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QUOTE(prophetjul @ Feb 1 2013, 01:45 PM)
Why am i not bothered diamonds or whatever appear before me?

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Just remember tis women on video Patricia King



Full Gospel Businessman singapore organize a meeting with Patricia King. Tis women has gemstones appear in her meeting. Even in malaysia u can ask churches like DUMC, Glad Tidings, FGA, PJCC, Trinity Community Church, Full Gospel Businesman Malaysia whether they believe tis manifestation are true. I think even NECF believe. So all these ppl are wrong?
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In the New Testament, there are some mysterious points that are easily missed by readers of the Bible. They are points that are difficult to grasp. For example, in the book of Ephesians Paul revealed the thought concerning the fullness of Christ as the Body of Christ, which is the church of Christ. When he spoke of the church, he said that it is the Body of Christ (Eph. 1:23). This is a very profound term. In chapter four of Ephesians, Paul used another profound word, “the fullness of Christ’’ (v. 13). He said that the fullness of Christ is the expression of Christ. This expression is fully a matter of the eternal and divine life of God.

In John 10:10 the Lord Jesus said that He came that the sheep may have life and have it more abundantly. Most Christians know that life is for salvation. Christ is our life for the purpose that we would be saved. Of course, there is nothing wrong in this realization. However, this is not enough. When Christ enters into us, not only is He life to us to save us, but He is also making us the church through this saving life.

The church is the Body of Christ. It is not an organization, but an organism. It is not a matter of outward things, but a matter of an inward life. The church can be compared to the human body. Outwardly speaking, the human body is composed of all the different organs and members. It may look like an organization. Actually, every part of the human body is a matter of life. Hence, the church is not an organization, but an organism. Look at my ten fingers. Not only is every finger joined to me; each one has an organic relationship with me. All of them have a circulation and a fellowship with the blood of the whole body. The whole body is a living organism that is full of the activities of life. The wooden stand before me is different. It is composed of pieces of wood as an organization; there is no life in them.

THE ORGANIC BODY OF CHRIST NEEDING THE GROWTH

The church is the Body of Christ. As the human body needs to grow, in the same way the Body of Christ needs to grow. In Ephesians 4, the word “growth,’’ “grown,” or “to grow’’ is used at least three times. First, Paul says, “Until we all arrive…at a full-grown man’’ (4:13). When a man is first born, his stature is very small. Day by day, he needs to grow, until he becomes a full-grown man. Since the church is the Body of Christ, it needs to grow day by day also. Following this, Paul says, “We may grow up into Him in all things, who is the Head, Christ’’ (4:15). After a Christian is saved, he is a person in Christ. But there are still many things not of Christ in him. For this reason, he has to give the Lord the ground in all things so that the Lord may grow in him.

Finally, we have “the growth of the Body’’ (4:16). The church is the Body of Christ. This body grows; it does not expand. Often we say that the church has expanded. Actually, this term is not that scriptural. The church does not expand; it should only grow. Something that has no life can be said to expand, but something with life should grow. When we speak of a nation, we can say that it expands. This is because a nation is an organization; it is not an organism. But when we speak of the church, we should speak of growth, because the church is the Body of Christ. It is organic, and not organizational.

Because the church needs the growth, and because we all have to arrive at a full-grown man, being full of the measure of the stature of the fullness of Christ, we need to know how the Body of Christ grows.
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pehkay, excellent sharings but I could not agree with many opinions of...this author or you?

God is both visible and invisible, We can praise Him in our ways, but we are limited by our finite minds. So is the Church - His body.
Ephesians explain about body of Christ, and we are part of this Body. True it is. But no where in the Bible it says the Church is an invisible body constituted by people only, without a building.

Matthew 18:15-18 Dealing With Sin in the Church
15 “If your brother or sister[a] sins, go and point out their fault, just between the two of you. If they listen to you, you have won them over. 16 But if they will not listen, take one or two others along, so that ‘every matter may be established by the testimony of two or three witnesses.’[c] 17 [B]If they still refuse to listen, tell it to the church; and if they refuse to listen even to the church, treat them as you would a pagan or a tax collector.

18 “Truly I tell you, whatever you bind on earth will be[d] bound in heaven, and whatever you loose on earth will be[e] loosed in heaven.

In Jn 14:6 - I am the Way, The Truth, and the Life. The meaning is not merely ethical "truth," but "truth" in all its fullness and scope, as embodied in Him; He was the perfect expression of the truth, not merely verbal, but sincerity and integrity of character. and He established the Church. .

