's come no smilies in prosperity god??  |
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Feb 7 2013, 11:22 PM
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QUOTE(Tycoon168 @ Feb 7 2013, 10:42 PM) Check in.. Huat AR!! Ya lor, only Christmas got. CNY not appreciated one. Wish all lowyat forumers - A Happy & Prosperous Chinese New Year!! Let's yam seng..Last day of trading [tomorrow] - Year of Dragon.. Let's welcome Year of SNAKE.. 1st day trading on Wednesday [13th Feb 2013] Huat!! Huat!! How's come no smilies in prosperity god?? |
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Feb 7 2013, 11:48 PM
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QUOTE(flamephotography @ Feb 7 2013, 11:37 AM) Woo... yeaaa!! it will be a on-off G-zone. Do something while you can.CI back to green zone....... I wish I was the one who kena the LP for 4-D |
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Feb 8 2013, 02:23 AM
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Some stocks have already corrected 25% from recent peak even though I am still expecting CI to reach 1520-1550 before stabilize.
Next week after CNY should be an interesting one. Either push up to take profit before GE crash or already starts the GE crash. We'll see. This post has been edited by yok70: Feb 8 2013, 02:25 AM |
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Feb 8 2013, 11:14 AM
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Moppy Check in new thread 128...
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Feb 8 2013, 11:14 AM
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Shud be crash de la
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Feb 8 2013, 11:17 AM
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very low volume..all holiday already?
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Feb 8 2013, 12:39 PM
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QUOTE(Smurfs @ Feb 8 2013, 11:17 AM) very low volume..all holiday already? pre-holiday combined with GE syndrome...  then got post-holiday with GE syndrome... i think more will sell into strength end of this month when more companies report earnings.... |
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Feb 8 2013, 01:22 PM
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QUOTE(mopster @ Feb 8 2013, 12:39 PM) pre-holiday combined with GE syndrome... then got post-holiday with GE syndrome... i think more will sell into strength end of this month when more companies report earnings....  wow, KLSE's prospect so bad............ |
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Feb 8 2013, 01:39 PM
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QUOTE(StupidGuyPlayComp @ Feb 8 2013, 01:22 PM) wow, KLSE's prospect so bad............ |
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Feb 8 2013, 04:16 PM
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another too low to sell, too high to buy day.
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Feb 8 2013, 05:24 PM
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Bought some tasek . Usually dividend in Febuary
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Feb 8 2013, 05:29 PM
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QUOTE(asambuffett @ Feb 8 2013, 05:24 PM) Bought some tasek . Usually dividend in Febuary Company normally give dividend is don care wat time or how long u hold the share, as long as u hold it before they give dividend right?Who knows they will declare total dividend 60c or80c |
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Feb 8 2013, 05:41 PM
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QUOTE(ben3003 @ Feb 8 2013, 05:29 PM) Company normally give dividend is don care wat time or how long u hold the share, as long as u hold it before they give dividend right? right. hold 1 minute also can get dividend. |
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Feb 8 2013, 05:44 PM
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QUOTE(yok70 @ Feb 8 2013, 05:41 PM) right. hold 1 minute also can get dividend. oh kk good good hehe.. |
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Feb 8 2013, 06:20 PM
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Malaysian Trades Union Congress (MTUC) is believed to have raised its
concerns over the investment strategies of the Employees Provident Fund (EPF), including its decision to hold a significant stake in Felda Global Ventures Holdings. The concerns were raised in its annual meeting held at EPF's headquarters. Meanwhile, another said said that the pension fund had agreed to pay out a dividend of above 6% for the year 2012. (Malaysian Reserve) Sigh! Our EPF money. |
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Feb 8 2013, 06:23 PM
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Checking in to this new thread
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Feb 8 2013, 07:13 PM
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QUOTE(Bonescythe @ Feb 8 2013, 11:14 AM) Shud be crash de la Do you think RSAWIT still good buy? |
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Feb 8 2013, 08:02 PM
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QUOTE(Newcastle @ Feb 8 2013, 07:13 PM) Do you think RSAWIT still good buy? yeah i am look at RSAWIT too.. |
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Feb 8 2013, 09:00 PM
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QUOTE(ben3003 @ Feb 8 2013, 08:02 PM) yeah i am look at RSAWIT too.. Don't I see you in MiriCommunity.net? |
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Feb 8 2013, 09:48 PM
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QUOTE(Eugene91 @ Feb 8 2013, 09:00 PM) Don't I see you in MiriCommunity.net? yeah i am in miricommunity, my fren |
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Feb 8 2013, 09:53 PM
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QUOTE(ben3003 @ Feb 8 2013, 09:48 PM) yeah i am in miricommunity, my fren Good to know another local trader |
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Feb 8 2013, 09:55 PM
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QUOTE(Eugene91 @ Feb 8 2013, 09:53 PM) Good to know another local trader I am currently looking at HK market, China bank dropping like flies, but i think will bounce back.. i am play safe type.. wan earn from dividend and some capital appreciation too ***** to play things like CAP, but CAP is bouncing back? maybe not bouncing back, stabilized gua.. 1st day kena goreng too much until Bursa ask them to give formal explanation lol..This post has been edited by ben3003: Feb 8 2013, 09:56 PM |
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Feb 8 2013, 10:01 PM
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QUOTE(ben3003 @ Feb 8 2013, 09:55 PM) I am currently looking at HK market, China bank dropping like flies, but i think will bounce back.. i am play safe type.. wan earn from dividend and some capital appreciation too ***** to play things like CAP, but CAP is bouncing back? maybe not bouncing back, stabilized gua.. 1st day kena goreng too much until Bursa ask them to give formal explanation lol.. |
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Feb 8 2013, 10:07 PM
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QUOTE(Eugene91 @ Feb 8 2013, 10:01 PM) I don't have a lot of capital to trade so aiming penny and 'cheap' RM1-RM2 stocks only. BTW, created a thread at MC.net lets see who else is there nice le.. mind to share ur portfolio? i also aim and buy penny and cheap stock only atm.. |
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Feb 8 2013, 10:18 PM
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No portfolio yet, i'm new here but there's a watch list I monitor. Here's a few.
JOHOTIN PANTECH ALAM PASUKGB SALCON DSCSOL (More of a gamble) Need opinion from others as well This post has been edited by Eugene91: Feb 8 2013, 10:18 PM |
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Feb 8 2013, 10:26 PM
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QUOTE(Eugene91 @ Feb 8 2013, 10:18 PM) No portfolio yet, i'm new here but there's a watch list I monitor. Here's a few. ohh.. all not in my watchlist lol. I believe Airasia will be a good buy, wait for it to drop maybe 2.5? haha.. My watchlist is all those standard la, maxis, digi, tm, GENP, KLCCP, SPSETIA, AXIATA. All i monitor them for GE.JOHOTIN PANTECH ALAM PASUKGB SALCON DSCSOL (More of a gamble) Need opinion from others as well |
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Feb 9 2013, 12:24 PM
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QUOTE(ben3003 @ Feb 8 2013, 10:26 PM) ohh.. all not in my watchlist lol. I believe Airasia will be a good buy, wait for it to drop maybe 2.5? haha.. My watchlist is all those standard la, maxis, digi, tm, GENP, KLCCP, SPSETIA, AXIATA. All i monitor them for GE. Hi Ben3003,My 2013 shopping also. Which one you going to pick & how? This post has been edited by felixmask: Feb 9 2013, 12:25 PM |
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Feb 9 2013, 12:57 PM
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QUOTE(Newcastle @ Feb 8 2013, 07:13 PM) Do you think RSAWIT still good buy? After election, should be a good one.. |
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Feb 9 2013, 01:44 PM
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QUOTE(felixmask @ Feb 9 2013, 12:24 PM) Hi Ben3003, KLSE everything depends on GE timing.. i believe after GE, result out, maybe stocks will be at the rock bottom, time to buy those u think it's fundementally strong. I believe Airasia, maxis, digi all is a good buy. Telco never runs out of business, unless 1 day u don wan to use mobile phone already, which i believe malaysia also collapse liao la haha.. HSI i think now abit too high, tho china banking sector dropping like flies, i bought some ABC shares tho.. just wanted to go for their dividend only. I am more towards dividend based shares for play safe, then put some eggs into those smaller one.My 2013 shopping also. Which one you going to pick & how? |
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Feb 9 2013, 02:27 PM
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QUOTE(ben3003 @ Feb 9 2013, 01:44 PM) KLSE everything depends on GE timing.. i believe after GE, result out, maybe stocks will be at the rock bottom, time to buy those u think it's fundementally strong. I believe Airasia, maxis, digi all is a good buy. Telco never runs out of business, unless 1 day u don wan to use mobile phone already, which i believe malaysia also collapse liao la haha.. HSI i think now abit too high, tho china banking sector dropping like flies, i bought some ABC shares tho.. just wanted to go for their dividend only. I am more towards dividend based shares for play safe, then put some eggs into those smaller one.  Agree with the Telco never run out of business. Can see those Gen-Y whatapp during family reunion dinner and lunch. Banking alot Financial Risk, it good to go when it go rock bottom for those are solid one. thank for your sharing. Happy CNY. |
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Feb 9 2013, 05:12 PM
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QUOTE(ben3003 @ Feb 9 2013, 01:44 PM) KLSE everything depends on GE timing.. i believe after GE, result out, maybe stocks will be at the rock bottom, time to buy those u think it's fundementally strong. I believe Airasia, maxis, digi all is a good buy. Telco never runs out of business, unless 1 day u don wan to use mobile phone already, which i believe malaysia also collapse liao la haha.. HSI i think now abit too high, tho china banking sector dropping like flies, i bought some ABC shares tho.. just wanted to go for their dividend only. I am more towards dividend based shares for play safe, then put some eggs into those smaller one. If you had done your research, you'll know that HK-listed China stocks are still very cheap. And sure, China banks' share prices dropped a bit recently but 'dropping like flies'? Hardly I bought plenty in 2H12...when HK stocks did drop like flies This post has been edited by Veda: Feb 9 2013, 05:14 PM |
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Feb 9 2013, 05:41 PM
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QUOTE(Veda @ Feb 9 2013, 05:12 PM) If you had done your research, you'll know that HK-listed China stocks are still very cheap. And sure, China banks' share prices dropped a bit recently but 'dropping like flies'? Hardly ok la i used some extravagant words I bought plenty in 2H12...when HK stocks did drop like flies Yup, China stocks are very cheap, compare banking sector to msia one, like PBE, which is overvalued by 2 times more thanks to ppl goreng. China one maybe 20% overvalue. Plus their market cap is bigger.So bro, why suddenly those HK listed china company share price dropped recently? becos of CNY ppl need money? lolz.. This post has been edited by ben3003: Feb 9 2013, 06:10 PM |
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QUOTE(ben3003 @ Feb 9 2013, 05:41 PM) ok la i used some extravagant words May I know at what PBV now china banks are trading in HK market? Thanks. Yup, China stocks are very cheap, compare banking sector to msia one, like PBE, which is overvalued by 2 times more thanks to ppl goreng. China one maybe 20% overvalue. Plus their market cap is bigger.So bro, why suddenly those HK listed china company share price dropped recently? becos of CNY ppl need money? lolz.. |
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Feb 10 2013, 06:59 AM
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Gong Xi Fa Cai. Everybody HUAT ah!
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Feb 10 2013, 07:12 AM
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QUOTE(ben3003 @ Feb 9 2013, 01:44 PM) KLSE everything depends on GE timing.. i believe after GE, result out, maybe stocks will be at the rock bottom, time to buy those u think it's fundementally strong. I believe Airasia, maxis, digi all is a good buy. Telco never runs out of business, unless 1 day u don wan to use mobile phone already, which i believe malaysia also collapse liao la haha.. HSI i think now abit too high, tho china banking sector dropping like flies, i bought some ABC shares tho.. just wanted to go for their dividend only. I am more towards dividend based shares for play safe, then put some eggs into those smaller one. For Maxis, what price are we looking at (expecting) to fall till after GE. |
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Feb 10 2013, 09:10 AM
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QUOTE(ben3003 @ Feb 9 2013, 05:41 PM) ok la i used some extravagant words Well said,Chinese Bank probably the cheapest bank but quality not too bad that I can found for blue chips around the world. 80% ++ of my portfolio are there Yup, China stocks are very cheap, compare banking sector to msia one, like PBE, which is overvalued by 2 times more thanks to ppl goreng. China one maybe 20% overvalue. Plus their market cap is bigger.So bro, why suddenly those HK listed china company share price dropped recently? becos of CNY ppl need money? lolz..  The reason of dropping,hmm.. I dunno .But from my observation, most foreign investor unwilling to buy those small H-shares, probvably due to poor corporate governance and a lot of scandal accounting. so those share pretty much owned by the chinese instead of of foreigner. so all have almost similar thinking . |
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Feb 10 2013, 10:42 AM
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QUOTE(yok70 @ Feb 10 2013, 03:51 AM) May I know at what PBV now china banks are trading in HK market? Thanks. U wanna know the volume per trade? I see alot block trades recently for ABC bank.. not much confident i can see but i see an upward crossover in MACD and RSI within the range, so hopefully it is a bullish run when stock market opens.QUOTE(TakoC @ Feb 10 2013, 07:12 AM) For Maxis, what price are we looking at (expecting) to fall till after GE. maybe something below 6? i guess it wont really drop until rock bottom, cos maxis is a strong company.QUOTE(foofoosasa @ Feb 10 2013, 09:10 AM) Well said,Chinese Bank probably the cheapest bank but quality not too bad that I can found for blue chips around the world. 80% ++ of my portfolio are there What i scare is i saw newspaper tis morning say china wan war with japan after cny >< but i believe sometimes chinese newspaper write until very big.. wan goreng ma haha.. The reason of dropping,hmm.. I dunno .But from my observation, most foreign investor unwilling to buy those small H-shares, probvably due to poor corporate governance and a lot of scandal accounting. so those share pretty much owned by the chinese instead of of foreigner. so all have almost similar thinking . |
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Feb 10 2013, 03:38 PM
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QUOTE(ben3003 @ Feb 9 2013, 05:41 PM) ok la i used some extravagant words I've no idea ... but corrections/dips after a strong run are perfectly normal. I'm fully invested (99% in overseas stocks) and my picks mostly blue chips, all fundamentally strong - so I no longer monitor them every day or week. Yup, China stocks are very cheap, compare banking sector to msia one, like PBE, which is overvalued by 2 times more thanks to ppl goreng. China one maybe 20% overvalue. Plus their market cap is bigger.So bro, why suddenly those HK listed china company share price dropped recently? becos of CNY ppl need money? lolz.. I see u are a TA guy. IMHO, ABC is not as fundamentally strong as the other Big 4 banks (higher NPL etc) but offers higher growth due to its exposure to rural areas. |
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Feb 10 2013, 04:00 PM
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QUOTE(Veda @ Feb 10 2013, 03:38 PM) I've no idea ... but corrections/dips after a strong run are perfectly normal. I'm fully invested (99% in overseas stocks) and my picks mostly blue chips, all fundamentally strong - so I no longer monitor them every day or week. oh i see.. cos other big 4 price is abit higher.. but i think i will diversify abit.. maybe go for other big 4. Btw what other sector should i go into for HK market? I heard they say their property or construction is good.. but dunno which one i should be looking at..I see u are a TA guy. IMHO, ABC is not as fundamentally strong as the other Big 4 banks (higher NPL etc) but offers higher growth due to its exposure to rural areas. |
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Feb 10 2013, 04:13 PM
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Firstly Gung Hei Fatt Choi
Just wondering, how do we know this stock is government link company or not? Can someone confirm these 4 is GLC or not? PRESBHD, SKPRES, HUAYANG, HSL |
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Feb 10 2013, 05:38 PM
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QUOTE(ben3003 @ Feb 10 2013, 04:00 PM) oh i see.. cos other big 4 price is abit higher.. but i think i will diversify abit.. maybe go for other big 4. Btw what other sector should i go into for HK market? I heard they say their property or construction is good.. but dunno which one i should be looking at.. You might want to do some research on consumer discretionary stocks and government-linked construction stocks .... then decide on your own whether to buy |
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Feb 10 2013, 05:43 PM
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QUOTE(Veda @ Feb 10 2013, 05:38 PM) You might want to do some research on consumer discretionary stocks and government-linked construction stocks .... then decide on your own whether to buy okies thanks alot bro gonna look up for those sector |
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Feb 10 2013, 06:48 PM
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QUOTE(Veda @ Feb 10 2013, 03:38 PM) I've no idea ... but corrections/dips after a strong run are perfectly normal. I'm fully invested (99% in overseas stocks) and my picks mostly blue chips, all fundamentally strong - so I no longer monitor them every day or week. Which 4 fundamentally strong banks you are in?I see u are a TA guy. IMHO, ABC is not as fundamentally strong as the other Big 4 banks (higher NPL etc) but offers higher growth due to its exposure to rural areas. What do you think of CCBC? |
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Feb 10 2013, 06:49 PM
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QUOTE(ben3003 @ Feb 10 2013, 10:42 AM) U wanna know the volume per trade? I see alot block trades recently for ABC bank.. not much confident i can see but i see an upward crossover in MACD and RSI within the range, so hopefully it is a bullish run when stock market opens. No. I was asking about PBV, price book value ratio. |
