network engineer

Pretty sure they are on hold now

Pretty sure you can be more proactive.

Call them up.

Ask them if they need any more documents or information.

It pays to be more enthusiastic.

Pretty sure you can be more proactive.

Call them up.

Ask them if they need any more documents or information.

It pays to be more enthusiastic.

I know that they were on hold because I did call them lmao

Ouh ok. My bad.

But then again they will notice you now. LOL

I interview for network engineer too. At first the HR said I am qualified, but after 3 weeks I haven't received the job offer. So I ask hr and she said Huawei now is restructure so need time for higher personnel to approve the hiring process.. Do we need to wait or just apply for other job first?

Don't wait, get other job..

you sure direct hiring by huawei? as they normally is outsource to other company to do the job.

Which department? Normally it will be no issue ...

Network design Engineer

iforte or kelly?

I had applied Huawei via jobstreet.just want to ask that after I reply the email with reference resume no and position applied,did I still need to made a application via Huawei official website? But I can't found the position I want at Huawei official website

Hi there! Does anyone know if it's possible for bananas to be hired by Huawei Technologies?

I am a fresh graduate that had just attended a virtual interview with them, but it felt like I completely blew my chance of progressing in the application. They started the interview in mandarin, and my mandarin-speaking skills is only good enough to converse on a day-to-day conversation, but definitely not good enough to be impressive.

Definitely yes. I left the telecoms industry about 6 years ago but before I left I have noticed that Huawei does make an effort to diversify their intake of fresh graduates so quite a number of non chinese speakers do get hired. I have ex colleagues and friends who are non chinese speaking or not chinese for that matter still working there and thriving. In my opinion, not being able to converse could be a bonus; you can avoid the petty politics which I am told can be pretty much and concentrate on your work.

That said, I still find it strange they would conduct it in Mandarin still... Good luck kid! All the best

This post has been edited by 9m2w: Jul 16 2020, 12:31 PM

Just to add additional points. Huawei is constantly hiring people because :-

1. a lot of existing employees left the company for various reasons
2. a lot of existing employees' contract was not renewed. therefore they have to leave
3. very few employees were offered permanent role unless you are super-hardworking, delivery excellent results.

1. Yes, it is possible if the department has additional headcount and your boss is satisfied with your work.
2. It depends on which role you are taking. As an engineer, your performance is highly depend on your project boss. Sometimes you will be assigned to a project where you will work with the project boss instead of your real boss. therefore, your performance is highly depend on what the project boss says to your real boss. even if you work hard but your project boss dont like u, then your dead. sometimes your project boss is Chinaman, most of the Chinaman is very hard to satisfy them, but when they are happy with your work, your performance will be better than your performance while working with malaysian project boss. this is because Chinaman is very influential in this company, eventhough some of them are just fresh graduates. as u gain experience year after year in this company, there will be time where those who work here will experience mid-career crisis due to lack of growth and promotion if you maintained the same role. if you move to management role, you will see some career growth. huawei hire lots of engineers and lots of engineers left huawei after few years due to no career growth, no salary increment, no bonus, contract was not renewed. u can easily noticed in jobstreet that they constantly hiring fresh graduates because of this issue. training fresh grad is not a problem for them, as long as huawei can spend cheaply on u. they also have 1.3 billion people who can serve as backup if all the local malaysian employees quit Huawei. looking at the bright side, huawei is a good place to build your career at an international level, u will gain lots of knowledge, u will have the opportunity to work abroad and gain international experience, and it is far more better than working in local malaysian companies. don't stay there for too long, gain as many knowledge as u can, and then cabut go other companies and use the knowledge gained to leverage on your next salary/role/benefit at the next company.