It is both physical and spiritual and some who are not in the physical Church have been made partakers of Christ through their conversion and Christian baptism. It still doesn't change the fact that there is the Building , the Household.

1 Timothy 3:15 in case I am delayed, so that you may know how to behave in God's household, which is the church of the living God, the pillar and foundation of the truth.

That is why, we also come to gather in worship, in the Church.




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QUOTE(Jedi @ Feb 1 2013, 04:39 PM)
pehkay, excellent sharings but I could not agree with many opinions of...this author or you?

God is both visible and invisible, We can praise Him in our ways, but we are limited by our finite minds. So is the Church - His body.
Ephesians explain about body of Christ, and we are part of this Body. True it is. But no where in the Bible it says the Church is an invisible body constituted by people only, without a building.

Matthew 18:15-18 Dealing With Sin in the Church
15 “If your brother or sister[a] sins, go and point out their fault, just between the two of you. If they listen to you, you have won them over. 16 But if they will not listen, take one or two others along, so that ‘every matter may be established by the testimony of two or three witnesses.’[c] 17 [B]If they still refuse to listen, tell it to the church; and if they refuse to listen even to the church, treat them as you would a pagan or a tax collector.

18 “Truly I tell you, whatever you bind on earth will be[d] bound in heaven, and whatever you loose on earth will be[e] loosed in heaven.

In Jn 14:6 - I am the Way, The Truth, and the Life. The meaning is not merely ethical "truth," but "truth" in all its fullness and scope, as embodied in Him; He was the perfect expression of the truth, not merely verbal, but sincerity and integrity of character. and He established the Church. .

It is both physical and spiritual and some who are not in the physical Church have been made partakers of Christ through their conversion and Christian baptism. It still doesn't change the fact that there is the Building , the Household.

1 Timothy 3:15 in case I am delayed, so that you may know how to behave in God's household, which is the church of the living God, the pillar and foundation of the truth.

That is why, we also come to gather in worship, in the Church.
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Hmm? biggrin.gif I think it is quite clear. There is a need of a physical hall or place for the meeting of the church. But the very definition of church is never a physical building.

The church is the ekklesia, a Greek word referring to the church as the called-out assembly in its most basic definition.

Ephesians speaks particularly of the church and unveils the church in its seven aspects as (1) the Body of Christ, the fullness, the expression, of the One who fills all in all (v. 23; 4:13); (2) the new man (2:15), a corporate man, having not only the life of Christ but also His person; (3) the kingdom of God (2:19), with the saints as citizens possessing its rights and bearing its responsibilities; (4) the household of God (2:19), a family full of life and enjoyment; (5) the dwelling place of God, in which He may live (2:21-22) — universally, a holy temple in the Lord, and locally, the dwelling place of God in our spirit; (6) the bride, the wife, of Christ (5:24-25) for Christ's rest and satisfaction; and (7) the warrior (6:11-12), a corporate fighter, who deals with and defeats God's enemy to accomplish God's eternal purpose.

“You yourselves also, as living stones, are being built up as a spiritual house into a holy priesthood to offer up spiritual sacrifices acceptable to God through Jesus Christ” (1 Pet. 2:5).

Romans 16:5 “And greet the church, which is in their house.” “Their” refers to Prisca and Aquila mentioned in verse 3. Here the fact is simple. The church in Rome, like hundreds and thousands of other local churches, first started in the house of a brother. We can't greet a building smile.gif

1 Cor 1:2 says, “To the church of God which is in Corinth, to those who have been sanctified in Christ Jesus, called saints.” According to grammar, “to the church of God” is in apposition to “to those who have been sanctified in Christ Jesus.” This indicates that “to the church of God” equals “to those who have been sanctified in Christ Jesus.” This strongly indicates that the church is a composition of the saints, and the saints are the constituents of the church. The two should not be considered separate entities. Individually, we are the saints; corporately, we are the church. Thus, the church is not only constituted of God, but is also composed of the saints.

Hebrews 3:6 But Christ was faithful as a Son over His house, whose house we are if indeed we hold fast the boldness and the boast of hope firm to the end.

Ephesians 2:19 So then you are no longer strangers and sojourners, but you are fellow citizens with the saints and members of the household of God,

1 Peter 4:17 For it is time for the judgment to begin from the house of God; and if first from us, what will be the end of those who disobey the gospel of God?


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QUOTE(pehkay @ Feb 1 2013, 05:01 PM)
The church is the ekklesia, a Greek word referring to the church as the called-out assembly in its most basic definition.

