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 Sony Xperia Z & Xperia ZL Official Thread, 5", 4core, 2GBram, 13mp, LTE, waterproof

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post Jan 2 2013, 11:34 PM, updated 13y ago

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Android 4.1 Jellybean
1.5GHz Snapdragon S4 pro quad-core
2GB ram
5" 1080p 443ppi Sony HDreality screen LED-backlit LCD with
Dragontrail™
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Sony Mobile Bravia Engin 2 ™
13 megapixel Sony Exmor RS sensor HDR still photo & HDR video
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Sony Clear Audio+™ with Clear Bass™, Xloud™, Clear Stereo+™, S-Master Digital Amplification™
Wifi Miracast™
WiFi a/b/g/n with WiFi Direct™
2.1 megapixel Exmor R front camera
Skeleton Frame Structure
4G LTE+ & 3G HSPA+
Bluetooth 4.0
HD voice™
MHL™
MicroSDXC
NFC support
Pressure Sensor
10point multi-touch
aGPS with GLONASS
2330 mAh /2370 mAh battery with Fast charging
Infrared IrDA remote functionality
Ingress Protection IP55 certified
Waterproof & Dustproof IP57 certified
SAR value 0.55 watt/kg

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Xperia Z & Xperia ZL hands-on + review


SGNL - hands on video


Android Authority
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Xperia ZL CES hands onvideo
Xperia Z vs Xperia ZLvideo


Android Central
Xperia Z CES hands onvideo
Xperia ZL CES hands onvideo


Android Police
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ARS technicaXperia Z & Xperia ZL

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engadget
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GIZMODOXperia Z & Xperia ZL hands on


GSM arena
Xperia Z hands onvideo
Xperia Z previewvideo
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Phonearena
http://www.phonearena.com/news/Sony-Xperia...ands-on_id38419
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Gsmarena
http://www.gsmarena.com/ces_2013_sony_xper...-review-870.php

The Verge
http://www.theverge.com/2013/1/7/3847944/s...a-z-zl-hands-on



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Both screen is 5 inch.
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post Jan 3 2013, 12:18 AM

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post Jan 3 2013, 12:20 AM

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QUOTE(Bujal.x @ Jan 3 2013, 12:18 AM)
Like ion on streoid..
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QUOTE(tzershi @ Jan 3 2013, 12:15 AM)
Both screen is 5 inch.
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they said 1 is larger another is smaller
thn 1 is waterproof another is not

so guessing is like tat lar laugh.gif but need 2 wait until they announce at 7th thn only knw
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post Jan 3 2013, 12:33 AM

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so jan 2014 will masuk malaysia?

even tx still not coming yet..zz
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QUOTE(Mr.CoMoT @ Jan 3 2013, 12:33 AM)
so jan 2014 will masuk malaysia?

even tx still not coming yet..zz
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looks like only ZL have camera button...


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so jan 2014 will masuk malaysia?

even tx still not coming yet..zz
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QUOTE(kakikubesi @ Jan 3 2013, 12:35 AM)
looks like only ZL have camera button...
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QUOTE(junsheng @ Jan 3 2013, 01:21 AM)
they said 1 is larger another is smaller
thn 1 is waterproof another is not

so guessing is like tat lar  laugh.gif  but need 2 wait until they announce at 7th thn only knw
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No. Confirm both 5 inch. Just the Xperia ZL size make the screen look like smaller.
Ya one is waterproof another are not but got infrared ray.

Time announce will be Tuesday live on 9 am.
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expected the phone will be released march or april, funding cash now huhuhu..
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WOO....awesome..high spec with water proof..
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The ZL, while having a smaller footprint, it's thicker. Z most likely bigger for being waterproof with the extra port flaps and what not. Both have 5" screen.

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I think better wait for the official spec o be release.
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QUOTE(tzershi @ Jan 3 2013, 01:27 AM)
No. Confirm both 5 inch. Just the Xperia ZL size make the screen look like smaller.
Ya one is waterproof another are not but got infrared ray.

Time announce will be Tuesday live on 9 am.
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www.phonearena.com/news/Sony-Xperia-Z-price-revealed_id38246

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ZL got a nice design with blue light at the bottom thumbup.gif
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I prefer xperia Z more. it just feel abit wired that ZL camera locate at bottom part of the screen.

if it possible arrive Malaysia march/april with pice around rm2000, then sony can take my money liao.
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Expected price ?
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heard sony Malaysia launching it on March
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QUOTE(jloi @ Jan 4 2013, 01:57 PM)
heard sony Malaysia launching it on March
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any link?
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internal source told me. That's it if Sony Malaysia didn't change their mind
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QUOTE(jloi @ Jan 4 2013, 05:35 PM)
internal source told me. That's it if Sony Malaysia didn't change their mind
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TX and V just launched in m'sia. don't think they will launch this in march
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xperia z, s4, htc m7.

so many great phone is releasing.
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QUOTE(hewtwok @ Jan 3 2013, 05:21 PM)
www.phonearena.com/news/Sony-Xperia-Z-price-revealed_id38246

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price not bad, but i will get it free laugh.gif
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more leaked pics of xperia Z drool.gif drool.gif

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SOS

demm, Yuga or Odin, now wating for more pic of odin.

btw i wonder why i dun c any flash on the back of xperia Z? hmm.gif hmm.gif

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QUOTE(uzary @ Jan 5 2013, 02:31 AM)
more leaked pics of xperia Z  drool.gif  drool.gif


demm, Yuga or Odin, now wating for more pic of odin.

btw i wonder why i dun c any flash on the back of xperia Z?  hmm.gif  hmm.gif
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hidden under the mirror reflection laugh.gif


Added on January 5, 2013, 2:35 am
QUOTE(James831 @ Jan 3 2013, 08:40 PM)
I  prefer xperia Z more. it just feel abit wired that ZL camera locate at bottom part of the screen.

if it possible arrive Malaysia march/april with pice around rm2000, then  sony can take my money liao.
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actually if u use Nokia N9 b4, u will feel tat front camera at the bottom part is much more easier 2 use
whn talking with ppl over video calls laugh.gif

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QUOTE(junsheng @ Jan 5 2013, 02:34 AM)
hidden under the mirror reflection  laugh.gif


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actually if u use Nokia N9 b4, u will feel tat front camera at the bottom part is much more easier 2 use
whn talking with ppl over video calls  laugh.gif
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seriously bro? the flash really hidden? laugh.gif

btw i dun really care bout video call but if taking our own face , will it become a problem due to the front cam placement?
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QUOTE(jloi @ Jan 4 2013, 02:57 PM)
heard sony Malaysia launching it on March
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QUOTE(kakikubesi @ Jan 4 2013, 04:49 PM)
any link?
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This bro news accurate one. Like last time about Ion. brows.gif

QUOTE(uzary @ Jan 5 2013, 03:31 AM)
more leaked pics of xperia Z  drool.gif  drool.gif

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SOS

demm, Yuga or Odin, now wating for more pic of odin.

btw i wonder why i dun c any flash on the back of xperia Z?  hmm.gif  hmm.gif
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That is prototype. Plus reflect.
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QUOTE(uzary @ Jan 5 2013, 02:39 AM)
seriously bro? the flash really hidden?  laugh.gif

btw i dun really care bout video call but if taking our own face , will it become a problem due to the front cam placement?
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doesn't cause any problem on the Nokia N9, probably sony's too laugh.gif
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QUOTE(ckchan @ Jan 4 2013, 06:41 PM)
TX and V just launched in m'sia. don't think they will launch this in march
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Well you saw the price of launching now. If this year no new phone announce you think the price will be 1,599? The price will be like last time when Xperia S launching.
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xperia z i believe will be a direct competition against htc butterfly, but i think sony shud really put the button at the bottom of the screen rather on the screen, i has lot of space there n also wont disrupt the screen reso.

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QUOTE(uzary @ Jan 5 2013, 02:47 AM)
xperia z i believe will be a direct competition against htc butterfly, but i think sony shud really put the button at the bottom of the screen rather on the screen, i has lot of space there n also wont disrupt the screen reso.

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yea, they should do it just like xperia S
only accept swipe input 2 avoide unintended input laugh.gif
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QUOTE(kakikubesi @ Jan 3 2013, 01:35 AM)
looks like only ZL have camera button...


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Isn't that the Unlock button?
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QUOTE(freakenstein @ Jan 5 2013, 03:29 AM)
Isn't that the Unlock button?
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unlock / power button in the middle. both same...just from the picture only.actual hmm.gif
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lucky i din buy nexus4 nor optimus G...
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yup, really cant wait for it.. take my money..
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QUOTE(tzershi @ Jan 5 2013, 02:46 AM)
Well you saw the price of launching now. If this year no new phone announce you think the price will be 1,599? The price will be like last time when Xperia S launching.
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Don't get me wrong bro. I too hope you are right so I can get it earlier. But if you look at the launch date of tx compared to their release date here you'll see why...
Ion & acro s launched= mid august
Tx & v announced= end August
Tx & v launched= early January
You are tonight on the pricing that tx has a cheaperlaunch price. But if they launch z too early it is like they are competing among their own model... Having launch 2 flagship model too close to each other...


Added on January 5, 2013, 11:30 am
QUOTE(tzershi @ Jan 5 2013, 02:46 AM)
Well you saw the price of launching now. If this year no new phone announce you think the price will be 1,599? The price will be like last time when Xperia S launching.
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Don't get me wrong bro. I too hope you are right so I can get it earlier. But if you look at the launch date of tx compared to their release date here you'll see why...
Ion & acro s launched= mid august
Tx & v announced= end August
Tx & v launched= early January
You are tonight on the pricing that tx has a cheaperlaunch price. But if they launch z too early it is like they are competing among their own model... Having launch 2 flagship model too close to each other...


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Btw guys, it this phone lte ready?
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Very tempting... might be time to make the switch from my S.
Having a hard time deciding between Z and ZL... will probably go for the one with the bigger battery though:D
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z and zl got what different?
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QUOTE(ckchan @ Jan 5 2013, 11:29 AM)
Don't get me wrong bro. I too hope you are right so I can get it earlier. But if you look at the launch date of tx compared to their release date here you'll see why...
Ion & acro s launched= mid august
Tx & v announced= end August
Tx & v launched= early January
You are tonight on the pricing that tx has a cheaperlaunch price. But if they launch z too early it is like they are competing among their own model... Having launch 2 flagship model too close to each other...


Added on January 5, 2013, 11:30 am

Don't get me wrong bro. I too hope you are right so I can get it earlier. But if you look at the launch date of tx compared to their release date here you'll see why...
Ion & acro s launched= mid august
Tx & v announced= end August
Tx & v launched= early January
You are tonight on the pricing that tx has a cheaperlaunch price. But if they launch z too early it is like they are competing among their own model... Having launch 2 flagship model too close to each other...
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nope xperia V n tx already avaliable 2 week ago
n also xperia tablet S


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Btw guys, it this phone lte ready?
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yes


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QUOTE(teckyang97 @ Jan 5 2013, 01:20 PM)
z and zl got what different?
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not sure yet laugh.gif

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QUOTE(junsheng @ Jan 5 2013, 01:44 PM)
nope xperia V n tx already avaliable 2 week ago
n also xperia tablet S


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yes


Added on January 5, 2013, 1:58 pm

not sure yet laugh.gif
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Those are ap set? I'm talking about official launch by Sony Malaysia. I just checked with Sony center KLCC Friday. Tx supposed to launched that day but due to stock problem will delay few more days. While v will be launched next week.


Added on January 6, 2013, 10:16 amThis is the RRP list I got from Sony KLCC

http://forum.lowyat.net/topic/2488729/+840

Some seller got their original set on Friday also.

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QUOTE(ckchan @ Jan 6 2013, 10:11 AM)
Those are ap set? I'm talking about official launch by Sony Malaysia. I just checked with Sony center KLCC Friday. Tx supposed to launched that day but due to stock problem will delay few more days. While v will be launched next week.


Added on January 6, 2013, 10:16 amThis is the RRP list I got from Sony KLCC

http://forum.lowyat.net/topic/2488729/+840

Some seller got their original set on Friday also.
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not ap set i think tongue.gif
i heard my friend buy xperia v last week in sony center at the curve
n my bratha company just received xperia V dev phones last friday laugh.gif

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QUOTE(junsheng @ Jan 6 2013, 12:27 PM)
not ap set i think tongue.gif
i heard my friend buy xperia v last week in sony center at the curve
n my bratha company just received xperia V dev phones last friday  laugh.gif
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Really? Not sure why Sony in the curve got stock. But yesterday I check Sony center in 1u as well. Also no sign of tx and v


Added on January 6, 2013, 12:50 pmBut anyway can't wait till tomorrow, or Tuesday morning Malaysia time, for official announcement of yoga and Odin... Hope they announce huashan as well

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Really cant wait for the announcement. Hope it will impress me more than what hav been leaked, n hopefully no deal breaker with the either phone. N most importantly i hope they both z n zl are available here in our country. Thus we wil hav an option. Unlike t n tx.
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I hav a reason to believe that starting this new year, myb jus myb sony wil improved in term of delivering their product faster n also faster software update. As we all know that altho sony has been in this mobile industries for quite some times, howeva that was under sony ericsson, but now sony mobile only age at a year thus they need tym to establish themselve, in order to compete with the like of apple n samsung and the rest. Wateva it is i hope sony will continue to fight in this mobile war n be part of the major market share. Being a fan of sony, i always wanted the best from the company, albeit their product are kinda pricey.
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QUOTE(uzary @ Jan 6 2013, 02:31 PM)
I hav a reason to believe that starting this new year, myb jus myb sony wil improved in term of delivering their product faster n also faster software update. As we all know that altho sony has been in this mobile industries for quite some times, howeva that was under sony ericsson, but now sony mobile only age at a year thus they need tym to establish themselve, in order to compete with the like of apple n samsung and the rest. Wateva it is i hope sony will continue to fight in this mobile war n be part of the major market share. Being a fan of sony, i always wanted the best from the company, albeit their product are kinda pricey.
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bcauz flaw n the integration of things sony need 2 do lar

like the sony bravia engin, sony need 2 ensure it work on every app
even on 3rd party movie player or album or games tat u installed
n also sound clear audio+ also need 2 work through out all the apps even the 3rd party apps

thn the latest linux kernal they using also delay dev, even nexus 7 with google update,
they r just using 3.1 kernal, if update kernal it will surely increase the developing times
sony use new linux kernal 3.4 in their jellybean

thn the securities fix ler, android got many securities flaws
like u can root the phone even without unlocking the bootloader http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1886460
but fixed with new update, but in other phone brand u still can use it 2 root ur phone brows.gif

refer 2 CM10 custom rom, u will c there r still no official jellybean released
just only version were stated as stable only, so tis is only y sony is taking so long

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Water resistant, exactly 5', Jelly Bean, elegant body, 16GB internal + 32GB external, quad core 2GB memory... If true, these are what I actually looking for...

What do you guys expect its battery? How much is your minimum acceptable level?
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QUOTE(Jmnote @ Jan 6 2013, 05:33 PM)
Water resistant, exactly 5', Jelly Bean, elegant body, 16GB internal + 32GB external, quad core 2GB memory... If true, these are what I actually looking for...

What do you guys expect its battery? How much is your minimum acceptable level?
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need to last at least four hours screen on time with 3g.... lower than that, u r gonna have to do all those nonsense ppl do to save batt(juice defender la, dont use 3g la, off auto sync la,etc)
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after the launch when sony malysia usully will start to sell it??
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I just hope they can bring in asap after the launch
Other wise its an outdated specs
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QUOTE(Jmnote @ Jan 6 2013, 05:33 PM)
Water resistant, exactly 5', Jelly Bean, elegant body, 16GB internal + 32GB external, quad core 2GB memory... If true, these are what I actually looking for...

What do you guys expect its battery? How much is your minimum acceptable level?
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i would be happy already if the phone able to last the whole day..
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got an email from sony to mentioned that the extraordinary is coming.. sure is about Announcement of these 2 phones and other midrange phone in coming CES2013 in 7th Jan ET.. Msia time is 8th Jan early morning.. stay tuned and wait about the confirmation info from CES2013..

estimated the shipment of new devices into Msia is around on end of FEB 2013

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QUOTE(Jmnote @ Jan 6 2013, 05:33 PM)
Water resistant, exactly 5', Jelly Bean, elegant body, 16GB internal + 32GB external, quad core 2GB memory... If true, these are what I actually looking for...

What do you guys expect its battery? How much is your minimum acceptable level?
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2000 mah, if xperia V,
but now quad core i think i think 3000 mah will only satisfy me


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I just hope they can bring in asap after the launch
Other wise its an outdated specs
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i think smart phones dosen't need so much processing power
in the end wat is gonna suffer is the battery only

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QUOTE(ChuanHong @ Jan 7 2013, 12:41 AM)
got an email from sony to mentioned that the extraordinary is coming.. sure is about Announcement of these 2 phones and other midrange phone in coming CES2013 in 7th Jan ET.. Msia time is 8th Jan early morning.. stay tuned and wait about the confirmation info from CES2013..

estimated the shipment of new devices into Msia is around on end of FEB 2013
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you mean midrange(huashan) also unveiling in CES??!! and launch end of Feb??!!! too good to be true lol, but definitely hope it is true!!!
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you mean midrange(huashan) also unveiling in CES??!! and launch end of Feb??!!! too good to be true lol, but definitely hope it is true!!!
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you mean midrange(huashan) also unveiling in CES??!! and launch end of Feb??!!! too good to be true lol, but definitely hope it is true!!!
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For as people know about leakings news/info, Sony will unveal Sony Xperia Z & ZL. its very high specs in hardware and very fully intergrated with redesign software by Sony.. Its good news.. But i think it will come with midrange phone from Sony which are not in high specs.

in term of phone, people are just simply go look through the hardware like processor speed, ram, memory and more.. but that just part of hardware.. we should look on software and Operating system too..
1gb RAM, dual core processor, memory which with expandable microSD is the best (normal up to 32gb, a big storage for a phone).. this is very enough for all daily users..

For my opinion, Samsung is a greatest offer in hardware for handphone but not for software.. Operating system yes.. always up-to-date.. Sony focus on outlook of handsets, own software.. Hardware&operating system always slower than other competitors.. But Sony got its own iconic design and attractive..

Choose wisely among the phone.. but not in term of famous, latest, powerful device.. but in term of suitability.


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QUOTE(junsheng @ Jan 7 2013, 01:01 AM)
2000 mah, if xperia V,
but now quad core i think i think 3000 mah will only satisfy me


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i think smart phones dosen't need so much processing power
in the end wat is gonna suffer is the battery only
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agree with u.. battery life is the most importance things in handsets. in term usable..

Quad-core, 2gb ram, large memory is just an advantage.. i need surfing, SMS, phone call, use calculator, music, take phone, alarm, check time, dictionary, GPS navigation, some entertainment..

im not playing games all the time.. handset for me, SMS and calling is most importance.. in term of smartphone is able to multitasking in 1 devices. but not with the latest/powerful hardware.. moderate is enough..

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QUOTE(junsheng @ Jan 7 2013, 01:01 AM)
2000 mah, if xperia V,
but now quad core i think i think 3000 mah will only satisfy me


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i think smart phones dosen't need so much processing power
in the end wat is gonna suffer is the battery only
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The specs I'm referring to is not just processing power
It includes the battery, this phone won me over HTC butterfly is because the battery capacity...