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Feb 10 2013, 07:49 PM
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QUOTE(Veda @ Feb 10 2013, 03:38 PM) I've no idea ... but corrections/dips after a strong run are perfectly normal. I'm fully invested (99% in overseas stocks) and my picks mostly blue chips, all fundamentally strong - so I no longer monitor them every day or week. I guess our portfolio pretty much similar then. I see u are a TA guy. IMHO, ABC is not as fundamentally strong as the other Big 4 banks (higher NPL etc) but offers higher growth due to its exposure to rural areas. |
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Feb 10 2013, 10:13 PM
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QUOTE(yok70 @ Feb 10 2013, 06:48 PM) Which 4 fundamentally strong banks you are in? I'm not familiar with CCBC ... do u mean CCB? What do you think of CCBC? For privacy reasons, I don't want to list out the stocks in my portfolio. But .... ICBC and CCB are both very profitable (ROEs of > 20%), and they are simply "too important to fail" Their current dividend payout ratio is 35% .... market speculation (note: speculation) has it this will increased to 40% and eventually 50% in 2014. I think this is possible |
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Feb 10 2013, 10:30 PM
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QUOTE(foofoosasa @ Feb 10 2013, 07:49 PM) I guess our portfolio pretty much similar then. Except my portfolio is not so heavily concentrated in financials |
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Feb 10 2013, 10:58 PM
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QUOTE(Veda @ Feb 10 2013, 10:13 PM) I'm not familiar with CCBC ... do u mean CCB? How do they actually count the ROE? does it include capital gain and also dividend?For privacy reasons, I don't want to list out the stocks in my portfolio. But .... ICBC and CCB are both very profitable (ROEs of > 20%), and they are simply "too important to fail" Their current dividend payout ratio is 35% .... market speculation (note: speculation) has it this will increased to 40% and eventually 50% in 2014. I think this is possible |
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Feb 10 2013, 11:09 PM
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QUOTE(Veda @ Feb 10 2013, 10:30 PM) Except my portfolio is not so heavily concentrated in financials Any bargain beside banks? probably insurance and some telco H-share? |
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Feb 10 2013, 11:32 PM
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QUOTE(ben3003 @ Feb 10 2013, 10:58 PM) How do they actually count the ROE? does it include capital gain and also dividend? Here u go:http://www.investopedia.com/terms/r/return...p#axzz2KUFYiih8 |
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Feb 11 2013, 12:01 AM
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QUOTE(foofoosasa @ Feb 10 2013, 11:09 PM) Any bargain beside banks? probably insurance and some telco H-share? Some consumer discretionary, construction and retail/supermarket stocks may be worth considering |
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Feb 11 2013, 02:47 AM
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QUOTE(Veda @ Feb 10 2013, 10:13 PM) I'm not familiar with CCBC ... do u mean CCB? I'm not sure CCB or CCBC, I mean China Construction Bank Corporation. For privacy reasons, I don't want to list out the stocks in my portfolio. But .... ICBC and CCB are both very profitable (ROEs of > 20%), and they are simply "too important to fail" Their current dividend payout ratio is 35% .... market speculation (note: speculation) has it this will increased to 40% and eventually 50% in 2014. I think this is possible |
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QUOTE(yok70 @ Feb 11 2013, 02:47 AM) I'm not sure CCB or CCBC, I mean China Construction Bank Corporation. Is CCB. |
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Feb 11 2013, 08:16 AM
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QUOTE(Veda @ Feb 11 2013, 12:01 AM) Some consumer discretionary, construction and retail/supermarket stocks may be worth considering OH yea, I forgot about retail and supermarket. I do own them too. For consumer,I only owned very few of them because I think most people hoarding their cash into these stocks. Whilr for construction stock, not really interested... |
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Feb 11 2013, 08:28 AM
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QUOTE(yok70 @ Feb 10 2013, 06:49 PM) No. I was asking about PBV, price book value ratio. Yok, from bloomberg data, it is about 1.3.But for me, uncle buffet once taught us, quote "you no need to know a women's age by telling whether she is old or not". I think these bank are quite cheap without even value them seriously. The most important is people understand the downward risk of bank. Beside all the Non performing loan (hardly to tell now,because banks tends doing good when economy good, but bad during people unable to pay loans) issues, Basel 3 will challenge some of the bank's reserve requirement because some of them are overstated due to unqualified capital such as preferred shared is included in their reserve calculation. Other issues such as convertible bond, while convertible at the premium of these stock certain % of price, will diluting the existing holder. Just make sure those those convertible are not issued price that are too low and with large quantity. Hope these help This post has been edited by foofoosasa: Feb 11 2013, 08:28 AM |
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interesting article from "Focus Malaysia", a serious contender to "The Edge",
Curse of the skyscrapers Empire State Building (1953) - this iconic building was completed against the backdrop of a city and nation in the grip of the Great Depression Sears Tower (1974) - the oil shocks that rocked the US and the dropping of the greenback's peg to gold were marked by the completion of the Sears Tower Petronas Twin Tower (1997) - The Asian financial crisis was heralded by the completion of Malaysia's Petronas Towers Taipei 101 Taiwan (2004) - the building stood tall but Taiwan followed Hong Kong, Japan and Singapore into recession and saw the end of the technology bubble Burj Khalifa Dubai (2009) - the current tallest building was completed just before the dramatic crash that nearly bankrupted the tiny emirate The Shard (2012) - it was completed just in time to witness the worsening of the eurozone debt crisis Freedom Tower (2013) -the completion of the World Trade Center's replacement will come smack between the US fiscal cliff and the debt ceiling as the world's biggest economy slides towards an impending recession Menara Wawasan (Malaysia) - expected completion in 2015 ....will a recession follows ???? This post has been edited by Oracles99: Feb 11 2013, 10:38 PM |
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QUOTE(foofoosasa @ Feb 11 2013, 08:28 AM) Yok, from bloomberg data, it is about 1.3. Thanks for your info and comments. But for me, uncle buffet once taught us, quote "you no need to know a women's age by telling whether she is old or not". I think these bank are quite cheap without even value them seriously. The most important is people understand the downward risk of bank. Beside all the Non performing loan (hardly to tell now,because banks tends doing good when economy good, but bad during people unable to pay loans) issues, Basel 3 will challenge some of the bank's reserve requirement because some of them are overstated due to unqualified capital such as preferred shared is included in their reserve calculation. Other issues such as convertible bond, while convertible at the premium of these stock certain % of price, will diluting the existing holder. Just make sure those those convertible are not issued price that are too low and with large quantity. Hope these help |
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QUOTE(Oracles99 @ Feb 11 2013, 06:44 PM) interesting article from "Focus Malaysia", a serious contender to "The Edge", Haha, superstitious. Curse of the skyscrapers Empire State Building (1953) - this iconic building was completed against the backdrop of a city and nation in the grip of the Great Depression Sears Tower (1974) - the oil shocks that rocked the US and the dropping of the greenback's peg to gold were marked by the completion of the Sears Tower Petronas Twin Tower (1997) - The Asian financial crisis was heralded by the completion of Malaysia's Petronas Towers Taipei 101 Taiwan (2004) - the building stood tall but Taiwan followed Hong Kong, Japan and Singapore into recession and saw the end of the technology bubble Burj Khalifa Dubai (2009) - the current tallest building was completed just before the dramatic crash that nearly bankrupted the tiny emirate The Shard (2012) - it was completed just in time to witness the worsening of the eurozone debt crisis Freedom Tower (2013) -the completion of the World Trade Center's replacement will come smack between the US fiscal cliff and the debt ceiling as the world's biggest economy slides towards an impending recession Menara Wawasan (Malaysia) - expected completion in 2015 ....will a recession follows ???? But then if complete in 2015 or 2016, a financial crisis will be imminent. Wise people always tell me the cycle repeats every 10 years, so 1998 - 2008/09 - 2018/19 |
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QUOTE(Oracles99 @ Feb 11 2013, 07:44 PM) interesting article from "Focus Malaysia", a serious contender to "The Edge", looks like the crash affect its own country the most where the skyscraper was built. when the Menara Wawasan is nearing completion, maybe another version of George Soros would appear from nowhere.Curse of the skyscrapers Empire State Building (1953) - this iconic building was completed against the backdrop of a city and nation in the grip of the Great Depression Sears Tower (1974) - the oil shocks that rocked the US and the dropping of the greenback's peg to gold were marked by the completion of the Sears Tower Petronas Twin Tower (1997) - The Asian financial crisis was heralded by the completion of Malaysia's Petronas Towers Taipei 101 Taiwan (2004) - the building stood tall but Taiwan followed Hong Kong, Japan and Singapore into recession and saw the end of the technology bubble Burj Khalifa Dubai (2009) - the current tallest building was completed just before the dramatic crash that nearly bankrupted the tiny emirate The Shard (2012) - it was completed just in time to witness the worsening of the eurozone debt crisis Freedom Tower (2013) -the completion of the World Trade Center's replacement will come smack between the US fiscal cliff and the debt ceiling as the world's biggest economy slides towards an impending recession Menara Wawasan (Malaysia) - expected completion in 2015 ....will a recession follows ???? |
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QUOTE(Oracles99 @ Feb 11 2013, 06:44 PM) interesting article from "Focus Malaysia", a serious contender to "The Edge", With or without Menara Wawasan, Malaysia sure will have some financial related problems in next 3 -5 years Curse of the skyscrapers Empire State Building (1953) - this iconic building was completed against the backdrop of a city and nation in the grip of the Great Depression Sears Tower (1974) - the oil shocks that rocked the US and the dropping of the greenback's peg to gold were marked by the completion of the Sears Tower Petronas Twin Tower (1997) - The Asian financial crisis was heralded by the completion of Malaysia's Petronas Towers Taipei 101 Taiwan (2004) - the building stood tall but Taiwan followed Hong Kong, Japan and Singapore into recession and saw the end of the technology bubble Burj Khalifa Dubai (2009) - the current tallest building was completed just before the dramatic crash that nearly bankrupted the tiny emirate The Shard (2012) - it was completed just in time to witness the worsening of the eurozone debt crisis Freedom Tower (2013) -the completion of the World Trade Center's replacement will come smack between the US fiscal cliff and the debt ceiling as the world's biggest economy slides towards an impending recession Menara Wawasan (Malaysia) - expected completion in 2015 ....will a recession follows ???? |
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Feb 12 2013, 05:22 PM
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QUOTE(primepeng @ Feb 12 2013, 11:57 AM) looks like the crash affect its own country the most where the skyscraper was built. when the Menara Wawasan is nearing completion, maybe another version of George Soros would appear from nowhere. George Jr. Soros |
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Feb 13 2013, 09:17 AM
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everyone must be still bz holidaying.
market up 8pts but don't feel a thing guess me too back to holidaying |
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Feb 13 2013, 09:23 AM
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so many up today.. may i know where can i obtain the very update chart for bursa? that i can see like today de chart..
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Feb 13 2013, 09:42 AM
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The volume is so thin on the first day on Snake year
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Feb 13 2013, 09:56 AM
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everyone still busy 拜年 i believe
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Top gainers all on thin volume.
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Something cooking with Compugt??
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Woo...
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SPSetia cheong ahh
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Feb 13 2013, 05:29 PM
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Hi guys! ! Gong hei fatt choy!!
Im new to here. Yet to start "play" but been monitor the market for few months. Currently my watchlist: Csl (for stable dividend) Compugt Spsetia Maxis Digi Axiata. Any advise? Btw im not VERY risk taker.. lol |
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Feb 14 2013, 12:39 AM
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QUOTE(ben3003 @ Feb 9 2013, 01:44 PM) KLSE everything depends on GE timing.. i believe after GE, result out, maybe stocks will be at the rock bottom, time to buy those u think it's fundementally strong. I believe Airasia, maxis, digi all is a good buy. Telco never runs out of business, unless 1 day u don wan to use mobile phone already, which i believe malaysia also collapse liao la haha.. HSI i think now abit too high, tho china banking sector dropping like flies, i bought some ABC shares tho.. just wanted to go for their dividend only. I am more towards dividend based shares for play safe, then put some eggs into those smaller one. I agreed with have bro ben3003 mentioned. Telco business is much more stable compare to others. My opinion here, try to choose shares which related with politician or government link. Anyhow i did support and brought AirAsia. Everyone can fly.... |
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Feb 14 2013, 01:29 AM
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QUOTE(simon7788 @ Feb 14 2013, 12:39 AM) I agreed with have bro ben3003 mentioned. Telco business is much more stable compare to others. My opinion here, try to choose shares which related with politician or government link. airasia is good, i believe tony fernandez is a very good businessman. see their stock now flying abit.. only if i have enuf capital lol..Anyhow i did support and brought AirAsia. Everyone can fly.... |
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Feb 14 2013, 08:52 AM
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QUOTE(rickk @ Feb 13 2013, 05:29 PM) Hi guys! ! Gong hei fatt choy!! Telco stocks are good, but make sure you buy at right prices Im new to here. Yet to start "play" but been monitor the market for few months. Currently my watchlist: Csl (for stable dividend) Compugt Spsetia Maxis Digi Axiata. Any advise? Btw im not VERY risk taker.. lol |
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Feb 14 2013, 09:05 AM
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airasia fly arr.............huat ar..
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Feb 14 2013, 10:47 AM
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QUOTE(rickk @ Feb 13 2013, 05:29 PM) Hi guys! ! Gong hei fatt choy!! CSL = china stationery limited?Im new to here. Yet to start "play" but been monitor the market for few months. Currently my watchlist: Csl (for stable dividend) Compugt Spsetia Maxis Digi Axiata. Any advise? Btw im not VERY risk taker.. lol My advise is to look at telco stock for prudent investor |
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Feb 14 2013, 11:02 AM
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wah, the volume made me sleepy today. want to trade something...
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Feb 14 2013, 11:05 AM
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QUOTE(foofoosasa @ Feb 14 2013, 11:02 AM) wah, the volume made me sleepy today. want to trade something... Got tips kah, Brother Happy CNY |
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Feb 14 2013, 11:22 AM
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QUOTE(SKY 1809 @ Feb 14 2013, 11:05 AM) Got tips kah, Brother No tips la, Just want to trade something for fun. Happy CNY Actually this question is suppose I ask you but see the volume aiyo  |
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Feb 14 2013, 11:37 AM
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QUOTE(foofoosasa @ Feb 14 2013, 11:22 AM) No tips la, Just want to trade something for fun. wow someone sapu Digi in 16000 lots Actually this question is suppose I ask you but see the volume aiyo Kinda insider trading UEM is also not bad.......... This post has been edited by SKY 1809: Feb 14 2013, 11:38 AM |
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Feb 14 2013, 11:45 AM
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QUOTE(SKY 1809 @ Feb 14 2013, 11:37 AM) wow someone sapu Digi in 16000 lots ok noted sifu Kinda insider trading UEM is also not bad.......... |
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Feb 14 2013, 12:27 PM
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C'mon... why no election panic sell yet?
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Feb 14 2013, 02:32 PM
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puncak is coming?
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Feb 14 2013, 04:55 PM
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Forum jammed?
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Feb 14 2013, 07:11 PM
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KPS makan KHSB...
Memang gao gao |
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Feb 14 2013, 09:32 PM
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QUOTE(Bonescythe @ Feb 14 2013, 07:11 PM) KPS makan KHSB... Wat happen to me if I got a lot?n any advice for this? Memang gao gao |
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Feb 14 2013, 11:50 PM
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QUOTE(Bonescythe @ Feb 14 2013, 07:11 PM) KPS makan KHSB... rm193M extra cash position for kps.Memang gao gao might give special divvy or might just clear some of their loans. This post has been edited by asambuffett: Feb 15 2013, 12:00 PM |
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Feb 15 2013, 09:09 AM
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Ah ha!
Lovely valentine letter dated 14/2/13 by MPHB 3859 MPHB MULTI-PURPOSE HOLDINGS BHD MULTIPLE PROPOSALS MULTI-PURPOSE HOLDINGS BERHAD (MPHB OR THE COMPANY) I. PROPOSED DEMERGER OF MPHB AND ITS SUBSIDIARIES; II. PROPOSED CAPITAL REPAYMENT TO THE SHAREHOLDERS OF MPHB; AND III. PROPOSED NAME CHANGE |
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Feb 15 2013, 09:37 AM
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QUOTE(panasonic88 @ Feb 15 2013, 09:09 AM) Ah ha! Morning panasonic88Lovely valentine letter dated 14/2/13 by MPHB 3859 MPHB MULTI-PURPOSE HOLDINGS BHD MULTIPLE PROPOSALS MULTI-PURPOSE HOLDINGS BERHAD (MPHB OR THE COMPANY) I. PROPOSED DEMERGER OF MPHB AND ITS SUBSIDIARIES; II. PROPOSED CAPITAL REPAYMENT TO THE SHAREHOLDERS OF MPHB; AND III. PROPOSED NAME CHANGE Y esterday and this morning busy of works, didnt notice the MPHB announcement. Still can join the ship? This post has been edited by felixmask: Feb 15 2013, 09:38 AM |
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Feb 15 2013, 09:52 AM
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JAKS today?
