Looks kinda sleek and bigger than the current vios. But on the road with no disguise at all?is this for real?

Not as pretty as the K3, but for a Toyota quite good. Though that's, well, we are talking about Toyota after all.

It really was about time. We will have to see if it is worth the money though, I think it will be quite empty and outdated inside.

Yes. Toyota is in a difficult position. On one hand RV is very important too them. Especially the Vios may not lose value too much. If it does, that would be bad for sales. So people can't look at the Vios and think... wow, this is so great, there is no way I'll buy the Dugong anymore. It has to be bad enough that there is still interest in the old one.

However yes, we have seen on the Camry that a too basic spec will also do bad things to sales. Too much competition these days, and the superiority of contis and to a certain degree even Koreans is just too great. They need to improve a lot to be competitive again.

But if they replace engine etc., people may say: Oh, all new, wonder how reliable it is. At the same time, other brands are already a few generations into their new engines, gearboxes etc., so they are by now proven. First gen DSG horrible, but new ones are fine. etc. The Prius C isn't doing as good as it should, right? Perhaps because it is too modern?

Basically they may have already losts the game, and there is nothing they can do about it. Either way they will lose, the question will be if they can minimize the damage.

I'd try to go a middle way. Full safety spec, you won't want a PR disaster at ASEAN NCAP. They are in a very fortunate position to phase out the current Vios before side impacts happen, something that would hurt Dugong RV very bad (I do hope ASEAN NCAP doesn't care and will test the Dugong anyway). So 6 airbags and ESP is important, you'll want a 5 star rating. Engine stay the same, but replace the gearbox with a 6 speeder. Rest stays the same. 1 year down the road introduce an improved Vios, new, smaller engine, more features inside. Perhaps keep introducing features to reach the competition over time. First as option, then make them standard.

Can always install it accs shop, just hope they don't remove safety features like abs, edb, 2 air bags, which can't be retrofit.

Overall I see this is going to be another star for umw.

Waiting period may stretch to a year ...lol...

Look at those competitive price for such a state of the art car.

Very very good value for money.

I'm going to go line up and book myself the C-Segment model.

Is the que very long? Need bring sleeping bag + maggi?

c-segment?

i was told you get TRD segment if you buy top of the range model