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 Huawei Technologies, Anyone working there?

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9m2w
post Jul 15 2020, 11:13 PM

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QUOTE(BitterCoffee @ Jul 13 2020, 02:18 PM)
Hi there! Does anyone know if it's possible for bananas to be hired by Huawei Technologies?

I am a fresh graduate that had just attended a virtual interview with them, but it felt like I completely blew my chance of progressing in the application. They started the interview in mandarin, and my mandarin-speaking skills is only good enough to converse on a day-to-day conversation, but definitely not good enough to be impressive.
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Definitely yes. I left the telecoms industry about 6 years ago but before I left I have noticed that Huawei does make an effort to diversify their intake of fresh graduates so quite a number of non chinese speakers do get hired. I have ex colleagues and friends who are non chinese speaking or not chinese for that matter still working there and thriving. In my opinion, not being able to converse could be a bonus; you can avoid the petty politics which I am told can be pretty much and concentrate on your work.

That said, I still find it strange they would conduct it in Mandarin still... Good luck kid! All the best

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post Jul 17 2020, 12:52 PM

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QUOTE(rinin_farina @ Jul 17 2020, 11:50 AM)
it is definitely NOT normal for an MNC company to hire outsourced employee rather than having them as their own employee. They want to hire ppl to work with them but they don’t want to take risk of hiring which in other words putting all the risk on the employee. They are lucky that Malaysians are desperate to get a job and instead of appreciating their own employees, they take advantage of this situation. Furthermore, high turnover IS NOT the employee’s fault! It’s the company’s failure of retaining their own employees. Instead of improving their work env, they hire contract staff to solve this issue. As usual the govt is closing one eye since only the Chinaman is bringing money into the country.

normally a contract staff will be paid much much more higher than permanent staff because of the risk that they have to take into account when they cannot find a job after contract expires. Some cheapskate local companies usually hire contract staff and pay peanut salary  since they cannot afford to pay based on market salary. ( sometimes its funny these cheapskate companies want to do bisnes but dun have money, then better don’t do bisnes at all ) . in Huawei, they somehow have their own meaning of “contract staff” where the salary is similar to “permanent staff”. Therefore the contract staff is underpaid and need to bear the risk of contract of not being renewed.

the concept of outsourced staff is similar to an experienced consultant who has its own company and provide professional services. the money earned is higher than contract staff ( in multiple folds ) due to higher risks because there will be a situation where the client ( Huawei ) wont make the payment due to certain reasons. So don’t be surprise when the outsourcing company hired by Huawei is taking AT LEAST 50% of the salary of outsourced staff. For example, the salary of outsourced staff is rm4k , actually Huawei is paying the outsourcing company at least rm8k or more. And the outsourced company’s job is just managing your HR related matters. What a simple business.
They hire a lot of contract and outsourced staffs so that they can easily terminate them later on. no wonder in jobstreet, there are always vacancies in Huawei. They have been recycling their employees every few years and retaining only the cream of the crops.

Besides that, permanent employees do EXIST in Huawei and it is offered to super talented, super-hardworking staff . If you are hardworking, for them, its nothing, they expect more than that.
Furthermore, it is ABSOLUTE NOT a bad impression to ask future colleagues for non related work questions. This is just a lame HR tactics so that they can gain advantage over the candidate. For anyone who is interested to join Huawei, make sure u get what u want during the job offer process. After u join, u are at the mercy of the company.
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The ratio of outsourced employee vs direct staff (permanent or contract is another matter) is also seasonal. Outsourced employees usually are those with specific skill sets applicable for a certain project, project over they go their separate ways. Direct hire (again referring to permanent or contract) employees tend to have more wideranging skill sets that can enable them to cross support, for instance technical support, network planning/optimisation, project management, technical sales etc. Your right, MNCs especially those that are doing reasonably well like Huawei will tend to favour more direct staff actually, them giving contract instead of a permanent position could be a sign of the economic times.

And your other views about Huawei treatment of employees, as an outsider looking in I agree 100% haha. Not my cup of tea, but still certainly an excellent place for fresh graduates to learn thats for sure. Learn enough, boost your resume then bug out.

But with regards to outsource companies earning more than 50% I think that isnt necessarily true. Unless the industry has changed greatly, vendors have pressed the prices of such companies significantly. I worked for a western competitor for Huawei, every time its renewal I'm always pressing for a discount. And I roughly know the take home of the outsourced staff so, 50% is really too high. If there is such a margin, first thing I would do is ring up the ethics and compliance office to investigate the service procurement manager for graft. This is us, I would imagine Huawei is wayyyy more stingy.

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post Aug 4 2020, 07:43 AM

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QUOTE(chickenshit36 @ Aug 3 2020, 08:14 PM)
I left liao. Got better offer then ciao.
But a word of advise to the guys here. Don’t simply ciao coz once u come out it’s very hard to go back in huawei.
Telco world very small and huawei is very big in telco
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Depends on how you left, I have colleagues who left and rejoined. If you don't burn your bridges should be fine. Their management and HR can behave like a petulant kid at times but they are also pragmatic. If they need your skillset or contacts they will reinvite you back to the party. All the best, hope you landed in an operator if you're still in the same industry

QUOTE(Yan97 @ Jul 29 2020, 02:24 PM)
Hai I was hire by Huawei as outsource staff in network Engineer position. Do u feel that I should accept the job offer, as they would want me to do medical check up and pay on my own first after join only claim. Also I feel that I was told lastly before they told me that I was joining as outsource staff.
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Are you fresh? If yes then worth it for the experience. Especially if you want to stay in the industry. When I was last in the industry, western MNCs are cutting down on outsource staff,relying more on shared resources from across the region. Those they hire are for comparatively low skilled positions. And the odds of you being absorbed by them are minimal at best.

All the best!

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post Aug 4 2020, 09:33 AM

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QUOTE(genericsoul @ Aug 4 2020, 08:16 AM)
I hear huawei has very strict internal business policy, as well as for partners. Is that true? Co with nearly 200k employee is it not fraud very easy to happen? How to control with business policy alone? Smr knowing telco industry a lot of u help me I help u style
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In my ex workplace, we had a whistle blower policy on top of standard operating guidelines for procurement to report malpractice including graft . The ethics and compliance office that investigates such reports are separate from the country management. In most cases they report direct to the CEO office. Its usually headed by someone outside the industry, in my ex workplace the regional head was an ex industrial lawyer. Reports that go to them rarely get ignored. The CEO is answerable to the shareholders, if someone is profiting at the expense of the shareholders, then its in the CEO's best interest to stamp it out.

That said, incidences of graft do occur, but telecommunications is not a lucrative an industry compared to O&G. When everyone from operators to vendors are pressing for lower prices, really is little to no room left to pay bribes. Still, when I left the industry i did send a nice email with supporting documents reporting possible unethical behaviour to the compliance office and yes they were acted on smile.gif

As for Huawei, I dont work for them but since they are so cost conscious...I believe they are even more strict on this compared to their western counterparts. I do know of high ranking staff that were punished for breaking internal policy. Some cases I do believe they were unfairly penalised though but a breach of policy is still a breach of policy I guess

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