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post Dec 7 2012, 08:13 AM


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More news about Vios 2013

http://www.cbt.com.my/2012/12/06/2013-toyota-vios-spyshots/
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post Dec 7 2012, 08:29 AM


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The 3rd picture has a front grill like Altis. Not bad.
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post Dec 7 2012, 08:45 AM


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The 3rd picture is an Auris la....
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post Dec 7 2012, 08:54 AM


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first picture, front bonet like forte, front bumper like inspira, rim like preve.

issit just me? hmm.gif
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post Dec 7 2012, 08:55 AM


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Is it just me or did Toyota manage to out-ugly the dugong? Just my personal opinion, I think the current dugong looks better.
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post Dec 7 2012, 09:00 AM


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actually no need new model, current one still sell like hot char siew bao
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QUOTE(katijar @ Dec 7 2012, 09:00 AM)
actually no need new model, current one still sell like hot char siew bao
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but next year will be tough as competition of Kia Rio and Chevy Sonic, hence cheaper pricing...
i guess Toyota need somethings to surprise us...
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QUOTE(gkl83 @ Dec 7 2012, 09:11 AM)
but next year will be tough as competition of Kia Rio and Chevy Sonic, hence cheaper pricing...
i guess Toyota need somethings to surprise us...
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post Dec 7 2012, 09:19 AM


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QUOTE(gkl83 @ Dec 7 2012, 09:11 AM)
but next year will be tough as competition of Kia Rio and Chevy Sonic, hence cheaper pricing...
i guess Toyota need somethings to surprise us...
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no need.. uncle aunty n neighbour will still ask u.. why no buy vios? when u drove home a kia rio or chevy sonic
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QUOTE(K3nnYkl82 @ Dec 7 2012, 09:19 AM)
no need.. uncle aunty n neighbour will still ask u.. why no buy vios? when u drove home a kia rio or chevy sonic
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maybe i reply them "Vios for uncle aunty" tongue.gif
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post Dec 7 2012, 09:47 AM


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QUOTE(K3nnYkl82 @ Dec 7 2012, 09:19 AM)
no need.. uncle aunty n neighbour will still ask u.. why no buy vios? when u drove home a kia rio or chevy sonic
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When I took my Fofi to my GF's house, her family ask me issit cheaper than a Myvi, and when they know how much it costs, they ask me why no buy Toyoda.

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QUOTE(dares @ Dec 7 2012, 09:47 AM)
YALAR

When I took my Fofi to my GF's house, her family ask me issit cheaper than a Myvi, and when they know how much it costs, they ask me why no buy Toyoda.

Regret  Regret  Regret  sad.gif
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same to my parent in law owned very old Honda accord, even retired still want to afford another new Honda no matter how...

Guess is the branding is there... same like current situation buying home appliance, Samsung rules the market and everyone talk about it... smile.gif
Also same goes to Potong, all of my colleague and neighour asked me to say NO and "good luck" to me... sweat.gif
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post Dec 7 2012, 10:12 AM


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QUOTE(gkl83 @ Dec 7 2012, 09:53 AM)
same to my parent in law owned very old Honda accord, even retired still want to afford another new Honda no matter how...

Guess is the branding is there... same like current situation buying home appliance, Samsung rules the market and everyone talk about it...  smile.gif
Also same goes to Potong, all of my colleague and neighour asked me to say NO and "good luck" to me... sweat.gif
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my in law ask me the same question ma..
they have the god like car..
but after 1 year ++ now.. they stay to says my car much comfort and spacious... nvh also better...

if they were not my inlaws.. i will tell themm... then why ask me buy vios! tongue.gif
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post Dec 7 2012, 10:36 AM


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QUOTE(dares @ Dec 7 2012, 09:47 AM)
YALAR

When I took my Fofi to my GF's house, her family ask me issit cheaper than a Myvi, and when they know how much it costs, they ask me why no buy Toyoda.

Regret  Regret  Regret  sad.gif
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lol
my in law bought a j vios, probably his last car in his life, dream car
ask me why no buy vios oso, i took purposely fetch him for a drive to nearby use my low resale value kimchi forte brows.gif

i oso shoot him, since you take so long to get a vios, and you will own and pay this car very long, and you probably have no buy car anymore, why u need resale value?
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but then, toyoda will still sell like hot cakes, even almost all car are better than it. their reputation are still part of their hardwork for years anyway. thumbup.gif



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QUOTE(dvinez @ Dec 7 2012, 10:36 AM)
lol
my in law bought a j vios, probably his last car in his life, dream car
ask me why no buy vios oso, i took purposely fetch him for a drive to nearby use my low resale value kimchi forte  brows.gif

i oso shoot him, since you take so long to get a vios, and you will own and pay this car very long, and you probably have no buy car anymore, why u need resale value?
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but then, toyoda will still sell like hot cakes, even almost all car are better than it. their reputation are still part of their hardwork for years anyway.  thumbup.gif
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agreed... biggrin.gif

the ppl stick with T&H is due to the branding & reputation only...
simple... you want to buy home appliance, u think for Sumsung; you want to eat fast food, u think for McP... tongue.gif

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post Dec 7 2012, 10:54 AM


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QUOTE(gkl83 @ Dec 7 2012, 10:46 AM)
agreed...  biggrin.gif

the ppl stick with T&H is due to the branding & reputation only...
simple... you want to buy home appliance, u think for Sumsung; you want to eat fast food, u think for McP...  tongue.gif
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McPangsai? tongue.gif
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post Dec 7 2012, 10:57 AM


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QUOTE(gkl83 @ Dec 7 2012, 10:46 AM)
agreed...  biggrin.gif

the ppl stick with T&H is due to the branding & reputation only...
simple... you want to buy home appliance, u think for Sumsung; you want to eat fast food, u think for McP...  tongue.gif
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yup, if branding is good, u got more than 50% chance of success already, and also depends on experience i guess.

eg, if i bought my first samsung and got a lemon, i think very high chances i never buy it again sweat.gif so qc/qa is very important!


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QUOTE(gkl83 @ Dec 7 2012, 10:46 AM)
agreed...  biggrin.gif

the ppl stick with T&H is due to the branding & reputation only...
simple... you want to buy home appliance, u think for Sumsung; you want to eat fast food, u think for McP...  tongue.gif
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wan like that meh ... i buy H cuz i like the design leh .. din think of reputation n branding also ... sweat.gif
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QUOTE(xin @ Dec 7 2012, 10:59 AM)
wan like that meh ... i buy H cuz i like the design leh .. din think of reputation n branding also ...  sweat.gif
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Vios and City, City design better, agreed for that time... but now not sure lo... tongue.gif
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QUOTE(xin @ Dec 7 2012, 10:59 AM)
wan like that meh ... i buy H cuz i like the design leh .. din think of reputation n branding also ...  sweat.gif
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among sushi honda design is good
if want buy sushi only, ill take honda over toyota anytime since mazda that kind design i no like, no marah okay mazda friends biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(gkl83 @ Dec 7 2012, 11:08 AM)
Vios and City, City design better, agreed for that time... but now not sure lo...  tongue.gif
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yup i am the person that take in consideration of first impressions. When vios came out, my first impression to it is totally bad so never consider even the pricing is attractive during it first came out. While my first impression to City is gooding so in my consideration list. Then went to test drive and see if i am happy sitting in the car onot. No point if bought a car that is worth the value but the owner not really happy driving it, in the end the car suffer cuz the owner will not have passion to take good care of the car. thumbup.gif
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post Dec 7 2012, 11:22 AM


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QUOTE(xin @ Dec 7 2012, 11:14 AM)
yup i am the person that take in consideration of first impressions. When vios came out, my first impression to it is totally bad so never consider even the pricing is attractive during it first came out. While my first impression to City is gooding so in my consideration list. Then went to test drive and see if i am happy sitting in the car onot. No point if bought a car that is worth the value but the owner not really happy driving it, in the end the car suffer cuz the owner will not have passion to take good care of the car.  thumbup.gif
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city like bmw from back, body curve and grill, looks so outstanding, all those give me a wow when i see it first time on the road rclxm9.gif

yup no point buying a car based on limitation like value, brand, specs if you dont like to see it everyday. shortlist a few you love and then choose better. biggrin.gif
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post Dec 7 2012, 12:03 PM


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some ppl - buy car happy happy; sell car sad sad... it's a fact.
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QUOTE(katijar @ Dec 7 2012, 12:03 PM)
some ppl - buy car happy happy; sell car sad sad... it's a fact.
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depends on the car?

