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Frequently Asked Question on what kind of bikes to get:

1) Aluminum bike - 10 speed Tiagra (maybe mixed Tiagra - Sora), priced around RM3k up- this would be the absolute lowest point i would say to start from... any lower and you will land outside of 10speed equipment and any upgrades will certainly be more than the difference you saved not buying this bike.. shimano launched tiagra with 10speed beginning of this year making this a considerable choice... also, this grade of bike will have a more common grade of cockpit (handlebar, stem, seat post, saddle) and cheaper wheels

2) Aluminum bike - 10 speed 105 (maybe mixed 105 - Tiagra), priced around RM3.8k up- most likely the same frame above with a different paint livery, this would be an entry level into shimano's definition of competition components... tiagra would be what they called the top tier among the enthusiast group.. although both 10 speed... but materials and feel... tiagra has a shift indicator while the 105 does not hence giving you a pro feel (what the bike shop will tell you)...mostly.. tiagra has a bit more plasticky bits than 105... some slightly more expensive models might even start offering slightly better wheels like mavic aksiums along with better slightly better graded cockpit...

- i would not try and go past 105 on a aluminum bike... the best brands like specialized or bmc will be selling an aluminum bike equipped with 105 for a little over RM5k... going 1 notch up into ultegra will lead you to start looking into higher end bikes as those bikes will surely creep past RM6k and most likely a mismatch between frame and component grades... you will be practically trying to pair a set of RAYS CE28N onto a Perodua Myvi if you get what i mean in car terms...

3) Carbon bike - 10 speed 105 (possibly not full 105), priced around RM7k up- this would be a foray into performance bicycles... although a carbon frame... but this are not the best carbon has to offer for 2 reasons... carbon cloth grade (less modulus, less weave, lower grade binding agents) and the man power / time needed (less complex layup schedules) to layup the carbon layers into producing a frame... basically a mass produced frame with the lowest production cost possible... not all that bad... it should still be on par if not better with the best of the aluminum frames in terms of stiffness.. basically, component should be similar or slightly better than the aluminum 105 bike depending on the price you pay...

- here i would name one which shocked me quite a bit recently... saw this Look 566...this http://www.lookcycle.com/en/int/route/velo...-bike-2013.html , but i guess a previous year model...... carbon frame with Mavic Aksium wheels... not a complete 105 with some downgraded cranks and calipers... a carbon frame with comfort geometry retailing for RM7.1k if my memory serves me right...

- price is slightly high for some people... but if you look at it...maybe under 30% more if you are looking at a Apex or 105 equipped Specialize Allez

4) free for all - death - bankruptcy - you name it...
- step into this and there will be no return...

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This post has been edited by vin_ann: Jan 9 2013, 01:47 PM

okkie....


wah lau....

i want go jump off from 14th floor lioa... have u decided how to do it?

i'm not knowlegdeable to make homemade gels. are you fan of homemade? include video-ing ur activity???


the reviews said the gel gives you endurance, yet fast recovery.

u can perform the endurance the next day...

wow....

dude, you have amazing folding bike story to tell....

wait i free, i want to tell my amazing doremon roadbike story too!

my friend who in Australia said this thread is too technical...

he is planning to get a bike there...

any newbie want to share where n how u pick up in cycling?

okkie!

i ask him come see again!

wah... Butthead....

Giant TCR SL 3 Gold limited edition

Anyone doing Broga Reverse 116 ? Broga Reserve also known as Jantan loop... clockwise called Janita... Jantan Vs Janita, do these spark anything in your mind?

paying RM120 for the ride, with RM20 refundable if you fill in survey (RM10) and return timing chip (RM10).

Too bad, Broga reserve ride become my third priority.

i have Ocean to Ocean in Thailand run from beach faces Pacific ocean to beach faces Hindi ocean - waiting (in waiting list) or else Penang 28km trail running.

y la all events packs into 1 weekend.

i think so.


Broga TFDB ? ma brain no functioning now....

miao miao... u organize plus a female rider, i join.

Time Trial = TT ?

u thinks too much bro. just ride.

1st time ride, dont put too much expectation but learning...

u can slow in 1st half, push second half.
u can push 1st half, slow in second half.
u can use combo slow push, push slow...
u can slow all the way...
u can push all the way...

most effective way: find a cyclist u hate most, target him... tail behind him... and when crossing the line, overtake him...

or another effective way: find a female cyclist.

ok. finish cocking. back to work.

u havent change to big crank? get Rotor crank Oval shape straight away!



i never see u consider in upgrading crank !!! it's time now!

just tag along the group that you comfortable.... u can start with fast group, if drop, then tag along second group... if drop again, tag along 3rd group, if drop again, tag 4th group... and the process continue if you keep dropping...

ended you're #Foreveralone finishing the event...

btw, road to sucess: 1 week train 9 times. u go figure out urself. This is what P2K top rider female rider kakak do in her training...

ala bro, you now only realize the "syok-ness" of drafting?

i'm been enjoying since im with P2K... after few rides, after upgraded my legs power in order to keep up with them for half of ride distance. yet im still drop....

you're not crazy enuf to know her. haha...

u can see from recently cycling event... she won 1st prize... Y U DONT KNOW HER!

im using Top Peak floor pump... no problem since Nov'11.


me likes nutella too.....

btw, i read from 1 ultra runner blog, saying grain is no good for body as its have sugar...

While i'm been practicing Italian nutrition with everyday pasta.... imaging i'm joining TdF... good motivation right?

what's the huge different between the two???

Carbon Frame:

so happens i got to know some of bit info:

Time frame: RM8,800
Spez SL3 : RM5,400

my P2K member got his SL3 from uncle Boon Fu, the While SL3 team Saxo frame white color. His feedback, 1st 2 weeks of riding, whole body muscles pains.... but after it's awesome feel !

It's much better better than the LOOK frame that he rode since beginning.

so Spez > Look ?

why u not able to follow back after dropped from 1st group?

btw, 40kmh on flat is nothing when following behind peloton... learn always stick to behind... aka snake-ing.... haha...

when you're alone and try to tag back the peloton, u need to push n put some 15 second hard effort to catch up with the peloton, and then you can rest n relax behind the peloton!


Co2 is good. When ur tyre flat, it's pump up ur tyre within seconds. Off course, it's also depend on ur affordability ur experience. For me now, i will never use Co2 as it's expensive, the experience doesnt worth the experience. While my P2K member, he uses Co2, when flat, pressure free, change tube and press the Co2... and it's done, we continue to ride.

Co2 is use and throw and only can use ONCE.


i thinks it's the top range 695. his second hand LOOK frame managed to sell for RM4,000. should be top range punya kua.

hills.

peloton group tend to go faster during hills climb!

it's where i mostly dropped!!

those cyclist's lung are not human 1... uphills still can pump 40kmh..... so, be mental, physical n lung ready next time... haha