Added on January 7, 2013, 1:42 amBattery capacity is just part of the equation of the battery usage
Other important stuff to look at is how b power hungry is the processor. Newer chip will consume less power than older chip too.
And how the processor heat does not affect the battery for over heating damage the battery greatly over time

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QUOTE(ChuanHong @ Jan 7 2013, 01:20 AM)
agree with u.. battery life is the most importance things in handsets. in term usable..

Quad-core, 2gb ram, large memory is just an advantage.. i need surfing, SMS, phone call, use calculator, music, take phone, alarm, check time, dictionary, GPS navigation, some entertainment..

im not playing games all the time.. handset for me, SMS and calling is most importance.. in term of smartphone is able to multitasking in 1 devices. but not with the latest/powerful hardware.. moderate is enough..
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thn i think motorola smartphone is the best 4 u
their battery life is best among best in all brand

n ur signature too big, change it b4 they warn u
refer 2 my virgin signature, tat size is max ady laugh.gif


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QUOTE(sebastianX11 @ Jan 7 2013, 01:35 AM)
The specs I'm referring to is not just processing power
It includes the battery, this phone won me over HTC butterfly is because the battery capacity...


Added on January 7, 2013, 1:42 amBattery capacity is just part of the equation of the battery usage
Other important stuff to look at is how b power hungry is the processor. Newer chip will consume less power than older chip too.
And how the processor heat does not affect the battery for over heating damage the battery greatly over time
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yea, but not always tru lar, unless they new chip use A15 architecture completely
it will still eat power like crazy laugh.gif

but still arm a-15 got disadvantages lar laugh.gif

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QUOTE(junsheng @ Jan 7 2013, 01:43 AM)
thn i think motorola smartphone is the best 4 u
their battery life is best among best in all brand

n ur signature too big, change it b4 they warn u
refer 2 my virgin signature, tat size is max ady  laugh.gif
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delete already the signature.. im try to upload and check the size of signature..

i choose sony phone among all brand.. better attractive in design and software.. battery life normal.. 1 charge for every day.. dual core enough for me to do all multitasking.. but i like to view all latest device and may introduce to customers and friends..
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For me, otha than good battery life, i needed a very minimal lag from my phone, my arc current hav a frequent lag. I wont expect a lag free, altho wit all the cores available from the xperia z, as android is yet to achieve the lag free even wit project butter, but a very minimal lag would suffice for me. Also another issue i suffered from my arc is lack of internal memory. I really cant wait for this phone to be launched asap. If the price less than 2k, i'll be among the d early adopter.
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after the launch when sony malysia usully will start to sell it??
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sony thailand leak they will be selling in march
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sony thailand leak they will be selling in march
dono abt malaysia lar  laugh.gif
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well, don't put your hopes too high as sony malaysia is known to be late in launching new product.

on the tx case, sony malaysia have yet to got stock. but then some seller already start selling ori set since last week, or two... 3rd party seller got ori stock earlier than sony malaysia??? weird... but if it's true, dunno what sony malaysia is doing... bravo sony malaysia rclxms.gif
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so jan 2014 will masuk malaysia?

even tx still not coming yet..zz
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Sony Xperia Z spotted early on CES show floor:

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QUOTE(ping325 @ Jan 7 2013, 12:29 PM)
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QUOTE(ckchan @ Jan 7 2013, 10:17 AM)
well, don't put your hopes too high as sony malaysia is known to be late in launching new product.

on the tx case, sony malaysia have yet to got stock. but then some seller already start selling ori set since last week, or two... 3rd party seller got ori stock earlier than sony malaysia??? weird... but if it's true, dunno what sony malaysia is doing... bravo sony malaysia rclxms.gif
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not every place also got sony center mar...
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bcauz sony malaysia give stock 2 the phones seller 1st
not every place also got sony center mar...
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well it may seems like a weird move cos usually all company will look after their own "anak" first b4 any other "anak luar nikah"
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from gsm arena, this xperia Z dont have NFC... hmm.gif
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A closer look of the Xperia Z caught wild in CES:

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QUOTE(kakikubesi @ Jan 7 2013, 04:26 PM)
from gsm arena, this xperia Z dont have NFC... hmm.gif
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cannot wait for the full spec Z and ZL...
mybe someone can share pic from the back...
leak pic dont see any flash...
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cannot wait for the full spec Z and ZL...
mybe someone can share pic from the back...
leak pic dont see any flash...
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older version of xperia Z code name yuga, with mess back cover
new 1 is mirror back cover, led flash is concealed inside the mirror reflection
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hopefully the 4g can be use in malaysia biggrin.gif
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hopefully the 4g can be use in malaysia biggrin.gif
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mostly, bcauz we share the same band in japan & singapore 2600mhz
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then i shall skip nexus 4.

get xperia z. wait for someone to port cm10.1 . proffitttt
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then i shall skip nexus 4.

get xperia z. wait for someone to port cm10.1 . proffitttt
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A closer look of the Xperia Z caught wild in CES:

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Is it just me or does the bottom bezel looks too thick?
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Is it just me or does the bottom bezel looks too thick?
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QUOTE(kakikubesi @ Jan 7 2013, 04:26 PM)
from gsm arena, this xperia Z dont have NFC... hmm.gif
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without nfc for such a expensive phone it just become a big deal breaker.
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It was confirmed today that XPERIA Z/ZL is NFC enabled. biggrin.gif
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looks like both Z and ZL have camera button..
but no ZL pic?

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looks like both Z and ZL have camera button..
but no ZL pic?
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from sony website, Z looks like dont have cam button, but at youtube, ZL have it.
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Z vs Butterfly in battery: 2,330 vs 2,020 (source from GSMArena)

So Z beat B in very department. Next will be on S4. i5S/6 is foreseen to be tiny screen, far lacked behind and not going water resistant.

If S4 no water resistant, then Z will be my next phone. ^^
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one more think,

Z Dimensions

139 x 71 x 7.9 mm
5.47 x 2.79 x 0.31 inches

TX Dimensions

131 x 68.6 x 8.6 mm
5.16 x 2.70 x 0.34 in

I compared with TX coz TX owner thumbup.gif

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so few more mth then ZL come 1st...
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from sony website, Z looks like dont have cam button, but at youtube, ZL have it.
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QUOTE(Jmnote @ Jan 8 2013, 10:40 AM)
Z vs Butterfly in battery: 2,330 vs 2,020 (source from GSMArena)

So Z beat B in very department. Next will be on S4. i5S/6 is foreseen to be tiny screen, far lacked behind and not going water resistant.

If S4 no water resistant, then Z will be my next phone. ^^
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for sure butterfly will fail, in the batt dept
like oneX, awesome phone, terrible batt...

2330 at least at par as the processor need to push a full hd on 5in.... icon_idea.gif icon_idea.gif
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what's that controller like thingy in the video?
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This is so awesome..
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Ever since the day i own Xperia Go and later Xperia Acro S
IP57 is indeed a nifty feature you don't want to miss on.

Now they are offering 5''inch and Quadcore procs.
Will consider selling both handphone for Xperia Z

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Source: http://www.theverge.com/2013/1/7/3847944/s...a-z-zl-hands-on

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Hands-on done by The Verge:

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Source: http://www.theverge.com/2013/1/7/3847944/s...a-z-zl-hands-on
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according to them the screen brightness is not up to par with other 1080 screen they've already test~what a bummer~~
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i just dont know any more which shud i go for.. xperia z or zl?? both are too stunningly beautiful.
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but ZL only available at selected market right ?? Z was international

Z got cam button
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Z is more stunning with glass at the back
whereas ZL is rubbery type

Z is LTE dependent so not sure it can support 2.6k band

edit: textured plastic matterial for ZL back

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QUOTE(alfredtwl @ Jan 8 2013, 11:44 AM)
but ZL only available at selected market right ?? Z was international

Z got cam button
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i think i prefer ZL, smaller in size and non-glass back
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i dun think that is a shutter button.. the positioning also kinda weird if it was a shutter button.
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It's the on/off button.

Z no shutter button. The space where a shutter button should be is where the loudspeakers are.
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Yeah, I think no physical camera button on Z, due to waterproof feature.
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The issue whether Malaysia getting Z or ZL model.

In the case of T vs TX, Malaysia got the TX.
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Yeah, I think no physical camera button on Z, due to waterproof feature.
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Doubt it's due to waterproof feature. I am currently using the XPERIA Acro S which is also waterproof and it has the physical camera shutter button as well.

If anything, it's due to the size/design constraints or design decision.
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Nice looking phone with good specs but battery 2330 only? doh.gif
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Nice looking phone with good specs but battery 2330 only? doh.gif
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I feel your concerns as well, but I will wait until actual reviews are out with tests.

After all, the HTC Butterfly does come with only 2020 mAh battery, even smaller, but yet the phone is bigger than the XPERIA Z, not to mention the construction of the XPERIA Z does allow for it to be waterproof and dustproof.

It could be that the S4 Pro chip is really that efficient that manufacturers don't see the need to place a nuclear reactor on their phones?
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QUOTE(luckyhillkop @ Jan 8 2013, 12:05 PM)
Nice looking phone with good specs but battery 2330 only? doh.gif
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battery larger thn samsung s3 ady,
thn they r using their own LED LCD instead of amoled
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QUOTE(Areas Elysian @ Jan 8 2013, 12:10 PM)
I feel your concerns as well, but I will wait until actual reviews are out with tests.

After all, the HTC Butterfly does come with only 2020 mAh battery, even smaller, but yet the phone is bigger than the XPERIA Z, not to mention the construction of the XPERIA Z does allow for it to be waterproof and dustproof.

It could be that the S4 Pro chip is really that efficient that manufacturers don't see the need to place a nuclear reactor on their phones?
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QUOTE(junsheng @ Jan 8 2013, 12:11 PM)
battery larger thn samsung s3 ady,
thn they r using their own LED LCD instead of amoled
much more battery saving thn amoled devices  laugh.gif
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Is the battery non-removable?

All this manufacturers keep bumping phone specs which is awesome but the increase of battery capacity should be on par with the increase of the rest of the specs. Screen keeps getting bigger, display sharper and brighter, etc, new phone needs much bigger battery. If only they focus on improving battery life as much as the general specs.


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Is the battery non-removable?

All this manufacturers keep bumping phone specs which is awesome but the increase of battery capacity should be on par with the increase of the rest of the specs. Screen keeps getting bigger, display sharper and brighter, etc, new phone needs much bigger battery. If only they focus on improving battery life as much as the general specs.
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Non-removable.

I hear your concerns and agree to an extend. IMHO, I would rather they focus on more powerful but efficient processor/screens/radio chip sets.. I do not want to have to charge my phone for a few hours to get from empty to 100%.

If the XPZ can give me a smooth performance and a full day regular usage on a full charge, I will be happy.

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got sdcard as well?

damn....droid dna can throw away edi..
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is the phone waterproof or splashproof..?
can take underwater pictures..? drool.gif
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is the phone waterproof or splashproof..?
can take underwater pictures..?  drool.gif
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XPERIA Z is waterproof.

As for underwater pictures, have to wait for actual reviewers to test that out. If the screen capacitive touch technology is the same as the Acro S, then no. Acro S's screen goes crazy underwater and it doesn't function. Couple that issue with the lack of a dedicated physical camera shutter release button, you will not be able to take anything while submerged.. Unless you set a timer for 2/10 seconds while above the water and submerge it for the shot.
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Absolutely Stunning!!
As expected from sony. rclxms.gif
Coming from xperia arc,this might be my upgrade. biggrin.gif
but i have to wait till xperia ultimate hd+ custom rom for arc comes out before i decide.
If it makes my arc even more smooth then ill stay with my old arc for a little longer. rolleyes.gif
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QUOTE(Areas Elysian @ Jan 8 2013, 12:37 PM)
XPERIA Z is waterproof.

As for underwater pictures, have to wait for actual reviewers to test that out. If the screen capacitive touch technology is the same as the Acro S, then no. Acro S's screen goes crazy underwater and it doesn't function. Couple that issue with the lack of a dedicated physical camera shutter release button, you will not be able to take anything while submerged.. Unless you set a timer for 2/10 seconds while above the water and submerge it for the shot.
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thanks anyway biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(ck.chunkeat @ Jan 8 2013, 12:39 PM)
Absolutely Stunning!!
As expected from sony.  rclxms.gif
Coming from xperia arc,this might be my upgrade.  biggrin.gif
but i have to wait till xperia ultimate hd+ custom rom for arc comes out before i decide.
If it makes my arc even more smooth then ill stay with my old arc for a little longer. rolleyes.gif
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we r in the same boat mate, me too currently using arc.. i think it is bout tym to upgrade. rclxms.gif still in dilemma btween Z and ZL tho, Z looks classy n premium, ZL looks tough n i fancy the led strip.. need to wait whether both phone will b available here in our country or either 1. also i think i can live without the shutter button as i rarely use it on my arc. laugh.gif
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the back is actually glossy plastic but feels like glass, and the black colour one seems to be a finger print magnet

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Official Spec from Sony

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one thing for sure, a protective hard case is a must, thus eliminating the sleek look sad.gif
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Oo..it's actually water resistant...not waterproof sweat.gif
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Spec for Z said can support LTE band 7. So can use in Malaysia. While ZL does not support band 7. Just don't know how many months we need to wait.

It looks like all 2013 flagship phones will be at 5". But the 5" screen is too big for me. I should be getting a TX now.
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QUOTE(sniper69 @ Jan 8 2013, 12:58 PM)
one thing for sure, a protective hard case is a must, thus eliminating the sleek look sad.gif
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no need ma..just get one of those soft pouch should be enough as putting any casing will spoilt its beauty
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there have diff proc between Z and ZL but both Quad

Z : 1.5 GHz Qualcomm APQ8064+MDM9215M Quad Core

ZL : 1.5 GHz Qualcomm MSM8064 Quad Core

Battery life up to more than 10hours for talk time..
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shocking.gif drool.gif drool.gif drool.gif rclxm9.gif im sold men... i think it is Z for me.. demm, my hear beating so fast, really cant wait for it..
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QUOTE(waveweaver @ Jan 8 2013, 01:03 PM)
no need ma..just get one of those soft pouch should be enough as putting any casing will spoilt its beauty
ya betul +1 no need to put that hard case. as both side covered by shatter proof sheet, both are glasses as from Sony's spec.
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QUOTE(ZeneticX @ Jan 8 2013, 12:55 PM)
the back is actually glossy plastic but feels like glass, and the black colour one seems to be a finger print magnet

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its like iphone4 back glass laugh.gif
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its like iphone4 back glass laugh.gif
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you can always wash the phone under running tap water or may can even soap it clean... brows.gif
try that on fruit phone and you need appointment to service centre laugh.gif
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Oo..it's actually water resistant...not waterproof sweat.gif
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any idea when is the most likely eta of this new toy ?

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QUOTE(waveweaver @ Jan 8 2013, 01:17 PM)
you can always wash the phone under running tap water or may can even soap it clean... brows.gif
try that on fruit phone and you need appointment to service centre laugh.gif
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The Xperia Z will go to the toilet more frequent than the owner. biggrin.gif
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shocking.gif  drool.gif  drool.gif  drool.gif  rclxm9.gif  im sold men... i think it is Z for me.. demm, my hear beating so fast, really cant wait for it..
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i think in GSMArena, the spec given some are wrongla,

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QUOTE(sniper69 @ Jan 8 2013, 01:20 PM)
i think in GSMArena, the spec given some are wrongla,

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they haven't updated yet laa
they always speculate specs first from prototype
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oho... doh.gif, silly me.

so, basically Z and ZL is identical right? i mean, from both specs, build except the dimensional?
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QUOTE(uzary @ Jan 8 2013, 12:48 PM)
we r in the same boat mate, me too currently using arc.. i think it is bout tym to upgrade. rclxms.gif  still in dilemma btween Z and ZL tho, Z looks classy n premium, ZL looks tough n i fancy the led strip.. need to wait whether both phone will b available here in our country or either 1. also i think i can live without the shutter button as i rarely use it on my arc.  laugh.gif
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my arc is still useable,on top of that,the new ultimate hd 2.0.3 makes it so much smoother compare to last time,less lag now..cant wait for ultimate hd+..
3 months more and the arc will be with me for 2 years already.. biggrin.gif
but if i were to choose, xperia Z will def be my choice..the mirror and design is just so stunning and elegant. rclxms.gif
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As expected, everything is perfect, except for the battery; a letdown. Kudos to Sony anyway
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dono y gsm arena... they always give wrong info at lunch
both front n back is dragontrail glass laugh.gif
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QUOTE(junsheng @ Jan 8 2013, 01:41 PM)
dono y gsm arena... they always give wrong info at lunch
both front n back is dragontrail glass  laugh.gif
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need a confirmation on the back of xperia z tho, some claimed it was hard plastic that look like glass. i hope it is really the dragontrail glass. flex.gif rclxms.gif
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QUOTE(uzary @ Jan 8 2013, 01:49 PM)
need a confirmation on the back of xperia z tho, some claimed it was hard plastic that look like glass. i hope it is really the dragontrail glass.  flex.gif  rclxms.gif
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http://www.sonymobile.com/global-en/
there written it is glass back, anyway i updated it in 1st page ady
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Is it easy to root Sony phone and is the service centre any good..?

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yes easy 2 root, if u unlock bootloader, legally
but if u illegal root with locked bootloader, need 2 do more stuff
if unlock bootloader u loose all sony stuffs like bravia engin n clear audio+

sony service centre, each different location or staff is different lar
but if ur device is under warranty they will change new 1, 4 u.
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i also wonder why the bottom of xperia z has a lot of space, they shud make the home,back menu button there instead of on screen button, or at least put a XPERIA logo there. an illuminated XPeria would be nice like the xperia v iinm.
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yes easy 2 root, if u unlock bootloader, legally
but if u illegal root with locked bootloader, need 2 do more stuff
if unlock bootloader u loose all sony stuffs like bravia engin n clear audio+

sony service centre, each different location or staff is different lar
but if ur device is under warranty they will change new 1, 4 u.
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QUOTE(uzary @ Jan 8 2013, 02:04 PM)
i also wonder why the bottom of xperia z has a lot of space, they shud make the home,back menu button there instead of on screen button, or at least put a XPERIA logo there. an illuminated XPeria would be nice like the xperia v iinm.
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When you make a phone that thin, and the top part is being take over by the earpiece, main camera module as well as the front camera module, you need the space at the bottom for the loud speakers and vibrator. Just from my observation. Of course, we can only really know once someone rips open a XPERIA Z for us.
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btw..one noob question please as all this while i'm using Samsung product tongue.gif
Is it easy to root Sony phone and is the service centre any good..?

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easy for who have rooted HTC b4
can be quite challenging for Sammy / Gnex user rooter

edit: not challenging but more like troublesome...not as straight fwd as sammy


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easy for who have rooted HTC b4
can be quite challenging for Sammy / Gnex user rooter

edit: not challenging but more like troublesome...not as straight fwd as sammy
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oh come on
>_> there's alot of guide out there.
XDA have plenty
and the recent co-operation between Sony Devs and XDA Devs is showing its effect.