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QUOTE(katijar @ Dec 7 2012, 12:03 PM)
some ppl - buy car happy happy; sell car sad sad... it's a fact.
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yup agree, i felt so reluctant to sell my old car last time. Luckily sold to a close friend, so i can still go and 'admire' my ex-car once a while ... tongue.gif
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QUOTE(junbecks @ Dec 7 2012, 12:07 PM)
depends on the car?
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for vios, i think buy car - ok saje; sell car - happy happy.
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QUOTE(katijar @ Dec 7 2012, 12:14 PM)
for vios, i think buy car - ok saje; sell car - happy happy.
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this is a good point, as long owner is happy, what oso can icon_rolleyes.gif
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hey guys, just put in it this way..u look at ur wife, and u think hey she's gorgeous or nice looking also wat... but to other ppl, is that a monkey or hippo?.. so u get it?

ur honda or forte or wateva maybe be nice for u but not to others..we want tohear about new info not about praising own car for own satisfaction.. yeah yeah we know u bought the "best" car for yourself and u're happy for that.... hmm ok. now u feel good rite?


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anyway i dont drive a potong or T or H or K or HY biggrin.gif...


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post Dec 7 2012, 12:52 PM


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Get prepared to see this in coming “Top non-national selling car” for a few years.
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lol... dont emo la, its not the best car just buy a car you comfy with ... tongue.gif cuz i dont agree each T or H buyer must be going for brand or reputation, there are still some minority ppl who are not.
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QUOTE(K3nnYkl82 @ Dec 7 2012, 09:19 AM)
no need.. uncle aunty n neighbour will still ask u.. why no buy vios? when u drove home a kia rio or chevy sonic
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this is very true..no matter how bad looking or outdated features and tech they will say it is GOD car.
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buy this sure many aunty unker approve when i bring their daughter out wink.gif
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luckily my parents are not in that bunch, they told me vios is ugly.. and Prius butt looks weird...
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QUOTE(ImUrDaddY @ Dec 7 2012, 12:51 PM)
hey guys, just put in it this way..u look at ur wife, and u think hey she's gorgeous or nice looking also wat... but to other ppl, is that a monkey or hippo?.. so u get it?

ur honda or forte or wateva maybe be nice for u but not to others..we want tohear about new info not about praising own car for own satisfaction.. yeah yeah we know u bought the "best" car for yourself and u're happy for that.... hmm ok. now u feel good rite?
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anyway i dont drive a potong or T or H  or K or HY biggrin.gif...
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HAHAHA...i'd rather get a so so wife in terms of look but low maintenance..than a gorgeous wife but high maintenance, every month demand gold ring,eat at expensive restaurants..demam wooooo




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QUOTE(Kelrys @ Dec 7 2012, 08:29 AM)
The 3rd picture has a front grill like Altis. Not bad.
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lol i cant believe someone would actually love vios just because of front grill like Altis.

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post Dec 8 2012, 08:21 AM


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QUOTE(wordtalks @ Dec 7 2012, 11:08 PM)
lol i cant believe someone would actually love vios just because of front grill like Altis.
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lol i cant believe someone would make that assumption.
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QUOTE(leftist @ Dec 7 2012, 05:23 PM)
HAHAHA...i'd rather get a so so wife in terms of look but low maintenance..than a gorgeous wife but high maintenance, every month demand gold ring,eat at expensive restaurants..demam wooooo
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+1, agree on this too.. but wanna have both, good looking car n low maintenance = protong maybe ?
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when you have enough money you wont think like that, you want to have both brows.gif
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the looks of the new vios feels like sex thumbup.gif thumbup.gif
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the looks of the new vios feels like sex  thumbup.gif  thumbup.gif
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seriously? shocking.gif
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When I saw the new VIOS. No wow factor!
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When this new vios going to be out?
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New bodykit only lar... if it were an all new version (which is long overdue, the next gen hatchback has been out for almost 3 years or so!) there should be spy shots of a new Vios sedan out there. There aren't, so they'll just add a body kit or change the design a bit or something like that. Maybe updated specs.
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QUOTE(kadajawi @ Jan 6 2013, 10:37 PM)
New bodykit only lar... if it were an all new version (which is long overdue, the next gen hatchback has been out for almost 3 years or so!) there should be spy shots of a new Vios sedan out there. There aren't, so they'll just add a body kit or change the design a bit or something like that. Maybe updated specs.
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the spy shots have mention about the center console meter drool.gif
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Where got spyshots?

Center console meter? You mean meter is still in the center? Then it is the old one.

This is the "new" Yaris.
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What is special about centre console meter? It darn awful and distracting.
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http://paultan.org/2013/01/08/toyota-vios-...gen/vios-spy-4/ !
The new Vios will be based on the new Yaris! So this one is a big one.

http://paultan.org/2013/01/08/toyota-vios-...ming-third-gen/

AFAIK they improved it a lot, so it might actually be a good car. Depending on how stingy Toyota is with the specs.

The interior looks less funky than in the Yaris, but it doesn't look too bad.

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QUOTE(kadajawi @ Jan 6 2013, 11:05 PM)
Where got spyshots?

Center console meter? You mean meter is still in the center? Then it is the old one.

This is the "new" Yaris.
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is this new model Vios 2013 got Start/off button function and keyless? As i can see it from above picture??

Normally it will be install to the car which higher price (100k and above), this is good thing also thumbup.gif rclxms.gif
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That pic is the Yaris, the Vios gets a different interior. How the specs will be we don't know. Standard specs for the Yaris are 7 to 9 airbags (depending on region), VSC stability control and traction control.

Optional stuff includes satnav with touchscreen, disc brakes at the back, automatic aircon. Start-stop feature (engine turns off when not moving).

Engine options are a 1.0 with 69 hp and a 1.33 with 99 hp, as well as a 1.4 diesel with 90 hp. CVT or manual. Medium spec has 16", highest spec 15".

Anyones guess what we will actually get. Probably some big old engine and a 4 speed, plus 2 airbags and no stability control.
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why new Vios no center meter ?!!!! RAGE !!!!
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QUOTE(kadajawi @ Jan 6 2013, 11:05 PM)
Where got spyshots?

Center console meter? You mean meter is still in the center? Then it is the old one.

This is the "new" Yaris.
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This console same ah with the PaulTan spyshot one? Looks different one.
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Ho google and search the centre console meter still remain as center smile.gif
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QUOTE(wba1889 @ Dec 7 2012, 08:13 AM)
not nice... shakehead.gif
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This console same ah with the PaulTan spyshot one? Looks different one.
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Different. But the basic layout is the same. Look closely, while the design has changed you can see it is the same. Like here:
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It is the same car, but Merc decided to redesign the dashboard so people won't notice it's a Renault. laugh.gif (After all people have to spend RM 10k more for the badge and a less comfortable suspension). Vents are at similar places, gearlever is at the same place, etc.

The Yaris is probably aimed at a younger audience, who want a funkier interior. It is quite similar in design to the Prius C, which got quite a bit of criticism here. So they decided to make it closer to the Altis, to make it look classier (I wonder where they'd put in a touchscreen HU... certainly won't fit in as nicely as in the Yaris). To be honest I think it's not bad. 3 different materials if I'm not mistaken. Toyota might want to respond to the Fiesta, Polo and Rio and give it some proper safety equipment. They easily could. If they do it, I think they can almost crush their competition. Even I would consider it. All depends on the specs.

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Toyota Vios 2013 Rendering

this one look nice

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The new Vios has finally been captured in live photos.

Location: Thailand
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Apparently, it's now set for a March launch.

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Thank goodness for small mercies! At least it doesn't look anything like that horrendous looking Toyota Etios or there would be a mass eyesore on the roads.
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The new Vios has finally been captured in live photos.

Location: Thailand
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Apparently, it's now set for a March launch.

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Thank goodness for small mercies! At least it doesn't look anything like that horrendous looking Toyota Etios or there would be a mass eyesore on the roads.
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Looks kinda sleek and bigger than the current vios. But on the road with no disguise at all?is this for real?
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Looks kinda sleek and bigger than the current vios. But on the road with no disguise at all?is this for real?
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FB comments from the Thais have said the car was revealed and caught on camera during a TV commercial shoot. If those comments are reliable then yes, this is pretty much the real deal.
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Looks damn nice! Beats the ugly k3 hands down. I wouldnt mind to drive this everyday man!!! Cant wait!
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Front look is fresh and new, rear part not that attractive, overall, much better than current dugong face
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With this design and wearing Toyota badge, should be selling well in Malaysia market...Almera or City will offer big discount soon
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The new Vios has finally been captured in live photos.

Location: Thailand
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Apparently, it's now set for a March launch.