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Feb 15 2013, 11:58 AM
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http://biz.thestar.com.my/news/story.asp?f...00&sec=business
kdeb offer to buy khsb for 76cent. why khsb price is only about 64cents? This post has been edited by asambuffett: Feb 15 2013, 11:59 AM |
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Feb 15 2013, 12:02 PM
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QUOTE(dosnx @ Feb 15 2013, 09:52 AM) JAKS today? why jaks? |
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Feb 15 2013, 12:22 PM
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QUOTE(asambuffett @ Feb 15 2013, 11:58 AM) http://biz.thestar.com.my/news/story.asp?f...00&sec=business If you buy the news, then you buy the share lo kdeb offer to buy khsb for 76cent. why khsb price is only about 64cents? |
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Feb 15 2013, 02:53 PM
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QUOTE(Bonescythe @ Feb 15 2013, 12:22 PM) If you buy the news, then you buy the share lo ooo, people dun think it will happen is it? |
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Feb 15 2013, 04:26 PM
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how's everything? time to go in now or one month later?
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Feb 15 2013, 04:29 PM
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QUOTE(ngaisteve1 @ Feb 15 2013, 04:26 PM) how's everything? time to go in now or one month later? After GE? |
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Feb 15 2013, 04:33 PM
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QUOTE(CP88 @ Feb 15 2013, 05:29 PM) After GE? after GE everything will fly already or not? |
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Feb 15 2013, 04:40 PM
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QUOTE(yhtan @ Feb 14 2013, 10:47 AM) CSL = china stationery limited? Yes.. My advise is to look at telco stock for prudent investor QUOTE(ngaisteve1 @ Feb 15 2013, 04:33 PM) after GE everything will fly already or not? Wonder that too... preparing bullet haha |
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Feb 15 2013, 04:44 PM
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QUOTE(ngaisteve1 @ Feb 15 2013, 04:33 PM) after GE everything will fly already or not? actually i think will drop further for some time before it can fly if PR wins. if PR announce cheaper imported cars, free education, abolish toll, etc etc. alot of those promises have negative impact on quite a lot of listed company. so its either rakyat or giant coperations |
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Feb 15 2013, 04:45 PM
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QUOTE(ham_revilo @ Feb 15 2013, 05:44 PM) actually i think will drop further for some time before it can fly if PR wins. ic, like that then better buy on the first day after GE. if PR announce cheaper imported cars, free education, abolish toll, etc etc. alot of those promises have negative impact on quite a lot of listed company. so its either rakyat or giant coperations |
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Feb 15 2013, 04:57 PM
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QUOTE(ngaisteve1 @ Feb 15 2013, 04:45 PM) ic, like that then better buy on the first day after GE. good idea to see after GE.... |
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Feb 15 2013, 05:36 PM
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QUOTE(ham_revilo @ Feb 15 2013, 04:44 PM) actually i think will drop further for some time before it can fly if PR wins. Free wifi will also have an impact on the telcos if PR announce cheaper imported cars, free education, abolish toll, etc etc. alot of those promises have negative impact on quite a lot of listed company. so its either rakyat or giant coperations |
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Feb 15 2013, 06:27 PM
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QUOTE(ham_revilo @ Feb 15 2013, 04:44 PM) actually i think will drop further for some time before it can fly if PR wins. i always doubt what the politicians saidif PR announce cheaper imported cars, free education, abolish toll, etc etc. alot of those promises have negative impact on quite a lot of listed company. so its either rakyat or giant coperations if they can be trusted, pig mother can climb the tree |
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Feb 15 2013, 09:07 PM
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today is L&G day
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Feb 15 2013, 09:34 PM
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QUOTE(ham_revilo @ Feb 15 2013, 04:44 PM) actually i think will drop further for some time before it can fly if PR wins. If BN wins, whatever rubbish company also can fly if PR announce cheaper imported cars, free education, abolish toll, etc etc. alot of those promises have negative impact on quite a lot of listed company. so its either rakyat or giant coperations |
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Feb 15 2013, 09:48 PM
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QUOTE(ham_revilo @ Feb 15 2013, 04:44 PM) actually i think will drop further for some time before it can fly if PR wins. If BN wins, whatever rubbish company also can fly if PR announce cheaper imported cars, free education, abolish toll, etc etc. alot of those promises have negative impact on quite a lot of listed company. so its either rakyat or giant coperations |
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Feb 15 2013, 09:51 PM
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QUOTE(Icehart @ Feb 15 2013, 09:48 PM) If BN wins, whatever rubbish company also can fly even ppl like us also can fly |
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Feb 15 2013, 10:01 PM
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QUOTE(ngaisteve1 @ Feb 15 2013, 04:45 PM) ic, like that then better buy on the first day after GE. i think you can only buy if BN wins. |
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Feb 15 2013, 10:07 PM
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QUOTE(ham_revilo @ Feb 15 2013, 10:01 PM) i think you can only buy if BN wins. i heard BN got backup plan, if BN lose, they will stage a riot, nationwide, then announce martial law, then they take back again. |
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Feb 15 2013, 10:14 PM
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QUOTE(ben3003 @ Feb 15 2013, 10:07 PM) i heard BN got backup plan, if BN lose, they will stage a riot, nationwide, then announce martial law, then they take back again. That is when our Yang Di-Pertuan Agong steps in and decide whether to announce martial law or not. Whatever the result of the election, it's the voice of the majority people. |
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Feb 15 2013, 10:20 PM
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QUOTE(Icehart @ Feb 15 2013, 10:14 PM) That is when our Yang Di-Pertuan Agong steps in and decide whether to announce martial law or not. Whatever the result of the election, it's the voice of the majority people. our YDPA looks weak in terms of authority, all is control by BN also, that is the saddest thing in msia. anyway, that's just a rumor, hopefully it isnt real anyway, PASUKGB looks good today, too bad din ride the boat, not enuf trading limit lol.. |
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Feb 15 2013, 10:26 PM
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QUOTE(ben3003 @ Feb 15 2013, 10:07 PM) i heard BN got backup plan, if BN lose, they will stage a riot, nationwide, then announce martial law, then they take back again. thats the reason why i cash out since last year december and only short the market. coming GE is not going to be pleasant to the market. even if BN wins but by a slim number, still market may slide. imo, only way to get a clear up signal is BN wins 2/3 in parliament |
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Feb 15 2013, 10:43 PM
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QUOTE(ben3003 @ Feb 15 2013, 10:07 PM) i heard BN got backup plan, if BN lose, they will stage a riot, nationwide, then announce martial law, then they take back again. our Militarily under AhGong power not Prime Monster power. and those BeeN hv bride AhGong with the $$$ and economic promise.If PeeKR win, and BeeN plan a riot and blame PeeKR the AhGong can use Military to topple PeeKR. * note- forgive:respect: forgive me is any my word i have to useeeeee key work else MATA MATA come to visit me. |
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Feb 15 2013, 10:49 PM
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QUOTE(ben3003 @ Feb 15 2013, 10:20 PM) our YDPA looks weak in terms of authority, all is control by BN also, that is the saddest thing in msia. anyway, that's just a rumor, hopefully it isnt real Told you. anyway, PASUKGB looks good today, too bad din ride the boat, not enuf trading limit lol.. I guess those hear/say rumors by some at i3investor and investlah came true  Suddenly last minute got goreng up Hopefully next week goreng some more This post has been edited by Eugene91: Feb 15 2013, 10:50 PM |
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Feb 15 2013, 11:22 PM
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QUOTE(Icehart @ Feb 15 2013, 09:48 PM) If BN wins, whatever rubbish company also can fly Got one company whose name is like Garbage. Gbgaqrs What a rubbish name |
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Feb 15 2013, 11:29 PM
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Since you mentioned GBGAQRS.
Copy paste: » Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... « Source: http://klse.i3investor.com/servlets/forum/...2592.jsp?ftp=13 Hopefully it's true This post has been edited by Eugene91: Feb 15 2013, 11:29 PM |
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Feb 15 2013, 11:35 PM
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So buy Pasukgb or don't buy?
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Feb 15 2013, 11:40 PM
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Bought at 0.18.
Now in a dilemma to sell for capital gain (if it goes 0.21-0.25 next week) OR hold for this unverified 'news' OR sell and buy again? Don't know to recommend buy or not. T.A. looks good to me (my T.A. basic only so....). This post has been edited by Eugene91: Feb 15 2013, 11:40 PM |
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Feb 15 2013, 11:40 PM
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Profit then run lor
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Feb 15 2013, 11:41 PM
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Bishop Ng is correct. This time around voters are more aware and wise. They would not simply give 2/3 majority either to BN or Pakatan
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Feb 16 2013, 08:39 AM
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QUOTE(Oracles99 @ Feb 15 2013, 11:41 PM) Bishop Ng is correct. This time around voters are more aware and wise. They would not simply give 2/3 majority either to BN or Pakatan If no party get 2/3, it will be a miserable 5 years for Malaysia. Important thing in parlimen need 2/3 votes. Hence if no 2/3, Malaysia is not a country anymore. |
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Feb 16 2013, 11:43 PM
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QUOTE(H86 @ Feb 16 2013, 08:39 AM) If no party get 2/3, it will be a miserable 5 years for Malaysia. Important thing in parlimen need 2/3 votes. Hence if no 2/3, Malaysia is not a country anymore. The present BN government does not have 2/3 majority. Hence, Malaysia is not a country anymore ????????? Bear in mind 2/3 majority is a double edged sword. It is easily open to abuse and this has been going on for the past 55 years.This post has been edited by Oracles99: Feb 16 2013, 11:46 PM |
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Feb 17 2013, 03:23 PM
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QUOTE(Oracles99 @ Feb 16 2013, 11:43 PM) The present BN government does not have 2/3 majority. Hence, Malaysia is not a country anymore ????????? Bear in mind 2/3 majority is a double edged sword. It is easily open to abuse and this has been going on for the past 55 years. agreed, it is like giving someone the power to implement anything they like. if gov is formed only with simple majority(>51%), then support from other party is needed for major changes,so either side can be restricted on self interest policies. |
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Feb 17 2013, 03:50 PM
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the problem is how voters know or decide not to give 2/3 majority? In which area we need to vote for party A or B?
Is more a about 2 parties system, if the ruling party have 2/3 majority, and implement rubbish policies, then we need to voted them out in the next election. They need to listen to majority of rakyat, and implement policy for the best of rakyat, not for own party. |
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Feb 17 2013, 05:13 PM
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i think pkr is not ready to form the fed gov yet based on the intra-coalition issues
but it can serve as a counter check to deny bn of 2/3 majority just my 2 cents |
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Feb 17 2013, 07:03 PM
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Most of the voters now assume BN would win due to electoral roll revelations, Sabah RCI etc. So, it is not hard to guess how the voters would vote. So they say, a few more opposition won't hurt such BN is still the government.
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Feb 17 2013, 08:57 PM
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If no coalition wins 2/3 majority, it could be difficult for the government for implement new policies - until BN & PKR learn to work together.
The problem in Malaysia is that all politicians must toe the party line. By comparison, their American counterparts have a lot more freedom. For example, former President Bush was pro-Big Oils, but California, under Governor Arnold, continued to push for green energy. Both Bush and Arnold were Republicans. |
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Feb 17 2013, 09:54 PM
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I agree. The ruling party hopes to remain status quo, having the freedom to do whatever it likes. Unfortunately, this is the age of the internet where it is difficult to hide scandals. Most people now are aware of what is actually happening. But, old habits die hard. Politicians find their habits hard to change.
Years back, the Middle East with its rich oil wealth struck me as a very wealthy region. Today, after what happened in Egypt, I realize that the wealth is in the hands of a few with lots of hungry people that is not well looked after the government. |
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Feb 17 2013, 10:06 PM
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If the government takes the initiative to close the income gap, then economic prosperity would emerge. But all we heard is lip service. ..."high income nation"... But how to achieve this when trade unions fighting for a decent wage have their leaders sacked by the GLC. Mind you, the CEO of GLCs are appointed by the government. If you look at the number of members of the unions in the GLCs alone, they could easily be the king maker.
I am seeing the scenario of a hung Parliament. Thus investment in the stockmarket is only for the long term. |
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Feb 18 2013, 09:20 AM
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EPF 6.15% .. Seems like it's coming
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Feb 18 2013, 09:24 AM
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QUOTE(iVW @ Feb 18 2013, 09:20 AM) EPF 6.15% .. Seems like it's coming EPF is black-box operation, wanna declare 20% also not a problem. Because it just a figures, not really EPF got that money |
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Feb 18 2013, 09:25 AM
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Modus Operandi
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Feb 18 2013, 09:50 AM
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Singapore's (CPF) return 4%, our investment unit doing better?
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Feb 18 2013, 09:53 AM
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QUOTE(StupidGuyPlayComp @ Feb 18 2013, 09:24 AM) EPF is black-box operation, wanna declare 20% also not a problem. Because it just a figures, not really EPF got that money |
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Feb 18 2013, 09:57 AM
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QUOTE(BboyDora @ Feb 18 2013, 09:53 AM) Is so common that figures is use. Even Hishammudin say the crime rate has reduced by xx % but There are still rape, robbery etc etc cases almost everyday . At least people with great amount in EPF could beneficial. |
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Feb 18 2013, 10:06 AM
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QUOTE(OLT @ Feb 18 2013, 09:50 AM) Singapore's (CPF) return 4%, our investment unit doing better? But Singapore's real inflation and benchmark interest rates are lower than ours |
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Feb 18 2013, 10:09 AM
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 nice rebound mudajaya |
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Feb 18 2013, 10:29 AM
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QUOTE(Pink Spider @ Feb 18 2013, 10:06 AM) But Singapore's real inflation and benchmark interest rates are lower than ours Singapore FD rate very low, less than 1%............... FD is not a good choice for Singaporean |
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Feb 18 2013, 10:39 AM
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A lot of Singaporean into Malaysian Property, especially at Johor area.
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Feb 18 2013, 10:46 AM
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Is it me or is the market really so slow and boring?
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Feb 18 2013, 11:03 AM
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QUOTE(simplesmile @ Feb 18 2013, 10:46 AM) Is it me or is the market really so slow and boring? no more ohms in KLSE before the GE.............. or let us discuss what impact to local business if PKR win? I start, if PKR win..............1. Sell call to proton and MBMR as PKR promised to withdraw the vehicle import tax 2. Buy call to TChong or those vehicle import company What the impact if PKR withdraw the PLUS's fees?so all subsidy by govn, it should no impact to small shareholder right? |
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Feb 18 2013, 11:25 AM
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QUOTE(StupidGuyPlayComp @ Feb 18 2013, 11:03 AM) no more ohms in KLSE before the GE.............. or let us discuss what impact to local business if PKR win? I start, if PKR win..............1. Sell call to proton and MBMR as PKR promised to withdraw the vehicle import tax 2. Buy call to TChong or those vehicle import company What the impact if PKR withdraw the PLUS's fees?so all subsidy by govn, it should no impact to small shareholder right? |
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Feb 18 2013, 11:28 AM
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QUOTE(Bonescythe @ Feb 18 2013, 10:39 AM) A lot of Singaporean into Malaysian Property, especially at Johor area. Yeah, some properties in Johor especially JB area has seen their property increase by five folds. My friend bought a house in Tmn Skudai few years ago for 135k and just recently sold for 630k. Better than KL return.  |
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Feb 18 2013, 11:29 AM
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QUOTE(foofoosasa @ Feb 18 2013, 11:25 AM) Politician like to give sweet promise but seldom execute for (2). Agreed! As Tun M said "Better the devil you knows than the Angel you don't know". |
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Feb 18 2013, 11:31 AM
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QUOTE(StupidGuyPlayComp @ Feb 18 2013, 11:03 AM) no more ohms in KLSE before the GE.............. or let us discuss what impact to local business if PKR win? I start, if PKR win..............1. Sell call to proton and MBMR as PKR promised to withdraw the vehicle import tax 2. Buy call to TChong or those vehicle import company What the impact if PKR withdraw the PLUS's fees?so all subsidy by govn, it should no impact to small shareholder right? Might limit the number of special draws for the number forecast operators (NFO). Might impose entrance fee to Genting casino for local citizens (just like how Singapore is doing now). But anyway, I think BN will win. It's difficult to see how BN will lose after all the tricks they have used to buy votes. - all the 1 programmes (Kar1sma, pr1ma, br1m, bl1n ....) - the legalising of the illegal foreign workers, and implementation of the minimum wage. (this, i think is the secret weapon to counter the Chinese votes.) In 2008, there were more unhappy people due to the sudden petrol price hike. This directly impact their wallet and people could clearly see it hurting their lives. Hence the anger and resentment towards the BN government, and this was reflected in the higher votes for opposition. This time, I think it's the prices of housing that has gone up sky high and people could not afford housing. But this number of people is much lower than the 2008 number of unhappy people. |
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Feb 18 2013, 11:40 AM
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QUOTE(simplesmile @ Feb 18 2013, 11:31 AM) If PKR wins the federal government, then I think the gambling stock will be severely affected. Might limit the number of special draws for the number forecast operators (NFO). Might impose entrance fee to Genting casino for local citizens (just like how Singapore is doing now). But anyway, I think BN will win. It's difficult to see how BN will lose after all the tricks they have used to buy votes. - all the 1 programmes (Kar1sma, pr1ma, br1m, bl1n ....) - the legalising of the illegal foreign workers, and implementation of the minimum wage. (this, i think is the secret weapon to counter the Chinese votes.) In 2008, there were more unhappy people due to the sudden petrol price hike. This directly impact their wallet and people could clearly see it hurting their lives. Hence the anger and resentment towards the BN government, and this was reflected in the higher votes for opposition. This time, I think it's the prices of housing that has gone up sky high and people could not afford housing. But this number of people is much lower than the 2008 number of unhappy people. honestly said, I hope BN win.based on their "promises" BN is beneficial to businessman PKR is all beneficial to residents unless you can cash out 100% from share market now |
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Feb 18 2013, 12:16 PM
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QUOTE(StupidGuyPlayComp @ Feb 18 2013, 11:40 AM) honestly said, I hope BN win.based on their "promises" BN is beneficial to businessman PKR is all beneficial to residents unless you can cash out 100% from share market now . |
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Feb 18 2013, 12:44 PM
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QUOTE(StupidGuyPlayComp @ Feb 18 2013, 11:40 AM) honestly said, I hope BN win.based on their "promises" BN is beneficial to businessman PKR is all beneficial to residents unless you can cash out 100% from share market now Sorry , back to topic. Market seem slow. Still in CNY mood perhaps. |
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Feb 18 2013, 01:14 PM
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QUOTE(StupidGuyPlayComp @ Feb 18 2013, 11:40 AM) honestly said, I hope BN win.based on their "promises" BN is beneficial to businessman PKR is all beneficial to residents unless you can cash out 100% from share market now |
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Feb 18 2013, 01:20 PM
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QUOTE(river.sand @ Feb 18 2013, 01:14 PM) BN keeps the Parliament, PR wins a few states It seem like a bad situation, that few negeri(except penang and kelantan) will suffer slow improvement incoming few years. I vote BN is not fully because of capitalism, is the PKR's mgmt ability in Selangor really weak.especially the senator in my area, poor performance, too young on mgmt. dun expect the BN parliament govn will co-operate with the PKR's states |
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Feb 18 2013, 01:54 PM
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QUOTE(StupidGuyPlayComp @ Feb 18 2013, 11:40 AM) honestly said, I hope BN win.based on their "promises" BN is beneficial to businessman PKR is all beneficial to residents unless you can cash out 100% from share market now |
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Feb 18 2013, 01:58 PM
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QUOTE(StupidGuyPlayComp @ Feb 18 2013, 01:20 PM) It seem like a bad situation, that few negeri(except penang and kelantan) will suffer slow improvement incoming few years. I vote BN is not fully because of capitalism, is the PKR's mgmt ability in Selangor really weak.especially the senator in my area, poor performance, too young on mgmt. dun expect the BN parliament govn will co-operate with the PKR's states |
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Feb 18 2013, 02:01 PM
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QUOTE(jy1905 @ Feb 18 2013, 01:54 PM) I can't understand how pkr win can benefit residents.. I wanna have my freedom to choose my hairdresser.. I don't want to live in stone age.. But without the moon, how pkr can win?? Abolish business to BeeN cronies example infra project....TOLL, Highway, Power Plant, Defence procurment, Menara Wawasan.....etc |
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Feb 18 2013, 02:05 PM
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Honestly, BN or PKR win... Malaysia will still lag behind versus our neighbours.