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oh come on
>_> there's alot of guide out there.
XDA have plenty
and the recent co-operation between Sony Devs and XDA Devs is showing its effect.
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it is still not as easy as rooting a sammy or nexus
even the toolkit is not user friendly
have rooted lotsa SE/Sony phone, definitely not as friendly
sammy toolkit or chainfire rooting is like noob proof ...hahaha brows.gif brows.gif
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QUOTE(sebastianX11 @ Jan 8 2013, 02:21 PM)
it is still not as easy as rooting a sammy or nexus
even the toolkit is not user friendly
have rooted lotsa SE/Sony phone, definitely not as friendly
sammy toolkit or chainfire rooting is like noob proof ...hahaha  brows.gif  brows.gif
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Yea..it's true. Somemore now with the Exynos4 exploit..you can doing it by just installing one apk..and you're rooted...lolz
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Yea..it's true. Somemore now with the Exynos4 exploit..you can doing it by just installing one apk..and you're rooted...lolz
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but i am looking to see if there is a xperia 6 incher...

will look stupid if i buy Z and the 6 incher is out the following quarter sad.gif
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hmm... no news on the illusive huashan?
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QUOTE(ckchan @ Jan 8 2013, 02:35 PM)
hmm... no news on the illusive huashan?
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hmm... no news on the illusive huashan?
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is it the xperia 6 incher?
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QUOTE(nate_nightroad @ Jan 8 2013, 02:33 PM)
THE BEAST!

but i am looking to see if there is a xperia 6 incher...

will look stupid if i buy Z and the 6 incher is out the following quarter sad.gif
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6'' for a phone is sweat.gif sweat.gif shakehead.gif for me.. even 5'' i already wondering wil it fit into my jean doh.gif laugh.gif
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btw guys i notice there is no more sony ericsson logo on the phone which im glad, dun really like the logo tongue.gif

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QUOTE(uzary @ Jan 8 2013, 03:08 PM)
btw guys i notice there is no more sony ericsson logo on the phone which im glad, dun really like the logo  tongue.gif
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they already stopped using SE logo since Xperia 2012 models.

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this Z is confirmed 2.6k LTE Band
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QUOTE(sebastianX11 @ Jan 8 2013, 03:25 PM)
this Z is confirmed 2.6k LTE Band
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asia version will stick with 2600 - 1300 mhz
us version 700 - 300 mhz
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QUOTE(fariz @ Jan 8 2013, 03:20 PM)
they already stopped using SE logo since Xperia 2012 models.
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u sure bout it bro? 2012 0r 2013 model? cos xperia t, tx, still got that logo. hmm.gif

btw bro, to avoid a confusion, wat i mean the logo of sony ericsson at the back of the phone. the green sphere thing. this thing

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QUOTE(junsheng @ Jan 8 2013, 03:31 PM)
asia version will stick with 2600 - 1300 mhz
us version 700 - 300 mhz
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how bout zl? same too?
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QUOTE(uzary @ Jan 8 2013, 03:56 PM)
how bout zl? same too?
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QUOTE(uzary @ Jan 8 2013, 03:56 PM)
u sure bout it bro? 2012 0r 2013 model? cos xperia t, tx,  still got that logo. hmm.gif

btw bro, to avoid a confusion, wat i mean the logo of sony ericsson at the back of the phone. the green sphere thing.
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Bro, Logo still the same as before and after Sony brought over Sony Ericsson.. But no more Erisson in their name (Sony-Ericsson).. All new management and new setup..

Have u realized that is the any Ericsson wording appear in 2012 Model.. NOP.. only "SONY" but the logo still maintained..

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QUOTE(junsheng @ Jan 8 2013, 03:59 PM)
same
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then i hope both these phone will be available here, dunwan like T and TX where Tx only for asia. if they intended to bring either 1, i hope it will b xperia Z, i think i fall for the Z already.. wub.gif
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QUOTE(uzary @ Jan 8 2013, 03:56 PM)
u sure bout it bro? 2012 0r 2013 model? cos xperia t, tx,  still got that logo. hmm.gif

btw bro, to avoid a confusion, wat i mean the logo of sony ericsson at the back of the phone. the green sphere thing. this thing

» Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... «

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Yeah.. you are correct. Sony only finalized the deal towards the end of 2011.

Since most handsets have a 9-15 months cycle from drawing board to prototype and manufacturing, most of the phones in 2012 still spotted the Sony Ericsson green liquid energy flow logo as the would be too far into the development cycle to have the change. Only the last few models in 2012 such as the XPERIA V was without the logo.

Moving forward, all Sony Mobiles handset will only spot the Sony and XPERIA logo.
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QUOTE(droidtrix @ Jan 8 2013, 04:01 PM)
Bro, Logo still the same as before and after Sony brought over Sony Ericsson.. But no more Erisson in their name (Sony-Ericsson).. All new management and new setup..
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i knew bout that, what i was trying to say is that, sony didnt put that logo at the back of xperia Z, zl n i just discovered xperia v too.

it is not a big deal tho, but just saying that i dun really like the logo, but i like it if they change the color to blue instead of green. biggrin.gif laugh.gif

like this user posted image the blue one is cool as my fav color is blue. tongue.gif

i wonder if sony decided to no longer using the logo, or if they stick with the logo, i hope the put a led on the logo that can change various colors. imagine how cool is that. cool2.gif
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QUOTE(Areas Elysian @ Jan 8 2013, 04:06 PM)
Yeah.. you are correct. Sony only finalized the deal towards the end of 2011.

Since most handsets have a 9-15 months cycle from drawing board to prototype and manufacturing, most of the phones in 2012 still spotted the Sony Ericsson green liquid energy flow logo as the would be too far into the development cycle to have the change. Only the last few models in 2012 such as the XPERIA V was without the logo.

Moving forward, all Sony Mobiles handset will only spot the Sony and XPERIA logo.
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thanks for the clarification bro. now that is indeed a good news. rclxms.gif
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QUOTE(uzary @ Jan 8 2013, 02:58 PM)
6'' for a phone is  sweat.gif  sweat.gif  shakehead.gif  for me.. even 5'' i already wondering wil it fit into my jean  doh.gif  laugh.gif
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And now the wait. What's your guess?

Earliest by June? July? August?


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QUOTE(jueiri @ Jan 8 2013, 04:33 PM)
And now the wait. What's your guess?

Earliest by June? July? August?
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if its June, i'll give this a pass....
the market would be crammed with similar spec phone
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QUOTE(jueiri @ Jan 8 2013, 04:33 PM)
And now the wait. What's your guess?

Earliest by June? July? August?
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thailand leak will be selling in March
RM1988 if convert directly 2 malaysia currency
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QUOTE(junsheng @ Jan 8 2013, 04:38 PM)
thailand leak will be selling in March
RM1988 if convert directly 2 malaysia currency
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In Aussie and Germany too
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i assumed it will price at RM2199.

btw TS, how do u know the glass used is dragontrail glass? cos from all the videos i watched, they only mention a tempered glass..
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You know what i really wana see? A drop test to see whether the glass shatters easily or not.. smile.gif
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QUOTE(uzary @ Jan 8 2013, 05:24 PM)
i assumed it will price at RM2199.

btw TS, how do u know the glass used is dragontrail glass? cos from all the videos i watched, they only mention a tempered glass..
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sony is using dragontrail 4 every of their devices like TV n smartphones
not all TV lar, but most, got a while i think sony got advertise they got use gorilla glass 4 their TV
but thn no more n change back 2 dragontrail glass
if u google search sony use dragontrail u will come out with the result
of ppl proving they r using Japan's Asahi dragontrail using colour code lasser scanner

dono where the article go ady sad.gif but it is still there
they prove tat sony is using dragontrail glass since xperia 2011 phones
such as xperia active

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QUOTE(ck.chunkeat @ Jan 8 2013, 05:27 PM)
You know what i really wana see? A drop test to see whether the glass shatters easily or not.. smile.gif
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it will not shatters bcauz all sony phone comes with shatters proof sheet
the glass will still break but will not shatters 2 all the place
so u still can use the phone temporary provided if u still can c the display laugh.gif

the shatters proof sheet is placed on top of the glass,
the glass is scratch resistance but the sheet is not,
but u can remove the sheet if u want 2


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QUOTE(junsheng @ Jan 8 2013, 05:40 PM)
it will not shatters bcauz all sony phone comes with shatters proof sheet
the glass will still break but will not shatters 2 all the place
so u still can use the phone temporary provided if u still can c the display  laugh.gif

the shatters proof sheet is placed on top of the glass,
the glass is scratch resistance but the sheet is not,
but u can remove the sheet if u want 2


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i know about the protective shatter proof sheet as i have a arc myself..what i meant was the cracks like iphones/nx4 tongue.gif
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yup, me too wondering will the back of xperia z be like this

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QUOTE(uzary @ Jan 8 2013, 05:24 PM)
i assumed it will price at RM2199.

btw TS, how do u know the glass used is dragontrail glass? cos from all the videos i watched, they only mention a tempered glass..
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yes .... one of the video from sony does mention they use dragon tail ....


but i wondering why they use IP 55 and IP 57 in the mention, cause i found it really funny cause no one use two rating on one device .....


pls don't be idiot said first IP 55 is for dust and second ip 57 for water, cause IP only use two number, first number stand for solid and second number stand for liquid, third is letter but rarely see this type gadget around ....
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QUOTE(uzary @ Jan 8 2013, 06:00 PM)
yup, me too wondering will the back of xperia z be like this

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Thats what i meant.. laugh.gif
If crack like this easily then might have to reconsider properly.. sweat.gif
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QUOTE(uzary @ Jan 8 2013, 05:24 PM)
i assumed it will price at RM2199.

btw TS, how do u know the glass used is dragontrail glass? cos from all the videos i watched, they only mention a tempered glass..
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Not confirmed but most likely
http://www.phonearena.com/news/Sony-Xperia...7-phone_id38389
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QUOTE(waveweaver @ Jan 8 2013, 07:20 PM)
no worry sony phone prices drop very fast ... hhahaah
actually i more worry on battery life, like acro S (lucky din't buy that phone, obsolete in 3 month smile.gif)
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QUOTE(SonnyCooL @ Jan 8 2013, 07:22 PM)
no worry sony phone prices drop very fast ... hhahaah
actually i more worry on battery life, like acro S (lucky din't buy that phone, obsolete in 3 month smile.gif)
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xperia T/TX/TL obsolete in 2 month whn xperia V released in december
now xperia v is going 2 obsolete in march whn xperia Z release laugh.gif

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QUOTE(SonnyCooL @ Jan 8 2013, 07:22 PM)
no worry sony phone prices drop very fast ... hhahaah
actually i more worry on battery life, like acro S (lucky din't buy that phone, obsolete in 3 month smile.gif)
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according to cnet the battery is at 2700mAh

http://reviews.cnet.com/cell-phones/sony-x...7-35567069.html

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QUOTE(evofantasy @ Jan 8 2013, 08:05 PM)
according to cnet the battery is at 2700mAh

http://reviews.cnet.com/cell-phones/sony-x...7-35567069.html
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I think they got mix up with the ZL rclxub.gif
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QUOTE(junsheng @ Jan 8 2013, 07:27 PM)
xperia T/TX/TL obsolete in 2 month whn xperia V released in december
now xperia v is going 2 obsolete in march whn xperia Z release  laugh.gif
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yah this is how sony work now ..... so when time to buy xperia Z, new phone on the line d ...


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different phone for different segment ma....

Z is premium...V is high ended
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different phone for different segment ma....

Z is premium...V is high ended
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V not really highend compare with other brand la, still using 1 gb ram ....

for me, xperia is Sony first highend mobile that able to compete with other brand, but come out six month slower than other's brand .....

was expecting more from xperia Z but seem like design/outlook is good but nothing more ..... why they remove dedicated camera button .......
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QUOTE(SonnyCooL @ Jan 8 2013, 09:19 PM)
V not really highend compare with other brand la, still using 1 gb ram ....

for me, xperia is Sony first highend mobile that able to compete with other brand, but come out six month slower than other's brand .....

was expecting more from xperia Z but seem like design/outlook is good but nothing more ..... why they remove dedicated camera button .......
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that's y i am looking forward to their xperia 6 incher mammoth...

rumored to be 3gb ram with 16megapix camera...fffffffffuuuuuuu

now gotta wait for MWC to see if the rumor were true
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QUOTE(nate_nightroad @ Jan 8 2013, 09:21 PM)
that's y i am looking forward to their xperia 6 incher mammoth...

rumored to be 3gb ram with 16megapix camera...fffffffffuuuuuuu

now gotta wait for MWC to see if the rumor were true
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hmm.gif i wonder why their 441ppi screen is TFT?
why not go for SLCD?
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QUOTE(hewtwok @ Jan 8 2013, 10:08 PM)
hmm.gif i wonder why their 441ppi screen is TFT?
why not go for SLCD?
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almost all LCD in Smartphone are TFT. other than that is AMOLED.
SLCD is TFT based.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/TFT_LCD

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the design of sony phone always get to attract people biggrin.gif
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I too fall in love with Xperia Z. First time I love Sony android phone from outer to inner.

High possible my replacement phone coming soon!

Awaiting it launching! biggrin.gif

Please bring in Z as I want Z only because Z is water resistance, dusk resistance and much slimmer and elegance look. smile.gif

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this one is dust n water proof rite, not shock proof like legendary motorola defy?
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QUOTE(Andrewtst @ Jan 8 2013, 11:00 PM)
I too fall in love with Xperia Z. First time I love Sony android phone from outer to inner.

High possible my replacement phone coming soon!

Awaiting it launching! biggrin.gif

Please bring in Z as I want Z only because Z is water resistance, dusk resistance and much slimmer and elegance look. smile.gif
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yup, but i hope both Z and Zl wil be available here, but if sony wil bring only one of it here, i wanted the Z. stil dun understand why sony didnt sell officially xperia T here or more specific asia countries?? i hope they wont do that with this, if not no choice but to opt for an ap set.
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hopefully the price is reasonable.
Might getting this phone soon. wub.gif
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QUOTE(uzary @ Jan 8 2013, 11:33 PM)
yup, but i hope both Z and Zl wil be available here, but if sony wil bring only one of it here, i wanted the Z. stil dun understand why sony didnt sell officially xperia T here or more specific asia countries?? i hope they wont do that with this, if not no choice but to opt for an ap set.
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Both cane here is the best.

I notice ZL bottom part is much nicer, Z too many blank place and ZL got light at bottom which was cool.

Now I not sure want which one. He he....
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QUOTE(Andrewtst @ Jan 8 2013, 11:36 PM)
Both cane here is the best.

I notice ZL bottom part is much nicer, Z too many blank place and ZL got light at bottom which was cool.

Now I not sure want which one. He he....
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take Z, u can bring it to ur toilet
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QUOTE(ogiveyakuza @ Jan 8 2013, 11:39 PM)
take Z, u can bring it to ur toilet
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if they available here, but if sony bring in only ZL like the TX, then how sad.gif
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QUOTE(uzary @ Jan 8 2013, 11:40 PM)
if they available here, but if sony bring in only ZL like the TX, then how  sad.gif
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Don't worry,
Z and ZL is much difference if you compare with T and TX

so i think they will bring both

they need 2 price segment what
1.9k segment and 2.1k segment.

like Xperia V and Xperia TX
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here what im talking about, it happening -

Sony Xperia ZL announced for “selected markets”

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Whether you prefer one or the other may be a moot point though, as Sony is only launching the Xperia ZL in selected markets. We can confirm that the Xperia ZL will not be available in the UK, for example.


not that i dont like ZL, but i love Z classy n premium look. hope we get the Z.
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Z is damn premium...elegant yet simple.. smile.gif
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I believe Z is international version which available world wide.

If Z not coming, then sorry la Sony...

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Xperia z is a good phone...never try high end sony android phone..should my next android will be sony?if battery life good..maybe consider z as my next choice...design is elegant...ax water proof...shiok...can go hiking and tracking...bring the phone...
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Well, it's your, XPERIA Z.
When i saw the other one, XPERIA ZL, first word come out in my mind, is that a SAMSUNG phone?
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The difference in term of design is just that z covered with glass and zl covered with rubberish material,so not much difference also...
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QUOTE(Andrewtst @ Jan 8 2013, 11:00 PM)
I too fall in love with Xperia Z. First time I love Sony android phone from outer to inner.

High possible my replacement phone coming soon!

Awaiting it launching! biggrin.gif

Please bring in Z as I want Z only because Z is water resistance, dusk resistance and much slimmer and elegance look. smile.gif
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1st time fall in love with sony phone LOL
btw if sony malaysia bring Z and ZL, Z sure more expensive as it got water and dust resistant @@

yet, ZL not support our telco LTE cry.gif
luckily Z can as it got 2600mhz

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if they available here, but if sony bring in only ZL like the TX, then how  sad.gif
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tx and t got different ???

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Battery stamina is nice addition. Hope they can bring it to older xperia phone too.

http://lepakcc.blogspot.com/2013/01/ces-20...rphone.html?m=1
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QUOTE(XeactorZ @ Jan 9 2013, 12:14 AM)
1st time fall in love with sony phone LOL
btw if sony malaysia bring Z and ZL, Z sure more expensive as it got water and dust resistant @@

yet, ZL not support our telco LTE cry.gif
luckily Z can as it got 2600mhz
tx and t got different ???
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Xperia V is water resistance but they manage to keep the same price as TX
RM1599 for dual core snapdragon s4 pro with IP57.
i hope they will bring both and do a 1899 or maybe higher(acceptable since its 5''inch phone and not like certain phone which is only 4''inch but still 2.3k)
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Xperia V is water resistance but they manage to keep the same price as TX
RM1599 for dual core snapdragon s4 pro with IP57.
i hope they will bring both and do a 1899 or maybe higher(acceptable since its 5''inch phone and not like certain phone which is only 4''inch but still 2.3k)
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I am asking difference with tx and t
for tx and v I know their difference are internal storage, screen size and got LTE
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QUOTE(XeactorZ @ Jan 9 2013, 12:14 AM)
1st time fall in love with sony phone LOL
btw if sony malaysia bring Z and ZL, Z sure more expensive as it got water and dust resistant @@

yet, ZL not support our telco LTE cry.gif
luckily Z can as it got 2600mhz
tx and t got different ???
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Haha! tongue.gif

Never proper check on LTE part, in that case bring on Z is enough already. Hehe...
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QUOTE(SonnyCooL @ Jan 8 2013, 09:19 PM)
V not really highend compare with other brand la, still using 1 gb ram ....

for me, xperia is Sony first highend mobile that able to compete with other brand, but come out six month slower than other's brand .....

was expecting more from xperia Z but seem like design/outlook is good but nothing more ..... why they remove dedicated camera button .......
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xperia v t tx tl but they r faster thn s3 laugh.gif
http://www.gsmarena.com/sony_xperia_tx_t_a...o-news-4722.php

bcauz sony is using 2 stage camera button which cannot implement
if the device is waterproof

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QUOTE(hewtwok @ Jan 8 2013, 10:08 PM)
hmm.gif i wonder why their 441ppi screen is TFT?
why not go for SLCD?
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xperia Z n ZL's screen is 443 ppi
SLCD technology belong 2 sony 1 http://www.digitaltrends.com/mobile/htc-ph...-slcd-displays/

y sony didn't use SLCD bcauz sony is using their own screen panel
which is vertical alignment screen, they r using spva led lcd panel 4 their phones laugh.gif
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QUOTE(XeactorZ @ Jan 9 2013, 12:14 AM)
1st time fall in love with sony phone LOL
btw if sony malaysia bring Z and ZL, Z sure more expensive as it got water and dust resistant @@

yet, ZL not support our telco LTE cry.gif
luckily Z can as it got 2600mhz
tx and t got different ???
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Ts did mentioned b4 that z n zl wil hv similar spec including the lte band. So I think it will feat 2600mhz too for zl.
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QUOTE(uzary @ Jan 9 2013, 01:09 AM)
Ts did mentioned b4 that z n zl wil hv similar spec including the lte band. So I think it will feat 2600mhz too for zl.
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only us 1 will be different
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Xperia Z:
http://developer.sonymobile.com/products/p...cation/xperiaz/

Xperia ZL: http://developer.sonymobile.com/products/p...ation/xperiazl/

If based on the LTE band, we will be getting Xperia Z as ZL not support LTE Band 7
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QUOTE(Azrage @ Jan 9 2013, 01:19 AM)
Xperia Z:
http://developer.sonymobile.com/products/p...cation/xperiaz/

Xperia ZL: http://developer.sonymobile.com/products/p...ation/xperiazl/

If based on the LTE band, we will be getting Xperia Z as ZL not support LTE Band 7
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just now afternoon i c many times got band 7 in .... http://www.sonymobile.com/global-en/produc...fications/#tabs
hrmmm hmm.gif i think maybe their mistake, change it ady laugh.gif

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it has been long time didn't head sony phone news since sony Satio, Aino , Vivaz bla bla sony erricson symbian era lol...

now i watch this video really looks tempting, but the Exmor R sensor is how good compare with Nokia samsung iphone? (or use the previous model to compare with, i just want hear opinion tongue.gif)

ya, shutter button is a plus point for me when shooting with phone, can use pre-focus technique for pan and shoot skill tongue.gif

how is the sony audio card performance compare with samsung SIII / Note 2? tongue.gif

also quality built? etc lol...too much to ask here lol
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QUOTE(Agito666 @ Jan 9 2013, 01:46 AM)
it has been long time didn't head sony phone news since sony Satio, Aino , Vivaz bla bla sony erricson symbian era lol...

now i watch this video really looks tempting, but the Exmor R sensor is how good compare with Nokia samsung iphone? (or use the previous model to compare with, i just want hear opinion tongue.gif)

ya, shutter button is a plus point for me when shooting with phone, can use pre-focus technique for pan and shoot skill tongue.gif

how is the sony audio card performance compare with samsung SIII / Note 2? tongue.gif

also quality built? etc lol...too much to ask here lol
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I believe the new Exmor RS sensor can capture more better with low noise photos in low light condition. Try to read more information in sony developer website, they did explain how ExmorRS sensor works. http://www.sony.net/SonyInfo/News/Press/20...107E/index.html

I didn't use S3/Note2. But had tried friends one. Hmm, Sony had integrated the walkman apps in device which u able to use sound enhancement to adjust the equaliser and surrounding sound(in headphone) and xLouD. If u always listening music with on earphone/headphonce, there is few options for u to choose from studio, club and concert hall according to ur like which can give u nice outputs. This one is better than S3 as i know.

