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PC Audio HTPC, anyone doing this?

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post Jan 6 2009, 05:54 PM

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QUOTE(ue_smsc @ Jan 6 2009, 02:56 PM)
can u show me the link to the thread selling?
right now im using my wireless keyboard to control media center..  cry.gif
much easier using remote instead.. thx
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niclasteoh is selling it here. but it's out of stock

this is the one that viewnet and allit are selling. pinnacle mce remote kit.
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post Jan 6 2009, 06:24 PM

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Price of that remote control?
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post Jan 6 2009, 06:33 PM

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QUOTE(Matrix @ Jan 6 2009, 09:31 AM)
PowerDVD 8 i am not sure, but i use Windows Media Player/Media Centre. What i do is use a software to set the WMP/WMC codec to PDVD8 Cyberlink codec.

Tested and proven can work. smile.gif (i'll double check later if my Wall-E is mkv extension or not). But i can't remember the name of that software. Just a very small app. Maybe i'll post the app links or megaupload later.


Added on January 6, 2009, 9:41 am

All IT Hypermarket got a lot. RM119.
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Hmmm that's interesting. However, the sub renderer and teh video decoder needs to be done by the same codec. Only MPC-HC does that. The best things in life are usually free brows.gif .
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post Jan 6 2009, 06:45 PM

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QUOTE(Matrix @ Jan 6 2009, 02:50 PM)
Err...why do you want to compare a HTPC and an LCD TV???? Doesn't make sense...rclxub.gif One is a PC, the other is a TV!

At any rate, u can check the power wattage of the LCD from behind the panel.
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i plan my htpc to become a basic pc and a tv in the same time, so i just want to know the power consumption of both htpc and lcd tv.

if HTPC (with lcd) consume less power, it is good then. i get a pc and a tv.. but no lcd tv.. im just comparing which one is the most value for money.

considering both lcd tv and htpc cost rm2.5k. which one will save my electric bill.. hmm.gif ?

btw, i dont own a lcd tv cry.gif
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QUOTE(Matrix @ Jan 6 2009, 09:31 AM)
PowerDVD 8 i am not sure, but i use Windows Media Player/Media Centre. What i do is use a software to set the WMP/WMC codec to PDVD8 Cyberlink codec.

Tested and proven can work. smile.gif (i'll double check later if my Wall-E is mkv extension or not). But i can't remember the name of that software. Just a very small app. Maybe i'll post the app links or megaupload later.

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Yep. Confirmed MKV. Just install PDVD8. Then run this utility to select the decoder to get Cyberlink DXVA from WMP/WMC.

http://www.megaupload.com/?d=AHI25COM
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QUOTE(blindbox @ Jan 6 2009, 06:33 PM)
Hmmm that's interesting. However, the sub renderer and teh video decoder needs to be done by the same codec. Only MPC-HC does that. The best things in life are usually free brows.gif .
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Don't quite get what u mean, but you can select the Cyberlink codec for both audio and video. I don't like MPC anyway...prefer WMC anyday...coz i got MCE remote...everything under my control...mua-haha...also VISTA MCE is so pretty.. wub.gif

Here's a screenshot.

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Added on January 6, 2009, 7:55 pm
QUOTE(gamers maniac @ Jan 6 2009, 06:45 PM)
i plan my htpc to become a basic pc and a tv in the same time, so i just want to know the power consumption of both htpc and lcd tv.

if HTPC (with lcd) consume less power, it is good then. i get a pc and a tv.. but no lcd tv.. im just comparing which one is the most value for money.

considering both lcd tv and htpc cost rm2.5k. which one will save my electric bill..  hmm.gif ?

btw, i dont own a lcd tv  cry.gif
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Hmmm...dun get what u mean.

So u want a PC and a CRT TV(since u said no LCD TV)??? Not a good idea. In fact, not workable idea. You won't want to use ur CRT as a monitor. It'll kill ur eyes.

HTPC can be very cheap...u dun need RM2.5K. Power consumption of the HTPC will depends on ur specs. Alternatively, you can wait for Nvidia's new platform ION, which is an ATOM PC with HD movie decoding capability. Definitely will save power. But dunno when it'll come out...