PKR cannot even get their understanding and come to agreement amongst themselves (ie. the Allah issue, banning hairdressers, etc). Then how to come to agreement on more important national policies that will dictate the growth of the population, economy? Even before winning the federal government already start fighting for the post to become Prime Minister. BN is no better either. Protecting companies (cronies?) at the expense of the rakyat. (high national car price >> rakyat spend more money on car installment instead of spending money on quality food etc), the various flip-flop policies and not thorough thinking (most recent being the RM200 rebate for smartphones costs less than RM500, then weeks later removed the cap), a disaster on our education system... just to name a few. This post has been edited by simplesmile: Feb 18 2013, 02:06 PM |
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Feb 18 2013, 02:28 PM
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We just need a 2 parties system, to check and balance. BN or PR, maybe not a good government in certain area, but with only 1 party to control everything, is definitely worst off.
That's why corruption is getting worst, when you are in power for such a long period. Project IC, cowgate,PKFZ..the list is getting longer. Is time the clean up, for a better future for our children. We just cannot be selfish and just think of our stocks. Your children is the best investment and you have a choice of how to secure their future. |
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Feb 18 2013, 02:35 PM
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I told this to my friends. Choose the PKR or BeeN is like you buying something............. PKR - the "item" is cheap because less in corruption, you pay lesser tax/fees. But the "item" you get may not useful as their mgmt service is short of knowledge and experience. The DAP & PAS cant even agree on the Islamic issue. So, cheap thing but no good BeeN - You need pay higher tax, part for the corruption. But most of the time the "item" is better. They able deliver improvement to country, just the corruption pulling back many of us. So, good thing but no cheap This post has been edited by StupidGuyPlayComp: Feb 18 2013, 02:39 PM |
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Feb 18 2013, 03:09 PM
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QUOTE(OLT @ Feb 18 2013, 02:28 PM) We just need a 2 parties system, to check and balance. BN or PR, maybe not a good government in certain area, but with only 1 party to control everything, is definitely worst off. In a company, if a staff wish to promote, he/she need to show a good performance to the management first.That's why corruption is getting worst, when you are in power for such a long period. Project IC, cowgate,PKFZ..the list is getting longer. Is time the clean up, for a better future for our children. We just cannot be selfish and just think of our stocks. Your children is the best investment and you have a choice of how to secure their future. Instead of the company promoted him/her, only start show the good performance. Apply to PKR, they need to confidence us on the mgmt skill first. Instead of want us let them try. They should propose us if win, what going to do..............what is their policy(this very important). example like US, both party showing their policy and direction, how to heading the country for economy improvement, healthcare, tax structure, diplomacy etc. Non of the party in bolehland mention this. PKR try to avoid this as they not yet achieve the agreement among DAP and PAS Anwar become PM, then who is the vice PM???? it must a battle later. I still lack of confidence from them, after they manage the Selangor stateThis post has been edited by StupidGuyPlayComp: Feb 18 2013, 03:10 PM |
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Feb 18 2013, 03:20 PM
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QUOTE(StupidGuyPlayComp @ Feb 18 2013, 03:09 PM) In a company, if a staff wish to promote, he/she need to show a good performance to the management first. Exactly.. That's why they are not ready to form fed gov yet. I remember they said wanna form shadow cabinet long long time ago. Talk kok sing song only. The reality is they can't even decide on how to allocate the posts. The coalition is toooooo fragile!! But I do hope they can continue to deny the gov of a landslide victoryInstead of the company promoted him/her, only start show the good performance. Apply to PKR, they need to confidence us on the mgmt skill first. Instead of want us let them try. They should propose us if win, what going to do..............what is their policy(this very important). example like US, both party showing their policy and direction, how to heading the country for economy improvement, healthcare, tax structure, diplomacy etc. Non of the party in bolehland mention this. PKR try to avoid this as they not yet achieve the agreement among DAP and PAS Anwar become PM, then who is the vice PM???? it must a battle later. I still lack of confidence from them, after they manage the Selangor state |
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Feb 18 2013, 03:31 PM
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somebody is goreng-ing JAKS big time by looking at the activities.
But heck, no TA or FA can predict how this will be later or tomorrow. cheers |
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Feb 18 2013, 03:35 PM
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QUOTE(simplesmile @ Feb 18 2013, 02:05 PM) Honestly, BN or PKR win... Malaysia will still lag behind versus our neighbours. PKR cannot even get their understanding and come to agreement amongst themselves (ie. the Allah issue, banning hairdressers, etc). Then how to come to agreement on more important national policies that will dictate the growth of the population, economy? Even before winning the federal government already start fighting for the post to become Prime Minister. BN is no better either. Protecting companies (cronies?) at the expense of the rakyat. (high national car price >> rakyat spend more money on car installment instead of spending money on quality food etc), the various flip-flop policies and not thorough thinking (most recent being the RM200 rebate for smartphones costs less than RM500, then weeks later removed the cap), a disaster on our education system... just to name a few. my salary income is not competative with neighbour country..singapore. from housing to child wellfare the goverment well taking care. We m'sia only come out when go issue and the fix is temporary in a promise helping more if giving another mandate rule the country. |
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Feb 18 2013, 03:40 PM
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QUOTE(felixmask @ Feb 18 2013, 03:35 PM) my salary income is not competative with neighbour country..singapore. from housing to child wellfare the goverment well taking care. We m'sia only come out when go issue and the fix is temporary in a promise helping more if giving another mandate rule the country. regardless of BeeN or PKR cant change this fact. Dun hope PKR can change your salary from 5k to 20k. same pattern of Perkasa and PAS, they wont agree to withdraw the 30% bumi shareholding. With this policy, where got high salary offering from MNC company? FF all cabut-ing from bolehland already. in fact, Badawi and Najib both sense this situation, they hint to withdraw this policy..................but PERKASA said NO |
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Feb 18 2013, 03:42 PM
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I live in Selangor... PKR-lead gov . At least I no need to pay water bill every month (not to overuse until the quota) Haha..
Sorry, OT. |
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Feb 18 2013, 03:44 PM
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QUOTE(jy1905 @ Feb 18 2013, 03:20 PM) Exactly.. That's why they are not ready to form fed gov yet. I remember they said wanna form shadow cabinet long long time ago. Talk kok sing song only. The reality is they can't even decide on how to allocate the posts. The coalition is toooooo fragile!! But I do hope they can continue to deny the gov of a landslide victory Shadow cabinet??? talk cock nia.You see what happen in Perak once PKR won the state..............DAP and PAS arguing, both submit the candidate(menteri besar) to Sultan, end up the Sultan only choose PAS. Where is the agreement? |
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Feb 18 2013, 03:45 PM
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QUOTE(BboyDora @ Feb 18 2013, 03:42 PM) I live in Selangor... PKR-lead gov . At least I no need to pay water bill every month (not to overuse until the quota) Haha.. Sorry, OT. I live in Selangor as well, but still need to pay the water bill.................not fair |
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Feb 18 2013, 03:57 PM
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QUOTE(StupidGuyPlayComp @ Feb 18 2013, 03:45 PM) I live in Selangor as well, but still need to pay the water bill.................not fair |
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Feb 18 2013, 03:58 PM
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QUOTE(StupidGuyPlayComp @ Feb 18 2013, 03:45 PM) I live in Selangor as well, but still need to pay the water bill.................not fair |
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Feb 18 2013, 04:11 PM
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QUOTE(felixmask @ Feb 18 2013, 03:58 PM) your house got swiming pool? Haha, market overall quite boring, this remark made me laugh. Nice! +1 |
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Feb 18 2013, 04:17 PM
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QUOTE(hehe86 @ Feb 18 2013, 04:11 PM) Haha, market overall quite boring, this remark made me laugh. Nice! +1 today in onleave...at home see the market...very boring..noting to goreng....all red for my counter.This post has been edited by felixmask: Feb 18 2013, 04:17 PM |
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Feb 18 2013, 04:27 PM
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QUOTE(StupidGuyPlayComp @ Feb 18 2013, 03:44 PM) Shadow cabinet??? talk cock nia.You see what happen in Perak once PKR won the state..............DAP and PAS arguing, both submit the candidate(menteri besar) to Sultan, end up the Sultan only choose PAS. Where is the agreement? |
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Feb 18 2013, 05:01 PM
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good day for me, portfolio almost go back to unchange |
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Feb 18 2013, 05:04 PM
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QUOTE(StupidGuyPlayComp @ Feb 18 2013, 05:01 PM) good day for me, portfolio almost go back to unchange |
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Feb 18 2013, 05:06 PM
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QUOTE(felixmask @ Feb 18 2013, 05:04 PM) can share what you holding? all old man counter, better dun...........very paisehThis post has been edited by StupidGuyPlayComp: Feb 18 2013, 05:07 PM |
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Feb 18 2013, 05:11 PM
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QUOTE(StupidGuyPlayComp @ Feb 18 2013, 05:06 PM) all old man counter, better dun...........very paiseh must be bought long long time ago sifu of investment...This post has been edited by felixmask: Feb 18 2013, 05:13 PM |
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Feb 18 2013, 05:22 PM
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QUOTE(felixmask @ Feb 18 2013, 05:11 PM) must be bought long long time ago sifu of investment... I newbie, not sifu |
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Feb 18 2013, 05:33 PM
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QUOTE(StupidGuyPlayComp @ Feb 18 2013, 05:22 PM) I newbie, not sifu.............until.................. the day open my eye and jaw open |
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Feb 18 2013, 06:39 PM
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LOL, today all forumer talking about politics.
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Feb 18 2013, 06:41 PM
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QUOTE(foofoosasa @ Feb 18 2013, 06:39 PM) LOL, today all forumer talking about politics. GE13 nearby... |
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Feb 18 2013, 06:50 PM
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QUOTE(felixmask @ Feb 18 2013, 06:41 PM) GE13 nearby... maybe will announce within this week.... |
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Feb 18 2013, 11:12 PM
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http://biz.thestar.com.my/news/story.asp?f...15&sec=business
tasek 90cents dividend sorry off topic...(from GE) This post has been edited by asambuffett: Feb 19 2013, 12:08 AM |
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Feb 19 2013, 10:43 AM
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QUOTE(StupidGuyPlayComp @ Feb 18 2013, 05:22 PM) I newbie, not sifu |
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Feb 19 2013, 10:43 AM
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Nobody wanna blow water today? top red counter -82c |
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Feb 19 2013, 10:44 AM
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QUOTE(Bonescythe @ Feb 19 2013, 10:43 AM) Everyday eat seafood one I only eligible to eat roti.................you and SKY only can eat seafood, lol |
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Feb 19 2013, 10:46 AM
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QUOTE(StupidGuyPlayComp @ Feb 19 2013, 10:44 AM) I only eligible to eat roti.................you and SKY only can eat seafood, lolDoctor says I got high blood pressure and high colesterol already.. Last time eat many, now damage already |
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Feb 19 2013, 10:48 AM
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QUOTE(StupidGuyPlayComp @ Feb 19 2013, 10:44 AM) I only eligible to eat roti.................you and SKY only can eat seafood, lolSo u want to eat anot? If want, then I give you one big seafood. Make sure u eat until December 2013 also cannot finish |
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Feb 19 2013, 10:58 AM
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QUOTE(Bonescythe @ Feb 19 2013, 10:46 AM) I cannot eat seafood already lately. Doctor says I got high blood pressure and high colesterol already.. Last time eat many, now damage already my body got many quota to eat..................eat many many still slim |
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Feb 19 2013, 10:58 AM
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QUOTE(StupidGuyPlayComp @ Feb 19 2013, 10:43 AM) Nobody wanna blow water today?top red counter -82c Long term pain to our local markets........... |
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Feb 19 2013, 10:59 AM
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QUOTE(SKY 1809 @ Feb 19 2013, 10:58 AM) Everyday also Election Koming............. Long term pain to our local markets........... tell ajib hurry up..........dun waste time |
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Feb 19 2013, 11:26 AM
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QUOTE(StupidGuyPlayComp @ Feb 19 2013, 10:59 AM) tell ajib hurry up..........dun waste time |
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Feb 19 2013, 11:27 AM
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QUOTE(StupidGuyPlayComp @ Feb 19 2013, 10:59 AM) tell ajib hurry up..........dun waste time |
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Feb 19 2013, 11:32 AM
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Something cooking with COMPUGT??
