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SUSjolokia
post Aug 12 2013, 06:55 AM

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QUOTE(kimsim @ Aug 12 2013, 06:21 AM)
That E model without reversed sensor.
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Can always install it accs shop, just hope they don't remove safety features like abs, edb, 2 air bags, which can't be retrofit.

Overall I see this is going to be another star for umw.

Waiting period may stretch to a year ...lol...
SUSjolokia
post Aug 27 2013, 09:33 AM

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QUOTE(jayraptor @ Aug 26 2013, 11:22 PM)
Wow, cars in Brunei so cheap still want to go for lowest spec? J-spec manual some more? They can easily go for full G spec or S spec straight.

Nissan has been obsessed with Toyota design especially Vios dugong since end 2007. First to copy was Nissan Maxima US on the rear lights. The Almera heavily copied Vios dugong design but only thing is they overdone it with added China cars + phased out Korean 03 cars design fused together so it become very ugly.

The new Vios rear didn't dump the old Vios dugong styling but instead develop it further so it looks like this. Wasted or else the new Vios would have proper look on the front and back. Since it is still sticking to old technology, they get to pass NAP protection for P1/P2 therefore they can price it in the same region as Vios dugong with slight increase.

If they fit new dual VVTi upgraded engine + 6AT in Vios 2013, then they'll loose the privilege and end up selling at over RM90k.
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Hahaha...do you think everybody in Brunei is oil baron meh.. car may cheap but others thing expensive back to square one also.

U simply cannot accept the sucess of Almera.

What crappie story u r trying to cook ? car technology need to stayed old to comply with NAP ? so r u saying ur laoya Rio 1.4 with 4AT is to comply with NAP ? that why NASA never bring in 1.6 with 6AT ? total nonsense.

Toyota actually taking the advantages that local consumer mindset, would even buy a kereta lembu so long as a Toyota badge fixed in front of it, anyway I don't see there is any need for it since even the korean r giving old tech eg. ur laoya Rio also giving single vvt 1.4 with 4AT.

Anyway 6AT only suitable for bigger capacity car eg ur laoya Elantra 1.8 fitted with 6AT also useless as it doesn't have enough torque to coup with the 6AT causing it constantly downshift to "search" for gear.




SUSjolokia
post Aug 31 2013, 09:52 AM

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QUOTE(jayraptor @ Aug 30 2013, 11:34 PM)
Fiesta 1.6L was launched in 2010. That was before Inspira launch and the NAP rule on non-national car pricing only revised after that and again after Preve launched. Before there is Inspira, B-segment price range you could set them cheapest between RM74k-85k depends on specs and quality. Also, non-national make could still benefit from rebadge to get tax exemption and that was where Forte get to enjoy the selling price tag of RM75k cheapest specs.

After Inspira launch and Preve launch, Elantra despite with rebadge could not set any cheaper than RM90k. Later revision, the Chevy Sonic 1.6L selling price got pushed to RM90k if brought in while Cerato pricing pushed higher to Japanese quality C-segment price range. This P1/P2 protection policy applies to local only, nothing to do with ASEAN. You can check with jolokia who are those certain staff, he could tell you in detailed.
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Why J crapot story u cooking here ? Ur laoya brand try to jack up price & u blame it on NAP, how come Almera can sell at such a reasonable price ?
Don't simply quote my name I am not working in automotive line, just that I read more than u..
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post Sep 2 2013, 10:43 PM

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QUOTE(leftist @ Sep 2 2013, 10:07 PM)
mitsu attrage starts from 59k...blame it on NAP?? biggrin.gif
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No lah ! according to Dr.. Jayraptor NAP will only allowed them to sell cheaper if they reduce some ingredients, Attrage already reduce 1 cylinder to 3 cylinder, reduced 300cc to 1.2 ltr, reduced 100kg to 950kgs, so they are allowed to sell at 59K...rofl....
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post Sep 2 2013, 10:54 PM

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QUOTE(jayraptor @ Sep 2 2013, 10:04 PM)
If you know jolokia personally, he should be able to tell you more inside exclusive story where you will agree with me. As for NASA, it refers to local company that you know. Jolokia is using that name too, aren't you supposed to shoot him?

Almera gets to sell cheap for being inferior than Vios and Preve turbo techincally and physically, therefore it gets to set price at Preve price range. If you know how to check technically, you could tell the Almera tech is overall inferior than Vios.

Talking about City, its 5AT is nothing more than old 4AT gearbox added 1 smaller gear behind. Unlike old Camry 5AT gearbox that really have bigger first 2 gears for stronger assist from idle. The Jazz hybrid is throwing price as it is no match against Prius in FC. It's getting just slightly better than Vios in city driving. City vs Vios, Vios wins anytime in acceleration when loaded and FC.
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Aik ! despite we know each other since AW forum, but I don't think I know u personally..lol..

NASA is our Dr.. Jayraptor secret code lah ! he afraid NAZA may sue him, though I am not sure what would NAZA get for suing him ? him laoya Forte EX kosong which still have 4 years loan ? ..hmmm.....

Simply add in another gear behind ...lol.. how to fit in the gearbox then ? use a hammer to knock2 for additional space ? U think shimano bicycle meh.. simply bantai... So why not add in another gear in front them mah have bigger first gear loh...correct or not, total rubbish theory.

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post Sep 6 2013, 09:41 PM

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QUOTE(jayraptor @ Sep 6 2013, 08:50 PM)
Yes, that is correct. You can continue to pretend you don't know anything about setting car price here despite you are well verse with the regulation.

Attrage sits between A & B segment based on its dimension. Its engine is only 1.2L 3-pot whereas P1 & P2 models come with 4-pot 1.3L yet RM10-20k cheaper therefore it passed. Almera is B-segment with real weak engine equivalent to present day 1.4L only, so you can set price range close to Preve that could beat your product in terms of size, power, handling.

As far as I recalled, you don't dare to use NAZA at all when comes to talking bad. You would add 'K" behind earlier but later you turned to use NASA too.
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Ur memory getting corrupted badly, poor thing u have skip ur medication again aren't u, when was ur last visit to the asylum ?

How would I know anything about NAP ? u think I work in MITI ah ? U r indeed a nutcase or what Kaylcar call Numb Nuts (Right ? Auntie AYap)

Since when I use NAZAK ? I had always use NAZA, just that for the sake of answering ur postings I use NASA so that ur distorted mind don't get confused.

R U saying NAP only allowed car with lower spec to compete with P1, how come Forte r allowed to sell at P1 price with more ingredients ? how about citra vs exora ? so now u mean Rio also reduced ingredients ?? What crap u r talking about is contradicting isn't it.




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post Sep 7 2013, 05:43 PM

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QUOTE(mat79 @ Sep 7 2013, 09:21 AM)
nap was revised in 2009. to make it clear,no hidden in fta agreement coz its a sign agreement between countries,not manufacturers. any undisclosure n wrongly information will be deemed as offend n the country that breaking the agreement will be sued in international court n the country product will be banned n will be penalised as what happened prior 2005, n i do get my info from legitimate source :-).

no wonder toyota managed to grab sales despite overpricing their products. in before,nap,but new one, goodwill :-)
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How on earth a fairer FTA cause Toyota sales to surge despite higher price ??
This is blind bashing !
I don't think we have ever followed the FTA rules or else fake national car like NAZA would not be allowed. Why r we giving special treatment to South Korean car despite we did not sign FTA with them ??
Opps I forgot I saw Cerato advertisement on a famous building which have advertising led all over it..lol..

This post has been edited by jolokia: Sep 7 2013, 05:45 PM

 

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