This post has been edited by Matrix: Jan 6 2009, 07:57 PM
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i got 1 extra BD drive for sale.its brand new.if anyone interested let me know... icon_rolleyes.gif
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post Jan 6 2009, 10:11 PM

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BD rom or BD writer? from POP ar?
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QUOTE(ar188 @ Jan 6 2009, 10:11 PM)
BD rom or BD writer? from POP ar?
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opss sorry yup BD-RW... sweat.gif
yup exacly same like PoP but not from him.this is from my source... tongue.gif
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QUOTE(vey99 @ Jan 6 2009, 04:35 PM)
I think I'd try to reinstall vista (diff version). Getting a bit bored with XP MCE (but still love it)

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my XP MCE is still running faithfully and same as you, getting bored and i built new rig for Vista ultimate (ahem....) 2 weeks ago everything fine but i have issues with EPG. let me know which version of ultimate works perfectly.
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QUOTE(Matrix @ Jan 6 2009, 07:49 PM)
Don't quite get what u mean, but you can select the Cyberlink codec for both audio and video. I don't like MPC anyway...prefer WMC anyday...coz i got MCE remote...everything under my control...mua-haha...also VISTA MCE is so pretty.. wub.gif
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Here's what I mean. Do you know why mkvs are created? So that you can put the softsubs(subs=subtitles) and the video in the same file. Now, the softsub is rendered by DirectVobSub usually, and the video is rendered by ffdshow(or CoreAVC). However, if you want to enable DXVA, you can't have the softsub being rendered by software and the video rendered by GPU. It won't work. Subtitles have to be combined with the video on the go. Having the CPU and GPU doing the same job doesn't sound logical to me (the CPUs job is either giving other things jobs to do, or they do the job themselves)
Audio is a different story, they're decoded by something else and is completely unrelated to the video, except when it comes to synchronisation.

Here comes MPC-HC, it ALLOWS the softsub to be rendered by the GPU as well, hence allowing full DXVA support for mkv (you should mind that subtitles still look better with DirectVobSub, though they are minor).

Sure PowerDVD might be able to play mkv, but can it display the subtitles with DXVA on?
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post Jan 9 2009, 11:19 AM

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Hi, I am new to this forum,

I too,.... am wondering....on a quest, as to go for a simple Multimedia player like Divico, WD HD or HTPC.

1) can a normal PC be loaded with the HTPC software, if can what
software and version

2) which is better Multimedia player or HTPC in terms of simplicity

- Video to LCD(which will be better)
- up-conversion from normal DVD to 1080i/p
- audio quality when routed to a HD-DTS amplifier
- ease of use-- in terms of just switch ON, select and PLAY
- browsing and selecting ot songs, movies, --- which is faster, and
lagging or delay when selecting and play

- in terms of support and future upgrade

3) for a starter from which is the recommended buy????

4) most of all, for users that selected HTPC, or migrate from MediaPlayers
to HTPC please also elaborate why,why & WHY

I hope this request will benefit all that is half decided which to buy, as
SORRY TO SAY, we learn from past users experiences and setbacks.

thank you very much,

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post Jan 9 2009, 11:30 AM

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QUOTE(blindbox @ Jan 8 2009, 11:58 PM)
Here's what I mean. Do you know why mkvs are created? So that you can put the softsubs(subs=subtitles) and the video in the same file. Now, the softsub is rendered by DirectVobSub usually, and the video is rendered by ffdshow(or CoreAVC). However, if you want to enable DXVA, you can't have the softsub being rendered by software and the video rendered by GPU. It won't work. Subtitles have to be combined with the video on the go. Having the CPU and GPU doing the same job doesn't sound logical to me (the CPUs job is either giving other things jobs to do, or they do the job themselves)
Audio is a different story, they're decoded by something else and is completely unrelated to the video, except when it comes to synchronisation.

Here comes MPC-HC, it ALLOWS the softsub to be rendered by the GPU as well, hence allowing full DXVA support for mkv (you should mind that subtitles still look better with DirectVobSub, though they are minor).