Always top volume..... This post has been edited by flamephotography: Feb 19 2013, 11:50 AM |
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Feb 19 2013, 11:39 AM
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QUOTE(StupidGuyPlayComp @ Feb 19 2013, 10:58 AM) my body got many quota to eat..................eat many many still slimThen u eat xx82 la This post has been edited by Bonescythe: Feb 19 2013, 11:43 AM |
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Feb 19 2013, 11:41 AM
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Don't eat until like this then can already la
http://bostonglobe.com/lifestyle/health-we...BaRM/story.html |
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Feb 19 2013, 11:41 AM
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QUOTE(Bonescythe @ Feb 19 2013, 11:39 AM) Like this ahh... Then u eat 0082 la look at the chart, sliding down..............I think you must have insider news. Will see see & monitor, thx |
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Feb 19 2013, 11:42 AM
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QUOTE(StupidGuyPlayComp @ Feb 19 2013, 11:41 AM) look at the chart, sliding down..............I think you must have insider news. Will see see & monitor, thxWhat about xx82 ? Hehehe.. Sendiri judge la.. This post has been edited by Bonescythe: Feb 19 2013, 11:43 AM |
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QUOTE(StupidGuyPlayComp @ Feb 19 2013, 10:59 AM) tell ajib hurry up..........dun waste timeand listen more.................................. No Election if we have not listened enough |
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QUOTE(SKY 1809 @ Feb 19 2013, 11:46 AM) Our job is supposed to listen, listen listen Listen "Are you ready for BN" ?and listen more.................................. No Election if we have not listened enough I everyday also listen.. But everyday people also say NO.. How? |
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Feb 19 2013, 12:05 PM
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QUOTE(Bonescythe @ Feb 19 2013, 11:49 AM) Listen "Are you ready for BN" ? Ready for Bila N .............no harm to say Yes anytime . I everyday also listen.. But everyday people also say NO.. How? Just my thought only. This post has been edited by SKY 1809: Feb 19 2013, 12:06 PM |
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Feb 19 2013, 12:06 PM
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But TV2 says Yes.. Hahahaha
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Feb 19 2013, 12:15 PM
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Feb 19 2013, 12:18 PM
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Goreng lah
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Feb 19 2013, 12:22 PM
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TV2 said BN confinent of winning more than 140 seats. But until now still no election.
so I am a bit confuse, confident of winning seats but not election? |
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Feb 19 2013, 12:32 PM
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QUOTE(OLT @ Feb 19 2013, 12:22 PM) TV2 said BN confinent of winning more than 140 seats. But until now still no election. Don't know who to vote these days so I am a bit confuse, confident of winning seats but not election? If want to say give opposition a chance, my area here governed by opposition (MPSJ) and I think BN did a better job compared to opposition. Case like rubbish collection are perfect examples. |
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Feb 19 2013, 12:57 PM
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QUOTE(Icehart @ Feb 19 2013, 12:32 PM) Don't know who to vote these days Any chance BN give them money and ask them not to collect rubbish in a hardworking manner? If want to say give opposition a chance, my area here governed by opposition (MPSJ) and I think BN did a better job compared to opposition. Case like rubbish collection are perfect examples. |
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Feb 19 2013, 01:05 PM
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QUOTE(Bonescythe @ Feb 19 2013, 12:57 PM) Any chance BN give them money and ask them not to collect rubbish in a hardworking manner? Nolah, they suddenly decided want to use their own contractors rather than Alam Florahttp://komunitikini.com/kl-selangor/subang...tion-in-october |
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Feb 19 2013, 01:13 PM
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QUOTE(Icehart @ Feb 19 2013, 12:32 PM) Don't know who to vote these days If want to say give opposition a chance, my area here governed by opposition (MPSJ) and I think BN did a better job compared to opposition. Case like rubbish collection are perfect examples. My area here also MPSJ, I felt that opposition not as good as BN......... |
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Feb 19 2013, 01:19 PM
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QUOTE(OLT @ Feb 19 2013, 12:22 PM) TV2 said BN confinent of winning more than 140 seats. But until now still no election. TV2 news cannot be trusted already.so I am a bit confuse, confident of winning seats but not election? The "Are you ready for BN" also can change to YES. I think the 140 seats is actually 14 only |
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Feb 19 2013, 01:55 PM
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Can call Obama migrate to bolehland? Obama's party seem better in quality, bolehland's party tak boleh harap |
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Feb 19 2013, 02:11 PM
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imo, who ever wins the election also we have opportunity to profit from it
before election short market. after election, if BN wins, buy all GLC or long market. if opposition wins, short market. this is my opinion only. buy/sell at your own risk |
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Feb 19 2013, 02:14 PM
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QUOTE(ham_revilo @ Feb 19 2013, 02:11 PM) imo, who ever wins the election also we have opportunity to profit from it before election short market. after election, if BN wins, buy all GLC or long market. if opposition wins, short market. this is my opinion only. buy/sell at your own risk very risky, market always perform unexpected...............mana tau BN win but market sink, or PKR win but market up...............then die |
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QUOTE(StupidGuyPlayComp @ Feb 19 2013, 02:14 PM) very risky, market always perform unexpected...............mana tau BN win but market sink, or PKR win but market up...............then die but its just my opinion la, if BN wins i dont see why market will sink. there will be no major change in any policy that could affect the market if they were to win. worst case i could see is 50/50. no win no lose. that time, short till you drop liau This post has been edited by ham_revilo: Feb 19 2013, 02:23 PM |
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Feb 19 2013, 02:33 PM
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QUOTE(Icehart @ Feb 19 2013, 12:32 PM) Don't know who to vote these days Ice gor, rubbish collection small issue la. Big thing such as our debt > 500billion really seriously affecting us. As you know, S&P already warned us to reduce the debt, else downgrade rating. When that happen, borrowing cost increase further and bear in mind, interest is compounding. Debt/GDP already > 50%. once unable to pay, country bankrupt. jobless rate soar, riot everywhere. If want to say give opposition a chance, my area here governed by opposition (MPSJ) and I think BN did a better job compared to opposition. Case like rubbish collection are perfect examples. No change government, wait die. |
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Feb 19 2013, 02:33 PM
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QUOTE(ham_revilo @ Feb 19 2013, 02:20 PM) true too. but market always have risk want. but its just my opinion la, if BN wins i dont see why market will sink. there will be no major change in any policy that could affect the market if they were to win. worst case i could see is 50/50. no win no lose. that time, short till you drop liau 50/50 is not my style.............my strategies, market drop I buy, market high I sell/keep........... |
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Feb 19 2013, 02:36 PM
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QUOTE(super911 @ Feb 19 2013, 02:33 PM) Ice gor, rubbish collection small issue la. Big thing such as our debt > 500billion really seriously affecting us. As you know, S&P already warned us to reduce the debt, else downgrade rating. When that happen, borrowing cost increase further and bear in mind, interest is compounding. Debt/GDP already > 50%. once unable to pay, country bankrupt. jobless rate soar, riot everywhere. No change government, wait die. I not worry of bolehland government bankrupt, they simply sell the petronas or others government's own company will solve the debt issue. Bolehland's debt 97% is local debt, nobody dare to force gomen pay back |
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Feb 19 2013, 02:39 PM
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QUOTE(StupidGuyPlayComp @ Feb 19 2013, 02:33 PM) 50/50 is not my style.............my strategies, market drop I buy, market high I sell/keep........... yea, like your strategy, most conventional way of investing. slowly but surely |
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Feb 19 2013, 03:23 PM
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today another red day ya. Anyway CSL good entry?
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Feb 19 2013, 03:24 PM
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QUOTE(super911 @ Feb 19 2013, 03:33 PM) Ice gor, rubbish collection small issue la. Big thing such as our debt > 500billion really seriously affecting us. As you know, S&P already warned us to reduce the debt, else downgrade rating. When that happen, borrowing cost increase further and bear in mind, interest is compounding. Debt/GDP already > 50%. once unable to pay, country bankrupt. jobless rate soar, riot everywhere. i don't think we will go bankrupt one la. No change government, wait die. |
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Feb 19 2013, 03:33 PM
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I think a lot of ppl warn about the debt in Malaysia is because over the last 8 years, our debt increases drastically. We are now in over 50%, while Singapore is close to 100% also no issue. So, I believe the problem with Malaysia is because we accumulate debt drastically over the last decade rather than over the whole period of establishment. And our debt can only go up due to the high number of civil servants that we have. Even if no corruption occurs, it just a matter of time before we go bankrupt. Corruption only accelerate it.
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Feb 19 2013, 03:35 PM
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QUOTE(jasontoh @ Feb 19 2013, 03:33 PM) I think a lot of ppl warn about the debt in Malaysia is because over the last 8 years, our debt increases drastically. We are now in over 50%, while Singapore is close to 100% also no issue. So, I believe the problem with Malaysia is because we accumulate debt drastically over the last decade rather than over the whole period of establishment. And our debt can only go up due to the high number of civil servants that we have. Even if no corruption occurs, it just a matter of time before we go bankrupt. Corruption only accelerate it. source of waste money |
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Feb 19 2013, 03:37 PM
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QUOTE(StupidGuyPlayComp @ Feb 19 2013, 03:35 PM) source of waste money |
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Feb 19 2013, 03:40 PM
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QUOTE(jasontoh @ Feb 19 2013, 03:37 PM) Worst of all, those are permanent and continuous growth in the balance sheet as we are paying them pension. In order to reduce the waste, at least 50% headcount reduction is required, and no more extension for high post to stop their pension from growing. 100000% agree...............lesser civil servants > higher pay for them > forcing private sector offer higher pay to workers as well |
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Feb 19 2013, 04:33 PM
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Funny that many foreign investors asked CIMB why now still have selling pressure since FF already low and GE news already at the end.
They asked who is selling?? CIMB said local institutional funds loh. (I bet they laugh and still blur blur wondering why why why! )What a joke! It seems this is uncommon in world market. Attached File(s) 
Strategy_Flash_Note_cimb_150213.pdf ( 760.44k )
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Feb 19 2013, 05:07 PM
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QUOTE(StupidGuyPlayComp @ Feb 19 2013, 02:36 PM) I not worry of bolehland government bankrupt, they simply sell the petronas or others government's own company will solve the debt issue. Bolehland's debt 97% is local debt, nobody dare to force gomen pay backMalaysia’s external debt last year stood at RM257.2 billion, Prime Minister cum Finance Minister Datuk Seri Najib Tun Razak said. “The national debt that encompasses the Federal Government external debt, Non-Financial Public Enterprise and private sector is 30.2 per cent from the Gross Domestic Product (GDP),” he said, adding that the government’s total debt that comprised external and internal sources, was RM456.1 billion or 53.5 per cent from the GDP, as end of last year. More than half of Malaysia's debt is external, the other half is internal. Overall already >50% GDP. However still lower than all those problem country which debt >100%. For 2013 the debt to GDP ratio is expect to surpass 60%, and half is external... This post has been edited by gark: Feb 19 2013, 05:08 PM |
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Feb 19 2013, 05:11 PM
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QUOTE(super911 @ Feb 19 2013, 02:33 PM) Ice gor, rubbish collection small issue la. Big thing such as our debt > 500billion really seriously affecting us. As you know, S&P already warned us to reduce the debt, else downgrade rating. When that happen, borrowing cost increase further and bear in mind, interest is compounding. Debt/GDP already > 50%. once unable to pay, country bankrupt. jobless rate soar, riot everywhere. Then how can change government solve this issue? No change government, wait die. Anwar promise to slash car duties and dissolve ptptn, gives free Tertiary education. Surely, someone or somewhere have to offset these income loop. |
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Feb 19 2013, 05:11 PM
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QUOTE(jasontoh @ Feb 19 2013, 03:33 PM) I think a lot of ppl warn about the debt in Malaysia is because over the last 8 years, our debt increases drastically. We are now in over 50%, while Singapore is close to 100% also no issue. So, I believe the problem with Malaysia is because we accumulate debt drastically over the last decade rather than over the whole period of establishment. And our debt can only go up due to the high number of civil servants that we have. Even if no corruption occurs, it just a matter of time before we go bankrupt. Corruption only accelerate it. Our debt jumped from 42% in 2008 to >60% in 2013... too many BR1M... |
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Feb 19 2013, 05:11 PM
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QUOTE(yok70 @ Feb 19 2013, 04:33 PM) Funny that many foreign investors asked CIMB why now still have selling pressure since FF already low and GE news already at the end. They asked who is selling?? CIMB said local institutional funds loh. (I bet they laugh and still blur blur wondering why why why! )What a joke! It seems this is uncommon in world market. all share player, include small investor, speculator, sharks, local fund, FF, EPF all giving negative view on the GE...........everyone cashing out. thats why if PKR win, how the share player react? sure dump like hell.............super panic sell |
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Feb 19 2013, 05:24 PM
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We need the GOREN-GOR to fly our holdings share to cash out our money before paliment dissording happen lor...
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Feb 19 2013, 05:25 PM
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QUOTE(StupidGuyPlayComp @ Feb 19 2013, 05:11 PM) thats why if PKR win, how the share player react? sure dump like hell.............super panic sell |
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Feb 19 2013, 05:26 PM
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QUOTE(jasontoh @ Feb 19 2013, 03:33 PM) I think a lot of ppl warn about the debt in Malaysia is because over the last 8 years, our debt increases drastically. We are now in over 50%, while Singapore is close to 100% also no issue. So, I believe the problem with Malaysia is because we accumulate debt drastically over the last decade rather than over the whole period of establishment. And our debt can only go up due to the high number of civil servants that we have. Even if no corruption occurs, it just a matter of time before we go bankrupt. Corruption only accelerate it. Singapore is close to 100%? Really?? |
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Feb 19 2013, 05:29 PM
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QUOTE(yok70 @ Feb 19 2013, 06:26 PM) Singapore is close to 100%? Really?? So singapore is what rating? |
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Feb 19 2013, 05:37 PM
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Never heard of Singapore debt close to 100%. You need to back it up with facts. They have more than SGD200 billion in reserves, strong currency and robust economy.
We simply cannot compare with them, any downturn will hit us hard compare to Singapore. Our debt is serious issue, because we rakyat going to pay for it, not petronas. |
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Feb 19 2013, 05:58 PM
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QUOTE(yok70 @ Feb 19 2013, 05:25 PM) well, this depends on short term or long term. Very hard to predict since we really dunno how PKR does if really let them manage the entire country. We already sees lots of frustration and contradiction between PAS and Rocket. But then, if they end up manage it well (such as Penang), the country may boost into a new era and perhaps index shoot to 3000 also possible! I guess and I hope is short term...............Bolehland economy fundamental will not affect much by the politic factor.............fundamental still there |
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Feb 19 2013, 07:03 PM
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QUOTE(StupidGuyPlayComp @ Feb 19 2013, 05:11 PM) all share player, include small investor, speculator, sharks, local fund, FF, EPF all giving negative view on the GE...........everyone cashing out. thats why if PKR win, how the share player react? sure dump like hell.............super panic sellGLC CEO will replace - those not willing to do go down then all the @COWgate account about the company will come out. |
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Feb 19 2013, 07:40 PM
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you want to solve rubbish issue in mpsj, better still do a law provision on the good housekeeping
while contract on collecting rubbish so and so ..shud have more initiative on creating local industry .. aka like semb corp of singapore.. |
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Feb 19 2013, 09:30 PM
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QUOTE(KVReninem @ Feb 19 2013, 08:40 PM) you want to solve rubbish issue in mpsj, better still do a law provision on the good housekeeping To everyone .. I'm planning to get few lots of digi..while contract on collecting rubbish so and so ..shud have more initiative on creating local industry .. aka like semb corp of singapore.. I saw a lot sell q.. Any idea ? Or should wait ge? |
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Feb 19 2013, 09:45 PM
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QUOTE(happyeveryday~ @ Feb 19 2013, 09:30 PM) To everyone .. I'm planning to get few lots of digi.. The bloodshed will continue after Najib announce GE.I saw a lot sell q.. Any idea ? Or should wait ge? A big one. It's your discretion to buy during that time or after GE. Stock like DIGI have no effect on whichever party wins the GE. PKR takeover also DIGI will still exist. It's not like people will change carrier if opposition wins. |
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Feb 19 2013, 09:57 PM
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QUOTE(Icehart @ Feb 19 2013, 09:45 PM) The bloodshed will continue after Najib announce GE. Free telco for everyone A big one. It's your discretion to buy during that time or after GE. Stock like DIGI have no effect on whichever party wins the GE. PKR takeover also DIGI will still exist. It's not like people will change carrier if opposition wins. *joking *This post has been edited by Eugene91: Feb 19 2013, 09:57 PM |
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Feb 19 2013, 10:08 PM
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QUOTE(Eugene91 @ Feb 19 2013, 09:57 PM) Free telco for everyone Free for everyone *joking * We'll be going back to Communism in a fast pace. Free housing, free cars, free foods. |
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Feb 19 2013, 10:31 PM
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QUOTE(Icehart @ Feb 19 2013, 10:08 PM) Free for everyone country no money, print money, everything back to square one We'll be going back to Communism in a fast pace. Free housing, free cars, free foods. |
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Feb 19 2013, 10:36 PM
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QUOTE(ben3003 @ Feb 19 2013, 10:31 PM) country no money, print money, everything back to square one won't die onedevalue currency kow kow then can provide cheap labor and attract more investment still can survive so find a place to emigrate |
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Feb 19 2013, 10:38 PM
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QUOTE(jy1905 @ Feb 19 2013, 10:36 PM) won't die one With currency value dropped, emigrate also kind of hard.devalue currency kow kow then can provide cheap labor and attract more investment still can survive so find a place to emigrate You work days and nights, only to find other people are getting that kind of pay in merely hours. |
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Feb 19 2013, 10:39 PM
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QUOTE(Icehart @ Feb 19 2013, 10:38 PM) With currency value dropped, emigrate also kind of hard. so cabut now You work days and nights, only to find other people are getting that kind of pay in merely hours. |
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Feb 19 2013, 10:41 PM
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Cabut from this thread before people calls us BN supporters
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Feb 19 2013, 10:42 PM
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QUOTE(jy1905 @ Feb 19 2013, 10:39 PM) so cabut now The most important question, cabut to where? |
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Feb 19 2013, 10:57 PM
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QUOTE(Icehart @ Feb 19 2013, 11:42 PM) The most important question, cabut to where? SG |
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Feb 19 2013, 10:58 PM
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QUOTE(davidcch07 @ Feb 19 2013, 10:57 PM) SG I just came back from SG 4 days trip not long ago and I still prefer Malaysia in the end. My second SG trip. |
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Feb 19 2013, 10:59 PM
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QUOTE(Icehart @ Feb 19 2013, 11:58 PM) I just came back from SG 4 days trip not long ago and I still prefer Malaysia in the end. any reason? My second SG trip. |
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Feb 19 2013, 11:01 PM
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QUOTE(davidcch07 @ Feb 19 2013, 10:59 PM) any reason? Food & Girls. |
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Feb 19 2013, 11:03 PM
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QUOTE(Icehart @ Feb 20 2013, 12:01 AM) Food & Girls. hahaha... i guess u go wrong place? My frens work at SG... Food i agreed... but gals... lolz |
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Feb 19 2013, 11:09 PM
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QUOTE(davidcch07 @ Feb 19 2013, 11:03 PM) hahaha... i guess u go wrong place? My frens work at SG... Food i agreed... but gals... lolz Different people different taste How's your investment lately? |
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Feb 19 2013, 11:15 PM
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QUOTE(gark @ Feb 19 2013, 05:07 PM) Overall already >50% GDP. However still lower than all those problem country which debt >100%. For 2013 the debt to GDP ratio is expect to surpass 60%, and half is external... looks like they have commit themselves by making it public.(GDP/Debt ratio capped capped at 55%) This post has been edited by asambuffett: Feb 19 2013, 11:16 PM |
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Feb 19 2013, 11:19 PM
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QUOTE(yok70 @ Feb 19 2013, 05:26 PM) Singapore is close to 100%? Really?? http://www.tremeritus.com/2012/05/17/singa...ble-of-the-day/ |
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Feb 19 2013, 11:50 PM
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Stock market sentiments are going to be weak and on downtrend due to GE effect after CNY. better stop for now.