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Thank goodness for small mercies! At least it doesn't look anything like that horrendous looking Toyota Etios or there would be a mass eyesore on the roads.
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you guys are so happy oh... haha

Quite look nice the all new Vios car... drool.gif

But we don't know about the car of interior hmm.gif
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Not as pretty as the K3, but for a Toyota quite good. Though that's, well, we are talking about Toyota after all.

It really was about time. We will have to see if it is worth the money though, I think it will be quite empty and outdated inside.
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Behind look so like the Nissan Almera doh.gif
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Ps: Good bye RV for the Dugong. The first Vios held up nicely cause it was a better made car, with similar tech, and a nicer design. In terms of design at least the new one will easily beat the Dugong.
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Not as pretty as the K3, but for a Toyota quite good. Though that's, well, we are talking about Toyota after all.

It really was about time. We will have to see if it is worth the money though, I think it will be quite empty and outdated inside.
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New Sports Hybrid coming as well?

Too bad, until Malaysia introduces lemon laws and stricter road safety laws, we'd still be milked badly by Toyota Asia. Just look at the other ASEAN countries, the car specs are just as bad. Although Thai version do enjoy a lot of additional options.
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Can Toyota even drastically improve the cars/specs? I mean, then resale value of their older models would suffer. If the resale value suffers, one of the most important "features" of a Toyota goes away. Why buy a Toyota then?

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I think they have to improve the car specs. They can still offer the same junk they do right now

But look at the KIA Rio, Ford Fiesta. Heck, even the Honda City now has VSC, and Suzuki isn't a marque to discount out as well. All of them are offering better and better specification cars at a competitive price.

It's now 6 years since the current Vios has been introduced. That means previous owners will now either move onto to a C segment or better and there will be a newer crop of younger consumers that *hopefully* are more tech savvy and demand better features. I think buyers is now going to look at the Vios and then look at the Rio and say, why would I want to pay hard earn cash for a kosong Vios?

Looking at how well the Forte performs, I'd say there's a shift in buyer's mentality towards Korean cars. They're now more accepted by the masses.
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Yes. Toyota is in a difficult position. On one hand RV is very important too them. Especially the Vios may not lose value too much. If it does, that would be bad for sales. So people can't look at the Vios and think... wow, this is so great, there is no way I'll buy the Dugong anymore. It has to be bad enough that there is still interest in the old one.

However yes, we have seen on the Camry that a too basic spec will also do bad things to sales. Too much competition these days, and the superiority of contis and to a certain degree even Koreans is just too great. They need to improve a lot to be competitive again.

But if they replace engine etc., people may say: Oh, all new, wonder how reliable it is. At the same time, other brands are already a few generations into their new engines, gearboxes etc., so they are by now proven. First gen DSG horrible, but new ones are fine. etc. The Prius C isn't doing as good as it should, right? Perhaps because it is too modern?

Basically they may have already losts the game, and there is nothing they can do about it. Either way they will lose, the question will be if they can minimize the damage.

I'd try to go a middle way. Full safety spec, you won't want a PR disaster at ASEAN NCAP. They are in a very fortunate position to phase out the current Vios before side impacts happen, something that would hurt Dugong RV very bad (I do hope ASEAN NCAP doesn't care and will test the Dugong anyway). So 6 airbags and ESP is important, you'll want a 5 star rating. Engine stay the same, but replace the gearbox with a 6 speeder. Rest stays the same. 1 year down the road introduce an improved Vios, new, smaller engine, more features inside. Perhaps keep introducing features to reach the competition over time. First as option, then make them standard.
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The new Vios has finally been captured in live photos.

Location: Thailand
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Apparently, it's now set for a March launch.

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Thank goodness for small mercies! At least it doesn't look anything like that horrendous looking Toyota Etios or there would be a mass eyesore on the roads.
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Wonder how will the pricing be like.

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Yes. Toyota is in a difficult position. On one hand RV is very important too them. Especially the Vios may not lose value too much. If it does, that would be bad for sales. So people can't look at the Vios and think... wow, this is so great, there is no way I'll buy the Dugong anymore. It has to be bad enough that there is still interest in the old one.

However yes, we have seen on the Camry that a too basic spec will also do bad things to sales. Too much competition these days, and the superiority of contis and to a certain degree even Koreans is just too great. They need to improve a lot to be competitive again.

But if they replace engine etc., people may say: Oh, all new, wonder how reliable it is. At the same time, other brands are already a few generations into their new engines, gearboxes etc., so they are by now proven. First gen DSG horrible, but new ones are fine. etc. The Prius C isn't doing as good as it should, right? Perhaps because it is too modern?

Basically they may have already losts the game, and there is nothing they can do about it. Either way they will lose, the question will be if they can minimize the damage.

I'd try to go a middle way. Full safety spec, you won't want a PR disaster at ASEAN NCAP. They are in a very fortunate position to phase out the current Vios before side impacts happen, something that would hurt Dugong RV very bad (I do hope ASEAN NCAP doesn't care and will test the Dugong anyway). So 6 airbags and ESP is important, you'll want a 5 star rating. Engine stay the same, but replace the gearbox with a 6 speeder. Rest stays the same. 1 year down the road introduce an improved Vios, new, smaller engine, more features inside. Perhaps keep introducing features to reach the competition over time. First as option, then make them standard.
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Nah, they won't lose. With the new Vios pending, they can easily claim it is a new generation with many new exciting features such as

1. 2 more airbags - that's 2 more from the current model
2. VSC - There's an extra safety feature! Only problem would be they having a harder time explaining why such a feature is omitted from the new Camry.
3. If they do use a new engine, it would probably be the new 1NR-FE engine. The 1NZ-FE has been a solid performer for many years, I can only imagine the 1NR or 2NR-FE to be even better. "New" engine also proven reliability and spots dual VVT-i, can charge premium somemore! biggrin.gif

I suspect the Prius C not doing very well largely due to the car being a hybrid. But it's not exactly a poor seller either, on average I see at least 2 or 3 Prius C on the road everyday.

As long as the car is as good or slightly better than the current Honda City, they will sell.
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Nah, they won't lose. With the new Vios pending, they can easily claim it is a new generation with many new exciting features such as

1. 2 more airbags - that's 2 more from the current model
2. VSC - There's an extra safety feature! Only problem would be they having a harder time explaining why such a feature is omitted from the new Camry.
3. If they do use a new engine, it would probably be the new 1NR-FE engine. The 1NZ-FE has been a solid performer for many years, I can only imagine the 1NR or 2NR-FE to be even better. "New" engine also proven reliability and spots dual VVT-i, can charge premium somemore! biggrin.gif

I suspect the Prius C not doing very well largely due to the car being a hybrid. But it's not exactly a poor seller either, on average I see at least 2 or 3 Prius C on the road everyday.

As long as the car is as good or slightly better than the current Honda City, they will sell.
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I mean Toyota depends on good resale value. A much improved Vios will hurt resale value of the old one, since people would rather top up a bit to get the new one.

Of course despite this there can be strong sales since the new Vios may be quite attractive. But how about long term sales? The good Vios resale value is what sells a ton of Vios, Altis and Camry. It is very important to Toyota.

VSC will soon be standard on all Toyota's (where possible). ASEAN NCAP will ensure that. If this is an entirely new Vios it should be able to get 5 stars, so VSC is needed to really get that rating. 4 airbags are also a must, perhaps 6 in high spec.

Yeah, basically the Prius C is too modern for Malaysians. That is why I think Toyota can't make the Vios too modern, it may alienate potential customers.

Basically they need to carefully balance things in order to keep their carefully crafted reputation and to nudge it in the right direction. Otherwise they will end up another me too car maker in Malaysia.
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Nah, they won't lose. With the new Vios pending, they can easily claim it is a new generation with many new exciting features such as

1. 2 more airbags - that's 2 more from the current model
2. VSC - There's an extra safety feature! Only problem would be they having a harder time explaining why such a feature is omitted from the new Camry.
3. If they do use a new engine, it would probably be the new 1NR-FE engine. The 1NZ-FE has been a solid performer for many years, I can only imagine the 1NR or 2NR-FE to be even better. "New" engine also proven reliability and spots dual VVT-i, can charge premium somemore! biggrin.gif

I suspect the Prius C not doing very well largely due to the car being a hybrid. But it's not exactly a poor seller either, on average I see at least 2 or 3 Prius C on the road everyday.

As long as the car is as good or slightly better than the current Honda City, they will sell.
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make it to have an option of a turbocharged diesel engine 1ND-TV 1.4l i think can have a good fuel consumption..

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With this design and wearing Toyota badge, should be selling well in Malaysia market...Almera or City will offer big discount soon
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with clear pic like tis their own current Vios oso will offer bug disc soon
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Told ya, sell your Vios fast before the RV drops. Now it is almost too late.