Sure PowerDVD might be able to play mkv, but can it display the subtitles with DXVA on?
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IC. Thanks for the info. I'm just a newbie with HD movie formats. Anyway, i don't care about subtitles, just blocking my view only. Actually, it's not such a big deal even if there's no DXVA support. Most modern CPU can handle the HD movies pretty well, using around 30% to 50% CPU power or even less. It's not like you'll be playing a 3D game while watching a HD movie, so i guess using MPC-HC to will be better if you need the subtitles.

Is setting up MPC-HC for DXVA complicated?
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post Jan 10 2009, 07:04 PM

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Not really, check a few pages back, I put a guide there. You can also check the MPC-HC's website(google it...). I do care about subtitles, I don't understand Japanese. tongue.gif
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post Jan 11 2009, 08:06 PM

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use MPCSTAR it can play all formats that i know off smile.gif smile.gif


Added on January 11, 2009, 8:17 pmI just got myself a Windows XP Digital Media Center Edition 2006, wilonly try it after CNY you know la have reformat %^%&*??? :-(

do you think its better than Win MCE 2005 XP

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QUOTE(blindbox @ Jan 10 2009, 07:04 PM)
Not really, check a few pages back, I put a guide there. You can also check the MPC-HC's website(google it...). I do care about subtitles, I don't understand Japanese. tongue.gif
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Japanese AV movie...subtitles for what???? LOL.

I'm only interested in Hollywood movies, so no problem for me. And i do know a little nihon-go. smile.gif


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QUOTE(moomoos @ Jan 11 2009, 08:06 PM)
use MPCSTAR it can play all formats that i know off smile.gif smile.gif


Added on January 11, 2009, 8:17 pmI just got myself a Windows XP Digital Media Center Edition 2006, wilonly try it after CNY you know la have reformat %^%&*??? :-(

do you think its better than Win MCE 2005 XP
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Why don't u just install VISTA? The VISTA MCE is way superior to the dated XP MCE.

This post has been edited by Matrix: Jan 13 2009, 03:51 PM
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HEHE...... my acer notebook only support 2GBMax, will be very slow on Vista, have tested out oledi.

anyway, what the difference with XP and XP MCE, mean to say the outlook is different, when you boot up you get a multimedia format like we see in AV fair JW Marriot

thanks
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Is G45 chipset (X4500HD) powerful enough for 1080p video playback? must be silky smooth ler..
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QUOTE(leoboom @ Jan 13 2009, 06:32 PM)
Is G45 chipset (X4500HD) powerful enough for 1080p video playback? must be silky smooth ler..
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Should be more than enuff....btw, i see my ex-Prodigy LT card is now in ur HTPC sig...smile.gif
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QUOTE(escapee @ Oct 22 2008, 10:34 AM)
if you connect sound card digital output / spdif to receiver, you get dts sound, with dts indication at receiver as sound is decode by receiver

if you connect sound card 3.5mm jack to receiver rca for all 5 channel, you still get the dts sound, but no indication at receiver as sound decode by soundcard

hope this is the answer
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dts, dts-es, dolby, dolby-ex, AC3 are previous generation lossy standard. though SPDIF that normally available in most sound card and onboard mb too.
the SPDIF standard only carry Stereo 2ch on transport, however the Dolby Digital Live and DTS Connect design specially for PC platform are enable it to carry multi-channel DVD-source via SPDIF encode then to your avr to decode it...no problem. but as stated DVD-source meant 5.1channel only but not 7.1channel for sure.

now blu-ray and hd around. current lossless standard playing are Dolby TrueHD & DTS-HD.
for HTPC kaki have problem on that. I'm the 1 of it headache on that. Dolby TrueHD & DTS-HD using high bandwith as loseless standard using.
SPDIF definitely not capable but only HDMI. furthermore DHCP protection too...

but HDMI sound card not hot in market here yet, I already check this new arrival still expensive or coming soon only....
if you willing to buy from ebay and ship from oversea still very costly!!!!

1. http://www.asus.com/products.aspx?l1=25&l2...355&modelmenu=1
2. http://www.auzentech.com/site/products/x-f...etheater_hd.php

my HTPC already build...changing mb to build in HDMI port is not the best solution for me. hopefully those HDMI sound card quickly have mature market here with affortable price.... or any better idea suggest and sharing????

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