3.
Huawei contract - u get bonus, increment, etc. just like the permanent staff . u have the opportunity to work oversea. u can attend oversea training. u can transfer to other dept when there's opening.
Outsource - u are not getting any of the above.

it is definitely NOT normal for an MNC company to hire outsourced employee rather than having them as their own employee. They want to hire ppl to work with them but they don’t want to take risk of hiring which in other words putting all the risk on the employee. They are lucky that Malaysians are desperate to get a job and instead of appreciating their own employees, they take advantage of this situation. Furthermore, high turnover IS NOT the employee’s fault! It’s the company’s failure of retaining their own employees. Instead of improving their work env, they hire contract staff to solve this issue. As usual the govt is closing one eye since only the Chinaman is bringing money into the country.

normally a contract staff will be paid much much more higher than permanent staff because of the risk that they have to take into account when they cannot find a job after contract expires. Some cheapskate local companies usually hire contract staff and pay peanut salary since they cannot afford to pay based on market salary. ( sometimes its funny these cheapskate companies want to do bisnes but dun have money, then better don’t do bisnes at all ) . in Huawei, they somehow have their own meaning of “contract staff” where the salary is similar to “permanent staff”. Therefore the contract staff is underpaid and need to bear the risk of contract of not being renewed.

the concept of outsourced staff is similar to an experienced consultant who has its own company and provide professional services. the money earned is higher than contract staff ( in multiple folds ) due to higher risks because there will be a situation where the client ( Huawei ) wont make the payment due to certain reasons. So don’t be surprise when the outsourcing company hired by Huawei is taking AT LEAST 50% of the salary of outsourced staff. For example, the salary of outsourced staff is rm4k , actually Huawei is paying the outsourcing company at least rm8k or more. And the outsourced company’s job is just managing your HR related matters. What a simple business.
They hire a lot of contract and outsourced staffs so that they can easily terminate them later on. no wonder in jobstreet, there are always vacancies in Huawei. They have been recycling their employees every few years and retaining only the cream of the crops.

Besides that, permanent employees do EXIST in Huawei and it is offered to super talented, super-hardworking staff . If you are hardworking, for them, its nothing, they expect more than that.
Furthermore, it is ABSOLUTE NOT a bad impression to ask future colleagues for non related work questions. This is just a lame HR tactics so that they can gain advantage over the candidate. For anyone who is interested to join Huawei, make sure u get what u want during the job offer process. After u join, u are at the mercy of the company.

The ratio of outsourced employee vs direct staff (permanent or contract is another matter) is also seasonal. Outsourced employees usually are those with specific skill sets applicable for a certain project, project over they go their separate ways. Direct hire (again referring to permanent or contract) employees tend to have more wideranging skill sets that can enable them to cross support, for instance technical support, network planning/optimisation, project management, technical sales etc. Your right, MNCs especially those that are doing reasonably well like Huawei will tend to favour more direct staff actually, them giving contract instead of a permanent position could be a sign of the economic times.

And your other views about Huawei treatment of employees, as an outsider looking in I agree 100% haha. Not my cup of tea, but still certainly an excellent place for fresh graduates to learn thats for sure. Learn enough, boost your resume then bug out.

But with regards to outsource companies earning more than 50% I think that isnt necessarily true. Unless the industry has changed greatly, vendors have pressed the prices of such companies significantly. I worked for a western competitor for Huawei, every time its renewal I'm always pressing for a discount. And I roughly know the take home of the outsourced staff so, 50% is really too high. If there is such a margin, first thing I would do is ring up the ethics and compliance office to investigate the service procurement manager for graft. This is us, I would imagine Huawei is wayyyy more stingy.

This post has been edited by 9m2w: Jul 17 2020, 02:30 PM

someone asked a question and i thought it would beneficial to share it. hope can gain something from it.

question:
Hi there... Just wanna to ask you some opinion regarding Huawei. Im a fresh graduate got offered with project management engineer position in HW, been reading alot of the comments on the Huawei's thread, and most of the comments are quite scary, is it really that "bad" though?
The contract position is kinda risky as well... actually i got offered with another permanant position in other company, but for the jobscope i prefer huawei as i intended to debut my career in project management. i heard the politics are very "legendary".
Just wanted to hear your thoughts on it


Answer:
Firstly, congratulations on getting both jobs.

