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lilredridinghood
post Jan 26 2013, 10:14 AM

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tried abang butthead's method, not easy, my six packs not strong enough :/ perhaps, forearms lousy kot
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post Jan 26 2013, 12:20 PM

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Hi..bro,
Zipp 303 Questions?
Use: Total terrain? Not in to competition.
Rider's weight : 60Kg
Ideal Spoke count for F,R?
Ideal tires?
23C, 25C?
Any other info will be helpful....


nlik
post Jan 26 2013, 12:51 PM

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QUOTE(zuiichi @ Jan 24 2013, 04:33 PM)
Sony malaysia warranty only need register product online? No need receipt? Is it true?
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QUOTE(butthead @ Jan 25 2013, 03:37 PM)
having shift indicators tells other people that you are amateurish...

i like shift indicators though...

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I'm using this tiagra 10 with indicators. I think the indicators are not useful since can tell which gear is engaged by feeling. The top also scratches when u turn the bike upside down to change stuff. Probably better like the higher end one's where the rubber casing covers the top, so that the display plastic doesn't get scratched.
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post Jan 26 2013, 01:47 PM

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QUOTE(butthead @ Jan 26 2013, 08:52 AM)
you can take the asymmetric R440 rear and normal R440 front... and why not DT Aerolite since the entire set is already built mostly of DT parts...

i personally like the RR465 which used to be called the RR1.1 if i am not wrong... it has double eyelets which is a bit more tougher at the expense of weight... i'll pair mine with a RR415 front and RR465 rear if i were to purchase mine... the rim is only 1.6mm narrower than the RR440...

you went to this section?
http://www.wheelbuilder.com/custom-dt-swiss-rear-wheel.html
http://www.wheelbuilder.com/custom-dt-swiss-front-wheel.html
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yes i did. not bad la the price. coz normaly those dt240 hubs alone are bloody expensive. i'd choose sapim spokes bcoz uncle boon sells sapim. can find spares if i need some
mrjgx
post Jan 26 2013, 02:48 PM

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QUOTE(Mac Wai @ Jan 26 2013, 12:20 PM)
Hi..bro,
Zipp 303 Questions?
Use: Total terrain? Not in to competition.
Rider's weight : 60Kg
Ideal Spoke count for F,R?
Ideal tires?
23C, 25C?
Any other info will be helpful....
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Since 303 FC is wider than 404, it's better to use thinner tires rather than wider as it would negate the benefits of having a wider rim. Sifus here correct me if I'm wrong hmm.gif

Go for 303 if you want a an all rounder wheels. I'd get em if I don't have an FR0, and that Tarmac SL4 doesn't have any issues with it. Sadly both cases is not on my side so I'll go for the 404.


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post Jan 26 2013, 03:09 PM

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23C on 303 firecrest looks like 25C. 23C for optimum performance, 25C for comfort and toughness
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post Jan 26 2013, 03:31 PM

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QUOTE(lilredridinghood @ Jan 26 2013, 10:14 AM)
tried abang butthead's method, not easy, my six packs not strong enough :/ perhaps, forearms lousy kot
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apa kaitan ngan six packs???

QUOTE(Mac Wai @ Jan 26 2013, 12:20 PM)
Hi..bro,
Zipp 303 Questions?
Use: Total terrain? Not in to competition.
Rider's weight : 60Kg
Ideal Spoke count for F,R?
Ideal tires?
23C, 25C?
Any other info will be helpful....
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What is terrain? As long as not off-road... anywhere you can use it (doesn't mean you can abuse it)
Weight limit? Usually this sort of low spoke count wheels should handle rider weight limit up to 180 pounds no problems... zipp states 250lbs but i doubt it (http://www.zipp.com/wheels/303-firecrest---carbon-clincher/#)
Spoke count? Where can choose? It's dictated by Zipp which is 18F/24R
Tires? Anything would do as long as it suits your wallet. Corsa Evo CX if you can afford or GP4000s if you can't and Maxxis Detonators if you really have no money. The zipp wheel is not going to send you a rejection notice whatever you put on it
Tire size? It's made to fit 23c optimally, 25c will fit still nicely if you can find them.

Other info???
1) www.hsbc.com.my/1/2/personal-banking/credit-cards
2) www.hlb.com.my/pfs/cc/ccpromo.jsp?flag=ccpromo
3) www.maybank2u.com.my › Home › Cards › Credit Cards
4) http://www.standardchartered.com.my/person...w-all-cards/en/
5) www1.uob.com.my/personal/cards/credit/uob_cards_apply.htm

QUOTE(nlik @ Jan 26 2013, 12:51 PM)
I'm using this tiagra 10 with indicators. I think the indicators are not useful since can tell which gear is engaged by feeling.
you pro mar.. we noobs only

QUOTE(nlik @ Jan 26 2013, 12:51 PM)
The top also scratches when u turn the bike upside down to change stuff.
don't flip your bike upside down.. problem solved... that is why portable bike stands are invented...

QUOTE(miaopurr @ Jan 26 2013, 01:47 PM)
yes i did. not bad la the price. coz normaly those dt240 hubs alone are bloody expensive. i'd choose sapim spokes bcoz uncle boon sells sapim. can find spares if i need some
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yup... the 240s will shovel 2.5k easily out of your pocket in malaysia.. i saw the retail tag of RM2.6k from orbea.. although it was the MTB disc hub version

you sure uncle tan got your length or not??? you better check with them on what length is on your wheel and then find out with uncle tan first... bladed spokes don't have that much room for you to cut and re-thread oh.. if he doesn't have it.. better order up spares of each length.. should mostly involve 3 lengths..

