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 Sony Xperia Z & Xperia ZL Official Thread, 5", 4core, 2GBram, 13mp, LTE, waterproof

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post Jan 8 2013, 06:02 PM

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QUOTE(uzary @ Jan 8 2013, 05:24 PM)
i assumed it will price at RM2199.

btw TS, how do u know the glass used is dragontrail glass? cos from all the videos i watched, they only mention a tempered glass..
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yes .... one of the video from sony does mention they use dragon tail ....


but i wondering why they use IP 55 and IP 57 in the mention, cause i found it really funny cause no one use two rating on one device .....


pls don't be idiot said first IP 55 is for dust and second ip 57 for water, cause IP only use two number, first number stand for solid and second number stand for liquid, third is letter but rarely see this type gadget around ....
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post Jan 8 2013, 07:22 PM

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QUOTE(waveweaver @ Jan 8 2013, 07:20 PM)
no worry sony phone prices drop very fast ... hhahaah
actually i more worry on battery life, like acro S (lucky din't buy that phone, obsolete in 3 month smile.gif)
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post Jan 8 2013, 08:27 PM

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QUOTE(junsheng @ Jan 8 2013, 07:27 PM)
xperia T/TX/TL obsolete in 2 month whn xperia V released in december
now xperia v is going 2 obsolete in march whn xperia Z release  laugh.gif
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yah this is how sony work now ..... so when time to buy xperia Z, new phone on the line d ...


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post Jan 8 2013, 09:19 PM

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QUOTE(nate_nightroad @ Jan 8 2013, 09:02 PM)
different phone for different segment ma....

Z is premium...V is high ended
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V not really highend compare with other brand la, still using 1 gb ram ....

for me, xperia is Sony first highend mobile that able to compete with other brand, but come out six month slower than other's brand .....

was expecting more from xperia Z but seem like design/outlook is good but nothing more ..... why they remove dedicated camera button .......
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post Jan 9 2013, 09:17 AM

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QUOTE(junsheng @ Jan 9 2013, 12:37 AM)
xperia v t tx tl but they r faster thn s3  laugh.gif
http://www.gsmarena.com/sony_xperia_tx_t_a...o-news-4722.php

bcauz sony is using 2 stage camera button which cannot implement
if the device is waterproof
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what u means two stages ? is that different with acro S ? i think that must be some technical reason they found from acro S . . . . today technology, two stage (focus and shot) with water proof is just click of their finger smile.gif

QUOTE(junsheng @ Jan 9 2013, 01:58 AM)
samsung & iphone is using sony camera sensor, so cannot win sony proprietary camera sensor  laugh.gif
http://news.cnet.com/8301-13579_3-57518444...by-sony-sensor/
http://www.pocket-lint.com/news/45909/sams...e4s-same-camera

samsung s3 & note 2's audio performance is just average only
bcauz mainly they use Walson audio chipset it is a mediocre quality http://www.droid-life.com/2012/06/26/the-s...ns-audio-chips/

but sony phone audio quality also no very good either, if compare 2 good mp3 player
better get a proper mp3 player  laugh.gif
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Yes sony make sensor (they make for nikon too), but camera is not purely base on sensor it self, especially mobile phone camera smile.gif
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QUOTE(waveweaver @ Jan 9 2013, 09:06 AM)
June..!!? doh.gif
Then die lor..it will comes head to head with SGS4 rclxub.gif
Sony should release this beast before other rivals release their flagship phone shakehead.gif
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if june, than confirm this phone cannot sell again .... even march (is 9 month behind S3) also consider delay already ...

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post Jan 9 2013, 03:26 PM

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QUOTE(junsheng @ Jan 9 2013, 12:04 PM)
2 stage shutter, the shutter in arco s not responsive as xperia S  sad.gif
but still good if got camera button  laugh.gif
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no button mean no under water snap la ... hahaahaaha
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post Jan 9 2013, 04:28 PM

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benchmark test + look at battery life too ... seem like another battery hungry monster
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QUOTE(soitsuagain @ Jan 9 2013, 04:50 PM)
XZ is coming around April according to Sony Mobile MY facebook page.
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so late ??? just two month away from S4 ...
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post Jan 9 2013, 06:01 PM

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QUOTE(uzary @ Jan 9 2013, 05:53 PM)
i duno bout u guys, but i give a dem even if galaxy s4 going to be release nex month, i still goin to get this xperia Z. im a loyal sony fan, and i waited for this kinda of spec for ages from sony. what more to expected from samsung s4? a faster quad core?? more ram?? those only  an overkill features.

im thinking even if sony released the phone sooner, it would be great howeva to expect those samsung fan to switch their phone's brand it close to impossible. samsung fan already become more or less like an ifag oredy. i met a lot of people only know samsung phone and iphone. other brands seems like an alien to them.
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why i said that ? basically sony is nearly 10 month behind other flag( if they launch the phone in April), obviously they can be market leader but for very short term, then new model release again and old model no more support ..... look at acro S, is just few month old, their jb promise on april and sony malaysia already declare obsolete ...

