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Photography The Sony Alpha Thread V59, The Orange Legion

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jimlim007
post Dec 24 2012, 12:17 PM

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lol... home made diy soupphere and bd

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environment: small room; camera to subject 3ft, camera to subject white bg(wall) 6ft, flash to ceiling ~5-6ft
setting: iso200, f5.6, 50mm focal, TTL, M mode, flash compensation -0.3


in comparison tests, I found:

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- pure flash 0 degree ceiling bounce is the best if ceiling is low for most soft light
- pure flash 45 degree bounce is the best if ceiling is low for softer light & little catch light
- diy soupphere complete failed when shoot 90 degree flash to subject (not doing well on the doom)
- diy bd seem not working well, feel the dish is too narrow

summary: if ceiling there, it rock w/o any gadget. if not, my guess still need to bounce high ceiling and pull out the bounce card in f43

p/s: if i am wrong, please stab lightly enough unsure.gif

Added on December 24, 2012, 12:45 pm
QUOTE(zstan @ Dec 24 2012, 11:00 AM)
if you are using bounce flash then it will automatically change back to TTL.
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oh yeah, i saw that small bounce icon once yesterday doing test shoot, it disappear i bengkok the flash flash.

just now try to simulate it in various way, cant get it anymore...

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post Dec 24 2012, 01:33 PM

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QUOTE(ieR @ Dec 24 2012, 12:58 PM)
jimmyyap03:
i) if u ask any of us here, we sure tell u, get sony flash, dont spend money on 3rd party, few  month later u get tired of the inconsistency and damn troublesome to use, eventually u will come back here and ask... "where to get the cheapest F43?".... just skip to F43. save the troublesome journey.

ii) macro 1:1 just MF to the max 1:1 then adjust ur camera distance until subject is in focus.
actually, most macro shooter dont exactly shoot at 1:1, most of use shoot at desire "DOF"...

steve88, zstam, mastering89: there is a overwrite setting inside the flash, where it allows manual flash in PAS mode. usually its disable and auto goes back to TTL/ADI when detected the camera is on PAS mode.
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even thought f43 design little bit change compare to conventional flash gun. but the flash head still enough space to hold your diy BD lol...

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post Dec 25 2012, 08:32 AM

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QUOTE(mls_gamer @ Dec 24 2012, 09:58 PM)
Jimlim007

You bought your flash last month right ??
got what inside the package ??? smile.gif

Added on December 24, 2012, 10:28 pm
Jimmy we buy the F43 flash together  brows.gif  icon_idea.gif
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erm, a flash unit, based stand, and it come with sony flash pouch. user manual... like that.

Added on December 25, 2012, 8:33 am
QUOTE(lwliam @ Dec 25 2012, 02:57 AM)
While you all busy spending the evening with friends and family on Christmas eve tongue.gif
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Added on December 25, 2012, 3:07 am

Yes, the F43 can go down to 1/128th of full power, whereas F58 can only go down to 1/32th, hence better. If you're going for outright raw power, then obviously the f58 is better, in fact, now it's the f60 that took the lead.
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pictures look clean! awesome!

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post Dec 25 2012, 01:05 PM

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QUOTE(8tvt @ Dec 25 2012, 09:25 AM)
if long exposure.. the sky will bright..
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long exposure typically refer to 1/30 and above? hmm.gif
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post Dec 25 2012, 02:44 PM

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QUOTE(zstan @ Dec 25 2012, 02:20 PM)
iso 200 not clean the camera can throw liao
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true, but it does not mean camera got iso 200, mean we can obtain such clean photo. if the user not clear what in his setting, still will end up different output of picture.

lwliam is pro, that why his shot is so clean-nice! if person noob like me, may be i would ended bad shot in wrong setting lol...

Added on December 25, 2012, 2:46 pm
QUOTE(fansoption @ Dec 25 2012, 02:34 PM)
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wow! that item (clamp holder) look familiar.... saw it before on internet, is not cheap...

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post Dec 25 2012, 05:59 PM

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QUOTE(porkchop @ Dec 25 2012, 02:52 PM)
can someone help comment? over exposed? too bright??
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there is a method can check whether got any over exposure in LR. may be need some pro to advise. i used to watch in youtube in some tutorial. it is seem easy just drag the or pressing some keys, entire picture change into black /white to see the trend....

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post Dec 25 2012, 06:22 PM

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QUOTE(8tvt @ Dec 25 2012, 06:21 PM)
a57 a65 a77..
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an used of a77 with ~1 yrs warranty, how nice if can get!
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post Dec 25 2012, 06:31 PM

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QUOTE(8tvt @ Dec 25 2012, 06:21 PM)
a57 a65 a77..
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too bad with lens
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post Dec 25 2012, 11:16 PM

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QUOTE(Newbieeeeee @ Dec 25 2012, 11:13 PM)
Where did you get this from?
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QUOTE(lozenges @ Dec 25 2012, 08:13 PM)
Is it possible to get only the a77 body?how much for new n used one?
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you might to visit closely to alphanatics forum sell section, someone will sell alpha camera at there. i used to saw someone sell a77 used at similar price.