QUOTE(mrjgx @ Jan 26 2013, 02:48 PM)
Since 303 FC is wider than 404, it's better to use thinner tires rather than wider as it would negate the benefits of having a wider rim. Sifus here correct me if I'm wrong  hmm.gif

Go for 303 if you want a an all rounder wheels. I'd get em if I don't have an FR0, and that Tarmac SL4 doesn't have any issues with it. Sadly both cases is not on my side so I'll go for the 404.
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nope.. the wheels are designed to be wider as it will let the 23mm sit much more snugly especially tubs... 25mm although is not what it was designed for.. but it will sit much better on the zipp wide rims rather than conventional 19-20mm rim width of most other wheels...you get better contact interface between the tire hooks or adhesive face with the rims....

QUOTE(miaopurr @ Jan 26 2013, 03:09 PM)
25C for comfort and toughness
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comfort comes with pain...pain of not being able to find the tires...

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post Jan 26 2013, 03:41 PM

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QUOTE(butthead @ Jan 26 2013, 03:31 PM)
apa kaitan ngan six packs???
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his torso not strong enough to support upper body weight, i think
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post Jan 26 2013, 03:43 PM

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QUOTE(butthead @ Jan 26 2013, 03:31 PM)
you sure uncle tan got your length or not??? you better check with them on what length is on your wheel and then find out with uncle tan first... bladed spokes don't have that much room for you to cut and re-thread oh.. if he doesn't have it.. better order up spares of each length.. should mostly involve 3 lengths..
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that one, not sure la... how many of each length should we keep as spares?
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post Jan 26 2013, 03:45 PM

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QUOTE(butthead @ Jan 26 2013, 03:31 PM)
comfort comes with pain...pain of not being able to find the tires...
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i tot 25C can easily be found? conti gp4000s summore
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post Jan 26 2013, 04:39 PM

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QUOTE(miaopurr @ Jan 26 2013, 03:41 PM)
his torso not strong enough to support upper body weight, i think
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it's like aerobars only mar.. just rest on top of the handlebar and use the cables as guides... haha

it's a matter of getting used to it... frankly... there is no use for that except when you are riding on the flats at considerable speeds...

QUOTE(miaopurr @ Jan 26 2013, 03:43 PM)
that one, not sure la... how many of each length should we keep as spares?
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minimally 1... but since it's so far away and shipment charges are crazy high... i'd keep as much as 3 to 4 piece per length.. you can keep less spokes for the front wheel as the risk is lesser on the front wheel and it uses same length both sides...

QUOTE(miaopurr @ Jan 26 2013, 03:45 PM)
i tot 25C can easily be found? conti gp4000s summore
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yeah.. but that is still 1 choice only... 23c can be found in multiple options mar...
Mac Wai
post Jan 26 2013, 05:17 PM

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So 25C is more applicable for tubs fit wise, and also gives better comfort. Will it be slower than 23C?

This post has been edited by Mac Wai: Jan 26 2013, 05:19 PM
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post Jan 26 2013, 07:04 PM

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not something you can notice on a daily basis... there is pros and cons to both choices... either one still works just as good...

it is a matter of which you believe in...
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post Jan 26 2013, 07:14 PM

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In your opinion, which one of the two tires reflects a more aesthetic combination with the 303?
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post Jan 26 2013, 07:40 PM

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stop for a minute. is this for u or ur fren? i sense it's the former....
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post Jan 26 2013, 07:54 PM

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QUOTE(Mac Wai @ Jan 26 2013, 07:14 PM)
In your opinion, which one of the two tires reflects a more aesthetic combination with the 303?
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23c

both aesthetics and speed often go in opposite direction...
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post Jan 26 2013, 07:55 PM

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QUOTE(miaopurr @ Jan 26 2013, 07:40 PM)
stop for a minute. is this for u or ur fren? i sense it's the former....
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isn't it very obvious?
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post Jan 26 2013, 08:00 PM

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If it's me, I have to thanks butthead for the helpful "Other info".
Yes, asked on behalf of a fren's.
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post Jan 26 2013, 08:13 PM

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Did a bit of digging, I think Zipp is value for money especially with our local market, I think Enve is aesthetic looking, but can't seems to get it locally and are much higher in price pt.

This post has been edited by Mac Wai: Jan 26 2013, 08:43 PM
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post Jan 26 2013, 10:59 PM

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I use 25c at the rear and 23c at the front. Plenty of choices for 25c here. Anyway butthead if it's hard to find in Malaysian market there's always an online option smile.gif

Btw, I think imcyclist sells Colnago brands in Msia right. How much is the price range? Do they sell frames or only a complete bike? And what is the difference between C59 and M10 S?

I think my competitiveness level in this cycling sports has went down a notch. Retired early from all the hypes and marketing bs. I want to cycle slowly and for fitness, enjoying the scenery, no more trying to move up my ranking on Strava leaderboards.

By doing that I can enjoy cycling more. Going to shop, starbucks, checking out chicks..wearing short khakis, no bib. Radar to be replaced with aviator and the likes. but first I have to change the bike..not the mainstream spez..I want some fine Italian stallion. Will Colnagos fit the bills? Pinarello? Willier?

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