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kejusan
post Feb 12 2013, 09:50 PM

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QUOTE(Patrick12 @ Feb 12 2013, 11:34 AM)
Hi all 408 owners,i am sort of undeciding whether to get the turbo or the 2.0NA.in town,i normally drive at about 60 to 80 kph whereas in highway just 100 to 130 kph only.I had tested the turbo, it was so powerful.I plan to use this car for at least 5 to 7 years, so I am worried about the turbo engine might be causing problems in the future.any advise?and any 2.0 owner here why u chose 2.0 instead of turbo?
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Patrick, i'm not power addict and like you, I only drive 110-130 at highway. I could safely say that overtaking with 2 person inside isn't an issue, even when going uphill (not steep). However, the engine will have to put in extra effort with 4-5 person inside or extra luggage in its massive boot.

However, the safety features and the electro-hydraulic steering on the turbo are 2 of the features which I wish was included as part of the NA package.

Being said that, after close to one year of ownership, I never regretted choosing NA over turbo :-D

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post Feb 12 2013, 09:56 PM

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QUOTE(kejusan @ Feb 12 2013, 09:50 PM)
Patrick, i'm not power addict and like you, I only drive 110-130 at highway. I could safely say that overtaking with 2 person inside isn't an issue, even when going uphill (not steep). However, the engine will have to put in extra effort with 4-5 person inside or extra luggage in its massive boot.

However, the safety features and the electro-hydraulic steering on the turbo are 2 of the features which I wish was included as part of the NA package.

Being said that, after close to one year of ownership, I never regretted choosing NA over turbo :-D
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What's the comparison for FC between turbo and NA version ?
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post Feb 12 2013, 10:17 PM

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QUOTE(blu3 @ Feb 12 2013, 09:56 PM)
What's the comparison for FC between turbo and NA version ?
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There will be no significant dif between that. On paper, 1.6T will have a better FC than 2.0NA. However, I think my FC will be higher than some NA owners even mine is 1.6T. I am quite an aggressive driver. So, its more to your own driving style.
Overall, the dif of FC will not be that noticeable.
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QUOTE(jfcheong @ Feb 12 2013, 10:17 PM)
There will be no significant dif between that. On paper, 1.6T will have a better FC than 2.0NA. However, I think my FC will be higher than some NA owners even mine is 1.6T. I am quite an aggressive driver. So, its more to your own driving style.
Overall, the dif of FC will not be that noticeable.
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Heavy foot kaki sure high FC le......hehehe! Anyway same here! biggrin.gif
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post Feb 12 2013, 10:43 PM

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QUOTE(kejusan @ Feb 12 2013, 09:50 PM)
Patrick, i'm not power addict and like you, I only drive 110-130 at highway. I could safely say that overtaking with 2 person inside isn't an issue, even when going uphill (not steep). However, the engine will have to put in extra effort with 4-5 person inside or extra luggage in its massive boot.

However, the safety features and the electro-hydraulic steering on the turbo are 2 of the features which I wish was included as part of the NA package.

Being said that, after close to one year of ownership, I never regretted choosing NA over turbo :-D
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For me, I find the NA quite responsive and also powerful. There's a certain way to treat this Lion. No doubt, standstil to century mile is rather slow vs thp, but once exceeded 100kmh, the speed will rise like crazy baby!

I'm now in Pg btw ( happy CNY!) and speed all the way lah - 160-180kh very easily ( 3am -6am & don't worry on safety or comment bla bla ;p)
So make no mistake if u think NA lags those higher performance cars. Plus u can easily overtake lorries on the tap!

Talking about Batu Ferringhi, just passed thru today :- family went to new theme park, Escape in Teluk Bahang. NA handles well and absorbs the lubangs lubangs well.


BTW My wife also agrees that 408NA performs much better in highways. It really a cruiser if I can term it as such.

Anyhow, for me, I went for 2.0NA as I'm more comfortable with the proven reliability of EW10a+ ( previously award winning EW10a on 407) & the comfort suspension setting.



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post Feb 12 2013, 10:44 PM

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Hi Patrick,

I chose turbo is because it's affordable to me. However, as I mentioned in my previous post, the ride is rough. It doesn't absorb the road deformity.
2.0NA gives a more comfortable ride compare to turbo.

