Merry Christmas and happy new year to all !

Looking for ultra wide angle zoom lens .
need recomendation from all.

done some googling ,
tamron 10-24
sigma 12-24 f4
sigma 8-16
tokina 11-16
sony 11-16

need recomendation on which lens is best for outdoor and indoor .
hopefully some input/reason as well.

Thanks
btw 1st 

1:1 means that the subject size will be reproduced the same size on the sensor. Usually when the macro lens is at its maximum extension and at its MFD.

So when u said that the frog is too big for macro at 1:1, it's a given, but doesn't mean that you can't use the macro lens to shoot, you just hv to move back a bit to fill the frame, in that case you'll just won't get 1:1, probably 1:X (x>1)

Guys, this fake lens flare ok or not ??

  thanks

anyone alpha users from Kota Bharu here?
i need ur help guys.
my a200 is semi faulty ady
figure on the left show what i see before taking picture and the right one is the captured one.
not sure the lens SAL1855 or the body faulty.

it stay like that for few months ady.
thinking of borrowing someone lens for a few minutes to test it before decide what to do with it;

it was since 2 years ago.
LOL
so u sure that the symptom only happened to the body only?

My a77 Full of dust, still under warranty, can i send in sony ask them to clean?