Diesel... Would be interesting, but Toyota isn't so strong in terms of diesels, and their typical customers would probably shy away from it. Makes more sense to see that from Ford, VW or Renault (if they launch the Clio). Though diesel IMHO make more sense in big and heavy cars. C segment and above.
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HAHAHA...i'd rather get a so so wife in terms of look but low maintenance..than a gorgeous wife but high maintenance, every month demand gold ring,eat at expensive restaurants..demam wooooo
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I wonder what will be the spec of new VIOS J, the best among its variants.
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nothing surprise. front looks like another Honda insight (Honda insight looks better). Rear looks like Almera belakang kena tumbuk dan bengkak.

Toyota creating this type of car to make fun of south east asia.
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nothing surprise. front looks like another Honda insight (Honda insight looks better).  Rear looks like Almera belakang kena tumbuk dan bengkak.

Toyota creating this type of car to make fun of south east asia.
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What can we do bro? Market not large enough like north america where they can get higher volume. Plus our gov don't make good policy so if it is 1 airbag they can still sell here. To top that off, the higher tax and the AP etc. Sigh.
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In Germany you can sell 0 airbag cars. Right now. Perfectly legal, there are a few on sale like that. A somewhat popular brand comes with 2 airbags as standard, and no ESP, not even optional.

Yet most B segment cars have at least 4, usually 6 or 7 airbags as standard. The A segment VW up! has the city braking feature that now the Mazda 6 2.5 will be getting. As standard in base spec.

It's the market that decides what features will be added or removed.
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What can we do bro? Market not large enough like north america where they can get higher volume. Plus our gov don't make good policy so if it is 1 airbag they can still sell here. To top that off, the higher tax  and the AP etc. Sigh.
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Not as pretty as the K3, but for a Toyota quite good. Though that's, well, we are talking about Toyota after all.

It really was about time. We will have to see if it is worth the money though, I think it will be quite empty and outdated inside.
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The new vios looks a million times betta than the k3. K3 looks like a freaking toad. I cant understand hw u can say the k3 is nice.
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The K3 isn't my favorite B segment car. I don't think it is very pretty. But the Vios isn't either. My pick would be the Clio IV. Damn that's a hot car.
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Car pretty or not pretty is depends on individual. I think k3 is segment C.
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Any toyata sa here?this car will be out in march in mlsy or late quarter of the year?
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Ah yes, got confused there. K3 is C segment of course. Have to compare Vios with Rio. Then the Vios is indeed better looking...
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Any toyata sa here?this car will be out in march in mlsy or late quarter of the year?
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If SA know also they won't tell you anything. It will affect the current Vios sales. Have to keep quiet and sell off all remaining Vios stock before telling you anything. If it is Toyota, we should expect the new Vios here. If new engine and gearbox not enough for the high demand in major customers elsewhere, we'll be getting the same old engine and gearbox.
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According to UMW insider, he said October (Thai is March), but even then he can't be 100% sure.
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I bet the price is higher hehe
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shape is still like vios.. only front and back lamp are changed... that's the problem from japanese car maker...

they didnt attempt to use larger rim,sunroof,lowered body just like kia,hyundai
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shape is still like vios.. only front and back lamp are changed... that's the problem from japanese car maker...

they didnt attempt to use larger rim,sunroof,lowered body just like kia,hyundai
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asian designer, asian taste.. kia & hyundai are now led by orang eropah, hence the styling is more global.

btw the vios isn't meant to be sporty.. they have other models for this purpose.
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When the buying stops, the crap car stops.
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the antenna is back for new vios
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thailand price

All New Vios 2013 has been for every generation.

S model price 734,000.
G model price 699,000.
The E Price 649000.
The JA / T Price 589000.
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Recently I read that the next B segment Toyota (4th gen Yaris I suppose) will be based on the Mazda2, as the Yaris is, well, not well received by reviewers and potential customers. It is not good enough, even though the 3rd gen is already a big improvement over the 2nd gen.

The current Vios is based on the 2nd gen Yaris, the new Vios may be based on the 3rd gen one. Though someone said the pics of the new Vios show a shape closer to the 2nd gen Yaris. Didn't take a close look.
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QUOTE(kadajawi @ Feb 15 2013, 10:45 AM)
Recently I read that the next B segment Toyota (4th gen Yaris I suppose) will be based on the Mazda2, as the Yaris is, well, not well received by reviewers and potential customers. It is not good enough, even though the 3rd gen is already a big improvement over the 2nd gen.

The current Vios is based on the 2nd gen Yaris, the new Vios may be based on the 3rd gen one. Though someone said the pics of the new Vios show a shape closer to the 2nd gen Yaris. Didn't take a close look.
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1. if it is based on mazda2 it should have similar crash test result as fiesta.
http://www.iihs.org/

2. it seems that this 2013 vios looks more like Auris than Yaris.
Auris 2013: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Toyota_Auris
Yaris 3rd gen: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Toyota_Yaris

take a closer look at the door handles position, below the crease.

3. specs. will be a major concern for this vios 2013.

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The 3rd gen Yaris is a relatively safe car too, IIRC.

What I meant is the basic shape. For example look at the Kangoo II, the Kangoo II Phase 2 (facelift coming soon) and the Mercedes Citan. They can only change certain parts from the basic vehicle, but between A and C pillar it is the same car. Maybe doors can be changed, but the basic shape remains the same. Or the Peugeot 206 vs the 206+ and Malaysian 207, and the Chinese Citroen C3. You can see that they are the same car. Also one of the earlier Fiestas where they introduced that oval design. That might be the most striking example, because it really didn't work.

Body panels can be changed, but things like the A pillar can't, perhaps to a very small degree by layering on top of the actual structure, but there it ends. If those parts are more 2nd gen Yaris than 3rd gen Yaris...

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QUOTE(kadajawi @ Feb 15 2013, 11:35 AM)
The 3rd gen Yaris is a relatively safe car too, IIRC.

What I meant is the basic shape. For example look at the Kangoo II, the Kangoo II Phase 2 (facelift coming soon) and the Mercedes Citan. They can only change certain parts from the basic vehicle, but between A and C pillar it is the same car. Maybe doors can be changed, but the basic shape remains the same. Or the Peugeot 206 vs the 206+ and Malaysian 207, and the Chinese Citroen C3. You can see that they are the same car. Also one of the earlier Fiestas where they introduced that oval design. That might be the most striking example, because it really didn't work.

Body panels can be changed, but things like the A pillar can't, perhaps to a very small degree by layering on top of the actual structure, but there it ends. If those parts are more 2nd gen Yaris than 3rd gen Yaris...
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yup i agree wif u.
the alleged pics of vios2013 available on the net aren't clear also sweat.gif

http://www.carnewschina.com/2013/02/04/spy...sting-in-china/

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QUOTE(farghmee @ Feb 15 2013, 12:37 PM)
yup i agree wif u.
the alleged pics of vios2013 available on the net aren't clear also  sweat.gif

http://www.carnewschina.com/2013/02/04/spy...sting-in-china/
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That pic is not the new Vios. In China, they would re-use phased out model in joint venture to re-introduce as new cheaper model.

So don't even say that is the new Vios. The new Vios 2013 chassis can be seen clearly as totally new body.
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QUOTE(goodguyextremist @ Feb 16 2013, 05:38 PM)
That pic is not the new Vios. In China, they would re-use phased out model in joint venture to re-introduce as new cheaper model.

So don't even say that is the new Vios. The new Vios 2013 chassis can be seen clearly as totally new body.
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no offense ya sweat.gif

but pls take a deeper look into:
the side mirror,
the c-pillar quarter glass,
the bulkiness of rear bumper.

it's similar to the thai's vios2013.

i dont know whether it using the old chassis but the c-pillar does look different. cool2.gif


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QUOTE(farghmee @ Feb 18 2013, 11:49 AM)
no offense ya  sweat.gif

but pls take a deeper look into:
the side mirror,
the c-pillar quarter glass,
the bulkiness of rear bumper.

it's similar to the thai's vios2013.

i dont know whether it using the old chassis but the c-pillar does look different.  cool2.gif
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Let's not jump to conclusion blindly. THey will reveal the new Vios soon, just wait a little longer and then confirm. China car websites, some are copy car while some are old model remake.

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QUOTE(vexus @ Feb 15 2013, 12:00 AM)
thailand price

All New Vios 2013 has been for every generation.