Second thing about turbo is the leather seat, Post#428


QUOTE(Patrick12 @ Feb 12 2013, 11:34 AM)
Hi all 408 owners,i am sort of undeciding whether to get the turbo or the 2.0NA.in town,i normally drive at about 60 to 80 kph whereas in highway just 100 to 130 kph only.I had tested the turbo, it was so powerful.I plan to use this car for at least 5 to 7 years, so I am worried about the turbo engine might be causing problems in the future.any advise?and any 2.0 owner here why u chose 2.0 instead of turbo?
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post Feb 12 2013, 10:57 PM

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After a week of use here is a list of my observation and finding of my Pug408T unit.
1) #Defect: Bubble at the driver side door upholstry
2) #Config: Braking and the steering shakes.
3) #Defect: Back passenger left side door, chrome misaligned at the joint between the sliding window and the small glass.
4) #Design: Small glove compartment.
5) #Design: Air cond inside the glove compartment, WTH for?
6) #Design: Non breathable leather seats.
7) #Design: Petrol cover opening mechanism can fail and if does no alt tip to open the cover.
8) #Design: Back passenger doors, need to open wide otherwise it'll swing back and hit the boarding passenger's arm and it can be quite painful. Must makesure to hold the door if elderly / kids are boarding.
9) #Design: Eurokit is a total aesthetic waste of money and marketing gimmick to justify for the extra 3K
10) #Design: You cannot lift up the screen wiper without showing off the AWESOME engine.

Lastly, engine power is awesome and that makes up for some of the drawbacks.

11) #Design: Entertainment unit has no MUTE button compare to the printed diagram in the User handbook, instead they put a TA/PTY button. Which I do not think such service is available or I may be mistaken.

This post has been edited by joeaggas: Feb 13 2013, 04:53 PM
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Joe, what do you mean by #10? If u mean that u need to open the bonnet then only you can raise the wiper, then I think ur SA did a very bad job...or you didnt read the manual tongue.gif

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post Feb 13 2013, 12:37 AM

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Hi matsukatsu, I think i should go n test drive the 2.0 n compare it with the turbo.
Yes kejusan,agree with u, i honestly feel that perhaps 2.0 would be more suitable for me as I seldom on highways.but I like the safety features that the turbo provide.I should go n test drive the 2.0.
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post Feb 13 2013, 12:50 AM

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QUOTE(Patrick12 @ Feb 13 2013, 12:37 AM)
Hi matsukatsu, I think i should go n test drive the 2.0 n compare it with the turbo.
Yes kejusan,agree with u, i honestly feel that perhaps 2.0 would be more suitable for me as I seldom on highways.but I like the safety features that the turbo provide.I should go n test drive the 2.0.
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Whooaa..I thought you've tested both car. Please do test drive all cars that you're considering before you make your decision. Like you said, you plan to drive it for as long as 7 years, so you really need to be satisfied with it.
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post Feb 13 2013, 01:08 AM

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yes I will.because the SC do not have much 2.0 to be tested.will contact them again.
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post Feb 13 2013, 01:24 AM

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QUOTE(x800 @ Feb 12 2013, 11:55 PM)
Joe, what do you mean by #10? If u mean that u need to open the bonnet then only you can raise the wiper, then I think ur SA did a very bad job...or you didnt read the manual tongue.gif
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Didn't actually serve by any SA. I ordered the car by phone and paid booking fee online. biggrin.gif
Yes I didn't read the manual but I only found out about it when cleaning the car.



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post Feb 13 2013, 03:34 AM

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QUOTE(joeaggas @ Feb 12 2013, 10:57 PM)
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5) #Design: Air cond inside the glove compartment, WTH for?

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That's the 'mini' fridge to chill can drink
TSjfcheong
post Feb 13 2013, 08:25 AM

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QUOTE(joeaggas @ Feb 12 2013, 10:57 PM)
After a week of use here is a list of my observation and finding of my Pug408T unit.
1) #Defect: Bubble at the driver side door upholstry
2) #Config: Braking and the steering shakes. Do send your car back to SC for checking and retify the issues
3) #Defect: Back passenger left side door, chrome misaligned at the joint between the sliding window and the small glass. My interior chroming also got some defect, the edge were not well refined, the cutting edge feel like cutting my finger.
4) #Design: Small glove compartment. The storage space of the glove box is mainly taken up by the fuse box. Initially this car is designed for left side drive, while converting to the right side drive, the fuse box was not re-position. Which left inside the glove box.
5) #Design: Air cond inside the glove compartment, WTH for? It serves as a chilling function, you may chile your soft drink by putting in the glove box. However, you can also turn off the air con vent thats inside the glove box.
6) #Design: Non breathable leather seats. I agree on this also, but i still prefer leather over the fabric seat. Easier to maintain.
7) #Design: Petrol cover opening mechanism can fail and if does no alt tip to open the cover.
8) #Design: Back passenger doors, need to open wide otherwise it'll swing back and hit the boarding passenger's arm and it can be quite painful. Must makesure to hold the door if elderly / kids are boarding. Yes, this is truly annoying, gotta open the door to the designate angle, else it swing back and the doors are damn heavy, thats y most of the time my wife just straight open the door hard which might bang the object beside my car.  rclxub.gif
9) #Design: Eurokit is a total aesthetic waste of money and marketing gimmick to justify for the extra 3K  thumbup.gif
10) #Design: You cannot lift up the screen wiper without showing off the AWESOME engine. Actually you can adjust your wiper to parallel position and lift them up, no need to open up your boot to show the PRINCE inside. Just simply press down your wiper indicator (like how you activate your auto wiper), after you have turn off the engine and remove the key.