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Feb 20 2013, 12:22 AM
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QUOTE(asambuffett @ Feb 19 2013, 11:19 PM) Thanks! Wow! Interesting. |
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Feb 20 2013, 05:31 AM
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QUOTE(Icehart @ Feb 19 2013, 10:45 PM) The bloodshed will continue after Najib announce GE. But should be a little bit effect rite ? A big one. It's your discretion to buy during that time or after GE. Stock like DIGI have no effect on whichever party wins the GE. PKR takeover also DIGI will still exist. It's not like people will change carrier if opposition wins. Since will be everyone panic throwing and digi oso will follow the trend.. Okay we dun look ge first , someone crazy keep on throwing digi .. Anyone know what's the problem? And another time of 4.5 again ? Just for fun.. Anyone notice tms? Any view on the share? Holding it xP Who willing to lead this newbie ahahah Willing to share 10% profit ^.^ or trend 99 foods girls |
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Feb 20 2013, 08:20 AM
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QUOTE(davidcch07 @ Feb 19 2013, 11:03 PM) hahaha... i guess u go wrong place? My frens work at SG... Food i agreed... but gals... lolz Strongly agree with you!! But SG food is ok ... Just more "healthy" (less oil, less sugar, less msg, less soy sauce).. Haha.. Basically no taste.. |
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Feb 20 2013, 09:13 AM
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QUOTE(OLT @ Feb 19 2013, 05:37 PM) Never heard of Singapore debt close to 100%. You need to back it up with facts. They have more than SGD200 billion in reserves, strong currency and robust economy. Never heard of doesn't mean it did not happen or not happening. I think wiki can give very good overview http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_count..._by_public_debt. IMO, majority of the people don't know that Singapore is another indebted country, because no one is talking about Singapore's debt. Even US debt that is so high is less than 90% of the GDP, and people are talking about US debt is because everyone is talking about it. I don't know about Singapore's public debt as well, until previously there is one interactive page on this statistic, provided by a LYN-er, only make me aware of this.We simply cannot compare with them, any downturn will hit us hard compare to Singapore. Our debt is serious issue, because we rakyat going to pay for it, not petronas. This post has been edited by jasontoh: Feb 20 2013, 09:14 AM |
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QUOTE(jasontoh @ Feb 20 2013, 09:13 AM) Never heard of doesn't mean it did not happen or not happening. I think wiki can give very good overview http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_count..._by_public_debt. IMO, majority of the people don't know that Singapore is another indebted country, because no one is talking about Singapore's debt. Even US debt that is so high is less than 90% of the GDP, and people are talking about US debt is because everyone is talking about it. I don't know about Singapore's public debt as well, until previously there is one interactive page on this statistic, provided by a LYN-er, only make me aware of this. the country got debt doesnt mean it gonna bankrupt, it owes boils down to how strong they are in their country growth and productivity. US they basically sell their debt to ppl, ask who wan to buy their debt, they need the money to build the nation further, but they have the GDP to pay, i believe no problem. |
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Feb 20 2013, 09:46 AM
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QUOTE(jasontoh @ Feb 20 2013, 09:13 AM) Never heard of doesn't mean it did not happen or not happening. I think wiki can give very good overview http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_count..._by_public_debt. IMO, majority of the people don't know that Singapore is another indebted country, because no one is talking about Singapore's debt. Even US debt that is so high is less than 90% of the GDP, and people are talking about US debt is because everyone is talking about it. I don't know about Singapore's public debt as well, until previously there is one interactive page on this statistic, provided by a LYN-er, only make me aware of this. The debt is easily explained and there shouldn’t be any reason to panic yet…The bulk of the Government debt are in the form of security bonds called Singapore Government Securities and the Central Provident Fund Board (CPF) is the main holder of these bonds. Hence we can say that Singapore Government do not really owe other countries or private entities any debt but they owe CPF quite a substantial amount of money. Why then, does the Government need to borrow so much money from CPF? The answer is an ingenious plan by the Government to create a money flow cycle to fund public housing. CPF was created as a pension funds that belongs to the contributors (Singaporean & PRs) and not the Government. In order for the Government to use the fund in CPF, they have to ‘borrow’ from it. The houses were then sold to the people at a comfortable rate to repay the debt and interest owed to CPF board. The cycle continues to present day and as the Government spends more on public housing, it borrows more from CPF and that explains the high national debt owed domestically and not externally. We can now see that the huge Government debt is no cause for alarm. However, what the Government should do better is communication. Without explaining the details of the debt, people – including the good economics professor from China’s “BeiDa” – would not know the intricate details of the funding model for our public housing project and would therefore be misguided by statistics & confused. |
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Feb 20 2013, 10:02 AM
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Tune Ins Ipo also so so only.
Dunno will plunge anot.. |
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Feb 20 2013, 10:11 AM
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Tune Ins will it perform rally like others IPO???
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Feb 20 2013, 10:19 AM
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QUOTE(Matt4wd @ Feb 20 2013, 10:11 AM) Tune Ins will it perform rally like others IPO??? Other IPOs is?Other IPO that goes down the valley? Other IPO that rocket up the mountain? |
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Feb 20 2013, 10:32 AM
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QUOTE(ST12 @ Feb 20 2013, 09:46 AM) The debt is easily explained and there shouldn’t be any reason to panic yet… Yup. But there will be problem and risk borrowing a lot internally rather than externally, but, it will be another topic. I'm just sharing to people who might not aware that in fact Singapore has higher debt.The bulk of the Government debt are in the form of security bonds called Singapore Government Securities and the Central Provident Fund Board (CPF) is the main holder of these bonds. Hence we can say that Singapore Government do not really owe other countries or private entities any debt but they owe CPF quite a substantial amount of money. Why then, does the Government need to borrow so much money from CPF? The answer is an ingenious plan by the Government to create a money flow cycle to fund public housing. CPF was created as a pension funds that belongs to the contributors (Singaporean & PRs) and not the Government. In order for the Government to use the fund in CPF, they have to ‘borrow’ from it. The houses were then sold to the people at a comfortable rate to repay the debt and interest owed to CPF board. The cycle continues to present day and as the Government spends more on public housing, it borrows more from CPF and that explains the high national debt owed domestically and not externally. We can now see that the huge Government debt is no cause for alarm. However, what the Government should do better is communication. Without explaining the details of the debt, people – including the good economics professor from China’s “BeiDa” – would not know the intricate details of the funding model for our public housing project and would therefore be misguided by statistics & confused. |
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Feb 20 2013, 10:36 AM
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Current market kinda good for
Listen listen n more listening Everyone is more or less having the same pattern |
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Feb 20 2013, 10:47 AM
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QUOTE(Bonescythe @ Feb 20 2013, 10:19 AM) Other IPOs is? I mean like CAP, CSL, IHH????Other IPO that goes down the valley? Other IPO that rocket up the mountain? |
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QUOTE(Matt4wd @ Feb 20 2013, 10:47 AM) I mean like CAP, CSL, IHH???? CAP is one day job.. Up up up up up and then die...CSL is up first. Then down down.. side line and then up up up up until gao gao and now down down down until more gao gao IHH slowly up and maintain good. All different one woh |
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QUOTE(Bonescythe @ Feb 20 2013, 10:50 AM) CAP is one day job.. Up up up up up and then die... CSL is up first. Then down down.. side line and then up up up up until gao gao and now down down down until more gao gao IHH slowly up and maintain good. All different one woh I thought every IPOs 1st day could have speculate up up up gao gao then down VERY GAO |
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Feb 20 2013, 11:11 AM
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QUOTE(Bonescythe @ Feb 20 2013, 10:50 AM) CAP is one day job.. Up up up up up and then die... Good point. CSL is up first. Then down down.. side line and then up up up up until gao gao and now down down down until more gao gao IHH slowly up and maintain good. All different one woh |
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Feb 20 2013, 11:17 AM
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QUOTE(Matt4wd @ Feb 20 2013, 11:11 AM) I thought every IPOs 1st day could have speculate up up up gao gao then down VERY GAO |
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Feb 20 2013, 11:18 AM
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Place 10 contracts on Short FKLI then you mah can get a 80% hit chance mini jackpot lo
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Feb 20 2013, 11:29 AM
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KPS + KHSB gonna blow up de la.
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Feb 20 2013, 11:29 AM
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And don't forget about Puncak lar.. Cuz also cronies
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Feb 20 2013, 12:38 PM
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QUOTE(Bonescythe @ Feb 20 2013, 11:29 AM) KPS + KHSB gonna blow up de la. Selangor State Election Koming Today is last call, tomorrow is blow up call This post has been edited by SKY 1809: Feb 20 2013, 12:39 PM |
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Feb 20 2013, 01:25 PM
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QUOTE(Icehart @ Feb 19 2013, 11:01 PM) Food & Girls. haha.. i lived there before and i gotta agree with you on thesefood really kns.. their so called most famous stalls are big disappointments girls.. yeah, you got lots of hot gals.. but hot =/= pretty just my personal taste |
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Feb 20 2013, 02:10 PM
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QUOTE(jy1905 @ Feb 20 2013, 01:25 PM) haha.. i lived there before and i gotta agree with you on these Just like investments, some " hot" n speculative and others are fundamentally based decisions.....food really kns.. their so called most famous stalls are big disappointments girls.. yeah, you got lots of hot gals.. but hot =/= pretty just my personal tasteHot and spicy.....pretty ..... may not be good for long term investing. Again, it is about choice, short or long term ( combinations such as ONS ......... ) |
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Feb 20 2013, 02:41 PM
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QUOTE(Bonescythe @ Feb 20 2013, 11:29 AM) KPS + KHSB gonna blow up de la. Gong Hei Fatt Choy bro.Today is last call, tomorrow is blow up call It seems the KHSB shares will be worth 0.760 is it??? Cheers bro Bone..... |
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Feb 20 2013, 03:57 PM
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Parliament has to be dissolved this week if the general election is to be held in
Mar. Sources said it was now likely that the 13th GE will be held in Apr instead, even though Datuk Seri Najib Tun Razak was very keen to have everything "done and dusted" by the end of Mar. Three important things are still ongoing and would need a week or two to complete before Najib can even see the Yang di-Pertuan Agong for his consent to dissolve Parliament, said a party official. He identified the three incomplete matters as the BN manifesto, candidates' list and general preparation of the coalition. It is learnt that there would be several BN manifestos for this election: the main one for the whole country, one for women and the other for the young. Several crucial states, especially the ones BN is trying to recapture, would also have their own proposal which have yet to get approval from Najib. As for the candidates' list, Najib's headache seem to be the choice of the proposed mentris besar for Kedah and Selangor - two states that BN is keenest to recapture. Daybreak Malaysia February 20, 2013 5 The BN headquarters has only just started issuing banners, bunting, computers and other infrastructure support this week and this is supposed to go on for at least two weeks for the items to get to the grassroots level. (Star) |
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Feb 20 2013, 04:27 PM
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QUOTE(yok70 @ Feb 20 2013, 03:57 PM) Parliament has to be dissolved this week if the general election is to be held in Mar. Sources said it was now likely that the 13th GE will be held in Apr instead, even though Datuk Seri Najib Tun Razak was very keen to have everything "done and dusted" by the end of Mar. Three important things are still ongoing and would need a week or two to complete before Najib can even see the Yang di-Pertuan Agong for his consent to dissolve Parliament, said a party official. He identified the three incomplete matters as the BN manifesto, candidates' list and general preparation of the coalition. It is learnt that there would be several BN manifestos for this election: the main one for the whole country, one for women and the other for the young. Several crucial states, especially the ones BN is trying to recapture, would also have their own proposal which have yet to get approval from Najib. As for the candidates' list, Najib's headache seem to be the choice of the proposed mentris besar for Kedah and Selangor - two states that BN is keenest to recapture. Daybreak Malaysia February 20, 2013 5 The BN headquarters has only just started issuing banners, bunting, computers and other infrastructure support this week and this is supposed to go on for at least two weeks for the items to get to the grassroots level. (Star) early or late also not the matter, because bore on waiting liao |
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Feb 20 2013, 04:28 PM
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QUOTE(SKY 1809 @ Feb 20 2013, 12:38 PM) Selangor State Election Koming Come or don't come.. Don't care la.. As long as it will go up |
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Feb 20 2013, 04:28 PM
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QUOTE(flamestudio @ Feb 20 2013, 02:41 PM) Gong Hei Fatt Choy bro. Maybe reaching 80 cents.. Who knows?It seems the KHSB shares will be worth 0.760 is it??? Cheers bro Bone..... |
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Feb 20 2013, 04:31 PM
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QUOTE(StupidGuyPlayComp @ Feb 20 2013, 04:27 PM) early or late also not the matter, because bore on waiting liaojust give him all the time until June. Meanwhile just hands off the mkt while studying what to buy... no need to speculate or worry at all "when is GE"... |
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Feb 20 2013, 04:36 PM
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QUOTE(mopster @ Feb 20 2013, 04:31 PM) heheheh agree just give him all the time until June. Meanwhile just hands off the mkt while studying what to buy... no need to speculate or worry at all "when is GE"... big drop is good, thats opportunities to buy.................... I believe many of forumers here not active since CI 1600 above, no bargain to buy |
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Feb 20 2013, 04:44 PM
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Thing is the later it is, the more I'm selling. Because I react very slow one.
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Feb 20 2013, 04:46 PM
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Ahhh TM is just so close, I want to buy!!!!
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Feb 20 2013, 04:46 PM
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I found out that many many planters recently announces their plan of increasing production etc.
However, none of them speak about increase earnings. Quite a joke. |
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Feb 20 2013, 04:51 PM
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Telco stock good for catching rebound.
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Feb 20 2013, 04:54 PM
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QUOTE(panasonic88 @ Feb 20 2013, 04:51 PM) Telco stock good for catching rebound. Telco, FF favorite. but high in PER |
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Feb 20 2013, 04:56 PM
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QUOTE(StupidGuyPlayComp @ Feb 20 2013, 04:54 PM) Telco, FF favorite. but high in PERBuy when EPF dispose, sell when EPF acquire/push up the price. Repeat, profits. |
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Feb 20 2013, 05:05 PM
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QUOTE(panasonic88 @ Feb 20 2013, 04:56 PM) They are good for trading, at this moment. Nice trading! Buy when EPF dispose, sell when EPF acquire/push up the price. Repeat, profits. And I like to trade REITs also. Fall i hold, up I sell. |
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Feb 20 2013, 05:07 PM
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I feel now is the calm before big storm.
1600 is not gonna be the bottom, like what OSK keeps saying. |
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Feb 20 2013, 05:11 PM
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QUOTE(yok70 @ Feb 20 2013, 05:05 PM) Nice trading! And I like to trade REITs also. Fall i hold, up I sell. no buy button? |
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Feb 20 2013, 05:14 PM
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QUOTE(felixmask @ Feb 20 2013, 05:11 PM) no buy button?This post has been edited by yok70: Feb 20 2013, 05:14 PM |
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Feb 20 2013, 05:30 PM
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Got Terminate button mah?