S model price 734,000.
G model price 699,000.
The E Price 649000.
The JA / T Price 589000.
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How about the price in Msia? hmm.gif
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New Vios show time

http://paultan.org/2012/11/27/toyota-to-la...o-lead-the-way/

http://paultan.org/2010/12/03/toyota-etios...-indian-market/

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I'm not one of the Toyota engineers, but all new Vios 2013 with 4 speed gear is..... speechless.... doh.gif doh.gif doh.gif ohmy.gif ohmy.gif ohmy.gif shocking.gif shocking.gif shocking.gif

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Sincerely im here thank you all for the support !
huge respond on this New Vios treat !
im not lying, this really a good quality car , tough body, with lot of features(keyless entry).
i just got my 12months bonus smile.gif
next year should be getting more than 12months smile.gif thank you all support !
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QUOTE(felixwcf @ Mar 26 2013, 02:31 PM)
I'm not one of the Toyota engineers, but all new Vios 2013 with 4 speed gear is..... speechless....  doh.gif doh.gif doh.gif  ohmy.gif ohmy.gif ohmy.gif  shocking.gif shocking.gif shocking.gif
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belief me , this new vios is gonna flood malaysia market, 2000 unit or more sale per month !
12 month bonus last year , this year sure bonus kao kao ! yes rclxm9.gif

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The 4 speed auto GB can take quite some whacking. It is proven unless they go down the CVT road but in Msia they won't know how to price it then.
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How about the price in Msia? hmm.gif
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in Thai newspaper, it was slightly higher than current vios...but dont know in this country...maybe need to take out some features to reduce the price...
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in Thai newspaper, it was slightly higher than current vios...but dont know in this country...maybe need to take out some features to reduce the price...
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But I hope the features for new vios remind the same sale on Malaysia market, especially for the "start & off"" button and keyless... Quite amazing which can be apply on C segment car rclxms.gif
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The 4 speed auto GB can take quite some whacking. It is proven unless they go down the CVT road but in Msia they won't know how to price it then.
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Anyone which petrol more suitable for Vios?
Shell?Petronas?Caltex?Any Idea? hmm.gif
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New Vios TRD ^^

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Just back from Thailand, managed to capture few vios. Looks bigger than current

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That E model without reversed sensor.
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That E model without reversed sensor.
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Can always install it accs shop, just hope they don't remove safety features like abs, edb, 2 air bags, which can't be retrofit.

Overall I see this is going to be another star for umw.

Waiting period may stretch to a year ...lol...
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QUOTE(jolokia @ Aug 12 2013, 06:55 AM)
Can always install it accs shop, just hope they don't remove safety features like abs, edb, 2 air bags, which can't be retrofit.

Overall I see this is going to be another star for umw.

Waiting period may stretch to a year ...lol...
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This I can agree with you. It's not the cheapest econobox, but it will probably still be snapped up quickly because of the Toyota badge. The momentum from the current gen Vios will easily be carried over to the "next" generation as well in this case.
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All you Vios fans out there, here's a cake for you today.. It's open for booking!

And here's an estimated price guide borrowed from paultan.org biggrin.gif

Looks like there's not going to be much of a price change....at the very least is very minimal, hopefully for some of you. A lot of people would be happy for this....I know quite a few.

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The fact that it is a Toyota and since most would be influenced by the brands reliability and affordability, this would see plenty people getting excited.

Check out the full story for the details : http://paultan.org/2013/08/16/2013-toyota-...laysia-booking/


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Look at those competitive price for such a state of the art car.

Very very good value for money.

I'm going to go line up and book myself the C-Segment model.

Is the que very long? Need bring sleeping bag + maggi?
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Look at those competitive price for such a state of the art car.

Very very good value for money.

I'm going to go line up and book myself the C-Segment model.

Is the que very long? Need bring sleeping bag + maggi?
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You better camp at least 1 week in advance okay? Have a friend take turns with you will be lagi best.
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c-segment?

i was told you get TRD segment if you buy top of the range model
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QUOTE(MeToo @ Aug 16 2013, 02:18 PM)
Look at those competitive price for such a state of the art car.

Very very good value for money.

I'm going to go line up and book myself the C-Segment model.

Is the que very long? Need bring sleeping bag + maggi?
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Eh can I tumpang you book ah?

Or is there a limit how many biji a customer can book?
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Eh can I tumpang you book ah?

Or is there a limit how many biji a customer can book?
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I'll book as many as I can.... I forsee it will be like Audi A6 Hybrid sales... 1 yr waiting list... and later can sell my spot for RM20k....
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QUOTE(MeToo @ Aug 16 2013, 02:18 PM)
Look at those competitive price for such a state of the art car.

Very very good value for money.

I'm going to go line up and book myself the C-Segment model.

Is the que very long? Need bring sleeping bag + maggi?
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Have you test drive the car? Oh I forgot it's TOYOTA. Who bothers to test drive, VERY VERY good value for money car notworthy.gif . I'll queue today even there aren't any queue yet actually. doh.gif
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I regretted didn't queue for minion. This time I'm not gonna miss this chance of a life time
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c-segment?

i was told you get TRD segment if you buy top of the range model
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Fukang segment is what? I'm curious to know
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cold door segment?
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I regretted didn't queue for minion. This time I'm not gonna miss this chance of a life time
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QUOTE(cokeaddict @ Aug 16 2013, 01:17 PM)
All you Vios fans out there, here's a cake for you today.. It's open for booking!

And here's an estimated price guide borrowed from paultan.org  biggrin.gif

Looks like there's not going to be much of a price change....at the very least is very minimal, hopefully for some of you. A lot of people would be happy for this....I know quite a few.

The fact that it is a Toyota and since most would be influenced by the brands reliability and affordability, this would see plenty people getting excited.

Check out the full story for the details : http://paultan.org/2013/08/16/2013-toyota-...laysia-booking/
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Wrong. should be G(od) Segment. And all before booking need to kow tow 3 times to the car for "sung fung sung sui"
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I saw in toyota malaysia vios website stated that the Audio System is TypeDashboard Integrated CD Player with Tuner, MP3, AUX-Jack & USB only.

I thought i saw a preview show that the new vios come with is a touch screen and can even browse internet
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Time to spot who is the first few dumb ass driving this old tech , low spec and overprice car On The Road!!! Feeling excited ..

Yup.. No VSA as usual for Malaysia version -.-!
Paultan.com show a video how important VSA is , no VSA = Genting down hill in straight line !

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QUOTE(Ah jib @ Aug 24 2013, 03:27 PM)
Time to spot who is the first few dumb ass driving this old tech , low spec and overprice car On The Road!!! Feeling excited ..

Yup.. No VSA as usual for Malaysia version -.-!
Paultan.com show a video how important VSA is , no VSA = Genting down hill in straight line !
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toyyoda will claim the owners do not want VSA installed like what they said to the current kemli back in 2012
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QUOTE(Ah jib @ Aug 24 2013, 03:27 PM)
Time to spot who is the first few dumb ass driving this old tech , low spec and overprice car On The Road!!! Feeling excited ..

Yup.. No VSA as usual for Malaysia version -.-!
Paultan.com show a video how important VSA is , no VSA = Genting down hill in straight line !
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Deswai it is the fastest on Genting downhill!
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Interior quality seems decent. If really as good as pic it will be a seller rclxms.gif rclxms.gif
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Found this today. J Spec MT. A Brunei car.

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From front seems smaller than the Persona.. I think the design will be good for a while only, after sometime it will look boring.
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Found this today. J Spec MT. A Brunei car.

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Despite the spec, the front looks ok, but the back looks awful..looks like almera

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Despite the spec, the front looks ok, but the back looks awful..looks like almera
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exactly, the rear look like Nissan Almera. But overall, the new VIos looking great for me. I like the new panel dashboard compared to current version smile.gif
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QUOTE(spikey2506 @ Aug 25 2013, 08:00 PM)
Found this today. J Spec MT. A Brunei car.

Comparison with Persona
Wow, cars in Brunei so cheap still want to go for lowest spec? J-spec manual some more? They can easily go for full G spec or S spec straight.

Nissan has been obsessed with Toyota design especially Vios dugong since end 2007. First to copy was Nissan Maxima US on the rear lights. The Almera heavily copied Vios dugong design but only thing is they overdone it with added China cars + phased out Korean 03 cars design fused together so it become very ugly.

The new Vios rear didn't dump the old Vios dugong styling but instead develop it further so it looks like this. Wasted or else the new Vios would have proper look on the front and back. Since it is still sticking to old technology, they get to pass NAP protection for P1/P2 therefore they can price it in the same region as Vios dugong with slight increase.