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QUOTE(Agito666 @ Jan 9 2013, 01:46 AM)
it has been long time didn't head sony phone news since sony Satio, Aino , Vivaz bla bla sony erricson symbian era lol...

now i watch this video really looks tempting, but the Exmor R sensor is how good compare with Nokia samsung iphone? (or use the previous model to compare with, i just want hear opinion tongue.gif)

ya, shutter button is a plus point for me when shooting with phone, can use pre-focus technique for pan and shoot skill tongue.gif

how is the sony audio card performance compare with samsung SIII / Note 2? tongue.gif

also quality built? etc lol...too much to ask here lol
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samsung & iphone is using sony camera sensor, so cannot win sony proprietary camera sensor laugh.gif
http://news.cnet.com/8301-13579_3-57518444...by-sony-sensor/
http://www.pocket-lint.com/news/45909/sams...e4s-same-camera

samsung s3 & note 2's audio performance is just average only
bcauz mainly they use Walson audio chipset it is a mediocre quality http://www.droid-life.com/2012/06/26/the-s...ns-audio-chips/

but sony phone audio quality also no very good either, if compare 2 good mp3 player
better get a proper mp3 player laugh.gif

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QUOTE(ChuanHong @ Jan 9 2013, 01:54 AM)
I believe the new Exmor RS sensor can capture more better with low noise photos in low light condition. Try to read more information in sony developer website, they did explain how ExmorRS sensor works. http://www.sony.net/SonyInfo/News/Press/20...107E/index.html

I didn't use S3/Note2. But had tried friends one. Hmm, Sony had integrated the walkman apps in device which u able to use sound enhancement to adjust the equaliser and surrounding sound(in headphone) and xLouD. If u always listening music with on earphone/headphonce, there is few options for u to choose from studio, club and concert hall according to ur like which can give u nice outputs. This one is better than S3 as i know.
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samsung n iphone is using sony's old sensor
S3/note2 is using walson audio chipset, just average audio quality only

sony walkman use a more powerful audio chipset compare 2 its phones
sony walkman outperform its phone is almost every case
wat is most important is the audio chipset laugh.gif
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How much is Xperia Z?
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How much is Xperia Z?
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Sony Thailand leak RM1988 if currency converted directly laugh.gif
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So ts, r saying now that zl isnt using the 2600mhz band?
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Sony Thailand leak RM1988 if currency converted directly  laugh.gif
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Erm, if Sony Malaysia follows Sony Thailand's RRP, that will be such a good bargain for a quad core cpu+1080p full hd and 2gb ram drool.gif
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QUOTE(tennytyy @ Jan 9 2013, 02:16 AM)
Erm, if Sony Malaysia follows Sony Thailand's RRP, that will be such a good bargain for a quad core cpu+1080p full hd and 2gb ram drool.gif
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Expect more tho to avoide frustration in later days. Knowing sony, the cheapest would b rm1899-rm2199.
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QUOTE(uzary @ Jan 9 2013, 02:20 AM)
Expect more tho to avoide frustration in later days. Knowing sony, the cheapest would b rm1899-rm2199.
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not lar RM 2199 is samsung set lar

i heard sony phone only top RM 1899 only

even if it get 2199 also very good lor, imagine the thing u will get
free nfc tag, screen protector, high quality sony XB headphone http://www.sonymobile.com/global-en/produc...set-mh-ex300ap/
some country even get fast charger or Hdmi cable or car charger laugh.gif

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QUOTE(uzary @ Jan 9 2013, 02:20 AM)
Expect more tho to avoide frustration in later days. Knowing sony, the cheapest would b rm1899-rm2199.
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Hoping for it to be priced at rm1899, but it is rather impossible then.
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QUOTE(junsheng @ Jan 9 2013, 02:29 AM)
not lar RM 2199 is samsung set lar

i heard sony phone only top RM 1899 only

even if it get 2199 also very good lor, imagine the thing u will get
free nfc tag, screen protector, high quality sony XB headphone http://www.sonymobile.com/global-en/produc...set-mh-ex300ap/ 
some country even get fast charger  or Hdmi cable or car charger laugh.gif
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Until you speak it out, now only i notice sony phone price is max at rm1899.
Good price for xperia z maybe? biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(tennytyy @ Jan 9 2013, 02:32 AM)
Until you speak it out, now only i notice sony phone price is max at rm1899.
Good price for xperia z maybe? biggrin.gif
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yea RM 1899, i still remember tat is Xperia S
thn i crave 4 it, after thn i get it whn my bratha's company order the dev version
come with RM500+ accessories, Hifi headset, 2 nfc tag, hdmi cable,
car charger, fast charger in some country in malaysia we get normal charger
but i buy the fast charger in sony center, 30 min reach 80% charge thumbup.gif


not sure 4 xperia Z, bcauz it come with tis headphone http://www.sonymobile.com/global-en/produc...set-mh-ex300ap/

not cheap wor if u buy it at sony center, few day ago my friend buy a similiar 1
RM 210 without the voice function laugh.gif

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QUOTE(uzary @ Jan 9 2013, 01:09 AM)
Ts did mentioned b4 that z n zl wil hv similar spec including the lte band. So I think it will feat 2600mhz too for zl.
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but according to gsmarena website didn't stated it got 2600 mhz @@
maybe it wrong hmm.gif
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QUOTE(MaxReddevil @ Jan 9 2013, 07:46 AM)
Wonder when it will reach Malaysia
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1st of march...for other places...

malaysia?dunno yet
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I bet, June...
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I bet, June...
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June..!!? doh.gif
Then die lor..it will comes head to head with SGS4 rclxub.gif
Sony should release this beast before other rivals release their flagship phone shakehead.gif
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QUOTE(ZRong223 @ Jan 9 2013, 08:59 AM)
I bet, June...
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QUOTE(junsheng @ Jan 9 2013, 12:37 AM)
xperia v t tx tl but they r faster thn s3  laugh.gif
http://www.gsmarena.com/sony_xperia_tx_t_a...o-news-4722.php

bcauz sony is using 2 stage camera button which cannot implement
if the device is waterproof
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what u means two stages ? is that different with acro S ? i think that must be some technical reason they found from acro S . . . . today technology, two stage (focus and shot) with water proof is just click of their finger smile.gif

QUOTE(junsheng @ Jan 9 2013, 01:58 AM)
samsung & iphone is using sony camera sensor, so cannot win sony proprietary camera sensor  laugh.gif
http://news.cnet.com/8301-13579_3-57518444...by-sony-sensor/
http://www.pocket-lint.com/news/45909/sams...e4s-same-camera

samsung s3 & note 2's audio performance is just average only
bcauz mainly they use Walson audio chipset it is a mediocre quality http://www.droid-life.com/2012/06/26/the-s...ns-audio-chips/

but sony phone audio quality also no very good either, if compare 2 good mp3 player
better get a proper mp3 player  laugh.gif
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Yes sony make sensor (they make for nikon too), but camera is not purely base on sensor it self, especially mobile phone camera smile.gif
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QUOTE(waveweaver @ Jan 9 2013, 09:06 AM)
June..!!? doh.gif
Then die lor..it will comes head to head with SGS4 rclxub.gif
Sony should release this beast before other rivals release their flagship phone shakehead.gif
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if june, than confirm this phone cannot sell again .... even march (is 9 month behind S3) also consider delay already ...

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According to the white papers, there will be two XPERIA Zs out there.

Model C6603 with LTE support
Model C6602 without, only up to HSPDA+

In the white paper for the C6603, it was stated that it will support LTE Bands 1,3,5,7,8,20. In which from what I observe, Band 7 = 2600MHz.

The XPERIA S was announced in CES 2012 as well, with release date end Feb/early March for early market adopters. It came out in Malaysia in the 3rd week of March. XPERIA Ion on the other hand world wide no news during CES.

XPERIA Z has been stated to be out around the same time as the XPERIA S, so I would assume it'll be end March as well. Assumptions only, I have no insider source.

As for the camera button, I have been using the Acro S since its release and have not found any issues with its camera button at all. =\.. and my phone gets spashed on/submerged frequently too..
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QUOTE(ChuanHong @ Jan 9 2013, 01:54 AM)
I believe the new Exmor RS sensor can capture more better with low noise photos in low light condition. Try to read more information in sony developer website, they did explain how ExmorRS sensor works. http://www.sony.net/SonyInfo/News/Press/20...107E/index.html

I didn't use S3/Note2. But had tried friends one. Hmm, Sony had integrated the walkman apps in device which u able to use sound enhancement to adjust the equaliser and surrounding sound(in headphone) and xLouD. If u always listening music with on earphone/headphonce, there is few options for u to choose from studio, club and concert hall according to ur like which can give u nice outputs. This one is better than S3 as i know.
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i was in mobile photographic section for long time there and i hear the Sony Xperia Ray? the first sony erricson using Exmor R sensor...it is not really good compare with nokia n8? or 808 i forget, it is not like almighty as the advertisement said lol. now i wonder how much it's improve now.

oh well i need wait for hand's on for that lol

QUOTE(junsheng @ Jan 9 2013, 01:58 AM)
samsung & iphone is using sony camera sensor, so cannot win sony proprietary camera sensor  laugh.gif
http://news.cnet.com/8301-13579_3-57518444...by-sony-sensor/
http://www.pocket-lint.com/news/45909/sams...e4s-same-camera

samsung s3 & note 2's audio performance is just average only
bcauz mainly they use Walson audio chipset it is a mediocre quality http://www.droid-life.com/2012/06/26/the-s...ns-audio-chips/

but sony phone audio quality also no very good either, if compare 2 good mp3 player
better get a proper mp3 player  laugh.gif
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i got very very old sony USB mp3, i think is the first USB MP3 player before it can do the drop and drag file one, it still need software to sync song doh.gif (before ipod touch era, i get ipod touch 2nd gen after that)
that sounds quality quite nice for me, like the bass and clarity performance tongue.gif

just wonder now days the Sony Phone can on par with this few years ago tech or not.

QUOTE(junsheng @ Jan 9 2013, 02:03 AM)
samsung n iphone is using sony's old sensor
S3/note2 is using walson audio chipset, just average audio quality only

sony walkman use a more powerful audio chipset compare 2 its phones
sony walkman outperform its phone is almost every case
wat is most important is the audio chipset  laugh.gif
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sony sensor or not i not really care, in fact we all know sony produce some sensor for some company product. it doesn't matter

the one matter is how is the sony product performance with their own material lol.

anyway i still hate Sony Ericsson Satio, feel like conned by SE last time lol.

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QUOTE(SonnyCooL @ Jan 9 2013, 09:17 AM)
what u means two stages ? is that different with acro S ? i think that must be some technical reason they found from acro S . . . . today technology, two stage (focus and shot) with water proof is just click of their finger smile.gif
Yes sony make sensor (they make for nikon too), but camera is not purely base on sensor it self, especially mobile phone camera smile.gif
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2 stage shutter, the shutter in arco s not responsive as xperia S sad.gif
but still good if got camera button laugh.gif
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Xperia Z dont have Exmor RS + HDR. Only ZL got. (GSMArena)

But Official website show Z got.

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QUOTE(lotiman2003 @ Jan 9 2013, 12:32 PM)
Xperia Z dont have Exmor RS + HDR. Only ZL got. (GSMArena)

But Official website show Z got.
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confirm got...
read from white paper pls laugh.gif

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Exmor RS™ for mobile – the world’s first image sensor with HDR video for
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Torch-lit tent. Backlit peak. Midday beach. Now, with Xperia™ Z, you can capture ultra-sharp photos &
videos in any condition. Our smartphone camera modules use the same expertise and components as
leading Sony cameras. And thanks to Exmor RS™ for mobile with next generation BSI sensors,

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which phone is coming to Malaysia? I hope the ZL comes over here.
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which phone is coming to Malaysia? I hope the ZL comes over here.
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i think mostly will be xperia z
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QUOTE(junsheng @ Jan 9 2013, 01:12 PM)
i think mostly will be xperia z
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^ this due to the LTE bandwith
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ahh damn ZL is more better imo. A glass back means another screen protector. doh.gif

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QUOTE(soitsuagain @ Jan 9 2013, 01:37 PM)
wait i thought ours is band 7 which is 2600? sorry i'm confused
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xperia Z support band 7
xperia ZL does not

but still need 2 wait 4 white paper of xperia ZL n c

bcauz the white paper of xperia Z is out, got 2 version
1 is only 3G version another is 4g+3g version laugh.gif
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QUOTE(soitsuagain @ Jan 9 2013, 01:37 PM)
ahh damn ZL is more better imo. A glass back means another screen protector.  doh.gif
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If u refer a few page back, i think someone did mention that the phone come with a screen protector to keep the glass from shattering out
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QUOTE(soulseeker6187 @ Jan 8 2013, 10:41 PM)
almost all LCD in Smartphone are TFT. other than that is AMOLED.
SLCD is TFT based.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/TFT_LCD
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sony tft has narrow viewing angle rite compared to slcd3
http://www.phonearena.com/news/Sony-Xperia...parison_id38423


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QUOTE(draex3 @ Jan 9 2013, 02:00 PM)
If u refer a few page back, i think someone did mention that the phone come with a screen protector to keep the glass from shattering out
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shattered proof sheet protect glass from shattering all over the place
but glass will still break but will not shatter

shattered proof sheet can be scratched, but the glass under is scratch resistance

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I've checked the specs for the Z and ZL on gsmarena, but none of them seem to show 3D sweep camera functionality. Does anyone know if they will have it? I hope they do.

It's a fun feature I would like to have again (I have it on my Xperia S)... even if I rarely use it tongue.gif
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QUOTE(aliaviginti @ Jan 9 2013, 02:11 PM)
I've checked the specs for the Z and ZL on gsmarena, but none of them seem to show 3D sweep camera functionality. Does anyone know if they will have it? I hope they do.

It's a fun feature I would like to have again (I have it on my Xperia S)... even if I rarely use it tongue.gif
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QUOTE(junsheng @ Jan 9 2013, 02:08 PM)
shattered proof sheet protect glass from shattering all over the place
but glass will still break but will not shatter

shattered proof sheet can be scratched, but the glass under is scratch resistance
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Does removing the sheet have better colour etc? hmm.gif
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QUOTE(DeepMemory @ Jan 9 2013, 02:37 PM)
Does removing the sheet have better colour etc?  hmm.gif
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QUOTE(junsheng @ Jan 9 2013, 02:17 PM)
gsm arena always show wrong info 1,
yes it got 3D sweep panorama, almost all sony phone got, mid n high end  laugh.gif
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wow, GSM is that bad? So far I've been relying on them for spec details. sweat.gif
Doesn't seem like there's any suitable alternative though, lol.
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anyone got experience order from clove.uk ??
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QUOTE(alfredtwl @ Jan 9 2013, 02:58 PM)
anyone got experience order from clove.uk ??
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what does this relate to the phone?
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what does this relate to the phone?
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QUOTE(junsheng @ Jan 9 2013, 12:04 PM)
2 stage shutter, the shutter in arco s not responsive as xperia S  sad.gif
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QUOTE(SonnyCooL @ Jan 9 2013, 03:26 PM)
no button mean no under water snap la ... hahaahaaha
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QUOTE(hewtwok @ Jan 9 2013, 02:08 PM)
sony tft has narrow viewing angle rite compared to slcd3
http://www.phonearena.com/news/Sony-Xperia...parison_id38423
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ya its correct Sony has narrow viewing angle. but mostly users wont view their phone with indirect angle. it has disadvantage and advantage too.. advantage is privarcy.. ppl come view what u are typing SMS from side.
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QUOTE(junsheng @ Jan 9 2013, 01:39 PM)
xperia Z support band 7
xperia ZL does not

but still need 2 wait 4 white paper of xperia ZL n c

bcauz the white paper of xperia Z is out, got 2 version
1 is only 3G version another is 4g+3g version  laugh.gif
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LTE Band I, Band II, Band IV, Band V and Band XVII

http://developer.sonymobile.com/products/p...ation/xperiazl/
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QUOTE(ChuanHong @ Jan 9 2013, 03:41 PM)
ya its correct Sony has narrow viewing angle. but mostly users wont view their phone with indirect angle. it has disadvantage and advantage too.. advantage is privarcy.. ppl come view what u are typing SMS from side.
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Yup, only crappy and noob reviewer will concern this..
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QUOTE(ChuanHong @ Jan 9 2013, 03:41 PM)
ya its correct Sony has narrow viewing angle. but mostly users wont view their phone with indirect angle. it has disadvantage and advantage too.. advantage is privarcy.. ppl come view what u are typing SMS from side.
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QUOTE(ChuanHong @ Jan 9 2013, 03:41 PM)
ya its correct Sony has narrow viewing angle. but mostly users wont view their phone with indirect angle. it has disadvantage and advantage too.. advantage is privarcy.. ppl come view what u are typing SMS from side.
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actually, who would want to view their phone at indirect angle? for sure view the phone directly right?
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QUOTE(ckchan @ Jan 9 2013, 03:55 PM)
actually, who would want to view their phone at indirect angle? for sure view the phone directly right?
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If you are in a position where you are sharing videos/pictures with a group of people, viewing angles matters as not everyone is able to be at the optimum angle.
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QUOTE(junsheng @ Jan 9 2013, 01:39 PM)
xperia Z support band 7
xperia ZL does not

but still need 2 wait 4 white paper of xperia ZL n c

bcauz the white paper of xperia Z is out, got 2 version
1 is only 3G version another is 4g+3g version  laugh.gif
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why got 4g+3g version LOL
I thought got 4g then sure can use 3g version ?
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So many LTE bands ZZZzzz

Why can't they keep it as cohesive as USB..just imagine if usb 3.0 is like that as well. rclxub.gif

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QUOTE(Areas Elysian @ Jan 9 2013, 04:01 PM)
If you are in a position where you are sharing videos/pictures with a group of people, viewing angles matters as not everyone is able to be at the optimum angle.
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yup... just tot about this disadvantage as well
so poor viewing angle
advantage = privacy
disadvantage = sharing with more people
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QUOTE(ckchan @ Jan 9 2013, 04:10 PM)
yup... just tot about this disadvantage as well
so poor viewing angle
advantage = privacy
disadvantage = sharing with more people
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I highly doubt "privacy" is can really be used as an advantage to be honest. Poor viewing angle does not equates to poor visibility. It generally just equates to poor colour rendering/saturation. People will still be able to see what you're seeing, just not in all it's glory, that's all.