1 Cor 1:2 says, “To the church of God which is in Corinth, to those who have been sanctified in Christ Jesus, called saints.” According to grammar, “to the church of God” is in apposition to “to those who have been sanctified in Christ Jesus.” This indicates that “to the church of God” equals “to those who have been sanctified in Christ Jesus.” This strongly indicates that the church is a composition of the saints, and the saints are the constituents of the church. The two should not be considered separate entities. Individually, we are the saints; corporately, we are the church. Thus, the church is not only constituted of God, but is also composed of the saints.


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yes, that sounds more like it smile.gif

on ekklesia,

FIRST USAGE OF THE WORD
Acts 9:31 (Greek)
ἡ μεν ουν εκκλησια καθ᾽ὁλης της ιουδαιας και γαλιλαιας και σαμαρειας ειχεν ειρηνην οικοδομουμενη και πορευομενη τω φοβω του κυριου, και τη παρακλησει του ἁγιου πνευματος επληθυνοντο.

Acts 9:31 (Greek Bible), "ai men oun ekklēsiai kath olēs tēs ioudaias kai galilaias kai samareias eichon eirēnēn oikodomoumenai kai poreuomenai tō phobō tou kuriou kai tē paraklēsei tou agiou pneumatos eplēthunonto"
EKKLESIA ....KATH' OLES.
(CHURCH ....CATHOLIC)

for this reason alone, I believe all Christians are part of the Church Catholic: regardless of denominations and faith communities, bec we are all rooted in Christ, and this Church is Universal, as u have said, composed of the saints and of God.

And yes, bro unknown warrior said before, God restores all denominations one by one. smile.gif
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QUOTE(Jedi @ Feb 1 2013, 05:27 PM)
yes, that sounds more like it  smile.gif

on ekklesia,

FIRST USAGE OF THE WORD
Acts 9:31 (Greek)
ἡ μεν ουν εκκλησια καθ᾽ὁλης της ιουδαιας και γαλιλαιας και σαμαρειας ειχεν ειρηνην οικοδομουμενη και πορευομενη τω φοβω του κυριου, και τη παρακλησει του ἁγιου πνευματος επληθυνοντο.

Acts 9:31 (Greek Bible), "ai men oun ekklēsiai kath olēs tēs ioudaias kai galilaias kai samareias eichon eirēnēn oikodomoumenai kai poreuomenai tō phobō tou kuriou kai tē paraklēsei tou agiou pneumatos eplēthunonto"
EKKLESIA ....KATH' OLES.
(CHURCH ....CATHOLIC)

for this reason alone, I believe all Christians are part of the Church Catholic: regardless of denominations and faith communities, bec we are all rooted in Christ, and this Church is Universal, as u have said, composed of the saints and of God.

And yes, bro unknown warrior said before, God restores all denominations one by one.  smile.gif
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I will question that Greek rendering ... as "church through out". Since the word "KATH' OLES' didn’t modify the word church but they indicate unto where the peace was being enjoyed.

Anyway, since at that time (Acts 9:31) the church had spread only to the provinces of Judea, Galilee, and Samaria, and since the word whole covers all the places where the church existed, church in singular is used here in the universal sense, although there must have been churches in the local sense in a number of the cities of these three provinces.

Cheers!

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yes you are right smile.gif in english it means: Universal

keep your sharings coming. I enjoy them smile.gif when I dont agree, as usual, I try to bring it out in a civil friendly manner for discuss. I believe your journey of faith is much more than mine, and hence, it is good to learn rclxms.gif
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Can you support this with scriptures?
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QUOTE(Jedi @ Feb 1 2013, 05:27 PM)
And yes, bro unknown warrior said before, God restores all denominations one by one.  smile.gif
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Yes that is true, God is restoring His Church denomination by denomination that is why there are denominations today.
This is a revelatory answer to your question. Something you questioned God about.

But when you said only the Catholic Church is given the fullness of Truth, then it contradicts what you said earlier. I don't know if you're confuse with what you've said or I'm missing something you've said.

Because if you insist only the Catholic Church is ordained with the fullness of God's revelation then this is something I don't agree because by the same token you're implying other denominations only receive incomplete truth.

That is why I kept silence over it, not to go into another argument.


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Just remember tis women on video Patricia King



Full Gospel Businessman singapore organize a meeting with Patricia King. Tis women has gemstones appear in her meeting. Even in malaysia u can ask churches like DUMC, Glad Tidings, FGA, PJCC, Trinity Community Church, Full Gospel Businesman Malaysia whether they believe tis manifestation are true. I think even NECF believe. So all these ppl are wrong?
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My advise to you is that,

Don't mind prophetjul,

He/She always have this paranoia of false prophet/false messiah.