If they fit new dual VVTi upgraded engine + 6AT in Vios 2013, then they'll loose the privilege and end up selling at over RM90k.
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Hey guys,
I notice Toyota M'sia website updates all new VIOS detail
Not sure anyone mention it before..
Check it out..
Spec & Price

http://www.toyota.com.my/vios/

*I'm not Toyota sell man, I just browsing through

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Hey guys,
I notice Toyota M'sia website updates all new VIOS detail
Not sure anyone mention it before..
Check it out..
Spec & Price

http://www.toyota.com.my/vios/

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QUOTE(jayraptor @ Aug 26 2013, 11:22 PM)
Wow, cars in Brunei so cheap still want to go for lowest spec? J-spec manual some more? They can easily go for full G spec or S spec straight.

Nissan has been obsessed with Toyota design especially Vios dugong since end 2007. First to copy was Nissan Maxima US on the rear lights. The Almera heavily copied Vios dugong design but only thing is they overdone it with added China cars + phased out Korean 03 cars design fused together so it become very ugly.

The new Vios rear didn't dump the old Vios dugong styling but instead develop it further so it looks like this. Wasted or else the new Vios would have proper look on the front and back. Since it is still sticking to old technology, they get to pass NAP protection for P1/P2 therefore they can price it in the same region as Vios dugong with slight increase.

If they fit new dual VVTi upgraded engine + 6AT in Vios 2013, then they'll loose the privilege and end up selling at over RM90k.
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wow,i just know that the reason why vios using old tech due to get pass nap that protect p1/p2. no wonder they use the same old tech all around asean,all bcoz of malaysia nap n p1/p2 protection.

but, imho,new vios is really nice.
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QUOTE(jayraptor @ Aug 26 2013, 11:22 PM)
Wow, cars in Brunei so cheap still want to go for lowest spec? J-spec manual some more? They can easily go for full G spec or S spec straight.

Nissan has been obsessed with Toyota design especially Vios dugong since end 2007. First to copy was Nissan Maxima US on the rear lights. The Almera heavily copied Vios dugong design but only thing is they overdone it with added China cars + phased out Korean 03 cars design fused together so it become very ugly.

The new Vios rear didn't dump the old Vios dugong styling but instead develop it further so it looks like this. Wasted or else the new Vios would have proper look on the front and back. Since it is still sticking to old technology, they get to pass NAP protection for P1/P2 therefore they can price it in the same region as Vios dugong with slight increase.

If they fit new dual VVTi upgraded engine + 6AT in Vios 2013, then they'll loose the privilege and end up selling at over RM90k.
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wow,i just know that the reason why vios using old tech due to get pass nap that protect p1/p2. no wonder they use the same old tech all around asean,all bcoz of malaysia nap n p1/p2 protection.

but, imho,new vios is really nice.
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QUOTE(jayraptor @ Aug 26 2013, 11:22 PM)
Wow, cars in Brunei so cheap still want to go for lowest spec? J-spec manual some more? They can easily go for full G spec or S spec straight.

Nissan has been obsessed with Toyota design especially Vios dugong since end 2007. First to copy was Nissan Maxima US on the rear lights. The Almera heavily copied Vios dugong design but only thing is they overdone it with added China cars + phased out Korean 03 cars design fused together so it become very ugly.

The new Vios rear didn't dump the old Vios dugong styling but instead develop it further so it looks like this. Wasted or else the new Vios would have proper look on the front and back. Since it is still sticking to old technology, they get to pass NAP protection for P1/P2 therefore they can price it in the same region as Vios dugong with slight increase.

If they fit new dual VVTi upgraded engine + 6AT in Vios 2013, then they'll loose the privilege and end up selling at over RM90k.
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Mind explain why new tech cant pass NAP?
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Lol WTF.

The same sh1t spec 1NZFE + 4AT selling all over ASEAN is due to Malaysia's NAP?

lolololzzzzz

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QUOTE(jayraptor @ Aug 26 2013, 11:22 PM)
Wow, cars in Brunei so cheap still want to go for lowest spec? J-spec manual some more? They can easily go for full G spec or S spec straight.

Nissan has been obsessed with Toyota design especially Vios dugong since end 2007. First to copy was Nissan Maxima US on the rear lights. The Almera heavily copied Vios dugong design but only thing is they overdone it with added China cars + phased out Korean 03 cars design fused together so it become very ugly.

The new Vios rear didn't dump the old Vios dugong styling but instead develop it further so it looks like this. Wasted or else the new Vios would have proper look on the front and back. Since it is still sticking to old technology, they get to pass NAP protection for P1/P2 therefore they can price it in the same region as Vios dugong with slight increase.

If they fit new dual VVTi upgraded engine + 6AT in Vios 2013, then they'll loose the privilege and end up selling at over RM90k.
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What a load of bs you have there. Mind telling which part of NAP says cannot use new tech?

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QUOTE(jayraptor @ Aug 26 2013, 11:22 PM)
Wow, cars in Brunei so cheap still want to go for lowest spec? J-spec manual some more? They can easily go for full G spec or S spec straight.

Nissan has been obsessed with Toyota design especially Vios dugong since end 2007. First to copy was Nissan Maxima US on the rear lights. The Almera heavily copied Vios dugong design but only thing is they overdone it with added China cars + phased out Korean 03 cars design fused together so it become very ugly.

The new Vios rear didn't dump the old Vios dugong styling but instead develop it further so it looks like this. Wasted or else the new Vios would have proper look on the front and back. Since it is still sticking to old technology, they get to pass NAP protection for P1/P2 therefore they can price it in the same region as Vios dugong with slight increase.

If they fit new dual VVTi upgraded engine + 6AT in Vios 2013, then they'll loose the privilege and end up selling at over RM90k.
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Just the brand name called "Toyota" keyword..

If the cars is by other brand new for everyone who bother this old tech + newer body design.

Lol..
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Wow, cars in Brunei so cheap still want to go for lowest spec? J-spec manual some more? They can easily go for full G spec or S spec straight.

Nissan has been obsessed with Toyota design especially Vios dugong since end 2007. First to copy was Nissan Maxima US on the rear lights. The Almera heavily copied Vios dugong design but only thing is they overdone it with added China cars + phased out Korean 03 cars design fused together so it become very ugly.

The new Vios rear didn't dump the old Vios dugong styling but instead develop it further so it looks like this. Wasted or else the new Vios would have proper look on the front and back. Since it is still sticking to old technology, they get to pass NAP protection for P1/P2 therefore they can price it in the same region as Vios dugong with slight increase.

If they fit new dual VVTi upgraded engine + 6AT in Vios 2013, then they'll loose the privilege and end up selling at over RM90k.
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Hahaha...do you think everybody in Brunei is oil baron meh.. car may cheap but others thing expensive back to square one also.

U simply cannot accept the sucess of Almera.

What crappie story u r trying to cook ? car technology need to stayed old to comply with NAP ? so r u saying ur laoya Rio 1.4 with 4AT is to comply with NAP ? that why NASA never bring in 1.6 with 6AT ? total nonsense.

Toyota actually taking the advantages that local consumer mindset, would even buy a kereta lembu so long as a Toyota badge fixed in front of it, anyway I don't see there is any need for it since even the korean r giving old tech eg. ur laoya Rio also giving single vvt 1.4 with 4AT.

Anyway 6AT only suitable for bigger capacity car eg ur laoya Elantra 1.8 fitted with 6AT also useless as it doesn't have enough torque to coup with the 6AT causing it constantly downshift to "search" for gear.




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that fellow siau liau, kena vios poison, so he is thinking side ways. like lying to himself saying it is gomen fault the vios still using old tech.


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it is just another vios..keep calm and be prepare to kena cucuk later..
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why so late launch la, many of customers already book other brand la becoz this model slow launch
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The rear of the new Vios looks absolutely hideous, not unlike its great granduncle the Camry from 2 generations before.

Front looks damn good tho.


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QUOTE(mat79 @ Aug 27 2013, 12:54 AM)
wow,i just know that the reason why vios using old tech due to get pass nap that protect p1/p2. no wonder they use the same old tech all around asean,all bcoz of malaysia nap n p1/p2 protection.

but, imho,new vios is really nice.
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Hi mat79 and helven,

NAP that protects P1/P2 - any car that is technically more advance or overall build quality + items/accessories/gadgets/etc are better by certain limit, it will be forced to price higher.

N-brand Almera get to price at Preve price range only by having obsolete outdated VVT engine, gearbox and also not so high build quality. Else, it will be priced at RM80k. If having dual VVT + 6AT, then get push further close to RM85k or RM90k for normal spec.


For ruffstuff,

Some of NAP regulation is not revealed on public. Only car company certain staff knows especially jolokia that could check with his respective colleague.
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Hahaha...do you think everybody in Brunei is oil baron meh.. car may cheap but others thing expensive back to square one also.

U simply cannot accept the sucess of Almera.