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QUOTE(Areas Elysian @ Jan 9 2013, 04:16 PM)
I highly doubt "privacy" is can really be used as an advantage to be honest. Poor viewing angle does not equates to poor visibility. It generally just equates to poor colour rendering. People will still be able to see what you're seeing, just not in all it's glory, that's all.
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just an example. not 100% privarcy.. yes Sony may not offer the screen view as same as HTC superLCD or samsung mobile SuperAmoled. but its does offer nice contrast of screen view compare to a little yellow green view from Samsung superamoled.
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benchmark test + look at battery life too ... seem like another battery hungry monster
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XZ is coming around April according to Sony Mobile MY facebook page.
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XZ is coming around April according to Sony Mobile MY facebook page.
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SONY my buck up pls
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XZ is coming around April according to Sony Mobile MY facebook page.
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QUOTE(Areas Elysian @ Jan 9 2013, 04:16 PM)
I highly doubt "privacy" is can really be used as an advantage to be honest. Poor viewing angle does not equates to poor visibility. It generally just equates to poor colour rendering/saturation. People will still be able to see what you're seeing, just not in all it's glory, that's all.
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yes of course not 100% privacy too. but i think it's quite difficult for someone else to read your messages viewing at odd angle.
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QUOTE(soitsuagain @ Jan 9 2013, 04:50 PM)
XZ is coming around April according to Sony Mobile MY facebook page.
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so late ??? just two month away from S4 ...
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i duno bout u guys, but i give a dem even if galaxy s4 going to be release nex month, i still goin to get this xperia Z. im a loyal sony fan, and i waited for this kinda of spec for ages from sony. what more to expected from samsung s4? a faster quad core?? more ram?? those only an overkill features.

im thinking even if sony released the phone sooner, it would be great howeva to expect those samsung fan to switch their phone's brand it close to impossible. samsung fan already become more or less like an ifag oredy. i met a lot of people only know samsung phone and iphone. other brands seems like an alien to them.
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QUOTE(uzary @ Jan 9 2013, 05:53 PM)
i duno bout u guys, but i give a dem even if galaxy s4 going to be release nex month, i still goin to get this xperia Z. im a loyal sony fan, and i waited for this kinda of spec for ages from sony. what more to expected from samsung s4? a faster quad core?? more ram?? those only  an overkill features.

im thinking even if sony released the phone sooner, it would be great howeva to expect those samsung fan to switch their phone's brand it close to impossible. samsung fan already become more or less like an ifag oredy. i met a lot of people only know samsung phone and iphone. other brands seems like an alien to them.
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why i said that ? basically sony is nearly 10 month behind other flag( if they launch the phone in April), obviously they can be market leader but for very short term, then new model release again and old model no more support ..... look at acro S, is just few month old, their jb promise on april and sony malaysia already declare obsolete ...

This is smart phone, it does need certain support from manufacturer make it better, the way you hamtam others is just make u no different, blind support without knowing it .....
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QUOTE(SonnyCooL @ Jan 9 2013, 06:01 PM)
why i said that ? basically sony is nearly 10 month behind other flag( if they launch the phone in April), obviously they can be market leader but for very short term, then new model release again and old model no more support ..... look at acro S, is just few month old, their jb promise on april and sony malaysia already declare obsolete ...

This is smart phone, it does need certain support from manufacturer make it better, the way you hamtam others is just make u no different, blind support without knowing it .....
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Sony also seems to spamming many model, just like Samsung did.
And the fact they usually released a device very late to the market and made it obsolete fast.
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QUOTE(SonnyCooL @ Jan 9 2013, 06:01 PM)
why i said that ? basically sony is nearly 10 month behind other flag( if they launch the phone in April), obviously they can be market leader but for very short term, then new model release again and old model no more support ..... look at acro S, is just few month old, their jb promise on april and sony malaysia already declare obsolete ...

This is smart phone, it does need certain support from manufacturer make it better, the way you hamtam others is just make u no different, blind support without knowing it .....
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I think u missed my point, i dun hentam anybody, but im just saying that i dun bother bout wat other manufacture gona release. because from what i c, most people only knows samsung n apple. im too was hoping that Sony Malaysia will release the phone sooner than in april, but if they didnt, i just have to wait for it. if u r talking bout there will be a lot of new phones announced by then, so what, if u like the new phone (at that tym), then go for it. no one force u or anything. regarding support from manufacturer, i knew sony is kinda slow in both delivering the product and also os update, but that is not something new. we can only hope they'll improved in those department. there are custom rom option for u to look into.

being a market leader is always an objective for every company, but first they need to design a proper strategy in order to grab the market. but the way things are in malaysia or the rest of the world, it would be hard as samsung and apple fan are massive. do u think they all are impress by this phone? i doubt so. And bout the new phone, obviously say galaxy S4 will be much better spec from xperia Z, but is it significant? do you how powerful the current smartphone already? it is already too powerful n almost or myb overkill. so for me Z is good enough.

so im not goin to argue any further, in fact not my intention to offend anybody with my statement earlier. sorry if u felt offended. also as for me, altho im hurt by sony mobile for being slow, but i never regret to be a Sony fan. i still hope they once more be one of the major competitor in the market share. thumbup.gif notworthy.gif icon_rolleyes.gif
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QUOTE(soulseeker6187 @ Jan 9 2013, 06:47 PM)
+1
Sony also seems to spamming many model, just like Samsung did.
And the fact they usually released a device very late to the market and made it obsolete fast.
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sony did that to steal the market share rather than let samsung to grab all of it. i agreed with u with the late released into the market, i really hope they will improved in this matter. smile.gif
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QUOTE(DeepMemory @ Jan 9 2013, 02:37 PM)
Does removing the sheet have better colour etc?  hmm.gif
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no different, but screen will bcom very sensitive
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QUOTE(junsheng @ Jan 9 2013, 07:16 PM)
no different, but screen will bcom very sensitive
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i removed the shatter screen protector, no much different in term of display but sensitivity did increase a bit. howeva, i applied a new screen protector 30 min later as i just don feel secure without it. hahaha laugh.gif
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QUOTE(hewtwok @ Jan 9 2013, 02:08 PM)
sony tft has narrow viewing angle rite compared to slcd3
http://www.phonearena.com/news/Sony-Xperia...parison_id38423
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i dono y those review view those phone in 170 degree angle
but no ppl c their phone in those angle lar

sony is using spva LCD 4 their phones
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QUOTE(aliaviginti @ Jan 9 2013, 02:40 PM)
wow, GSM is that bad? So far I've been relying on them for spec details. sweat.gif
Doesn't seem like there's any suitable alternative though, lol.
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u still can trust their spec like 1.5 quad core
or 2 gb ram

but still u will need 2 c which quadcore n which dualcore
if it is Snapdragon S4 krait dualcore, u must need 2 knw it is the fastest processor
even faster thn samsung quadcore n tegra 3

sometime they just write dual core tat all

thn phone features they just randomly write n estimate 1 laugh.gif

but their review is not bad lar
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QUOTE(fariz @ Jan 9 2013, 03:41 PM)
LTE Band I, Band II, Band IV, Band V and Band XVII

http://developer.sonymobile.com/products/p...ation/xperiazl/
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QUOTE(ChuanHong @ Jan 9 2013, 03:41 PM)
ya its correct Sony has narrow viewing angle. but mostly users wont view their phone with indirect angle. it has disadvantage and advantage too.. advantage is privarcy.. ppl come view what u are typing SMS from side.
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sony's spva screen got their own advantages lar
n last time sony also produce slcd,
n they r producing oled, but still they choose spva lcd
they got their reason 1
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QUOTE(XeactorZ @ Jan 9 2013, 04:02 PM)
why got 4g+3g version LOL
I thought got 4g then sure can use 3g version ?
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some 4g modem chip got 3G
some did not laugh.gif
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QUOTE(Areas Elysian @ Jan 9 2013, 04:16 PM)
I highly doubt "privacy" is can really be used as an advantage to be honest. Poor viewing angle does not equates to poor visibility. It generally just equates to poor colour rendering/saturation. People will still be able to see what you're seeing, just not in all it's glory, that's all.
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sony is using their own SPVA LCD panel, SPVA screen is famous in colour accuracy
fast respond rate n ability 2 provide more set of colour n brighter

it is just like IPS screen which is mostly used in 10bit or 12bit screen laugh.gif
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QUOTE(junsheng @ Jan 9 2013, 07:27 PM)
sony's spva screen got their own advantages lar
n last time sony also produce slcd,
n they r producing oled, but still they choose spva lcd
they got their reason 1
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im ok with the screen from SONY. Put clear screen protector on sony devices as my xperia neo and sola. friends always praise that display looks very nice. no problem with it. and i dont like samsung coz the display seems a little bit yellowgreen.. i dont need a multiview angle of screen, coz mostly im used my phone for sms,calling,facebook,dictionary and im always look on the screen directly. it's sounds stupid if people try to look their own phone from side,bottom or top.

sony still in my high priority list yet.
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QUOTE(SonnyCooL @ Jan 9 2013, 06:01 PM)
why i said that ? basically sony is nearly 10 month behind other flag( if they launch the phone in April), obviously they can be market leader but for very short term, then new model release again and old model no more support ..... look at acro S, is just few month old, their jb promise on april and sony malaysia already declare obsolete ...

This is smart phone, it does need certain support from manufacturer make it better, the way you hamtam others is just make u no different, blind support without knowing it .....
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misleading ler
sony still support their phone, even the low end 1
u still c those phone still get security update, n software update 2 ICS

they r just slow with jellybean, it is not easy 2 implement stuff in2 a new OS
in short time, new 3.4 kernal, bravia engin, clear audio+ ... laugh.gif
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QUOTE(soulseeker6187 @ Jan 9 2013, 06:47 PM)
+1
Sony also seems to spamming many model, just like Samsung did.
And the fact they usually released a device very late to the market and made it obsolete fast.
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nope they still very good n fast
http://www.gsmarena.com/sony_xperia_tx_t_a...o-news-4722.php
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QUOTE(junsheng @ Jan 9 2013, 07:19 PM)
i dono y those review view those phone in 170 degree angle
but no ppl c their phone in those angle lar

sony is using spva LCD 4 their phones
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+1
if all people want to see pic or vid at the phone, just mirror with TV lor...
haha
i dont know why angle view also need to complaint...haiyaaa
the most important is how im gonna fully utilize my phone...
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QUOTE(junsheng @ Jan 9 2013, 07:44 PM)
Bro, u seem to know a lot about the phone. Will you bring in the phone to sell? haha
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QUOTE(Ataraxis @ Jan 9 2013, 07:55 PM)
Bro, u seem to know a lot about the phone. Will you bring in the phone to sell? haha
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bcauz my bratha's company is dev apps 4 phones

so they got import huge amount of different phones,
n i get the chances 2 play with them

now i'm using 3 main phone nokia lumia, sony xperia n iphone 4s laugh.gif
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QUOTE(junsheng @ Jan 9 2013, 07:57 PM)
nope, i just play alot with phones
bcauz my bratha's company is dev apps 4 phones

so they got import huge amount of different phones,
n i get the chances 2 play with them

now i'm using 3 main phone nokia lumia, sony xperia n iphone 4s  laugh.gif
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which xperia you currently play with now bro?
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QUOTE(uzary @ Jan 9 2013, 08:12 PM)
which xperia you currently play with now bro?
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xperia v, but design wise i like xperia s laugh.gif
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QUOTE(junsheng @ Jan 9 2013, 07:24 PM)
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if look closely bro, there is a small star mark on the the band vii which say * This service is not available in all markets.
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but it is ok, coz i already decided Z as my nex phone, and also Z is confirmed available in our country.
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how abt google nexus 4 comparing with this phone?
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QUOTE(junsheng @ Jan 9 2013, 07:33 PM)
sony is using their own SPVA LCD panel, SPVA screen is famous in colour accuracy
fast respond rate n ability 2 provide more set of colour n brighter

it is just like IPS screen which is mostly used in 10bit or 12bit screen  laugh.gif
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but there's one thing about sony's screen. the display appears to be a little washout. in some of the early hands-on report of XZ, some said the display did look like washout. i hope it's not in the same case as the XT...
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QUOTE(ckchan @ Jan 9 2013, 08:34 PM)
but there's one thing about sony's screen. the display appears to be a little washout. in some of the early hands-on report of XZ, some said the display did look like washout. i hope it's not in the same case as the XT...
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bcauz they compare it 2 amoled laugh.gif
tis 1 need 2 justify by urself 1, once released, go sony store n test lor laugh.gif

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QUOTE(junsheng @ Jan 9 2013, 08:45 PM)
bcauz they compare it 2 amoled  laugh.gif
tis 1 need 2 justify by urself 1, once released, go sony store n test lor  laugh.gif
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yeah, of course always need to base on own hands on experiance la.

but i am saying this cos i am usiang acro S. some games i played really looks very obvious that the display is just too "white" or washout as compared to my previous phone HTC Desire S or my friend's S3. that's y i have to install a screen filter apps on my acro s...
Since you have alot of test phone, maybe you can try installing the game ice age village and see for yourself. this is the game that is most obvious...
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QUOTE(Ataraxis @ Jan 9 2013, 08:30 PM)
how abt google nexus 4 comparing with this phone?
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nexus 4xperia z
4.7" screen5 screen
720 resolution1080 resolution
318 ppi443 ppi
8 megapixel 13 megapixel
1.3 megapixel2.1 megapixel
no official 4G got 4G
no hdmihdmi over mhl
no sd card slot got sd card slot
2100 mAh2330 mAh

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QUOTE(ckchan @ Jan 9 2013, 08:52 PM)
yeah, of course always need to base on own hands on experiance la.

but i am saying this cos i am usiang acro S. some games i played really looks very obvious that the display is just too "white" or washout as compared to my previous phone HTC Desire S or my friend's S3. that's y i have to install a screen filter apps on my acro s...
Since you have alot of test phone, maybe you can try installing the game ice age village and see for yourself. this is the game that is most obvious...
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if u say white, it is bcauz the LCD screen is brighter

but washout, i think maybe other adjust their screen off gamut rate
making it look more vivid but not natural read here http://www.phonearena.com/news/Smartphone-...-vs-LCD_id13824

is over vivid colour screen always good c here thn u knw
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QUOTE(junsheng @ Jan 9 2013, 07:57 PM)
nope, i just play alot with phones
bcauz my bratha's company is dev apps 4 phones

so they got import huge amount of different phones,
n i get the chances 2 play with them

now i'm using 3 main phone nokia lumia, sony xperia n iphone 4s  laugh.gif
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can list down what is the 3 unique selling point between this 3 phones? brows.gif
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can list down what is the 3 unique selling point between this 3 phones? brows.gif
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QUOTE(junsheng @ Jan 9 2013, 08:58 PM)
|nexus 4|xperia z|
4.7" screen5 screen
720 resolution1080 resolution
318 ppi443 ppi
8 megapixel 13 megapixel
1.3 megapixel2.1 megapixel
no official 4G got 4G
no hdmihdmi over mhl
no sd card slot got sd card slot
2100 mAh2330 mAh
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XZ have better camera image taken compare to the so so nexus 4 camera too
decided to wait for XZ and not buy nexus 4
now using noob nokia x-01
have to wait 4month w/o smartphone rclxub.gif rclxub.gif
wish my galaxy note spoit few month more cry.gif
and stupid samsung warranty ..... 1month expired warranty also dun wan fix for free >_<
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I see some people complaining the display on SONY,so far I use acro s has the best display,even better than Samsung one,if you guys think I joking,then go own yourself,don't try those demo unit
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I don't really like the feel on Samsung S Advance screen.
Abit feel too dry,

But on Xperia P,Go and Acro S that i have reviewed and some owned
the screen feels abit more smooth(?) maybe personal preference but for sure i will choose sony over samsung anytime for mid range.

But now with Xperia Z,ZL,V,TX release in the market

Note 2 is not that much of attraction(Almost bought it as well)
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QUOTE(Agito666 @ Jan 9 2013, 09:22 PM)
can list down what is the 3 unique selling point between this 3 phones? brows.gif
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nokia lumia = camera & maps, wat i like abt tis phone is almost every app u can set it automatic 2 inform u whn there r new things come up, no need 2 switch on phone n go in2 each app n check

sony xperia = camera & fast charging 30min charge up to 80%

iphone 4s = last long hours if u only use 2 listen 2 song, many many app, almost any kind of apps also got

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QUOTE(junsheng @ Jan 9 2013, 09:32 PM)
nokia lumia = camera & maps, wat i like abt tis phone is almost every app u can set it automatic 2 inform u whn there r new things come up, no need 2 switch on phone n go in2 each app n check

sony xperia = camera & fast charging 30min charge up to 80%

iphone 4s = last long hours if u only use 2 listen 2 song, many many app, almost any kind of apps also got
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well i get attraction from the sony is music system duno it is good or not. at least need better than ipod/ iphone and nokia lol.

apps err, since it is andriod so it is not problem i guess. like waze GPS, whatsapps sure support right?

processor hardware compatible with software? this one i really worry since the SE satio incident.

quality built compare iwth nokia? good or not lol.

camera wise i still need read more review, cant trust exmor R sensor yet.

web browser?