Added on December 25, 2012, 11:18 pm
QUOTE(lwliam @ Dec 25 2012, 07:58 PM)
porkchop's question wasn't about whether the pics are overexposed in technical terms or not. His question is whether his method of 'high key' used to shoot the model is 'acceptable' or not. It is a subjective question.

As for jimlim's reply, it's by using the "level's adjustment layer". Hold down Alt and drag the black/white slider to see which part of the image is clipped.
8-10pm

In your trials, were there any light pollution?
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thanks! taken note

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post Dec 26 2012, 05:01 PM

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QUOTE(Codyx @ Dec 26 2012, 12:32 AM)
Merry X'Mas  rclxms.gif
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greetings from Comic Fiesta '12
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awesome!
how you shoot this photo? your camera position/ height? lens? camera setting? flash setup? flash bounce ceiling?
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post Dec 30 2012, 10:27 AM

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QUOTE(Codyx @ Dec 28 2012, 07:16 PM)
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mr codyX, something need your help and advise. I tried ps color isolation, i encountered the subject edge got grey edge, if i further paint on it (black concede) the cast/color band (like below picture -green , purple, etc) will appear, if not do it the edge, the gray edge remain does not look natural. Got anyway can fix the edge? thanks in advance!

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post Dec 30 2012, 11:45 AM

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QUOTE(Codyx @ Dec 30 2012, 11:34 AM)
yeahh, that's the hard part for it, depends on your photo to view on HQ(for pixel peekers), else no need to isolate until the subject, just touch to the other background enough already.

u need soft edge tool to isolate so it' won't be obvious than using hard masking tool, and easier to control  brows.gif
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Or if you have time zoom and isolate at pixel-state  sweat.gif

p/s: also depends of the focus sharpness of your subject edges  ohmy.gif
Madoka Magica  wub.gif

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thanks mr codyX for the hint notworthy.gif I will try later see i can improve further or not on the color isolation
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post Dec 30 2012, 09:52 PM

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what is different between manual flash and multiple flash in f43am?

and how to turn On the MFNR? (lazy open manual, dont shoot me), iset in jpeg and unable to locate in just now in shpping mall

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post Dec 31 2012, 06:58 PM

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QUOTE(8tvt @ Dec 31 2012, 02:46 PM)
it's a troll.. that's why don't bother.. u all are smart and can pick which one u want..
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haiz, i observed orange legion sometime, always come back to the square. see and tire doh.gif relax bro tongue.gif
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post Jan 2 2013, 11:05 AM

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guy, if i bought a variable ND filter 77mm to my 72mm SAL1650SSM, I should get the step up or step down ring? It look confuse to me as I do not know this should start from lens to body diameter or vice versa.
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post Jan 2 2013, 01:25 PM

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QUOTE(shootkk @ Jan 2 2013, 11:09 AM)
Should be step up ring as your filter is larger.
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thx notworthy.gif

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QUOTE(Newbieeeeee @ Jan 2 2013, 12:02 PM)
Step up. Think of it as stepping up your lens from 72 to 77. Or step down from 72 to 62 etc.
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post Jan 3 2013, 12:59 PM

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QUOTE(michael9413 @ Jan 3 2013, 08:06 AM)
Wow... Jimmy finally you bought the SAL1650 Lens...
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the information you had entered is invalid smile.gif
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post Jan 4 2013, 08:40 AM

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porkchop, did you use any flash in your shots?
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post Jan 4 2013, 12:52 PM

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hmm... the lighting just amazing to me!
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post Jan 4 2013, 07:00 PM

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QUOTE(shootkk @ Jan 4 2013, 02:03 PM)
That's the combination of a bright aperture and fairly high ISO. Catch the ambient while preserving the shutter speed.

That's why I say : Don't be afraid to use high ISO! If you resized to seeing on screen, you practically cannot really make out the noise.

You can see the bright aperture setting when you notice that most of the frame is already in bokeh. It helps if your subject is strong so people will not notice it as much the 'blur, blur' areas.

Another thing is that the 50mm on a FF is very versatile!! Thus if you have aps-c, it's time to consider the 35mm lens. Let's you take a lot of stuff with just one lens. Prime lenses also help you with your composition. You know you cannot zoom so you need to move your arse around to get a good angle. After a while of doing this, you will learn to recognize fairly good angles.
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what is the usual SS minimum we must maintain if hand help in wedding shoot? i know it is subjective to person hand, averagely...?
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