What crappie story u r trying to cook ? car technology need to stayed old to comply with NAP ? so r u saying ur laoya Rio 1.4 with 4AT is to comply with NAP ? that why NASA never bring in 1.6 with 6AT ? total nonsense.

Toyota actually taking the advantages that local consumer mindset, would even buy a kereta lembu so long as a Toyota badge fixed in front of it, anyway I don't see there is any need for it since even the korean r giving old tech eg. ur laoya Rio also giving single vvt 1.4 with 4AT.

Anyway 6AT only suitable for bigger capacity car eg ur laoya Elantra 1.8 fitted with 6AT also useless as it doesn't have enough torque to coup with the 6AT causing it constantly downshift to "search" for gear.
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You could check with your product team colleague anytime on the NAP P1/P2 protection. Probably you already know and pretend dumb here. If ruffstuff doesn't believe, he can check with your colleague personally for more info.

Rio is using 2nd generation VVT and despite only 1.4L, it can still get 137Nm that is close to your Almera 1.5L. That's why P1 finds it more of a threat than your crappy Almera for having technically more advance engine, stronger gearbox and higher build quality with much accessories/gadgets. As per the rule, they can't be priced less than RM70k like your Almera. Rio 1.4 come only with 4AT in here and globally. Rio dual VVT 1.6L + 6AT, NASA will bring in after Forte stock cleared.

Toyota Vios is only budget car and because its sales remain unchallenged by other brands, they are holding back the upgraded dual VVTi engine.

If you are saying City/Civic/Accord/CRV 5AT gearbox, they only add in smaller 5th gear to older 4AT gearbox similar to your Almera begins with 2.6 first gear. Such gearbox is nothing more for cruising edge but not from idle.

For Ford, Mazda, Chevy, Pug, Hyundai-Kia, BMW, Merc, etc 6AT, they all come with larger/stronger first few gears where the engine could move the axles at less burden from idle start. Technically good for moving from idle, for cruising, etc. It's good and suited for any size cars, even if the car is small and light, having it is a good thing. That gear hunting feel is to disperse excessive force before engaging lower gear which is a new thing too. You really need to do more homework.


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but jay,why fiesta, same as vios price, better equip? im also puzzle on that,not withstanding samething happened accross asean market. do nap apply across the region?
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about the certain staff, who do you refering to? so,meaning, across asean,even fta agreement between countries, the intervene of malaysian nap is stronger. even can cheat by non disclose matter. malaysia shud just undisclosed the 300% import tax,n shud not change policy since everything no need to disclose,can cheat under the table. malaysia shud be sued then by other asean countries. now i know the truth :-).

oh malaysia ku
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about the certain staff, who do you refering to? so,meaning, across asean,even fta agreement between countries, the intervene of malaysian nap is stronger. even can cheat by non disclose matter. malaysia shud just undisclosed the 300% import tax,n shud not change policy since everything no need to disclose,can cheat under the table. malaysia shud be sued then by other asean countries. now i know the truth :-).

oh malaysia ku
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Does the new Vios TRD come with sport suspension?
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but jay,why fiesta, same as vios price, better equip? im also puzzle on that,not withstanding samething happened accross asean market. do nap apply across the region?
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Fiesta 1.6L was launched in 2010. That was before Inspira launch and the NAP rule on non-national car pricing only revised after that and again after Preve launched. Before there is Inspira, B-segment price range you could set them cheapest between RM74k-85k depends on specs and quality. Also, non-national make could still benefit from rebadge to get tax exemption and that was where Forte get to enjoy the selling price tag of RM75k cheapest specs.

After Inspira launch and Preve launch, Elantra despite with rebadge could not set any cheaper than RM90k. Later revision, the Chevy Sonic 1.6L selling price got pushed to RM90k if brought in while Cerato pricing pushed higher to Japanese quality C-segment price range. This P1/P2 protection policy applies to local only, nothing to do with ASEAN. You can check with jolokia who are those certain staff, he could tell you in detailed.
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Hahaha...do you think everybody in Brunei is oil baron meh.. car may cheap but others thing expensive back to square one also.

U simply cannot accept the sucess of Almera.

What crappie story u r trying to cook ? car technology need to stayed old to comply with NAP ? so r u saying ur laoya Rio 1.4 with 4AT is to comply with NAP ? that why NASA never bring in 1.6 with 6AT ? total nonsense.

Toyota actually taking the advantages that local consumer mindset, would even buy a kereta lembu so long as a Toyota badge fixed in front of it, anyway I don't see there is any need for it since even the korean r giving old tech eg. ur laoya Rio also giving single vvt 1.4 with 4AT.

Anyway 6AT only suitable for bigger capacity car eg ur laoya Elantra 1.8 fitted with 6AT also useless as it doesn't have enough torque to coup with the 6AT causing it constantly downshift to "search" for gear.
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I nvr know NASA manufacture cars too, new thing for me... From my outdated knowledge, they specialised in space program only...

U seriously will buy it? WOW, new thing for me too... From my noob common sense, you are the only guy in this world will buy it...

Nowadays, I always look forward to our Prof Jolokia post everyday... Many things we can learn from him... nod.gif
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QUOTE(jayraptor @ Aug 30 2013, 11:34 PM)
Fiesta 1.6L was launched in 2010. That was before Inspira launch and the NAP rule on non-national car pricing only revised after that and again after Preve launched. Before there is Inspira, B-segment price range you could set them cheapest between RM74k-85k depends on specs and quality. Also, non-national make could still benefit from rebadge to get tax exemption and that was where Forte get to enjoy the selling price tag of RM75k cheapest specs.

After Inspira launch and Preve launch, Elantra despite with rebadge could not set any cheaper than RM90k. Later revision, the Chevy Sonic 1.6L selling price got pushed to RM90k if brought in while Cerato pricing pushed higher to Japanese quality C-segment price range. This P1/P2 protection policy applies to local only, nothing to do with ASEAN. You can check with jolokia who are those certain staff, he could tell you in detailed.
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What a load of bullshit again. Jazz is selling at 74k.
Please stop posting crap unless you have reliable source of your so called NAP revision. 8k-10k increase for replacement car is normal, due to more features added. Sometimes the increase is more than that. The trend is similar across all price range, not only below 100k.
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:-):-):-) no wonder toyota reluctant on giving vsc previously to asean market,becoz they wont be blame :-):-):-)
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QUOTE(jayraptor @ Aug 30 2013, 11:34 PM)
Fiesta 1.6L was launched in 2010. That was before Inspira launch and the NAP rule on non-national car pricing only revised after that and again after Preve launched. Before there is Inspira, B-segment price range you could set them cheapest between RM74k-85k depends on specs and quality. Also, non-national make could still benefit from rebadge to get tax exemption and that was where Forte get to enjoy the selling price tag of RM75k cheapest specs.

After Inspira launch and Preve launch, Elantra despite with rebadge could not set any cheaper than RM90k. Later revision, the Chevy Sonic 1.6L selling price got pushed to RM90k if brought in while Cerato pricing pushed higher to Japanese quality C-segment price range. This P1/P2 protection policy applies to local only, nothing to do with ASEAN. You can check with jolokia who are those certain staff, he could tell you in detailed.
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Why J crapot story u cooking here ? Ur laoya brand try to jack up price & u blame it on NAP, how come Almera can sell at such a reasonable price ?
Don't simply quote my name I am not working in automotive line, just that I read more than u..
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Letak rim besar sket lepas tu tambah skirting memang nampak mantap kereta ni. Memang kereta ni begging to di 'ahbeng' kan.
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lol begging to be di ahbeng kan
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i think so now.. but no doubt its a nice looking car
kinda regret getting altis already
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Heard originally slated for Nov but bring forward to Oct...yeah, think so thumbup.gif
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QUOTE(nova_freak @ Aug 30 2013, 11:34 PM)
I nvr know NASA manufacture cars too, new thing for me... From my outdated knowledge, they specialised in space program only...

U seriously will buy it? WOW, new thing for me too... From my noob common sense, you are the only guy in this world will buy it...

Nowadays, I always look forward to our Prof Jolokia post everyday... Many things we can learn from him...  nod.gif
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If you know jolokia personally, he should be able to tell you more inside exclusive story where you will agree with me. As for NASA, it refers to local company that you know. Jolokia is using that name too, aren't you supposed to shoot him?

Almera gets to sell cheap for being inferior than Vios and Preve turbo techincally and physically, therefore it gets to set price at Preve price range. If you know how to check technically, you could tell the Almera tech is overall inferior than Vios.