**but then i come here kepoh only, lol. because i still using my good 'O' nokia n8 tongue.gif
**still saving upgrade my 6 years DSLR haha ^^; , my n8 can beat my DSLR so need upgrade DSLR first. phone can wait for plan slowly slowy pay lol


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QUOTE(junsheng @ Jan 9 2013, 08:58 PM)
|nexus 4|xperia z|
4.7" screen5 screen
720 resolution1080 resolution
318 ppi443 ppi
8 megapixel 13 megapixel
1.3 megapixel2.1 megapixel
no official 4G got 4G
no hdmihdmi over mhl
no sd card slot got sd card slot
2100 mAh2330 mAh
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nexus 4 is outdated biggrin.gif

it has the "wow" factor when optimus G first announced, first phone to use qualcomm s4 chip

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well i get attraction from the sony is music system duno it is good or not. at least need better than ipod/ iphone and nokia lol.

apps err, since it is andriod so it is not problem i guess. like waze, whatsapps sure support right?

processor hardware compatible with software? this one i really worry since the SE satio incident.

quality built compare iwth nokia? good or not lol.

camera wise i still need read more review, cant trust exmor R sensor yet.
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waze n whatapps is supported
yup compatible
quality is ok

now is exmor RS ady, new sensor
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QUOTE(Agito666 @ Jan 9 2013, 09:39 PM)
well i get attraction from the sony is music system duno it is good or not. at least need better than ipod/ iphone and nokia lol.

apps err, since it is andriod so it is not problem i guess. like waze GPS, whatsapps sure support right?

processor hardware compatible with software? this one i really worry since the SE satio incident.

quality built compare iwth nokia? good or not lol.

camera wise i still need read more review, cant trust exmor R sensor yet.

web browser?

**but then i come here kepoh only, lol. because i still using my good 'O' nokia n8 tongue.gif
**still saving upgrade my 6 years DSLR haha ^^; , my n8 can beat my DSLR so need upgrade DSLR first. phone can wait for plan slowly slowy pay lol
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wat happen to your satio? u seems to hate it so muc hmm.gif
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symbian lor a bit slow

but still the best OS thumbup.gif
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QUOTE(junsheng @ Jan 9 2013, 09:42 PM)
waze n whatapps is supported
yup compatible
quality is ok

now is exmor RS ady, new sensor
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i hope this exmor rs will give far better pic quality than s3, my wife so proud of her s3 pic .
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What Audio DAC does it use.. Samsung latest all use wolfson.. damn..
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i hope this exmor rs will give far better pic quality than s3, my wife so proud of her s3 pic .
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s3 is using sony sensor... camera powered by sony
iphone also using sony sensor... camera magic by sony

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read my previous post got link sumore
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QUOTE(junsheng @ Jan 9 2013, 09:50 PM)
s3 is using sony sensor... camera powered by sony
iphone also using sony sensor... camera magic by sony

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read my previous post got link sumore
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Nikon DSLR also uses Sony' Sensor what lol
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What Audio DAC does it use.. Samsung latest all use wolfson.. damn..
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QUOTE(junsheng @ Jan 9 2013, 09:05 PM)
if u say white, it is bcauz the LCD screen is brighter

but washout, i think maybe other adjust their screen off gamut rate
making it look more vivid but not natural read here http://www.phonearena.com/news/Smartphone-...-vs-LCD_id13824

is over vivid colour screen always good c here thn u knw
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well, i am not too sure why also. my previous HTC Desire s also using SLCD screen, not AMOLED. Do not have such display problem playing those games at all.

i adjusted the default brightness in my acro s also. no use. so no choice have to download the screen filter apps then only the display are ok.
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Regardless of how powerful or beautiful a Sony phone is, it will still be the last to receive updates. Correct?
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Xperia Z!! drool.gif i'm sure this year nexus will be made by sony. If sony make nexus, that's definitely going to be my next phone, dust proof, water proof, nice camera sensor, fast update, purrrrfeeccct! drool.gif
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QUOTE(andrewtho @ Jan 9 2013, 10:18 PM)
Regardless of how powerful or beautiful a Sony phone is, it will still be the last to receive updates. Correct?
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Xperia T receive update much earlier than its past flagship.
4 month after announced.
So the new NXT product will receive update much early than previous Ericsson leftover.
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wat happen to your satio? u seems to hate it so muc hmm.gif
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that is my first smart phone also shortest smart phone usage in my life, 7 months. while nokia n8 serve me for 2 years till now.

Satio sucks? ask some satio owner like nicholasbeh sonic_cd

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QUOTE(Neo|ofGeo @ Jan 9 2013, 10:20 PM)
Xperia T receive update much earlier than its past flagship.
4 month after announced.
So the new NXT product will receive update much early than previous Ericsson leftover.
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Hmm Xperia X was surprisingly slow when compared to major brands like HTC or Samsung. Updates as in from Google icon_rolleyes.gif
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QUOTE(andrewtho @ Jan 9 2013, 10:28 PM)
Hmm Xperia X was surprisingly slow when compared to major brands like HTC or Samsung. Updates as in from Google  icon_rolleyes.gif
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new kernal... most important laugh.gif
not new OS update
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QUOTE(andrewtho @ Jan 9 2013, 10:28 PM)
Hmm Xperia X was surprisingly slow when compared to major brands like HTC or Samsung. Updates as in from Google  icon_rolleyes.gif
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Samsung?
come on
they only care about their top end product.

S Advance only now got their Jellybean.


Sony at least give fair share of ICS update to their 2012 devices

only Xperia U and Sola is not going to get Jellybean this year.

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QUOTE(junsheng @ Jan 9 2013, 07:28 PM)
no lar 4g is not backward compatible
some 4g modem chip got 3G
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lol got this kind of things
i thought got 4g then sure can use 3g whistling.gif
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lol got this kind of things
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they need 2 add an external 3g modem chip
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What am I going to do with my Xperia S??? cry.gif

And somemore this one got reflective surface like iPhone, Xperia S got no reflective surface.. sad.gif
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QUOTE(Eugene91 @ Jan 9 2013, 10:16 PM)
Quote Sony Mobile MY:
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Xperia ZL coming here too, omg, this is madness rclxm9.gif rclxm9.gif thumbup.gif
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QUOTE(TSOM @ Jan 9 2013, 10:50 PM)
What am I going to do with my Xperia S??? cry.gif

And somemore this one got reflective surface like iPhone, Xperia S got no reflective surface.. sad.gif
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tym to upgrade lor laugh.gif
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QUOTE(zuhaili87 @ Jan 9 2013, 10:18 PM)
Xperia Z!!  drool.gif  i'm sure this year nexus will be made by sony. If sony make nexus, that's definitely going to be my next phone, dust proof, water proof, nice camera sensor, fast update, purrrrfeeccct!  drool.gif
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need to wait till the end of the year or end of q3 for xperia nexus if they r really goin to make it. howeva the features u mention above is kinda extreme for nexus line as nexus a mean to be affordable n quite cheap, well at least in USA.
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QUOTE(TSOM @ Jan 9 2013, 10:50 PM)
What am I going to do with my Xperia S??? cry.gif

And somemore this one got reflective surface like iPhone, Xperia S got no reflective surface.. sad.gif
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got ar, the front screen is very reflective whn it is on laugh.gif
wait 4 next year CES lar, i think maybe will get new Crystal LED tat sony make laugh.gif
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QUOTE(junsheng @ Jan 9 2013, 10:55 PM)
got ar, the front screen is very reflective whn it is on  laugh.gif
wait 4 next year CES lar, i think maybe will get new Crystal LED tat sony make  laugh.gif
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next year CES will be much nicer for sure wub.gif

Sony design is getting better and better. I can't wait until April so I will just get the TX!
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QUOTE(soitsuagain @ Jan 9 2013, 10:57 PM)
next year CES will be much nicer for sure  wub.gif

Sony design is getting better and better. I can't wait until April so I will just get the TX!
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i'm looking 4ward 4 sony crystal led tat sony make
last time saw it in berlin, wow laugh.gif
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QUOTE(Neo|ofGeo @ Jan 9 2013, 10:36 PM)
Samsung?
come on
they only care about their top end product.

S Advance only now got their Jellybean.
Sony at least give fair share of ICS update to their 2012 devices

only Xperia U and Sola is not going to get Jellybean this year.
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Flagship models ma. Must focus on those 'best' sellers only brows.gif


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QUOTE(junsheng @ Jan 9 2013, 07:42 PM)
misleading ler
sony still support their phone, even the low end 1
u still c those phone still get security update, n software update 2 ICS

they r just slow with jellybean, it is not easy 2 implement stuff in2 a new OS
in short time, new 3.4 kernal, bravia engin, clear audio+ ...  laugh.gif
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yah they have internal update on security bug (that is bug fixing), update to ICS (yes compare with other ?)

Is not easy ? yes agree is not easy for a small company like miui, aokp, cm and others but they make it before giant company like samsung and sony .... basically those custom rom company size is not even equal 10% of samsung or Sony software development team but they able to do it cause of their passion and aim ....

Sony, samsung and other giant company main priority is their in house widget/addon/so on, then OS ....
custom is OS then add on. that two different way of building, like your brother company, they mod app to suit OS, not mod OS to suit app ....
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QUOTE(SonnyCooL @ Jan 9 2013, 11:16 PM)
yah they have internal update on security bug (that is bug fixing), update to ICS (yes compare with other ?)

Is not easy ? yes agree is not easy for a small company like miui, aokp, cm and others but they make it before giant company like samsung and sony .... basically those custom rom company size is not even equal 10% of samsung or Sony software development team but they able to do it cause of their passion and aim ....

Sony, samsung and other giant company main priority is their in house widget/addon/so on, then OS ....
custom is OS then add on. that two different way of building, like your brother company, they mod app to suit OS, not mod OS to suit app ....
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easy 2 say mod app to suit OS but mod OS to suit app
but hard 2 do

u say they r fast
thn try 2 find a official cm release, nope they just have a stable usable 1
try to find a stable official liquidsmooth release

they r still doing their dev n it is not easy


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QUOTE(junsheng @ Jan 9 2013, 11:06 PM)
i'm looking 4ward 4 sony crystal led tat sony make
last time saw it in berlin, wow  laugh.gif
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what kind of crystal display eh? mind to share, i seem to miss that one.
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nevermind bro, i found a interesting article rgarding the crystal led. it seems sony hav to choose between oled n cled tech.

http://www.techradar.com/news/television/t...tal-led-1123759
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what kind of crystal display eh? mind to share, i seem to miss that one.
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btw TS, u r kinda confident saying the price of Z would most likely bout 1899. can we count on that. actuaclly at 2k i think i still buy as i think it worth it, just hope it wont be price at a stupid crazy price like rm2500 and above.

just 1 thing i concern is that, i never experience being an early adopter, thus i afraid the first batch will hav problems. remember xperia s, most early adopters faces the yellow tinted on their screen. hav sony solve that issue btw? wats ur opinion in this?
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Today just receive email from Sony Mobile introducing Xperia Z. So damn hot. It make me feel to delay my plan to buy my 1st smartphone. Originally, I plan to buy Xperia Ion. If the price above than 2k..I cannot afford it.
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QUOTE(uzary @ Jan 10 2013, 12:24 AM)
btw TS, u r kinda confident saying the price of Z would most likely bout 1899. can we count on that. actuaclly at 2k i think i still buy as i think it worth it, just hope it wont be price at a stupid crazy price like rm2500 and above.

just 1 thing i concern is that, i never experience being an early adopter, thus i afraid the first batch will hav problems. remember xperia s, most early adopters faces the yellow tinted on their screen. hav sony solve that issue btw? wats ur opinion in this?
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QUOTE(capoi @ Jan 10 2013, 12:30 AM)
Today just receive email from Sony Mobile introducing Xperia Z. So damn hot. It make me feel to delay my plan to buy my 1st smartphone. Originally, I plan to buy Xperia Ion. If the price above than 2k..I cannot afford it.
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wait samsung galaxy s4 release, thn xperia z will drop price
n also tat time u won't be buying 1st batch

n if 1st batch got problems, u will knw, n also the problem will be solved by sony
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QUOTE(uzary @ Jan 10 2013, 12:24 AM)
btw TS, u r kinda confident saying the price of Z would most likely bout 1899. can we count on that. actuaclly at 2k i think i still buy as i think it worth it, just hope it wont be price at a stupid crazy price like rm2500 and above.

just 1 thing i concern is that, i never experience being an early adopter, thus i afraid the first batch will hav problems. remember xperia s, most early adopters faces the yellow tinted on their screen. hav sony solve that issue btw? wats ur opinion in this?
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2.5k sure no people will buy
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Xperia Z front camera is 2.2 megapixel and ZL is 2 megapixel.
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nexus 4 is outdated biggrin.gif

it has the "wow" factor when optimus G first announced, first phone to use qualcomm s4 chip
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but it leads every android smartphones out there in software side.

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http://www.xperiablog.net/2013/01/08/xperi...es-in-february/

Not so good news guys, it seems the price is really is more than mere 2k. Most likely between 2000-2.5k or more. sad.gif
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QUOTE(uzary @ Jan 10 2013, 12:24 AM)
btw TS, u r kinda confident saying the price of Z would most likely bout 1899. can we count on that. actuaclly at 2k i think i still buy as i think it worth it, just hope it wont be price at a stupid crazy price like rm2500 and above.

just 1 thing i concern is that, i never experience being an early adopter, thus i afraid the first batch will hav problems. remember xperia s, most early adopters faces the yellow tinted on their screen. hav sony solve that issue btw? wats ur opinion in this?
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Xperia S was selling at 1899. Now that Sony has finally catch up in specs it should be within the 2 - 2.2k.
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QUOTE(uzary @ Jan 10 2013, 03:56 AM)
http://www.xperiablog.net/2013/01/08/xperi...es-in-february/

Not so good news guys, it seems the price is really is more than mere 2k. Most likely between 2000-2.5k or more. sad.gif
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Are u buying at launch??
Its almost the same price as iphone 5 with better specs so its not bad
I doubt sony price drop very fast bcause the spec isnt outdated like last time
But htc one x drops price very fast so it might be the same and s3 isnt as expensive as i thought after few months
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QUOTE(soitsuagain @ Jan 10 2013, 08:18 AM)
Xperia S was selling at 1899. Now that Sony has finally catch up in specs it should be within the 2 - 2.2k.
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but it is kinda weird if we look this way, Xperia TX and V are price at RM1599. the most logical figure for Z i assume shud be at RM1899 the lowest and the highest is RM2199 highest. i doubt they will price it above iphone price. shakehead.gif
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QUOTE(irenic @ Jan 10 2013, 03:14 AM)
nexus series has never ever been the most advance smartphone in terms of hardware..

but it leads every android smartphones out there in software side.
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agreed! what the use of a phone when it has the superior hardware but cant even be running on JB. this i LOLed hard at SONY. Samsung and HTC realised this and hence they are trying their very hard to update the older gen phone
cant be said of SONY. even though they have the closest working relation with JBQ, but their software look dated. nothing new to the game except for better spec.
the reason im attracthed to Z is that i can foresee that this will prob a dev friendly phone as more dev is abandoning exynos based phone project

QUOTE(uzary @ Jan 10 2013, 03:56 AM)
http://www.xperiablog.net/2013/01/08/xperi...es-in-february/

Not so good news guys, it seems the price is really is more than mere 2k. Most likely between 2000-2.5k or more. sad.gif
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if it is more expensive than note 2....SONY is digging their own grave. rclxub.gif rclxub.gif

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Note 2 rrp at launched was rm2299. I always said b4 that pricing strategy is very crucial especially for sony. I blieve if sony able to price their products at a right price, they able to captured the market share more that they currently acquired. N if sony xperia z able to price itself under 2k, i blieve it would b a massive hit. If morethan 2k then sweat.gif . Sony isnt Samsung or Apple where their customer n fañ already obsessed with the company.
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QUOTE(uzary @ Jan 10 2013, 10:47 AM)
Note 2 rrp at launched was rm2299. I always said b4 that pricing strategy is very crucial especially for sony. I blieve if sony able to price their products at a right price, they able to captured the market share more that they currently acquired. N if sony xperia z able to price itself under 2k, i blieve it would b a massive hit. If morethan 2k then sweat.gif . Sony isnt Samsung or Apple where their customer n fañ already obsessed with the company.
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at no less than 1.8k, it may not be even a sure hit. samsung user will wait for s4, htc fan will always go back to HTC, ifags dun need to mention. at that premium price, they would rather go for the more popular brand- at least for now
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I'd say if Sony just price their products similar to Samsung, they'd be back in business.
There's just no way you can compare Sony and Samsung in terms of built quality, aesthetics and class.
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QUOTE(capoi @ Jan 10 2013, 12:30 AM)
Today just receive email from Sony Mobile introducing Xperia Z. So damn hot. It make me feel to delay my plan to buy my 1st smartphone. Originally, I plan to buy Xperia Ion. If the price above than 2k..I cannot afford it.
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I also received the email from Sony. biggrin.gif


QUOTE(XeactorZ @ Jan 10 2013, 01:05 AM)
2.5k sure no people will buy
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I hope it was not and don't think so.

QUOTE(uzary @ Jan 10 2013, 03:56 AM)
http://www.xperiablog.net/2013/01/08/xperi...es-in-february/

Not so good news guys, it seems the price is really is more than mere 2k. Most likely between 2000-2.5k or more. sad.gif
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It is high possible more than 2k, as this was price of LTE phone for the moment.

Current LTE phone at Singapore market pricelist:
- Samsung Note II LTE - SGD $880.00 = RM 2,194.00
- Samsung Galaxy S III LTE - SGD $785.00 = RM 1,957.00
- Apple iPhone 5 LTE - SGD $900.00 = RM 2,243.00
- Asus PadFone 2 LTE (only phone part) - SGD $990.00 = RM 2,468.00


QUOTE(soitsuagain @ Jan 10 2013, 08:18 AM)
Xperia S was selling at 1899. Now that Sony has finally catch up in specs it should be within the 2 - 2.2k.
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Agree!


QUOTE(uzary @ Jan 10 2013, 09:47 AM)
but it is kinda weird if we look this way, Xperia TX and V are price at RM1599. the most logical figure for Z i assume shud be at RM1899 the lowest and the highest is RM2199 highest. i doubt they will price it above iphone price. shakehead.gif
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I highly doubt it will be RM 1,899 base on current LTE phone price.

I assume it will be possible price range in between RM 2,199 to RM 2,299.

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QUOTE(sebastianX11 @ Jan 10 2013, 10:09 AM)
agreed! what the use of a phone when it has the superior hardware but cant even be running on JB. this i LOLed hard at SONY. Samsung and HTC realised this and hence they are trying their very hard to update the older gen phone
cant be said of SONY. even though they have the closest working relation with JBQ, but their software look dated. nothing new to the game except for better spec.
the reason im attracthed to Z is that i can foresee that this will prob a dev friendly phone as more dev is abandoning exynos based phone project
if it is more expensive than note 2....SONY is digging their own grave. rclxub.gif  rclxub.gif
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i guess sony still catching up on hardware side since last year they still launch dual core phone whereas every1 on quad core tongue.gif
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QUOTE(uzary @ Jan 10 2013, 03:56 AM)
http://www.xperiablog.net/2013/01/08/xperi...es-in-february/

Not so good news guys, it seems the price is really is more than mere 2k. Most likely between 2000-2.5k or more. sad.gif
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europe got vts tax
like last time samsung s3 europe convert 2 RM is 2399
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QUOTE(soitsuagain @ Jan 10 2013, 08:18 AM)
Xperia S was selling at 1899. Now that Sony has finally catch up in specs it should be within the 2 - 2.2k.
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sony catch up long ago
xperia S is faster thn S2
Xperia T/TX/V is faster thn S3
but sony still sell at reasonable price, n come with many accessories also

http://www.gsmarena.com/sony_xperia_tx_t_a...o-news-4722.php
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Wonder why sony havent sent any email to me sad.gif
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QUOTE(shark7 @ Jan 10 2013, 09:06 AM)
Are u buying at launch??
Its almost the same price as iphone 5 with better specs so its not bad
I doubt sony price drop very fast bcause the spec isnt outdated like last time
But htc one x drops price very fast so it might be the same and s3 isnt as expensive as i thought after few months
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europe got vts tax
their spec is not outdated xperia S faster thn S2
xperia T/TX/V is faster thn S3 http://www.gsmarena.com/sony_xperia_tx_t_a...o-news-4722.php
HTC one X is also faster thn S3 http://www.gsmarena.com/jelly_bean_update_...e-news-5010.php

their price drop so much bcauz 2 many ppl think samsung is best n buy samsung
rule of demand & supple laugh.gif
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i was hopping motorola to be the first company to announce premium rugged fon like dis as what they did before with defy, somehow i was wrong...i dun really mind bout the software, as long as the fon can last longer...
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Motorola has become a very silent compony since google bought them. Really weird.