Malaysia’s 5 main industries are banking, ecommerce, OnG, construction, electronics/manufacturing and IT. IMO, everyone has a dream career but in Malaysia, we cant just blindly follow our dream. As an example, I want to become automotive engineer, unfortunately Msia doesn’t have a good automotive company to grow my career to become a true automotive engineer. We used to have a good auto company (Proton) but now not anymore. Even working in Perodua is a waste of time because there is no r&d opportunity since they just copy all the design from Toyota/Daihatsu. End up become Copy Engineer. Somemore, they pay peanut salary but we work 8 hours per day just like everybody else. Why waste our time working like this? Get my point?

What I’m trying to say is to look for a job in an industry where money is abundant or work in Fortune 500 companies where they have cash to pay a good salary. DONT find a job that you like but FIND a job that you like AND it pays a GOOD MONEY.

Maybe my comments about Huawei are a bit exaggerated but its better to be ready for the corporate world. Companies are not doing charity work. They are trying to make money and the fresh grad is an easy target for them to gain more for what they paid for. Huawei or any companies, in front of u, they will say all the nice words such as “Employees are our precious assets”, but in reality is, they will question whether your salary is justified with the work that u delivered. No hard feelings. Its just business. It’s a cruel world. But I don’t deny that there are some companies who truly value their employees such as companies listed in Fortune 500 such Microsoft, Apply, Google, Cisco etc.

despite the negative aspect of this company, Huawei is a very good place to grow but it is definitely not a good place to stay for a long term basis. And it is still much better than to work in most of the local companies. working in an MNC, u get the chance to hang around with great ppl with great mindset and with vast experience which enables u to grow, not just for your career but to broaden your way of thinking, the way u see things, let u see things differently as compared to other typical ppl. that's why there is a saying "Your Circle of Friends Influence Who You Become". so, if u hang with ppl who always play politics, talk c*ck, day dreaming, you will definitely become just like them.

Career in project management is not bad actually. you have the opportunity to grow as Project Mgr, then become Director, after that C-Level etc. I assume you have an idea about your career goals, what u expect to become in 5 years time, 10 years time, etc. Huawei is one of the biggest company in the world, definitely u have the opportunity to gain experience. It is much better if this role have the opportunity to work abroad or collaborate with international peers globally. By looking at the JD, u will handle the project mgmt system, but I am not sure the detail of this role. But normally in Huawei, most of their Project Managers come from a technical background, where they have worked as Engineer doing technical stuff. So, for u to start your career directly in Project Mgmt might give u an extra challenge to equip urself in technical area for career growth. But I might be wrong, but u can give it a try and see what this role has to offer. Learn as much as u can, don’t learn some basic stuff, but gain some unique knowledge where u can use it to boost your career. For example, getting involved in a big project, where time is critical, and so on. Honestly I don’t know much about Project Mgmt team because I joined them as Technical Engineer where in my field of work, there is a huge potential for career growth since it involved working with the latest tech such as 5G and this knowledge is highly in demand in many countries but not in msia because telco have limited opportunity eventhough it is a lucrative business.

why worry about office politics? firstly, what is your goal when joining huawei or any other company? if your aim is to gain bonus, promotion, increment, i guess by playing politics will help u achieve these goals. if your aim is to gather unique knowledge and skills as much as possible so that u can jump to a better company with a better pay, office politics are irrelevant to u. yes, salary is super low for fresh grad, but looking at the bright side, there is an opportunity to gain priceless knowledge which will leverage the money issue. therefore its a win-win situation, the company hired u cheaply and in return, u get to learn something priceless. remember, "DO NOT work hard, but work SMART!" “DO NOT be loyal to the company, BUT be loyal to your CAREER!”

and I suggest u to keep on applying for other jobs at a good company. You are still young. If u haven’t figured out your passion, keep on working in different company until u find the right one. Because passion will drive your career, which in return will reward u with money, promotion, bonus, etc.