Talking about City, its 5AT is nothing more than old 4AT gearbox added 1 smaller gear behind. Unlike old Camry 5AT gearbox that really have bigger first 2 gears for stronger assist from idle. The Jazz hybrid is throwing price as it is no match against Prius in FC. It's getting just slightly better than Vios in city driving. City vs Vios, Vios wins anytime in acceleration when loaded and FC.
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If you know jolokia personally, he should be able to tell you more inside exclusive story where you will agree with me. As for NASA, it refers to local company that you know. Jolokia is using that name too, aren't you supposed to shoot him?

Almera gets to sell cheap for being inferior than Vios and Preve turbo techincally and physically, therefore it gets to set price at Preve price range. If you know how to check technically, you could tell the Almera tech is overall inferior than Vios.

Talking about City, its 5AT is nothing more than old 4AT gearbox added 1 smaller gear behind. Unlike old Camry 5AT gearbox that really have bigger first 2 gears for stronger assist from idle. The Jazz hybrid is throwing price as it is no match against Prius in FC. It's getting just slightly better than Vios in city driving. City vs Vios, Vios wins anytime in acceleration when loaded and FC.
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No offense, but I really don't know WTH are you talking about... Honest...
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If you know jolokia personally, he should be able to tell you more inside exclusive story where you will agree with me. As for NASA, it refers to local company that you know. Jolokia is using that name too, aren't you supposed to shoot him?

Almera gets to sell cheap for being inferior than Vios and Preve turbo techincally and physically, therefore it gets to set price at Preve price range. If you know how to check technically, you could tell the Almera tech is overall inferior than Vios.

Talking about City, its 5AT is nothing more than old 4AT gearbox added 1 smaller gear behind. Unlike old Camry 5AT gearbox that really have bigger first 2 gears for stronger assist from idle. The Jazz hybrid is throwing price as it is no match against Prius in FC. It's getting just slightly better than Vios in city driving. City vs Vios, Vios wins anytime in acceleration when loaded and FC.
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Aik ! despite we know each other since AW forum, but I don't think I know u personally..lol..

NASA is our Dr.. Jayraptor secret code lah ! he afraid NAZA may sue him, though I am not sure what would NAZA get for suing him ? him laoya Forte EX kosong which still have 4 years loan ? ..hmmm.....

Simply add in another gear behind ...lol.. how to fit in the gearbox then ? use a hammer to knock2 for additional space ? U think shimano bicycle meh.. simply bantai... So why not add in another gear in front them mah have bigger first gear loh...correct or not, total rubbish theory.

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post Sep 3 2013, 11:33 AM


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post Sep 6 2013, 08:50 PM


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QUOTE(jolokia @ Sep 2 2013, 10:43 PM)
No lah ! according to Dr.. Jayraptor NAP will only allowed them to sell cheaper if they reduce some ingredients, Attrage already reduce 1 cylinder to 3 cylinder, reduced 300cc to 1.2 ltr, reduced 100kg to 950kgs, so they are allowed to sell at 59K...rofl....
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Yes, that is correct. You can continue to pretend you don't know anything about setting car price here despite you are well verse with the regulation.

Attrage sits between A & B segment based on its dimension. Its engine is only 1.2L 3-pot whereas P1 & P2 models come with 4-pot 1.3L yet RM10-20k cheaper therefore it passed. Almera is B-segment with real weak engine equivalent to present day 1.4L only, so you can set price range close to Preve that could beat your product in terms of size, power, handling.

As far as I recalled, you don't dare to use NAZA at all when comes to talking bad. You would add 'K" behind earlier but later you turned to use NASA too.


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post Sep 6 2013, 09:41 PM


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Yes, that is correct. You can continue to pretend you don't know anything about setting car price here despite you are well verse with the regulation.

Attrage sits between A & B segment based on its dimension. Its engine is only 1.2L 3-pot whereas P1 & P2 models come with 4-pot 1.3L yet RM10-20k cheaper therefore it passed. Almera is B-segment with real weak engine equivalent to present day 1.4L only, so you can set price range close to Preve that could beat your product in terms of size, power, handling.

As far as I recalled, you don't dare to use NAZA at all when comes to talking bad. You would add 'K" behind earlier but later you turned to use NASA too.
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Ur memory getting corrupted badly, poor thing u have skip ur medication again aren't u, when was ur last visit to the asylum ?

How would I know anything about NAP ? u think I work in MITI ah ? U r indeed a nutcase or what Kaylcar call Numb Nuts (Right ? Auntie AYap)

Since when I use NAZAK ? I had always use NAZA, just that for the sake of answering ur postings I use NASA so that ur distorted mind don't get confused.

R U saying NAP only allowed car with lower spec to compete with P1, how come Forte r allowed to sell at P1 price with more ingredients ? how about citra vs exora ? so now u mean Rio also reduced ingredients ?? What crap u r talking about is contradicting isn't it.




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post Sep 7 2013, 09:21 AM


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nap was revised in 2009. to make it clear,no hidden in fta agreement coz its a sign agreement between countries,not manufacturers. any undisclosure n wrongly information will be deemed as offend n the country that breaking the agreement will be sued in international court n the country product will be banned n will be penalised as what happened prior 2005, n i do get my info from legitimate source :-).

no wonder toyota managed to grab sales despite overpricing their products. in before,nap,but new one, goodwill :-)
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post Sep 7 2013, 09:22 AM


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post Sep 7 2013, 09:33 AM


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what happened prior 2005 not bcoz undisclosure or breaking the agreement, it happened due to not enter or agree with fta at all. even not agree got penalised. agree but undisclosure, thats mean war.
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I wonder if I should quote this as my siggy!? What do you think?
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QUOTE(mat79 @ Sep 7 2013, 09:21 AM)
nap was revised in 2009. to make it clear,no hidden in fta agreement coz its a sign agreement between countries,not manufacturers. any undisclosure n wrongly information will be deemed as offend n the country that breaking the agreement will be sued in international court n the country product will be banned n will be penalised as what happened prior 2005, n i do get my info from legitimate source :-).

no wonder toyota managed to grab sales despite overpricing their products. in before,nap,but new one, goodwill :-)
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How on earth a fairer FTA cause Toyota sales to surge despite higher price ??
This is blind bashing !
I don't think we have ever followed the FTA rules or else fake national car like NAZA would not be allowed. Why r we giving special treatment to South Korean car despite we did not sign FTA with them ??
Opps I forgot I saw Cerato advertisement on a famous building which have advertising led all over it..lol..

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i saw thailand ad on new vios have "v control" anyone know any details on this?
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QUOTE(jolokia @ Sep 6 2013, 09:41 PM)
Ur memory getting corrupted badly, poor thing u have skip ur medication again aren't u, when was ur last visit to the asylum ?

How would I know anything about NAP ? u think I work in MITI ah ? U r indeed a nutcase or what Kaylcar call Numb Nuts (Right ? Auntie AYap)

Since when I use NAZAK ? I had always use NAZA, just that for the sake of answering ur postings I use NASA so that ur distorted mind don't get confused.

R U saying NAP only allowed car with lower spec to compete with P1, how come Forte r allowed to sell at P1 price with more ingredients ? how about citra vs exora ? so now u mean Rio also reduced ingredients ?? What crap u r talking about is contradicting isn't it.
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Don't have to deny, could always refer your earlier comments on AW. Forte is still priced more than RM10k above the most expensive P1 model when launched in Dec '09 despite rebadged.

Only your obsolete tech Almera get to price on P1 Preve level. The new Mitsu Attrage 1.2L only get to be priced below RM70k by having small 3pot engine and smaller chassis. You know why they can't set it cheaper at RM60k? Because it has more advanced tech than your Almera, its CVT gearbox is even stronger than your Teana/Sylphy CVT.
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QUOTE(jolokia @ Sep 7 2013, 05:43 PM)
How on earth a fairer FTA cause Toyota sales to surge despite higher price ??
This is blind bashing !
I don't think we have ever followed the FTA rules or else fake national car like NAZA would not be allowed. Why r we giving special treatment to South Korean car despite we did not sign FTA with them ??
Opps I forgot I saw Cerato advertisement on a famous building which have advertising led all over it..lol..
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fta agreement isnt just for afta. fta also include in cept agreement. even cept agreement was signed with japan,korea n many other countries. it does not just for automotive sector,but many more. fta doesnt mean no local tax,jus trading tax impose to other countries products that being ommited while maintaining the same tax treatment as local products.

read carefully my friend on my previous comment,i didnt mention fta causing the surge increase of sales of toyota despite higher price,just that people acceptance of the higher price bcoz of toyota brand n some still blaming the nap or fta or what soever reason to justify the buying of expensive less equip n less safety toyota car,despite other car makers can make it less for more,even at the same price point of toyota.

i just hope toyota can give atleast the same equip car as per rival with their current price offer.

just wonder,which part im bashing fta causing toyota sales soars high even pricing higher due to fta?
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