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QUOTE(pehkay @ Feb 1 2013, 05:54 PM)
I will question that Greek rendering ... as "church through out". Since the word "KATH' OLES' didn’t modify the word church but they indicate unto where the peace was being enjoyed.

Anyway, since at that time (Acts 9:31) the church had spread only to the provinces of Judea, Galilee, and Samaria, and since the word whole covers all the places where the church existed, church in singular is used here in the universal sense, although there must have been churches in the local sense in a number of the cities of these three provinces.

Cheers!
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I believe Catholic take this meaning of "Universal" in a different light.

IMO, God ordained local Churches.

Why? For practical sense. It is important because when there's marriage or funeral, Who you're gonna call to bless the ceremony? A "universal" Pastor? I mean You need to grow in a local Church. To have universal Church/Pastor means you're not rooted anywhere and loosely means you're not grounded either.

Yes When we meet other believers outside of our Local Church, we have a common brethren hood, believing in the same God, universal in this sense.

We are the body of Christ in this universal sense.

In the Book of revelation, Jesus threat the 7 Churches differently. Different Church needs different administration. If there is such a things as a Universal Church, Jesus would have applied a common warning to all the 7 Churches.

I believe we are united by the same God. There's unity in diversity. That is the uniqueness of Christendom.

But to imply Catholic (Universal) Churches encompass and overshadowing the majority in the universal sense.....this one I leave it to each individual takes. As for me, I do not have the peace to accept such doctrine.

ps: actually I'm not pointing this post to you but to the Catholics. Sorry, had to borrow your post.

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Interesting sites indeed... i think The Lord put in my heart: Let's write only when you have permission from Holy Spirit.

Can't hear holy spirit, don't worry. Use your faith. Just trust in The Lord.

If the Lord ask you to write boldly... then write...
If the Lord ask you to write article... then write...

If the Lord didn't lead you anything, and you think somebody is trolling in this kopitiam... remember... no leading from holy spirit means no action...

this is what prophetzul saying yesterday: submit and obey God day after day :-)

Have a blessed day bro n sis... Berjalan dalam ketepatan
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sure boh??? i think in some ways only

does not apply to where to eat, where to stay, where to work or even who to marry

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QUOTE(unknown warrior @ Feb 1 2013, 11:57 PM)
Yes that is true, God is restoring His Church denomination by denomination that is why there are denominations today.
This is a revelatory answer to your question. Something you questioned God about.

But when you said only the Catholic Church is given the fullness of Truth, then it contradicts what you said earlier. I don't know if you're confuse with what you've said or I'm missing something you've said.

Because if you insist only the Catholic Church is ordained with the fullness of God's revelation then this is something I don't agree because by the same token you're implying other denominations only receive incomplete truth.

That is why I kept silence over it, not to go into another argument.
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hmmm, when I mean the word fullness,

He that hath the bride is the bridegroom: but the friend of the bridegroom, which standeth and heareth him, rejoiceth greatly because of the bridegroom's voice: this my joy therefore is fulfilled. [John 3:29]

"Then the kingdom of heaven will be like ten virgins who took their lamps and went out to meet the bridegroom."[Mt 25:1-13]

Let us be glad and rejoice, and give honour to him: for the marriage of the Lamb is come, and his wife hath made herself ready. [Revelation 19:7]

And I John saw the holy city, new Jerusalem, coming down from God out of heaven, prepared as a bride adorned for her husband. ... And there came unto me one of the seven angels which had the seven vials full of the seven last plagues, and talked with me, saying, Come hither, I will shew thee the bride, the Lamb's wife. And he carried me away in the spirit to a great and high mountain, and shewed me that great city, the holy Jerusalem, descending out of heaven from God, [Revelation 21:2,9-10]



It means, one day, everyone in heaven will be Catholic = Kath o les *universal*, one in belief, not just rooted in Christ, but in all beliefs, in Full Communion with each other.

However this is only possible after 2nd Coming and in heaven.

What belief it is? regarding saints, Mary, Eucharist etc etc, in heaven, all will be one in agreement.

That was my point. In the end, we will be in heaven, as ONE in total. smile.gif of course, we should not argue further among ourselves. For we are all fools for Christ.