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QUOTE(sebastianX11 @ Jan 10 2013, 10:09 AM)
agreed! what the use of a phone when it has the superior hardware but cant even be running on JB. this i LOLed hard at SONY. Samsung and HTC realised this and hence they are trying their very hard to update the older gen phone
cant be said of SONY. even though they have the closest working relation with JBQ, but their software look dated. nothing new to the game except for better spec.
the reason im attracthed to Z is that i can foresee that this will prob a dev friendly phone as more dev is abandoning exynos based phone project
if it is more expensive than note 2....SONY is digging their own grave. rclxub.gif  rclxub.gif
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misleading again lar
europe got vts tax lar, last time S3 cost RM 2399 in europe
tis phone is released with jellybean doh.gif ,
as u knw sony is also updating their older generation phone 2 jellybean
some phone ady get jellybean like xperia T

sony update all their high to mid end phone to ICS except xperia play
samsung? they only update their high end phone, S1 no OS upgrade at all,
S2 1 year+ ady now just with pr saying jellybean is coming soon
samsung advance is just the same

sony phones is the most dev friendly bcauz they release all their driver 2 the comunity
unlike samsung which u think they are very good even XDA dev hate samsung
http://www.xda-developers.com/xda-tv-2/sam...a-developer-tv/

u have been mislead by samsung's ads too much laugh.gif

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QUOTE(uzary @ Jan 10 2013, 01:11 PM)
Motorola has become a very silent compony since google bought them. Really weird.
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they just seldom do marketing only
their new razr hd phone battery wise beat all kind of android phones laugh.gif

motorola just like sony, nokia, very bad at marketing
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QUOTE(hewtwok @ Jan 10 2013, 12:42 PM)
i guess sony still catching up on hardware side since last year they still launch dual core phone whereas every1 on quad core tongue.gif
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sony's dual core phones faster quad core lar laugh.gif
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willing to sell my padfone 2 in favor of Z!!!!!!!!
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QUOTE(nate_nightroad @ Jan 10 2013, 01:25 PM)
willing to sell my padfone 2 in favor of Z!!!!!!!!
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iinm ur padphone 2 shared a similar spec as xperia Z. hmm.gif also u got urself a tablet dock station which can convert ur phone to tablet ayte. padphone is a dream phone for me but too bad i love sony more. if padphone is made by sony, i bought a long tym ago. tongue.gif
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QUOTE(uzary @ Jan 10 2013, 01:30 PM)
iinm ur padphone 2 shared a similar spec as xperia Z. hmm.gif  also u got urself a tablet dock station which can convert ur phone to tablet ayte. padphone is a dream phone for me but too bad i love sony more. if padphone is made by sony, i bought a long tym ago. tongue.gif
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too bad, padphone got no water proof
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QUOTE(hewtwok @ Jan 10 2013, 12:42 PM)
i guess sony still catching up on hardware side since last year they still launch dual core phone whereas every1 on quad core tongue.gif
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that is on purpose fyi. Sony stated clearly that they only goin to released a quad core phone in 2013. and starting this year, no matter what proc came out, it still a quad core at most, and to the casual customers, they only know a quad core proc, dual core proc in general n dun care in detail. i doubt they even care on how fast or powerful their phone can be, for them a 1.5ghz s4 pro is the same as 1.5ghz tegra 3. they only c the 1.5ghz clock speed.
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QUOTE(ogiveyakuza @ Jan 10 2013, 01:32 PM)
too bad, padphone got no water proof
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actually so do Xperia Z, it is not water proof, it is water resistance. tongue.gif

btw that is a wonderful features howeva not a deal breaker tho. padphone stil quite a beauty and a monster. the CEO is quite ambitious. and also they are taiwan. oredy tired of all the ''K" stuff dominating the world. Samsung and Lg with their TV and Phones, Kia n Hyundai with their cars, and ofcoz the K pop n K drama. tongue.gif
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QUOTE(uzary @ Jan 10 2013, 01:30 PM)
iinm ur padphone 2 shared a similar spec as xperia Z. hmm.gif  also u got urself a tablet dock station which can convert ur phone to tablet ayte. padphone is a dream phone for me but too bad i love sony more. if padphone is made by sony, i bought a long tym ago. tongue.gif
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asus has got cool concept i will give u that...but not practical..

carrying around 2 devices is not practical...

pretty much like the tf101 transfomer,carrying around a keyboard dock is a pain and HEAVY!
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QUOTE(uzary @ Jan 10 2013, 01:11 PM)
Motorola has become a very silent compony since google bought them. Really weird.
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Yalo, it seems Google buy it for vanish the brand.. haha!

Probably something wow! will coming soon or it really plan for vanishing the brand...

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purely based on phone spec from white paper or you test on yourself? lol

what i want to know is compatible smooth smooth phone haha....spec high but laggy like hell also no use because software not compatible like last time Satio. Spec nicer than iphone 3Gs that time, can consider very good but when nokia n8 release, spec lower than satio but a lot smoother... both use symbian. sweat.gif

that's why i come here wait and spec this model lol. tongue.gif
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From here - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IP_Code

Now I know the exact IP57 means.

5 - Dust protected
- Ingress of dust is not entirely prevented, but it must not enter in sufficient quantity to interfere with the satisfactory operation of the equipment; complete protection against contact.

7 - Immersion up to 1 m
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Immersion at depth of at least 1 m measured at bottom of device, and at least 15 cm measured at top of device

** The strongest protection of dusk and water will be IP68, and this phone already in step IP57! Cool!

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QUOTE(junsheng @ Jan 10 2013, 01:03 PM)
europe got vts tax
their spec is not outdated xperia S faster thn S2
xperia T/TX/V is faster thn S3 http://www.gsmarena.com/sony_xperia_tx_t_a...o-news-4722.php
HTC one X is also faster thn S3 http://www.gsmarena.com/jelly_bean_update_...e-news-5010.php

their price drop so much bcauz 2 many ppl think samsung is best n buy samsung
rule of demand & supple  laugh.gif
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so the rules same goes to SONY
2 mths it become obsolete...lol icon_rolleyes.gif nod.gif

the spec is not outdated when compared. but when sony launch it phone with dual core, everyone is going with quad ady, irregardless which performs better thumbup.gif
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QUOTE(junsheng @ Jan 10 2013, 01:11 PM)
misleading again lar
europe got vts tax lar, last time S3 cost RM 2399 in europe
tis phone is released with jellybean  doh.gif ,
as u knw sony is also updating their older generation phone 2 jellybean
some phone ady get jellybean like xperia T

sony update all their high to mid end phone to ICS except xperia play
samsung? they only update their high end phone, S1 no OS upgrade at all,
S2 1 year+ ady now just with pr saying jellybean is coming soon
samsung advance is just the same

sony phones is the most dev friendly bcauz they release all their driver 2 the comunity
unlike samsung which u think they are very good even XDA dev hate samsung
http://www.xda-developers.com/xda-tv-2/sam...a-developer-tv/

u have been mislead by samsung's ads too much laugh.gif
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sorry....i dun buy into fanboyism like you do as in how you defended everyphone out there against samsung

i have never once thought sammy phone is every good for dev....pls, they dont release there exynos source to anyone, same goes to tegra. i think you are badly mininfornmed and twisting a lot of facts about how superior sony is.

well whatever, the fact is samsung kicking SONY arse left right centre no matter how hard they market it. marketing is what make the stuff cool. just like iPhone. its about the status, for SONY to catch up
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QUOTE(junsheng @ Jan 10 2013, 01:03 PM)
europe got vts tax
their spec is not outdated xperia S faster thn S2
xperia T/TX/V is faster thn S3 http://www.gsmarena.com/sony_xperia_tx_t_a...o-news-4722.php
HTC one X is also faster thn S3 http://www.gsmarena.com/jelly_bean_update_...e-news-5010.php

their price drop so much bcauz 2 many ppl think samsung is best n buy samsung
rule of demand & supple  laugh.gif
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I do purposely tryout Xperia V yesterday, it indeen really smooth and fast, and the screen was solid as well, at least it was in nice and correct color. Samsung always did too vibrant on the color. I know S III and Note II can change color profile but it was really useless, the standard too vivid, the natural too dull, that is not natural but dull.

Actually S III was fast but not really smooth, Samsung cannot proper make smoothest to S III and the most basic phone and contact cannot keep open in background, and take times to open.

Also the phone will reload the entire launcher after running heavy apps - example Google Chrome.

All this issue was gone if you use third party ROM (pure ROM like Nexus 4 Jelly Bean v4.2.1). I believe Samsung use too much RAM for the entire interface, and S III only 1GB which was not really enough for it.

All above issue do gone in Note II as Note II having 2GB RAM and I can't seen any launcher reload issue on my sister Note II. But I not interesting with this phone.

I use too many Samsung phone, kind of bored of it not smooth interface (I want Samsung stock look), it was happen in S II and S III as well, and the build quality was ..... meh.... ok la.

And I also hate Samsung not release full doc. of Exynos chip to developer, this make a lot trouble to them on CM, and that the reason CM developer start switching now.

So I believe is time I switch to Sony soon. smile.gif Also no deny Sony always did pretty elegance phone than Samsung. smile.gif
* unless Samsung really out too outstanding spec and features and look in coming S IV. But I doubt about it, it probably similar look like S III and still pretty plastic look.

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This thread is moving really high pace.. ar least i know many r interested in this phone. Kudos to sony.
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QUOTE(sebastianX11 @ Jan 10 2013, 02:34 PM)
sorry....i dun buy into fanboyism like you do as in how you defended everyphone out there against samsung

i have never once thought sammy phone is every good for dev....pls, they dont release there exynos source to anyone, same goes to tegra. i think you are badly mininfornmed and twisting a lot of facts about how superior sony is.

well whatever, the fact is samsung kicking SONY arse left right centre no matter how hard they market it. marketing is what make the stuff cool. just like iPhone. its about the status, for SONY to catch up
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bcauz samsung is misleading every1 in their marketing
i just bcom very kinky recently bcauz my friend buy a note 2, 2 days ago
instead he should get a new computer 4 his final year multimedia project
just bcauz of samsung's ads, i bcom very angry vmad.gif

now he is asking ppl 2 lend him computer shocking.gif
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QUOTE(junsheng @ Jan 10 2013, 02:42 PM)
bcauz samsung is misleading every1 in their marketing
i just bcom very kinky recently bcauz my friend buy a note 2, 2 days ago
instead he should get a new computer 4 his final year multimedia project
just bcauz of samsung's ads, i bcom very angry  vmad.gif

now he is asking ppl 2 lend him computer shocking.gif
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i too encounter a lot of fanboyism....gosh how i hate that
it used to be android vs apple
now it is samsung clan, the nexus gang, the htc gang.... rclxub.gif rclxub.gif
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QUOTE(Andrewtst @ Jan 10 2013, 02:38 PM)
I do purposely tryout Xperia V yesterday, it indeen really smooth and fast, and the screen was solid as well, at least it was in nice and correct color. Samsung always did to vibrant on the color. I know S III and Note II can change color profile but it was really useless, the standard too vivid, the natural too dull, that is not natural but dull.

Actually S III was fast but not really smooth, Samsung cannot proper make smoothest to S III and the most basic phone and contact cannot keep open in background, and take times to open.

Also the phone will reload the entire launcher after running heavy apps - example Google Chrome.

All this issue was gone if you use third party ROM (pure ROM like Nexus 4 Jelly Bean v4.2.1). I believe Samsung use too much RAM for the entire interface, and S III only 1GB which was not really enough for it.

All above issue was gone in Note II as Note II having 2GB RAM and I can't seen any launcher reload issue on my sister Note II.

I use too many Samsung phone, kind of bored of it not smooth interface (I want Samsung stock look), it was happen in S II and S III as well, and the build quality was ..... meh.... ok la.

And I also hate Samsung not release full doc. of Exynos chip to developer, this make a lot trouble to them on CM, and that the reason CM developer start switching now.

So I believe is time I switch to Sony soon. smile.gif
* unless Samsung really out too outstanding spec and features and look in coming S IV. But I doubt about it, it probably similar look like S III and still pretty plastic look.
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u can change the colour profile but still cannot make the vividness go away
tis is hardware adjustment, LCD gamut adjustment, they offset it
cannot be change anymore

but some ppl like vividness of display
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QUOTE(junsheng @ Jan 10 2013, 02:46 PM)
u can change the colour profile but still cannot make the vividness go away
tis is hardware adjustment, LCD gamut adjustment, they offset it
cannot be change anymore

but some ppl like vividness of display
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Yalo, too vivid, it was unnatural, when seeing photo nearly vomit! and a lot suppose nice wallpaper look awful due to over vividness.

Beside this, Samsung AMOLED (plus or no plus same) got one big issue, it often cannot differentiate the details on dark color.

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QUOTE(sebastianX11 @ Jan 10 2013, 02:45 PM)
i too encounter a lot of fanboyism....gosh how i hate that
it used to be android vs apple
now it is samsung clan, the nexus gang, the htc gang....  rclxub.gif  rclxub.gif
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yup, agreed with you, n at the moment i think samsung fag iseven worst than ifag. samsung fag bash all other phone be it iphone or any other android phone that r not samsung. they r too proud of thinking their phone too ''superior'' than others. sweat.gif doh.gif
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I hope it was not and don't think so.
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anything is possible, let see the htc butterfly what price since it totally same spec with xperia z

yet, since midnight exynos 5 octa is announce, getting less and lesser addicted to xperia z already whistling.gif
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Welcome to the new world of consumerism, where marketers are given the job of implanting the idea into consumers mind to want something a little newer, a little shinier and a little more in fashion. It doesn't mean the best product wins. It is the product(s) that is being pushed into the consumer's mind as being best wins.


Long Version:
Beauty is in the eye of the beholder.

What is beauty? How can we define beauty? Is there a fixed standard to beauty? Or to what is good, what is bad?

At the end of the day, it is all down to marketing. It is how they market things. Look at Apple for example.

What is the perfect size for a phone and scree? Apple has been marketing 3.5" all these while, dismissing 4". It used to be everyone who worships Apple also preaches the 3.5" inch theory till the cows comes home, always saying 3.5" is the best and that 4" is too big for their hands to use, not comfortable etc.

Magically, as the 5th gen was out with a 4" screen, all these Apple worshipers suddenly grew larger hands, accepting the 4" screen size and praising Apple for coming up with that size.

It does not matter if Sony has the best colour reproduction or if it has the sharpest screen. It all just boils down to what is being marketed as the "in" thing. Market the zero brightness black, high contrast and over vividness enough and everyone will start believing that is how things are supposed to be, overly colourful and painful to the eyes.

Unfortunately, we live in a consumerism society. There used to be a time where products were produced by hand, so the supply was low, and with the demand at a particular level, it drove the price up. As time goes by and mass production came in, supply increased a lot, but demand has not changed much. So because of that, companies will need to make consumer's thinking change. It used to be a time when people buy phones to replace their old broken unusable ones. But now, people are changing just because they want something a little newer, a little shinier, a little more "in fashion".
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QUOTE(Areas Elysian @ Jan 10 2013, 04:42 PM)
TL;DR
Welcome to the new world of consumerism, where marketers are given the job of implanting the idea into consumers mind to want something a little newer, a little shinier and a little more in fashion. It doesn't mean the best product wins. It is the product(s) that is being pushed into the consumer's mind as being best wins.
Long Version:
Beauty is in the eye of the beholder.

What is beauty? How can we define beauty? Is there a fixed standard to beauty? Or to what is good, what is bad?

At the end of the day, it is all down to marketing. It is how they market things. Look at Apple for example.

What is the perfect size for a phone and scree? Apple has been marketing 3.5" all these while, dismissing 4". It used to be everyone who worships Apple also preaches the 3.5" inch theory till the cows comes home, always saying 3.5" is the best and that 4" is too big for their hands to use, not comfortable etc.

Magically, as the 5th gen was out with a 4" screen, all these Apple worshipers suddenly grew larger hands, accepting the 4" screen size and praising Apple for coming up with that size.

It does not matter if Sony has the best colour reproduction or if it has the sharpest screen. It all just boils down to what is being marketed as the "in" thing. Market the zero brightness black, high contrast and over vividness enough and everyone will start believing that is how things are supposed to be, overly colourful and painful to the eyes.

Unfortunately, we live in a consumerism society. There used to be a time where products were produced by hand, so the supply was low, and with the demand at a particular level, it drove the price up. As time goes by and mass production came in, supply increased a lot, but demand has not changed much. So because of that, companies will need to make consumer's thinking change. It used to be a time when people buy phones to replace their old broken unusable ones. But now, people are changing just because they want something a little newer, a little shinier, a little more "in fashion".
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yaa so true. good articel. thumbup.gif
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QUOTE(XeactorZ @ Jan 10 2013, 04:33 PM)
anything is possible, let see the htc butterfly what price since it totally same spec with xperia z

yet, since midnight exynos 5 octa is announce, getting less and lesser addicted to xperia z already whistling.gif
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Ya that chip was gorgeous, but are they going to use in S IV, not sure yet.

Wait and see. smile.gif
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Ya that chip was gorgeous, but are they going to use in S IV, not sure yet.

Wait and see. smile.gif
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wonder when got 8 cortex a15 processor LOL
now are 4 a15, 4 a7
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wonder when got 8 cortex a15 processor LOL
now are 4 a15, 4 a7
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I more prefer phone came with 5000mAh battery actually, haha.

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I more prefer phone came with 5000mAh battery actually, haha.
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next year I guess haha
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next year I guess haha
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Hope so.... battery is too small now to handle such high spec phone.
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QUOTE(sebastianX11 @ Jan 10 2013, 02:28 PM)
so the rules same goes to SONY
2 mths it become obsolete...lol icon_rolleyes.gif  nod.gif

the spec is not outdated when compared. but when sony launch it phone with dual core, everyone is going with quad ady, irregardless which performs better thumbup.gif
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QUOTE(sebastianX11 @ Jan 10 2013, 02:34 PM)
sorry....i dun buy into fanboyism like you do as in how you defended everyphone out there against samsung

i have never once thought sammy phone is every good for dev....pls, they dont release there exynos source to anyone, same goes to tegra. i think you are badly mininfornmed and twisting a lot of facts about how superior sony is.

well whatever, the fact is samsung kicking SONY arse left right centre no matter how hard they market it. marketing is what make the stuff cool. just like iPhone. its about the status, for SONY to catch up
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Are you for real? you are conflicting yourself on your post you said earlier. s3 jellybean sucks. why even bother about the jellybean update when it is laggier than ics. they make a mess of project butter.
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QUOTE(Andrewtst @ Jan 10 2013, 05:20 PM)
I more prefer phone came with 5000mAh battery actually, haha.
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bigger battery juice also bigger explosion right? unsure.gif tongue.gif
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bigger battery juice also bigger explosion right? unsure.gif  tongue.gif
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QUOTE(XeactorZ @ Jan 10 2013, 05:27 PM)
hat true, the spec keep better and better, but the battery capacity just increase little bit only
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Ya, that is the problem, and really is time design something better battery now, but no company really invest on that part.