This is smart phone, it does need certain support from manufacturer make it better, the way you hamtam others is just make u no different, blind support without knowing it .....
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post Jan 9 2013, 11:16 PM

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QUOTE(junsheng @ Jan 9 2013, 07:42 PM)
misleading ler
sony still support their phone, even the low end 1
u still c those phone still get security update, n software update 2 ICS

they r just slow with jellybean, it is not easy 2 implement stuff in2 a new OS
in short time, new 3.4 kernal, bravia engin, clear audio+ ...  laugh.gif
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yah they have internal update on security bug (that is bug fixing), update to ICS (yes compare with other ?)

Is not easy ? yes agree is not easy for a small company like miui, aokp, cm and others but they make it before giant company like samsung and sony .... basically those custom rom company size is not even equal 10% of samsung or Sony software development team but they able to do it cause of their passion and aim ....

Sony, samsung and other giant company main priority is their in house widget/addon/so on, then OS ....
custom is OS then add on. that two different way of building, like your brother company, they mod app to suit OS, not mod OS to suit app ....
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QUOTE(ckchan @ Jan 17 2013, 11:36 PM)
just take it this way. at the end of the day, glass is still glass which will still break if got hit hard enough or heat or whatever, comparing to other material like plastic. especially if you think about how thin that layer of glass used in handphone... i mean, don't expect it to be unbreakable. as long as it's glass, chances of breakage/cracking will be higher than other material.

so, regardless of what the manufacturer claims on how durable the glass is, always take it with a pinch of salt and handle it with care

just my 2 cents.

ps. bulletproof glass exception la. i think bulletproof glass will not be as thin as in handphone glass..
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bulletproof is plastic, it stop bullet by reducing heat and melt together
QUOTE(teckyang97 @ Jan 17 2013, 11:40 PM)
I mean caused by sudden temperature change like nexus 4,I'm not saying like glass is glass,but just will it break as easily as nexus 4 with sudden temperature change
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any type of plastic, glass also have their limitation on sudden temperature change, be it gorrila or dragontail or plastic, it can be break in split second ....

try bring anybrand plastic, glass casing to ice cream maker machine, it break in 5 second smile.gif

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QUOTE(jeff10012003 @ Jan 28 2013, 12:40 AM)
Never ever forget SE's first waterproof with dedicated camera button, the xperia active..
» Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... «

In my opinion, due to Sony's attempt to achieve OmniBalance+Premium looking(being the whole thing in glass)+IP55/IP57, they would have to remove the dedicated camera button..
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i dunno why and how they rate it at ip55/ip57 ? that only two IP rating (code), is the first and second digit only, that is no IP 55 for dust and ip 57 for liquid .... is really miss leading ..

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QUOTE(mcchin @ Jan 28 2013, 10:41 PM)
Errr...

let me try explain what you wanna say

IP Rating = Ingress Protection rating

it consist of 2 numerals

the first (5 here) means "Limited dust ingress protection"
while the second (5 or 7) means:

5 = low pressure water jets from any direction
7 = Immersion between 15cm and 1m depth
so it will means that
IP55 is a rating that will be dust resistant and resist water penetrate from low pressure source
IP57 is a rating that will be dust resistant and resist water penetrate from immersion of 0.15-1.0 meter

not really misleading
as the first numeral is a resistant to solids
while the 2nd is towards liquid
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so what those that means of ip55/ip 57.
if ip 55 means
5= low pressure water jets from any direction
5= Water jets Water projected by a nozzle (6.3 mm) against enclosure from any direction shall have no harmful effects.

btw u don't see any gadget with 2 ip rating or four digit rating ....
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QUOTE(mcchin @ Jan 29 2013, 07:49 AM)
no
you got it wrong

the first number is always means a rating for solids

so the IP55 means limited resistant to dust + low pressure water jets from any direction

and the IP57 = Limited resistant to dust (since it has passed) + immersion between 15cm and 1m depth

http://www.sensorsone.co.uk/ip-rating-checker.html
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yah so the phone is low pressure water jets from any direction + immersion between 15cm and 1m depth ? so when u try to claim warranty, they tell you ur phone is IP 55 (status there), so it can't be claim (base on their pressure test, It pass IP 55), how ?

u don't understand my question, there is no gadget come with two rating ....

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QUOTE(junsheng @ Jan 29 2013, 01:16 AM)
actually there is
read here 4 more info
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IP_Code
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issit ? show me which line showing a gadget with two rating ?
that possible they they show IP5X/IPx7 but not showing ip55/ip57, cause during warranty claim, they will do pressure test, if base on IP 55 pressure test, we all screw ...
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QUOTE(jeff10012003 @ Feb 4 2013, 02:47 PM)
I haven't search for any distributor in Malaysia..
but i think there might be none..huhu..
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if u have dslr 50 mm, just turn that lens oppsoite than u get that macro effect .....

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QUOTE(robertlee @ Feb 12 2013, 03:17 PM)
What a poison thread.

I falling in love with it and decide to get it once it available.
anyway, I feel guilty on my Padfone 2 ...... sad.gif

How ?
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sell cheap cheap ... than no guity ...

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