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I find listening to gospel music and Christian rock really moves inside me, I totally can feel it. Some songs make me cry, some songs make me just want to shout it out loud. I always remind myself that faith is the key to be in His grace.
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I find listening to gospel music and Christian rock really moves inside me, I totally can feel it. Some songs make me cry, some songs make me just want to shout it out loud. I always remind myself that faith is the key to be in His grace.
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Nice! Song bands like Fireflight and Skillet are my favorite, the message is clear and deep. Definitely can relate with my current life. smile.gif
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QUOTE(Mike3300 @ Feb 2 2013, 10:28 AM)
Nice! Song bands like Fireflight and Skillet are my favorite, the message is clear and deep. Definitely can relate with my current life. smile.gif
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the song "not what you see" is good.

Keep on tuning yourself to Christian music.

There is power in it to keep you focus.

I've left secular music ever since I've discovered a wide range of Christian Music world.

Never did touch any of it ever since because on the subconscious level it vibrates on hatred and promiscuity.


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QUOTE(squarepilot @ Feb 2 2013, 12:48 AM)
sure boh??? i think in some ways only

does not apply to where to eat, where to stay, where to work or even who to marry
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It's for our own good that we trust him: Cuz he know the future. let me gv u 1 sample. eating.

who knows in the future, that your food is prepared properly ? i would like to eat where the place is clean. it's impossible for me to inspect the kitchen everytime i go to restaurant, and examine the hygieni of the food preparation. But Holy spirit knows everything. As i know restaurant business :-) trust me, it's not as hygiene as most people think hahahah...

same apply to where to stay, work and who to marry.





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By examining the historic meaning and purposes of rocks and stones mentioned in the Bible, it becomes apparent that the gemstone wall surrounding New Jerusalem is actually a graphic picture of the gifts given to the Church through salvation.

Just as all of creation speaks of our Creator, the study of Revelation's gemstone wall reveals important truths needed for your journey toward spiritual maturity in the Kingdom of God.

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GIFTS given to the church?

Thats a new one to me! wink.gif

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11And I saw a great white throne, and him that sat on it, from whose face the earth and the heaven fled away; and there was found no place for them.

12And I saw the dead, small and great, stand before God; and the books were opened: and another book was opened, which is the book of life: and the dead were judged out of those things which were written in the books, according to their works.

13And the sea gave up the dead which were in it; and death and hell delivered up the dead which were in them: and they were judged every man according to their works.

14And death and hell were cast into the lake of fire. This is the second death.

15And whosoever was not found written in the book of life was cast into the lake of fire.

1And I saw a new heaven and a new earth: for the first heaven and the first earth were passed away; and there was no more sea.

2And I John saw the holy city, new Jerusalem, coming down from God out of heaven, prepared as a bride adorned for her husband.

3And I heard a great voice out of heaven saying, Behold, the tabernacle of God is with men, and he will dwell with them, and they shall be his people, and God himself shall be with them, and be their God.

19And the foundations of the wall of the city were garnished with all manner of precious stones. The first foundation was jasper; the second, sapphire; the third, a chalcedony; the fourth, an emerald;

20The fifth, sardonyx; the sixth, sardius; the seventh, chrysolyte; the eighth, beryl; the ninth, a topaz; the tenth, a chrysoprasus; the eleventh, a jacinth; the twelfth, an amethyst.

The last 2 chapters of the bible shews the judgemnet of mankind........

There s NO NEED of gifts in the church ANYOMRE at this time.
Why jewels and precious stones? It depicts the perfected BEAUTIFUL BRIDE already prepared for the bridegroom.
NO MORE NEED of gifts! biggrin.gif

What are gifts for?

12For the perfecting of the saints, for the work of the ministry, for the edifying of the body of Christ:

13Till we all come in the unity of the faith, and of the knowledge of the Son of God, unto a perfect man, unto the measure of the stature of the fulness of Christ:

At that point of time, if you STILL needed the gifts, you will be in trouble! nod.gif
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QUOTE(Z1000 @ Feb 1 2013, 03:55 PM)


Just remember tis women on video Patricia King



Full Gospel Businessman singapore organize a meeting with Patricia King. Tis women has gemstones appear in her meeting. Even in malaysia u can ask churches like DUMC, Glad Tidings, FGA, PJCC, Trinity Community Church, Full Gospel Businesman Malaysia whether they believe tis manifestation are true. I think even NECF believe. So all these ppl are wrong?
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Angels singing?

i see A bunch of homosapiens blabbering something which is of NO edification to anyone

Of Patricia King

Another Ecstacy pill?

http://www.alittleleaven.com/2012/10/patri...s-her-mind.html

http://slaughteringthesheep.wordpress.com/...sions-of-jesus/

........ another false prophet associated with the infamous false and adulterous prophet Todd Bentley....

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