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Does xperia z has front camera?
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QUOTE(teckyang97 @ Jan 10 2013, 07:03 PM)
Does xperia z has front camera?
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so lazy to read the 1st page mad.gif
and yes
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I read ALL the first page,but I see the video of the girl taking photo from rear camera instead of front,which makes me so worry
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QUOTE(teckyang97 @ Jan 10 2013, 07:20 PM)
I read ALL the first page,but I see the video of the girl taking photo from rear camera instead of front,which makes me so worry
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think u read everything except the 1st post doh.gif
check the 1st post .. got link about the camera sensors also
back and front sensors are diff

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QUOTE(draex3 @ Jan 10 2013, 07:43 PM)
think u read everything except the 1st post  doh.gif
check the 1st post .. got link about the camera sensors also
back and front sensors are diff
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Check dy, don't have
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Both Z and ZL have front facing cameras.....

ZL HD 720p for video chat and 2 MP for camera capture
http://www.sonymobile.com/global-en/produc...fications/#tabs

Z Front-facing camera (2.2 MP 1080p)
http://www.sonymobile.com/global-en/produc...fications/#tabs

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QUOTE(teckyang97 @ Jan 10 2013, 07:47 PM)
Check dy, don't have
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rclxub.gif rclxub.gif

QUOTE(junsheng @ Jan 2 2013, 11:34 PM)
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QUOTE(draex3 @ Jan 10 2013, 08:01 PM)
rclxub.gif  rclxub.gif
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Lol,what's wrong with my eye
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From the growth speed of the thread, I believe this phone is going to rock.
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Hopefully the XDA Developers community will 'rock' as well.. Look at Xperia S and T now sad.gif

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sorry if this is repeated question, which one will be coming in Malaysia, the Z or ZL or both?
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According to Sony Mobile MY admin, Z will be coming in April. Then when a few people asked about ZL, they said it is coming as well.

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QUOTE(qwertyuioped @ Jan 10 2013, 09:32 PM)
sorry if this is repeated question, which one will be coming in Malaysia, the Z or ZL or both?
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confirm z...zl need to wait sony malaysia announcement....

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QUOTE(soitsuagain @ Jan 10 2013, 05:27 PM)
Are you for real? you are conflicting yourself on your post you said earlier. s3 jellybean sucks. why even bother about the jellybean update when it is laggier than ics. they make a mess of project butter.
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Problem?
Which part is contradicting, stating the fact? And me hating fanboyism?
Do I have to list down the device here to let you know what devices I've used? Pls....
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Here's an article with videos and pics in it showing the Xperia Z's camera. Quality not bad tbh , more or less the same as the N8 or even better! Audio was good too. But it seems like Sony's phone always do have this audio not being recorded when the video starts to , for about a sec it records the audio.

Can't remember what previous phone had this problem tho.





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QUOTE(junsheng @ Jan 10 2013, 01:03 PM)
europe got vts tax
their spec is not outdated xperia S faster thn S2
xperia T/TX/V is faster thn S3 http://www.gsmarena.com/sony_xperia_tx_t_a...o-news-4722.php
HTC one X is also faster thn S3 http://www.gsmarena.com/jelly_bean_update_...e-news-5010.php

their price drop so much bcauz 2 many ppl think samsung is best n buy samsung
rule of demand & supple  laugh.gif
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well, i would only say that please bear in mind that there are alot of test. and all the test benchmark only test on certain aspect of the phone. example, like as in the Benchmark PI, it does not take multi-core into consideration.

here is a more complete test on the Xperia T

http://www.gsmarena.com/sony_xperia_t-review-820p4.php

so say for sure T/TX is faster than S3, maybe on certain apps, T/TX better while some other apps, S3 better.
Guess it's just better for each one of us to test it on our own.

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QUOTE(ckchan @ Jan 10 2013, 10:19 PM)
well, i would only say that please bear in mind that there are alot of test. and all the test benchmark only test on certain aspect of the phone. example, like as in the Benchmark PI, it does not take multi-core into consideration.

here is a more complete test on the Xperia T

http://www.gsmarena.com/sony_xperia_t-review-820p4.php

so say for sure T/TX is faster than S3, maybe on certain apps, T/TX better while some other apps, S3 better.
Guess it's just better for each one of us to test it on our own.
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I bet s3 will lose to this phone badly
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QUOTE(freakenstein @ Jan 10 2013, 10:16 PM)
Here's an article with videos and pics in it showing the Xperia Z's camera. Quality not bad tbh , more or less the same as the N8 or even better! Audio was good too. But it seems like Sony's phone always do have this audio not being recorded when the video starts to , for about a sec it records the audio.

Can't remember what previous phone had this problem tho.




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Wah boss. I see your bias meter moving from Lumia 920 to Xperia Z liao rclxms.gif
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Wow ! Anyone owned this beast yet ?? drool.gif

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Wow ! Anyone owned this beast yet ??  drool.gif
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QUOTE(XeactorZ @ Jan 10 2013, 04:33 PM)
anything is possible, let see the htc butterfly what price since it totally same spec with xperia z

yet, since midnight exynos 5 octa is announce, getting less and lesser addicted to xperia z already whistling.gif
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i doubt the performance of exynos 5 bcauz it is not truly a15
it is a hybrid
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QUOTE(ckchan @ Jan 10 2013, 10:19 PM)
well, i would only say that please bear in mind that there are alot of test. and all the test benchmark only test on certain aspect of the phone. example, like as in the Benchmark PI, it does not take multi-core into consideration.

here is a more complete test on the Xperia T

http://www.gsmarena.com/sony_xperia_t-review-820p4.php

so say for sure T/TX is faster than S3, maybe on certain apps, T/TX better while some other apps, S3 better.
Guess it's just better for each one of us to test it on our own.
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well if u c the qaudrant benchmark
u will c the xperia T's benchmark is lower thn usual vs previous test
so as others

as assume the 1 who doing the test got problems or they 4 get 2 close running app after they playing with it laugh.gif
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QUOTE(SteadyPana @ Jan 10 2013, 10:58 PM)
Wow ! Anyone owned this beast yet ??  drool.gif
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This phone estimate to launch globally in March
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post Jan 10 2013, 11:23 PM

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QUOTE(junsheng @ Jan 10 2013, 11:10 PM)
well if u c the qaudrant benchmark
u will c the xperia T's benchmark is lower thn usual vs previous test
so as others

as assume the 1 who doing the test got problems or they 4 get 2 close running app after they playing with it  laugh.gif
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Haha... probably, no standards testing method actually.
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post Jan 10 2013, 11:26 PM

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QUOTE(ckchan @ Jan 10 2013, 11:23 PM)
Haha...  probably, no standards testing method actually.
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Since there's so many good phone release in times like that,are you planning to sell your acro s?
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QUOTE(teckyang97 @ Jan 10 2013, 11:26 PM)
Since there's so many good phone release in times like that,are you planning to sell your acro s?
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Haha... bro, me no budget to change phone too frequently la. Ting so hard to resist all the new release... and limit myself only change phone at least after 1 year...
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post Jan 10 2013, 11:33 PM

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QUOTE(junsheng @ Jan 10 2013, 11:04 PM)
i doubt the performance of exynos 5 bcauz it is not truly a15
it is a hybrid
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hybrid ? what do you means ?
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QUOTE(ckchan @ Jan 10 2013, 11:32 PM)
Haha...  bro, me no budget to change phone too frequently la. Ting so hard to resist all the new release... and limit myself only change phone at least after 1 year...
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Why once a year?me at least 3-4 times a year,don't care budget,sell tour current phone or trade,top up a bit,can simply get quad core phones
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QUOTE(XeactorZ @ Jan 10 2013, 11:33 PM)
hybrid ? what do you means ?
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hybrid architecture not a truly A15 chip
http://www.gsmarena.com/samsung_announces_...t-news-5325.php
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QUOTE(junsheng @ Jan 10 2013, 11:39 PM)
hybrid architecture not a truly A15 chip
http://www.gsmarena.com/samsung_announces_...t-news-5325.php
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oo, ya not full
4 cores is using cortex a15, while other 4 is cortex a7

if need high performance then the processor will use cortex a15
else cortex a7

and that what the hybrid means to ensure enough battery life @@
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QUOTE(XeactorZ @ Jan 10 2013, 11:41 PM)
oo, ya not full
4 cores is using cortex a15, while other 4 is cortex a7

if need high performance then the processor will use cortex a15
else cortex a7

and that what the hybrid means to ensure enough battery life @@
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Good lor,can save lots of battery
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QUOTE(XeactorZ @ Jan 10 2013, 11:41 PM)
oo, ya not full
4 cores is using cortex a15, while other 4 is cortex a7

if need high performance then the processor will use cortex a15
else cortex a7

and that what the hybrid means to ensure enough battery life @@
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all 8 core is mini core, actually a7 eat more battery

a7 n a15 is the design architecture, not abt the core doh.gif
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QUOTE(andrewtho @ Jan 10 2013, 11:52 PM)
Wah boss. I see your bias meter moving from Lumia 920 to Xperia Z liao  rclxms.gif
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QUOTE(teckyang97 @ Jan 10 2013, 11:36 PM)
Why once a year?me at least 3-4 times a year,don't care budget,sell tour current phone or trade,top up a bit,can simply get quad core phones
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Not everybody kaya like u bro.. we buy wat we can afford. There r also a lot of other expenses to consider especially a family guy like me, gota feed my wife also laugh.gif my policy change minimum after 2 years.
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QUOTE(junsheng @ Jan 10 2013, 11:50 PM)
all 8 core is mini core, actually a7 eat more battery

a7 n a15 is the design architecture, not abt the core  doh.gif
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mini core ???
i thought 4 is cortex a15 and other 4 is cortex a7 ?
a7 eat more battery ? if yes why samsung don't put all are cortex a7 sweat.gif
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post Jan 11 2013, 01:45 AM

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QUOTE(XeactorZ @ Jan 11 2013, 12:43 AM)
mini core ???
i thought 4 is cortex a15 and other 4 is cortex a7 ?
a7 eat more battery ? if yes why samsung don't put all are cortex a7 sweat.gif
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was wondering about the octacore thing as well. they said it's 4 A15s and 4 A7s; one for heavy duty and the other for light work. but will it ever run all 8 cores at once? or will they just switch between the 4 cores and never run at the same time?
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QUOTE(XeactorZ @ Jan 11 2013, 12:43 AM)
mini core ???
i thought 4 is cortex a15 and other 4 is cortex a7 ?
a7 eat more battery ? if yes why samsung don't put all are cortex a7 sweat.gif
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design wise a15 is much more power efficient with smaller footprint
dono wat they r doing but all r mini core with a15 hybrid a7 design
not 4 core a15 4 core a7, it is much like a combine kick

like example" turbo boost in intel ", the article is misleading ppl in2 thinking
they design 4 core a15, another 4 core a7, n a15 eat more battery
which is no true at all, if u were 2 run a15 small foot print vs a7 design with similar spd
a15 is using much less power & a7 is using much more power
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QUOTE(jin_akira @ Jan 11 2013, 01:45 AM)
was wondering about the octacore thing as well. they said it's 4 A15s and 4 A7s; one for heavy duty and the other for light work. but will it ever run all 8 cores at once? or will they just switch between the 4 cores and never run at the same time?
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if run all cores same time that phone I think half day charge once already LOL
should be like this, if high performance, use the 4 A15, if not enough, use another 4 A7 = use all cores
else, light work use A7 only

QUOTE(junsheng @ Jan 11 2013, 01:57 AM)
design wise a15 is much more power efficient with smaller footprint
dono wat they r doing but all r mini core with a15 hybrid a7 design
not 4 core a15 4 core a7, it is much like a combine kick

like example" turbo boost in intel ", the article is misleading ppl in2 thinking
they design 4 core a15, another 4 core a7, n a15 eat more battery
which is no true at all, if u were 2 run a15 small foot print vs a7 design with similar spd
a15 is using much less power & a7 is using much more power
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totally confusing already rclxub.gif
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QUOTE(XeactorZ @ Jan 11 2013, 02:18 AM)
if run all cores same time that phone I think half day charge once already LOL
should be like this, if high performance, use the 4 A15, if not enough, use another 4 A7 = use all cores
else, light work use A7 only
ohh so it would use lah all cores, only when super heavy work needs to be done? dang what kind of stuff would need all that power for a smartphone..
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post Jan 11 2013, 10:46 AM

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guys, since 2013 is a year of 5'' phone, i listed down all known 5'' and above dwon here.

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SONY XPERIA Z

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SONY XPERIA ZL

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HTC J Butterfly

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K900 LENOVO

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ZTE Grand S

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HUAWEI Ascend G2

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Alcatel One Touch Idol Ultra

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Samsung Galaxy Note 2

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Samsung Galaxy Note

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Dell Streak 5

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QUOTE(uzary @ Jan 11 2013, 12:02 AM)
Not everybody kaya like u bro.. we buy wat we can afford. There r also a lot of other expenses to consider especially a family guy like me, gota feed my wife also laugh.gif my policy change minimum after 2 years.
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That's not my point,for example,you have a smartphone,you wanna trade,top up rm100-200 can get better one,I mean that's not a huge amount
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QUOTE(teckyang97 @ Jan 11 2013, 10:49 AM)
That's not my point,for example,you have a smartphone,you wanna trade,top up rm100-200 can get better one,I mean that's not a huge amount
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That depend on what phone too bro, some phone depreciated like hell, bought 1.5k nex month want to sell 1k also hard. And also it depend on the individuals themself, like me, i like to spend more time wit the phone i bought unless it sux, then i will consider changing to a new one.
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Xperia Z has 5" screen but the Butterfly use the dedicated touch sensitive menu buttons(bottom bezel area) whereas the Z use the bottom part of the actual screen itself.

Is this gonna be the disadvantage of the Z for having less viewing area?

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post Jan 11 2013, 11:18 AM

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hi guys, sry to ask...
as i still confusing whether both Z and ZL will available for malaysia?
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QUOTE(uzary @ Jan 11 2013, 10:54 AM)
That depend on what phone too bro, some phone depreciated like hell, bought 1.5k nex month  want to sell 1k also hard. And also it depend on the individuals themself, like me, i like to spend more time wit the phone i bought unless it sux, then i will consider changing to a new one.
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my tots exactly... nod.gif
and sometimes after getting new phone, may need some time to fully set up and optimised the phone. there after spend some time to enjoy the phone and further experiment it with other apps, OS updates or maybe root it (but so far haven't root an yet, like to try it someday)... that's y i am comfortable with a phone for about 1 year b4 thinking about changing phones.

of course budget also my constrain la... each time say top up 200, 1 year change 3 phones also 600... and may spend some money on it's accessories like casing, SP,...

but for this new Z/ZL, very tempting indeed, again need to get hands on experience on it first b4 deciding... and i think i am one of the few who prefer ZL than Z... blush.gif

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QUOTE(GP mad man @ Jan 11 2013, 11:18 AM)
hi guys, sry to ask...
as i still confusing whether both Z and ZL will available for malaysia?
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so far i didn't see any offcial announcement from sony malaysia. only those post from blog or fb only, saying both will be available in m'sia.
just wait and see lor... but most probably i think will be the Z. which one r u hoping btw?
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QUOTE(nate_nightroad @ Jan 11 2013, 11:16 AM)
Xperia Z has 5" screen but the Butterfly use the dedicated touch sensitive menu buttons(bottom bezel area) whereas the Z use the bottom part of the actual screen itself.

Is this gonna be the disadvantage of the Z for having less viewing area?
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yup. actual usable screen will be smaller. u can see from the Xperia TX and nexus phone. but i think when viewing photos or movies, it will be full screen as the on screen button will auto hide
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for me la.. 8 cores or more suitable for tablet..
for phone.. 4 cores is enough already.. as long as no lag or fc.
even with dual-core also i need to turn many services and features just to save battery..
and with limited storage available.. i dont think there'll be a full HD PS3 quality games for phone.
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QUOTE(ckchan @ Jan 11 2013, 11:39 AM)
so far i didn't see any offcial announcement from sony malaysia. only those post from blog or fb only, saying both will be available in m'sia.
just wait and see lor... but most probably i think will be the Z. which one r u hoping btw?
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but worry they will do like t and tx... unsure.gif
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QUOTE(GP mad man @ Jan 11 2013, 12:57 PM)
am hoping Z to come in
but worry they will do like t and tx...  unsure.gif
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Xperia Z most likely will be coming here. especially because it support our country local lte band. n according to sony mobile malaysia, http://www.facebook.com/sonymobilemy , Zl will come too. im not sure if we can rely on this FB page, however it is an official FB page of Sony Mobile Malaysia. thumbup.gif
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QUOTE(GP mad man @ Jan 11 2013, 11:18 AM)
hi guys, sry to ask...
as i still confusing whether both Z and ZL will available for malaysia?
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avaliable in malaysia both z & zl in april
i ady post in 1st page more info there, u no c sad.gif
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QUOTE(nate_nightroad @ Jan 11 2013, 11:16 AM)
Xperia Z has 5" screen but the Butterfly use the dedicated touch sensitive menu buttons(bottom bezel area) whereas the Z use the bottom part of the actual screen itself.

Is this gonna be the disadvantage of the Z for having less viewing area?
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yea, 4 most of the phone, but u can get a apps tat hide those
n make it avaliable whn u need it
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QUOTE(junsheng @ Jan 11 2013, 01:43 PM)
yea, 4 most of the phone, but u can get a apps tat hide those
n make it avaliable whn u need it
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i am struggling u see, my padfone 2 doesnt have that and i like it...

but seeing most phones like nexus 4 and xperia v has got the menu key taking up the screen area make it seems like it is a trend now....

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QUOTE(nate_nightroad @ Jan 11 2013, 01:45 PM)
i am struggling u see, my padfone 2 doesnt have that and i like it...

but seeing most phones like nexus 4 and xperia v has got the menu key taking up the screen area make it seems like it is a trend now....

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bcauz they try 2 keep the design 2 be flexible lor
if u c gingerbread tat time many android phone got touch button
but whn ICS kick in they remove it

bcauz in new version of ICS tat time, function come in
tat is the more option button, since most of the phone is on touch button is fixed
a layer of more option is placed, so it look more ugly, but fixed in new update

so now most of the maker use screen instead of touch sensitive button laugh.gif
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QUOTE(junsheng @ Jan 11 2013, 01:53 PM)
bcauz they try 2 keep the design 2 be flexible lor
if u c gingerbread tat time many android phone got touch button
but whn ICS kick in they remove it

bcauz in new version of ICS tat time, function come in
tat is the more option button, since most of the phone is on touch button is fixed
a layer of more option is placed, so it look more ugly, but fixed in new update

so now most of the maker use screen instead of touch sensitive button  laugh.gif
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my thought exactly..i start using android that has physical menu button (xperia pro)...when ics comes, it becomes very weird without the multitask button....

i guess that is for future proofing...

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