Terminate the trading account |
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Feb 20 2013, 06:26 PM
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QUOTE(yok70 @ Feb 20 2013, 05:07 PM) I feel now is the calm before big storm. 1600 is not gonna be the bottom, like what OSK keeps saying. All analyst talk bad of market in short term |
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Feb 20 2013, 06:27 PM
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QUOTE(Bonescythe @ Feb 20 2013, 05:30 PM) Got Terminate button mah? Terminate the trading account need terminate, no eye see? So need to break the phone? block the call to remiser to open back accountThis post has been edited by StupidGuyPlayComp: Feb 20 2013, 06:28 PM |
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Feb 20 2013, 06:42 PM
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QUOTE(StupidGuyPlayComp @ Feb 20 2013, 06:26 PM) All analyst talk bad of market in short term I didn't press the "buy" button enough. |
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Feb 20 2013, 07:11 PM
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QUOTE(foofoosasa @ Feb 20 2013, 06:42 PM) Pls talk more My buy button kinda rosak, can buy occasionally. I didn't press the "buy" button enough. Maybe in line with market mood............. |
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Feb 20 2013, 10:13 PM
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today i ter-buy fitters
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Feb 20 2013, 10:46 PM
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QUOTE(SKY 1809 @ Feb 20 2013, 07:11 PM) My buy button kinda rosak, can buy occasionally. I just wish some good correction to few blue chips. Some fresh ammo are ready Maybe in line with market mood............. We still don't see any GE effect to stock market yet anyway. Anyway just stay away and see how market mood first. |
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Feb 20 2013, 10:48 PM
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Hi guys,
recently I am looking at Dialog and today I read few research report by few houses. Most of the researcher used DCF with diff WACC. Just wondering how do they determined the WACC and where do they obtain the CF for each Centralised Terminal Facilties(CTF). Since each terminal Cash Flow are not provided publicly and each research house report has diff CF for the same CTF. Hence I am curious how these analyst figure out each terminal Cash flow then. Pls refer to the attachment for the screenshot. Maybank report: Kertih CTF: WACC - 10.5% Amresearch report: Kertih CTF: WACC - 7% RHB report: Kertih CTF: WACC - 7.2% OSK report: Kertih CTF: WACC - 6% Anyone here und how they derived the Value for each CTF? Attached thumbnail(s) 
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Feb 20 2013, 10:53 PM
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QUOTE(cristiano7mu @ Feb 20 2013, 10:48 PM) Hi guys, For me, the adjustment of the WACC just to achieve their own object. If the want to value XYZ stock higher, just put the WACC lower. Just pluck in the number to make the value appear inline with their objective recently I am looking at Dialog and today I read few research report by few houses. Most of the researcher used DCF with diff WACC. Just wondering how do they determined the WACC and where do they obtain the CF for each Centralised Terminal Facilties(CTF). Since each terminal Cash Flow are not provided publicly and each research house report has diff CF for the same CTF. Hence I am curious how these analyst figure out each terminal Cash flow then. Pls refer to the attachment for the screenshot. Maybank report: Kertih CTF: WACC - 10.5% Amresearch report: Kertih CTF: WACC - 7% RHB report: Kertih CTF: WACC - 7.2% OSK report: Kertih CTF: WACC - 6% Anyone here und how they derived the Value for each CTF? .That why I never trust any research valuation. Pretty bullshit in my opinion. This post has been edited by foofoosasa: Feb 20 2013, 10:53 PM |
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Feb 20 2013, 10:59 PM
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QUOTE(foofoosasa @ Feb 20 2013, 10:53 PM) For me, the adjustment of the WACC just to achieve their own object. If the want to value XYZ stock higher, just put the WACC lower. Just pluck in the number to make the value appear inline with their objective hahaha i was thinking the same but how bout the DCF part? Any idea how they determine the CF? .That why I never trust any research valuation. Pretty bullshit in my opinion. DCF = CF / (1 + wacc) etc etc etc They simply adjust wacc to get what they want. CF part Also simply come out with an amount to get the DCF they wanted? This post has been edited by cristiano7mu: Feb 20 2013, 11:00 PM |
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Feb 20 2013, 11:09 PM
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QUOTE(cristiano7mu @ Feb 20 2013, 10:59 PM) hahaha i was thinking the same but how bout the DCF part? Any idea how they determine the CF? Pretty much the same I think, just they back by some "prove" ( pretty bad prove). Probably put in scenario cast like in worst,best or normal etc etc and then estimate the cash flow based on the past year data. Fancy & Complicated.DCF = CF / (1 + wacc) etc etc etc They simply adjust wacc to get what they want. CF part Also simply come out with an amount to get the DCF they wanted? And their value often get adjust by market sentiments too. |
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Feb 21 2013, 12:02 AM
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QUOTE(foofoosasa @ Feb 20 2013, 10:46 PM) I just wish some good correction to few blue chips. Some fresh ammo are ready Well, CI at 1600plus is no where near Bottom ( to scoop up many as we like ) We still don't see any GE effect to stock market yet anyway. Anyway just stay away and see how market mood first.What goes up . sooner or later would come down. Thing is CI is always on high side before the election ( 308 case ) , does not matter which party wins ....... Not talking about the magic, but just some little bit of logic. Chances and probability work too. Patience, patience and more patience This post has been edited by SKY 1809: Feb 21 2013, 12:07 AM |
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Feb 21 2013, 12:09 AM
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QUOTE(SKY 1809 @ Feb 21 2013, 12:02 AM) Well, CI at 1600plus is no where near Bottom ( to scoop up many as we like ) What goes up . sooner or later would come down. Not talking about the magic, but just some little bit of logic. Patience, patience and more patience Anyway who are the net buyer the recent weeks? |
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Feb 21 2013, 12:21 AM
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Let's see whether will the parliament dissolve tomorrow based on rumours.
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Feb 21 2013, 12:48 AM
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Once it break 1600, u and I will know what is going to happen
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Feb 21 2013, 03:48 AM
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QUOTE(foofoosasa @ Feb 21 2013, 12:09 AM) Anyway who are the net buyer the recent weeks? And I wondering why??? |
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Feb 21 2013, 08:51 AM
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QUOTE(yok70 @ Feb 21 2013, 03:48 AM) FF. maybe just as simple as be greedy when the whole malaysia is in fearAnd I wondering why??? |
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Feb 21 2013, 09:09 AM
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local institution selling, retail selling, so only buyer ma FF lo.
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Feb 21 2013, 09:31 AM
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selling season is on again
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Feb 21 2013, 09:38 AM
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But nothing on my watch list looks like on sale
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Feb 21 2013, 09:47 AM
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US stock market and HSI plunge too..
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Feb 21 2013, 09:50 AM
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1600 support very strong wo
use hammer also cannot break |
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Feb 21 2013, 09:56 AM
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QUOTE(ham_revilo @ Feb 21 2013, 09:50 AM) 1600 support very strong wo When break that time, underwear also gone de lo use hammer also cannot break |
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Feb 21 2013, 09:56 AM
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Now faster place short short short in FKLI
Nanti jatuh macam durian liao de la...Short all you can. |
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Feb 21 2013, 09:57 AM
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QUOTE(Bonescythe @ Feb 21 2013, 09:56 AM) Now faster place short short short in FKLI Place short .. ? SELL CALL Nanti jatuh macam durian liao de la...Short all you can. |
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Feb 21 2013, 09:58 AM
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QUOTE(Bonescythe @ Feb 21 2013, 09:56 AM) Now faster place short short short in FKLI another shortie detected Nanti jatuh macam durian liao de la...Short all you can. |
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Feb 21 2013, 09:58 AM
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QUOTE(iVW @ Feb 21 2013, 09:57 AM) Place short .. ? SELL CALL FKLI mah |
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Feb 21 2013, 09:59 AM
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QUOTE(ham_revilo @ Feb 21 2013, 09:58 AM) another shortie detected I am not short.. I am 6ft tall And I dun wear shorts |
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Feb 21 2013, 10:06 AM
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Gold price big drop, my investment lose money |
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Feb 21 2013, 10:07 AM
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QUOTE(ham_revilo @ Feb 21 2013, 09:09 AM) local institution selling, retail selling, so only buyer ma FF lo. All are selling, they use left hand sell, right hand buy..............end up still all selling |
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Feb 21 2013, 10:20 AM
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PowerRoot ada Root oo..
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Feb 21 2013, 10:47 AM
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QUOTE(Bonescythe @ Feb 21 2013, 10:20 AM) PowerRoot ada Root oo.. That Tongkat Ali very powerful. But again GE13 is the big problem. I not dare to buy now else later root also kena cabut! |
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Feb 21 2013, 12:04 PM
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Gold price drops gao gao!!!
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Feb 21 2013, 01:34 PM
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Wow, red sea across region, including gold and commodities.
Long time, no see such "redness". |
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Feb 21 2013, 01:35 PM
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QUOTE(StupidGuyPlayComp @ Feb 21 2013, 10:07 AM) All are selling, they use left hand sell, right hand buy..............end up still all selling |
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Feb 21 2013, 02:26 PM
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QUOTE(cherroy @ Feb 21 2013, 01:34 PM) Wow, red sea across region, including gold and commodities. Long time, no see such "redness". It is disadvantage for Asia & commodities market if US's economy recover..............because the hot fund are retreating.since few years ago, the hot fund parking at Asia & commodities market is because of QE. but now the QE bring no effect to USD. The worry part is China's bubble..........hope it only soft landing |
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Feb 21 2013, 02:41 PM
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I spotted some stock with good dividend yield (>6%), however due to election fear & investors opt to have more cash, they are left unattended.
To name a few, Luxchem, Zhulian, Tambun, Maxis, Wellcal, Bstead Reits price on the other hand, standing firm with not much discount. |
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Feb 21 2013, 02:53 PM
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I think KLCI will go below 1600 before GE if continue like that...
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Feb 21 2013, 03:02 PM
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QUOTE(panasonic88 @ Feb 21 2013, 02:41 PM) I spotted some stock with good dividend yield (>6%), however due to election fear & investors opt to have more cash, they are left unattended. Qcapital got some discount going on. To name a few, Luxchem, Zhulian, Tambun, Maxis, Wellcal, Bstead Reits price on the other hand, standing firm with not much discount. |
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Feb 21 2013, 03:10 PM
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Anybody bought anything? My watch list just -0.5% only. Hardly any bargain. I'm now about 90% cash. Waiting waiting. Fingers so itchy liao.
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Feb 21 2013, 03:10 PM
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QUOTE(cherroy @ Feb 21 2013, 03:02 PM) Qcapital got some discount going on. Rough calculateAt RM1.08, is getting 7% yield. Do you personally prefer Reits that constantly add in / acquire new assets into their portfolio (like Axreit/Sunreit) or you prefer the other way? |
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Feb 21 2013, 03:14 PM
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QUOTE(simplesmile @ Feb 21 2013, 04:10 PM) Anybody bought anything? My watch list just -0.5% only. Hardly any bargain. I'm now about 90% cash. Waiting waiting. Fingers so itchy liao. Mee too, need to tahan for one month only start shooting What u think of CSL? |
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Feb 21 2013, 03:14 PM
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QUOTE(ngaisteve1 @ Feb 21 2013, 03:53 PM) I think KLCI will go below 1600 before GE if continue like that... CI harmmer precisely 1600 and rise sharply on U turn. Will this become a legendary rebound?This post has been edited by primepeng: Feb 21 2013, 03:15 PM |
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QUOTE(simplesmile @ Feb 21 2013, 03:10 PM) Anybody bought anything? My watch list just -0.5% only. Hardly any bargain. I'm now about 90% cash. Waiting waiting. Fingers so itchy liao. Me is watching & at the same time compiling my ideal portfolio with >8% yieldGot KPI to meet at year end Need some panic selling. Not necessary to buy after GE. |
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Feb 21 2013, 03:16 PM
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QUOTE(ngaisteve1 @ Feb 21 2013, 03:14 PM) Mee too, need to tahan for one month only start shooting CSL got come out new dvd meh?What u think of CSL? |
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Feb 21 2013, 03:18 PM
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Feb 21 2013, 03:19 PM
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QUOTE(panasonic88 @ Feb 21 2013, 03:15 PM) Me is watching & at the same time compiling my ideal portfolio with >8% yield I also got KPI. My KPI is to recover all my losses from last year Got KPI to meet at year end Need some panic selling. Not necessary to buy after GE. So far 50% recovered |
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Feb 21 2013, 03:20 PM
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QUOTE(simplesmile @ Feb 21 2013, 03:19 PM) I also got KPI. My KPI is to recover all my losses from last year So far 50% recovered Oh I tot last year was kinda bullish? Bought wrong counter? |
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Feb 21 2013, 03:22 PM
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QUOTE(panasonic88 @ Feb 21 2013, 03:15 PM) Me is watching & at the same time compiling my ideal portfolio with >8% yield hi panasonic88,Got KPI to meet at year end Need some panic selling. Not necessary to buy after GE. how you compiling company that hv >8% yield? |
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Feb 21 2013, 03:24 PM
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QUOTE(panasonic88 @ Feb 21 2013, 03:20 PM) Oh I tot last year was kinda bullish? Bought wrong counter? |
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QUOTE(felixmask @ Feb 21 2013, 03:22 PM) hi panasonic88, I do have some counter that giving me more than 10% yield like DLADY, GAB which bought years ago at cheaper price.how you compiling company that hv >8% yield? |
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Feb 21 2013, 03:40 PM
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QUOTE(panasonic88 @ Feb 21 2013, 03:35 PM) I do have some counter that giving me more than 10% yield like DLADY, GAB which bought years ago at cheaper price. Dlady has been consolidating for the past few weeks. Planning to top up any? |
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Feb 21 2013, 03:45 PM
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QUOTE(billeu @ Feb 21 2013, 03:40 PM) Dlady has been consolidating for the past few weeks. Planning to top up any? Yes if I don't have any.No because I want to diversify to more counters. |
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Feb 21 2013, 03:48 PM
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KPI? my 20% target KPI always cant achieve |
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Feb 21 2013, 04:02 PM
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QUOTE(panasonic88 @ Feb 21 2013, 03:10 PM) Rough calculate At 6.x% net yield, slightly better than EPF. At RM1.08, is getting 7% yield. Do you personally prefer Reits that constantly add in / acquire new assets into their portfolio (like Axreit/Sunreit) or you prefer the other way? 2x more than FD. The more important is the portfolio asset especially the asset location. If adding in so so property with high vacancy one, then no good already. Having said that, constantly add in could mean potential higher distribution due to leveraging effect. So far Axreit is the one manage to add in more properties without shareholder need to fork out a single cent while without increase the borrowing ratio, this is ideal scenario. If add in more properties, while shareholders need to fork out money to subscribe right issue one, then no good (from my perspective). Quality of asset is very important that determine the reit is suit to long term holding or not. |
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Feb 21 2013, 04:03 PM
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Investors here always react well ( more active ) to falling markets..........
Time to hibernate .............. |
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Feb 21 2013, 04:06 PM
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QUOTE(SKY 1809 @ Feb 21 2013, 04:03 PM) Investors here always react well ( more active ) to falling markets.......... Because a sudden strong blood smell wake up the many hibernating bear. Time to hibernate .............. |
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Feb 21 2013, 04:08 PM
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QUOTE(SKY 1809 @ Feb 21 2013, 04:03 PM) Investors here always react well ( more active ) to falling markets.......... Time to hibernate .............. Most of here are fundamental based, market high in price, no bargain........thats why all quiet |
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Feb 21 2013, 04:09 PM
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QUOTE(cherroy @ Feb 21 2013, 04:06 PM) Because a sudden strong blood smell wake up the many hibernating bear. Bear hungry..then BULL run.. |
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Feb 21 2013, 04:11 PM
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QUOTE(StupidGuyPlayComp @ Feb 21 2013, 04:08 PM) Most of here are fundamental based, market high in price, no bargain........thats why all quiet |
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Feb 21 2013, 04:12 PM
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QUOTE(StupidGuyPlayComp @ Feb 21 2013, 03:48 PM) KPI? my 20% target KPI always cant achieveAlso reviewing your portfolio from time to time |
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Feb 21 2013, 04:13 PM
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Itchy hand swing trade Carlsberg.
Hoping got big ang paw. |
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Feb 21 2013, 04:14 PM
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I need to buy some mopiko. But now heavy rain outside.
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Feb 21 2013, 04:16 PM
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yok, tahan one month only ma
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Feb 21 2013, 04:17 PM
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could this be the real rebound or a tarp?
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Feb 21 2013, 04:20 PM
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QUOTE(ngaisteve1 @ Feb 21 2013, 04:16 PM) yok, tahan one month only ma Just need a B & W LCD to control the colors ............ |
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Feb 21 2013, 04:22 PM
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PBBANK annual report is out.
Doing very well as usual |
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Feb 21 2013, 04:23 PM
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QUOTE(ngaisteve1 @ Feb 21 2013, 04:16 PM) yok, tahan one month only ma i can tahan by biting my finger. 2nd best method. |
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Feb 21 2013, 04:24 PM
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QUOTE(ham_revilo @ Feb 21 2013, 04:17 PM) could this be the real rebound or a tarp? not rebound, definitely a tarp. |
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Feb 21 2013, 04:24 PM
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QUOTE(SKY 1809 @ Feb 21 2013, 04:20 PM) Just need a B & W LCD to control the colors ............ LOL epic statement.. hang seng a hang seng, why so green today.. In chinese web they use green for drop lol. Cos for chinese red is good This post has been edited by ben3003: Feb 21 2013, 04:26 PM |
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Feb 21 2013, 04:32 PM
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CI may close green............
