sure boh??? i think in some ways only

does not apply to where to eat, where to stay, where to work or even who to marry

This post has been edited by squarepilot: Feb 2 2013, 12:58 AM

and so not everytime the holy spirit will lead us where to eat right? if i got to listen and follow the holy spirit all the time, i would not be doing my studies and responsibility right now.. its also can be said that NOT all christians must the moved by the holy spirit every time, but to remind us to do good deeds in remembrance of jesus Christ

This post has been edited by squarepilot: Feb 3 2013, 04:01 PM

may i ask why ar? is it because the bible is already complete and replace the gift of holy spirit? because my church told me this... any1 to clarify on this matter?

looks like i missed alot of things here lately...

why cant we reason with God? its like arguing with your dad right.... decision is still already made by dad, but should we have the reason to know why he is acting this way... in this case we just wanna have more explanation from Him, no?

fully obedience is a blind faith.... and can be easily sway away by others..... dont you agree? .... please enlighten me

7 characteristics to Faith

Faith is knowledge and trust. It has seven characteristics:

Faith is a sheer gift of God, which we receive when we fervently ask for it. - unless you mention 1 john 5:11-13. which i agree on. ..... nope some of them incl still havent personally received personal assurance in terms of intervention from Him.

Faith is the supernatural power that is absolutely necessary if we are to attain salvation. ok this i agree

Faith requires the free will and clear understanding of a person when he accepts the divine invitation. this part is tricky as predestined and freewill stuff ok lets dont mention those about it

Faith is absolutely certain, because Jesus guarantees it. i agree if Jesus is not a canman by himself

Faith is incomplete unless it leads to active love. totally agreed

Faith grows when we listen more and more carefully to God’s Word and enter a lively exchange with him in prayer. i am trying on this, so far no progress

Faith gives us even now a foretaste of the joy of heaven.


If a parachutist asks the clerk at the airport, “Is the parachute packed safely?” and the other man answers casually, “Hmm, I believe so”, then that will not be enough for him; he would like to know it for sure.

But if he asked a friend to pack the parachute, then the friend will answer the same question by saying, “Yes, I did it personally. You can trust me!” And to that the parachutist will reply, “Yes, I believe you.” This belief is much more than knowing; it means assurance.

by the story you telling me... you are trying to prove that all we need to do is to accept Christ as our personal savior. but what happens when the friend of parachutist is just trying to betray him? and how to know that his friend are truth worthy? anything to prove besides the bible?

because bible is true if and only if jesus if true, and we can't really use it as a instrument to test the validity of jesus because it is written for him....

i feel that we should be at least given enough wisdom and knowledge to accept His action towards us. much wisdom is needed but i felt that every1 was even insufficiently