Lastly, engine power is awesome and that makes up for some of the drawbacks.
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post Feb 13 2013, 08:57 AM

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QUOTE(matsukatsu @ Feb 12 2013, 10:43 PM)
So make no mistake if u think NA lags those higher performance cars. Plus u can easily overtake lorries on the tap!
Which high performance cars are you comparing against?
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post Feb 13 2013, 10:30 AM

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QUOTE(kejusan @ Feb 13 2013, 12:50 AM)
Whooaa..I thought you've tested both car. Please do test drive all cars that you're considering before you make your decision. Like you said, you plan to drive it for as long as 7 years, so you really need to be satisfied with it.
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If youre in Klang Valley, I think Puchong should have both. You'l also hav a fair bit of highway( LDP to Kesas & back) plus all the lubang lubangs around Tesco Puchong area. I did my test drive & had booked there as well
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post Feb 13 2013, 10:37 AM

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QUOTE(joeaggas @ Feb 12 2013, 10:57 PM)
After a week of use here is a list of my observation and finding of my Pug408T unit.
1) #Defect: Bubble at the driver side door upholstry
2) #Config: Braking and the steering shakes.
3) #Defect: Back passenger left side door, chrome misaligned at the joint between the sliding window and the small glass.
4) #Design: Small glove compartment.
5) #Design: Air cond inside the glove compartment, WTH for?
6) #Design: Non breathable leather seats.
7) #Design: Petrol cover opening mechanism can fail and if does no alt tip to open the cover.
8) #Design: Back passenger doors, need to open wide otherwise it'll swing back and hit the boarding passenger's arm and it can be quite painful. Must makesure to hold the door if elderly / kids are boarding.
9) #Design: Eurokit is a total aesthetic waste o money and marketing gimmick to justify for the extra 3K
10) #Design: You cannot lift up the screen wiper without showing off the AWESOME engine.

Lastly, engine power is awesome and that makes up for some of the drawbacks.
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Item 8 ;- doors are really heavy ( not to mention big!) I had my fair share of adoi moments on both front & rear doors! For my front doors, once i've open the doors, I will now hold the corner edge with my hand as I've always poke myself in the face whenever I want to go in. Silly me but ithappen quite a bit during 1st 2-3weeks. He he, the doors are pretty the solid I guess
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QUOTE(matsukatsu @ Feb 13 2013, 10:37 AM)
Item 8 ;- doors are really heavy ( not to mention big!) I had my fair share of adoi moments on both front & rear doors! For my front doors, once i've open the doors, I will now hold the corner edge with my hand as I've always poke myself in the face whenever I want to go in. Silly me but ithappen quite a bit during 1st 2-3weeks. He he, the doors are pretty the solid I guess
The doors are solid but the opening mechanism is poor. The angle of the inner door handle is also awkward. Peugeot should do something about this. You dont get this problem with other conti's.
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post Feb 13 2013, 11:12 AM

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QUOTE(matsukatsu @ Feb 13 2013, 10:37 AM)
Item 8 ;- doors are really heavy ( not to mention big!) I had my fair share of adoi moments on both front & rear doors! For my front doors, once i've open the doors, I will now hold the corner edge with my hand as I've always poke myself in the face whenever I want to go in. Silly me but ithappen quite a bit during 1st 2-3weeks. He he, the doors are pretty the solid I guess
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I don't find any problem with the door. As matter of fact, I really like the way the door behave. Open it wide enough until it reaches the first lock or click and it will stay there. Also, I find it's very useful to carry things inside or out, especially big and bulky items. And closing the door requires very little effort. Just apply a gentle push to swing the door from the lock or click, and it will close with a solid thud. Just make sure your arm or leg is not in the way when the door swings back!
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post Feb 13 2013, 12:01 PM

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QUOTE(Pogostik @ Feb 13 2013, 11:12 AM)
I don't find any problem with the door. As matter of fact, I really like the way the door behave. Open it wide enough until it reaches the first lock or click and it will stay there. Also, I find it's very useful to carry things inside or out, especially big and bulky items. And closing the door requires very little effort. Just apply a gentle push to swing the door from the lock or click, and it will close with a solid thud. Just make sure your arm or leg is not in the way when the door swings back!
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You're right! Those adoi moments are mostly in between parkings where I can't open wide enough. On my car porch, its lovely lah. As on my earlier description on heavy door, I'm describing so as when it swings back unannounced, the door does push me back! Hehe

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