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Feb 21 2013, 04:41 PM
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QUOTE(StupidGuyPlayComp @ Feb 21 2013, 04:32 PM) CI may close green............ Want to make the one and only one market that close in green? Luckily quit trading FKLI long time ago, really unpredictable. |
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Feb 21 2013, 04:41 PM
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QUOTE(StupidGuyPlayComp @ Feb 21 2013, 04:32 PM) CI may close green............ looks like it. maybe want push back 1700 and then announce GE and then drop 100. |
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Feb 21 2013, 04:43 PM
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QUOTE(cherroy @ Feb 21 2013, 04:41 PM) Want to make the one and only one market that close in green? Luckily quit trading FKLI long time ago, really unpredictable. QUOTE(yok70 @ Feb 21 2013, 04:41 PM) looks like it. maybe want push back 1700 and then announce GE and then drop 100. KLSE index is monopoly but the local funds |
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Feb 21 2013, 04:44 PM
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ding ding ding...green!
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Feb 21 2013, 04:44 PM
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QUOTE(cherroy @ Feb 21 2013, 04:41 PM) Want to make the one and only one market that close in green? Malaysia boleh Luckily quit trading FKLI long time ago, really unpredictable. |
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Feb 21 2013, 04:47 PM
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definitely green. maybe....up 10 pts.
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Feb 21 2013, 04:48 PM
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neutral today no use, tomoro come again
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Feb 21 2013, 04:51 PM
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Malaysia Boleh BeeN "Yes" |
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Feb 21 2013, 04:59 PM
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close green?
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Feb 21 2013, 05:00 PM
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then osk will say, see, i told you 1600 very strong support. now still treat as consolidation. bla bla bla.
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Feb 21 2013, 05:06 PM
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todei is a good dei!
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Feb 21 2013, 05:23 PM
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Tiger Bank result
Earn more, give less, dividend -3c... http://www.bursamalaysia.com/market/listed...cements/1203101 |
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Feb 21 2013, 05:31 PM
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GAB give 20c
Last year give 10c only Increment of 100% |
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Feb 21 2013, 05:39 PM
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QUOTE(htt @ Feb 21 2013, 05:23 PM) Tiger Bank result Maybe Maybank needs cash for overseas M&A Earn more, give less, dividend -3c... http://www.bursamalaysia.com/market/listed...cements/1203101 |
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Feb 21 2013, 05:39 PM
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QUOTE(panasonic88 @ Feb 21 2013, 05:31 PM) GAB give 20c your yield is 20%.. Last year give 10c only Increment of 100% where you plan to celebrate |
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Feb 21 2013, 05:42 PM
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QUOTE(river.sand @ Feb 21 2013, 05:39 PM) Maybe Maybank needs cash for overseas M&A Actually 15c one-tier, so should be getting more I guess (for my case) YTLP no dividend? http://www.bursamalaysia.com/market/listed...cements/1203553 |
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Feb 21 2013, 06:28 PM
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Tambun is declaring a final dividend of 3.3 sen single tier! Mai god
I tot I just received 2c, here comes another ang pow~! |
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Feb 21 2013, 06:34 PM
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QUOTE(panasonic88 @ Feb 21 2013, 07:28 PM) Tambun is declaring a final dividend of 3.3 sen single tier! Mai god coldeye already gave signal... got 5.5 sen I tot I just received 2c, here comes another ang pow~! |
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Feb 21 2013, 07:35 PM
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QUOTE(panasonic88 @ Feb 21 2013, 06:28 PM) Tambun is declaring a final dividend of 3.3 sen single tier! Mai god reits like but cheaper than reits ( NAV ) I tot I just received 2c, here comes another ang pow~! |
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Feb 21 2013, 07:51 PM
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QUOTE(htt @ Feb 21 2013, 05:42 PM) According to Q report, says directors not recomending dividend for this quarter... yet cash in hand goes up from 9+ bil to 10+ bil in one Q This post has been edited by gark: Feb 21 2013, 07:51 PM |
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Feb 21 2013, 07:56 PM
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Aiyar I kill golden goose Hupseng
Guess tomorrow gonna open at 3.20 This post has been edited by panasonic88: Feb 21 2013, 07:57 PM |
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Feb 21 2013, 09:13 PM
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QUOTE(panasonic88 @ Feb 21 2013, 07:56 PM) Aiyar I kill golden goose Hupseng Me too Guess tomorrow gonna open at 3.20 Sold to cover margin call and never had the chance to buy back. This post has been edited by simplesmile: Feb 21 2013, 09:14 PM |
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Feb 21 2013, 09:41 PM
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QUOTE(SKY 1809 @ Feb 21 2013, 04:03 PM) Investors here always react well ( more active ) to falling markets.......... Time to hibernate .............. Have you ready with your ammo? but today my portfolio really red |
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Feb 21 2013, 10:11 PM
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QUOTE(kb2005 @ Feb 21 2013, 10:47 AM) That Tongkat Ali very powerful. But again GE13 is the big problem. I not dare to buy now else later root also kena cabut! Memang ada root. Those with balls only can get a stronger root |
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Feb 21 2013, 10:11 PM
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what stock in this? saw this in the top loser page
DIN040000223 price 100.45 |
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Feb 21 2013, 10:15 PM
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Dana Infra.. Some Infra Bond
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Feb 21 2013, 10:35 PM
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QUOTE(panasonic88 @ Feb 21 2013, 05:31 PM) GAB give 20c Carlsberg should be announcing dividend soon too. Last year give 10c only Increment of 100% |
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Feb 21 2013, 10:38 PM
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my CookieMonster giving 18c divvy!!!! full year 30c!!!! omg.. @__@
tomolo i go buy some biscuits!!! nestle annualized earnings above RM2 liao.. klccp 4.5c divvy hmm today's reports not bad.... --- wahhh HDD maker JCY and Notion in the red again... scary... This post has been edited by mopster: Feb 21 2013, 10:51 PM |
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Feb 21 2013, 10:55 PM
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QUOTE(Suicidal Guy @ Feb 21 2013, 10:35 PM) Carlsberg should be announcing dividend soon too. Last year too many marriage and giving birth.. So beer consumption also increase. |
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Feb 21 2013, 11:07 PM
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Axiata 27 cent dividend
YTL Power is really dissapointing |
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Feb 21 2013, 11:53 PM
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QUOTE(Bonescythe @ Feb 21 2013, 10:55 PM) Last year too many marriage and giving birth.. So beer consumption also increase. Too many depression too.. therefore people went on drinking binge. Yam Sing!!! |
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Feb 22 2013, 12:43 AM
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QUOTE(yhtan @ Feb 21 2013, 11:07 PM) Axiata 27 cent dividend i think that is the biggest divvy they ever give. YTL Power is really dissapointing |
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Feb 22 2013, 06:02 AM
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Dow Jones red again today.. but abit only haha.. hopefully hang seng today good..
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Feb 22 2013, 08:22 AM
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Heard they dissolve parliment today wo.
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Feb 22 2013, 08:26 AM
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QUOTE(ngaisteve1 @ Feb 22 2013, 08:22 AM) Heard they dissolve parliment today wo. waffak. sure bo?i dont think he will do it today as his schedule already tight until march right? |
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Feb 22 2013, 08:26 AM
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QUOTE(ngaisteve1 @ Feb 22 2013, 08:22 AM) Heard they dissolve parliment today wo. waffak. sure bo?i dont think he will do it today as his schedule already tight until march right? |
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Feb 22 2013, 09:17 AM
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QUOTE(ngaisteve1 @ Feb 22 2013, 08:22 AM) Heard they dissolve parliment today wo. BeeN hv send BR1M 2.0 invitation for Ceremony Collection for KL region. Could be reason BeeN to show thier last straw of action buying rakyat heart. |
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Feb 22 2013, 09:18 AM
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QUOTE(danmooncake @ Feb 21 2013, 11:53 PM) Too many depression too.. therefore people went on drinking binge. Yam Sing!!! Got money also drink.No money also drink (Ask friend to belanja drink). No matter how, also drink.. Hahaha |
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Feb 22 2013, 09:38 AM
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QUOTE(Bonescythe @ Feb 21 2013, 10:20 AM) PowerRoot ada Root oo.. PWRT 1.23 on Monday, today already hit 1.35, 4 days already 12 cent increase, i think can hit 1.50 by next weektheir Ah Huat White Coffee making them "huat" ? |
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Feb 22 2013, 09:43 AM
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QUOTE(yhtan @ Feb 21 2013, 11:07 PM) Axiata 27 cent dividend YTLC is giving higher dividend than YTLP which gives nothing... looks like they are pressing YTLP price down so they can take over... YTL Power is really dissapointing Yet YTLP free cash flow is still strong at 500 mil...This post has been edited by gark: Feb 22 2013, 09:43 AM |
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QUOTE(firewire @ Feb 22 2013, 09:38 AM) PWRT 1.23 on Monday, today already hit 1.35, 4 days already 12 cent increase, i think can hit 1.50 by next week Ah Huat is one of the most expensive instant coffee in the market.their Ah Huat White Coffee making them "huat" ? Their radio/tv marketing really kuat. Tried the "super rich" flavoured, tasted not bad. |
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Feb 22 2013, 10:00 AM
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QUOTE(staind @ Feb 22 2013, 12:43 AM) i think that is the biggest divvy they ever give. Yes, company business back on track and growing strong.Was surprise of the special dividend of 12 cent QUOTE(gark @ Feb 22 2013, 09:43 AM) YTLC is giving higher dividend than YTLP which gives nothing... looks like they are pressing YTLP price down so they can take over... No eye see Yet YTLP free cash flow is still strong at 500 mil... This family recent action really piss off a lot of minority shareholder QUOTE(panasonic88 @ Feb 22 2013, 09:52 AM) Ah Huat is one of the most expensive instant coffee in the market. They hire "Ah Niu" for few millions, plus those marketing expenses, all of this will transfer to consumer Their radio/tv marketing really kuat. Tried the "super rich" flavoured, tasted not bad. |
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Feb 22 2013, 10:26 AM
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QUOTE(mopster @ Feb 21 2013, 10:38 PM) my CookieMonster giving 18c divvy!!!! full year 30c!!!! omg.. @__@ CookieMonster = Hupseng right? tomolo i go buy some biscuits!!! nestle annualized earnings above RM2 liao.. klccp 4.5c divvy hmm today's reports not bad.... --- wahhh HDD maker JCY and Notion in the red again... scary... No wonder I see my portfolio up |
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Feb 22 2013, 10:36 AM
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QUOTE(panasonic88 @ Feb 22 2013, 09:52 AM) Ah Huat is one of the most expensive instant coffee in the market. haha , drinking coffee comes with a dream, to strike something bigger......HuatTheir radio/tv marketing really kuat. Tried the "super rich" flavoured, tasted not bad. Drink more , and Dream more. Do not stay awake for too long........ This post has been edited by SKY 1809: Feb 22 2013, 10:38 AM |
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Feb 22 2013, 10:54 AM
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Once market stop, forum inactive again
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QUOTE(foofoosasa @ Feb 22 2013, 10:54 AM) Once market stop, forum inactive again Minimum wages start to impact on company performances.......bottom line profits getting super thin.This post has been edited by SKY 1809: Feb 22 2013, 11:19 AM |
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Feb 22 2013, 11:19 AM
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QUOTE(SKY 1809 @ Feb 22 2013, 11:08 AM) Minimum wages start to impact on company performances.......bottom line profits getting super thin. Labour intensive business should be pretty bad impacted.How to become active , by drinking more beer and start dreaming perhaps The Virtual power of dreaming ...... if you're boss, you raise some of the worker to RM800, some other more skilled employee, you force to add more wages to them to to make them "comfortable". But many business owner start to raise price, inflation sky rocket again. End up ikan bilis like me pay the bill  This post has been edited by foofoosasa: Feb 22 2013, 11:20 AM |
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Feb 22 2013, 11:21 AM
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QUOTE(foofoosasa @ Feb 22 2013, 11:19 AM) Labour intensive business should be pretty bad impacted. HDD Ind s quite badly hit.if you're boss, you raise some of the worker to RM800, some other more skilled employee, you force to add more wages to them to to make them "comfortable". But many business owner start to raise price, inflation sky rocket again. End up ikan bilis like me pay the bill U think they can raise the prices of HDD again |
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Feb 22 2013, 11:24 AM
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QUOTE(SKY 1809 @ Feb 22 2013, 11:21 AM) HDD Ind s quite badly hit. Neh, these business usually unable to pass their cost to consumer. That's is the main reason why I not interested in stock like JCY.U think they can raise the prices of HDD again so depends which industry you're talking about lo... Anyway you work in this industry? This post has been edited by foofoosasa: Feb 22 2013, 11:27 AM |
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Feb 22 2013, 11:32 AM
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QUOTE(foofoosasa @ Feb 22 2013, 11:24 AM) Neh, these business usually unable to pass their cost to consumer. That's is the main reason why I not interested in stock like JCY. No.so depends which industry you're talking about lo... Anyway you work in this industry? many like the Wood & furniture, Petrol stations , start to feel the long pain of min wages What else not impacted Some more got price control in many food items. |
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Feb 22 2013, 11:37 AM
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QUOTE(SKY 1809 @ Feb 22 2013, 11:32 AM) No. furniture industry was not impacted since the lowest wages one already exceeded the minimum wages, others like steels and wood manufacturers (raw material producers) got no idea .... many like the Wood & furniture, Petrol stations , start to feel the long pain of min wages What else not impacted Some more got price control in many food items. |
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Feb 22 2013, 11:39 AM
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QUOTE(SKY 1809 @ Feb 22 2013, 11:32 AM) No. Probably you're right.many like the Wood & furniture, Petrol stations , start to feel the long pain of min wages What else not impacted Some more got price control in many food items. Many boss lay off worker if they unable to pass these cost. Really irresponsible action by government in my opinion. |
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Feb 22 2013, 11:40 AM
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QUOTE(foofoosasa @ Feb 22 2013, 11:19 AM) Labour intensive business should be pretty bad impacted. Most of the SMEs going to suffer, staff cost increase by 20-30% AFAIK. Most of the wages impact is because the overtime claim, since minimum wages per hour increase, Overtime claim increase too.if you're boss, you raise some of the worker to RM800, some other more skilled employee, you force to add more wages to them to to make them "comfortable". But many business owner start to raise price, inflation sky rocket again. End up ikan bilis like me pay the bill And you are right, this minimum wages going to create another inflation wave Btw government should have study carefully before rolling out this minimum wages act This post has been edited by yhtan: Feb 22 2013, 11:40 AM |
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QUOTE(cwhong @ Feb 22 2013, 11:37 AM) furniture industry was not impacted since the lowest wages one already exceeded the minimum wages, others like steels and wood manufacturers (raw material producers) got no idea .... well, F workers in wood related ind are on strikes in Johor for min wages.......... |
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Feb 22 2013, 11:43 AM
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QUOTE(yhtan @ Feb 22 2013, 11:40 AM) Most of the SMEs going to suffer, staff cost increase by 20-30% AFAIK. Most of the wages impact is because the overtime claim, since minimum wages per hour increase, Overtime claim increase too. What can do, politician like to give sweet to win vote.End up making it worse.And you are right, this minimum wages going to create another inflation wave Btw government should have study carefully before rolling out this minimum wages act Seeing my bank account and the dollar becoming less value , really |
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Feb 22 2013, 11:43 AM
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QUOTE(yhtan @ Feb 22 2013, 11:40 AM) Most of the SMEs going to suffer, staff cost increase by 20-30% AFAIK. Most of the wages impact is because the overtime claim, since minimum wages per hour increase, Overtime claim increase too. imho gov implement this to please the majority in favour for their precious votes so no need to study carefully since the current problems is the main threats ...... (13!!!!)And you are right, this minimum wages going to create another inflation wave Btw government should have study carefully before rolling out this minimum wages act |
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Feb 22 2013, 11:47 AM
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QUOTE(SKY 1809 @ Feb 22 2013, 11:43 AM) well, F workers in wood related ind are on strikes in Johor for min wages.......... ohh, really i think that is really big manufacturer. i refer to sme furniture industry ..... and F&N came out a statement saying theirs workers already paid more than the minimum wages so no impact on their biz operating costs .... |
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QUOTE(cwhong @ Feb 22 2013, 11:43 AM) imho gov implement this to please the majority in favour for their precious votes so no need to study carefully since the current problems is the main threats ...... (13!!!!) Who else wins in GE, more problems ( economically ) would start to surface ........one by day. |
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Feb 22 2013, 11:49 AM
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I am waiting for another bloody drama in market, but end up nothing happen until now.
Guess time to hibernate again. |
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Feb 22 2013, 11:52 AM
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All Stars
23,851 posts Joined: Dec 2006
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QUOTE(foofoosasa @ Feb 22 2013, 11:49 AM) I am waiting for another bloody drama in market, but end up nothing happen until now. Calm Condition prior to perfect storm Guess time to hibernate again. |
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Feb 22 2013, 11:54 AM
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QUOTE(SKY 1809 @ Feb 22 2013, 11:52 AM) Calm Condition prior to perfect storm I hope so. Guess just pay my attention to other market while waiting the storm coming here. |
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Feb 22 2013, 12:07 PM
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264 posts Joined: Aug 2012
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Something cooking in COMPUGT???
5000 lots keep on walloping....... This post has been edited by flamephotography: Feb 22 2013, 12:08 PM |
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Feb 22 2013, 01:39 PM
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All Stars
17,875 posts Joined: Jan 2005
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QUOTE(SKY 1809 @ Feb 22 2013, 11:21 AM) HDD Ind s quite badly hit. Another flood in Thailand, HDD price sure surge again! U think they can raise the prices of HDD again |
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