normal alu clincher only la... can withstand abuse

RM4k definitely can get you 105 shod bike providing you don't aim for the big brands like Specialize, Scott or BMC.

can't recall who has EMC in KL... but it is definitely available here...

this are not in KL....
http://www.wanscycle.com/web/node/359
http://www.sbhbicycles.com/store/Racing-Bikes-Road-Bike/

I think cycling messes with your knees equally as fast or bad as running. In fact, running actually promotes good bone health if your running posture is correct. The impact from running actually encourages higher bone density provided you have the adequate amount of calcium and stuff needed for good bone health.

it's the same function lar bro... jus a big more plasticky and slighty heavier if you are not too picky...

you willing to part with your money??

if overtensioned... the spoke will fatigue faster as it was not made to handle that much stress, there is possibilities that either the nipple will crack and let go first or the spoke might snap (most of the time at the elbow or the spoke head)

under-tension on the other hand might promote freeplay on the spoke holes of the hub if they are not made to have tight tolerances... this also will wear down the spoke elbow and break some time in the future after extended use...

i won't happen immediately... most likely things you'll know after months and months of usage and depending on how you ride...

cosmetic damage... don't think you need to worry that much...

if you hit it with your finger and it sounds different or like a slight cracking sound over the affected area comparing with area around it which is undamaged... then you might have a worry...

USD180 is not for everything... depends on what you buy... the more you buy, the more expensive it gets.. i think they calculate it based on weight... so, it makes no sense to group buy from this sites...

so better take the middle value; 120?

it'll be safer... it's not too minimal and it's not too much...

you won't get all spokes there if it is not a new wheel...

Scott Speedster 20, 105 groupset might fit your budget.

IIRC, my friend told me that Pedalspot brings in EMC as well

i think that is tipping 4k if you get it from KH or Uncle Tan's shop...no wrong trying to survey there though...

outside, if it is available... maybe under RM4k...

Giant, Polygon, Merida, Fuji is the ones that is most likely making 105-mixed alloy bikes under 4k...

all this talk about 4k makes me think about this 110 inch 4K LED TV from CES... mmmmhhhhmmmmm....


This post has been edited by butthead: Jan 25 2013, 03:14 PM

Yeah, Uncle Tan even said to me back then that he priced it too low. LOL

But nothing wrong with Giant(A bit hard to find Doraemons outside though), Polygon, Merida or Fuji actually.

As for Tiagra and 105, from what I've gathered, most people who experienced both(the 10 speed ones) said that the only thing that really bothered them about the Tiagra is cosmetic.

None of LYN cyclist went for the ride???

having shift indicators tells other people that you are amateurish...

i like shift indicators though...

if give away free rapha apparels.. maybe lar...

else..

he ain't no alberto contador.. not interested...

The messy cables too but I couldn't care less & I am loving the shift indicators

Who cares, an uncle with a Shimano Sora beat my time in OCBC by 10 freaking minutes.

I dislike interval training but I guess I'm going to try that tomorrow, pray no rain

no internal routing is not a real problem... it's not a real big eyesore anyways...

actually... the cables becomes a place for you to hold onto if you are riding on the flats... sort of like an aero extension that is flexible...

helps with people who are six packs hungry too

don't get what you meant by that...

try grabbing the cables/wires while cycling then you will understand

i always do that when i was using sora last time... don't understand what i should be understanding....

oh well, i sound silly now, let me try on mine tomorrow before commenting further

butthead, dt440 rims 24F/28R, dt240 hubs, sapim cxray spokes, alloy nipples, minus skewer, RM3.3k including shipping

you can take the asymmetric R440 rear and normal R440 front... and why not DT Aerolite since the entire set is already built mostly of DT parts...

i personally like the RR465 which used to be called the RR1.1 if i am not wrong... it has double eyelets which is a bit more tougher at the expense of weight... i'll pair mine with a RR415 front and RR465 rear if i were to purchase mine... the rim is only 1.6mm narrower than the RR440...

you went to this section?
http://www.wheelbuilder.com/custom-dt-swiss-rear-wheel.html
http://www.wheelbuilder.com/custom-dt-swiss-front-wheel.html