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 PROTON SAGA BLM, FL, FLX CLUB V35, Hali hali bikin keleta ooh, haiyoh...

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davidke20
post Nov 24 2012, 11:38 PM

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QUOTE(coolkwc @ Nov 24 2012, 11:27 PM)
Today Drove 80km/h on straight with 5th gear, when approach a junction, throttle release, turn left @ around 60km/h. The left corner is slightly up hill, so speed drop to 50km/h. So i press clutch and shift to 3rd gear. Suddenly i lost the power steering, quick look @ the meter the engine stall.

Same speed, same corner, same thing happen again. sleep.gif I feel this is dangerous as i lost power steering suddenly @ corner, aiyo... doh.gif
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Last time dun hab rite hmm.gif I seriously suspect your car got problem now.

1) throttlebody can't close tight, could be too dirty inside, the shaft couldn't close the TB properly
2) vacuum leak
3) injector sumbat, idling too much petrol sprayed out and not misty enough to burn, causes engine choke
4) spark plug got plobrem
5) ignition coil module got plobrem
6) air filter too dirty
7) ECU sot 9 jor (highly unlikely)
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post Nov 24 2012, 11:39 PM

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QUOTE(coolkwc @ Nov 24 2012, 11:27 PM)
Today Drove 80km/h on straight with 5th gear, when approach a junction, throttle release, turn left @ around 60km/h. The left corner is slightly up hill, so speed drop to 50km/h. So i press clutch and shift to 3rd gear. Suddenly i lost the power steering, quick look @ the meter the engine stall.

Same speed, same corner, same thing happen again. sleep.gif I feel this is dangerous as i lost power steering suddenly @ corner, aiyo... doh.gif
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Hi Bro...
Situation yu've experienced is dangerous! sweat.gif
Hv it chk-edn& rectified ASAP lo....Ok?

Be safe...

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post Nov 24 2012, 11:43 PM

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QUOTE(davidke20 @ Nov 24 2012, 11:38 PM)
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Last time dun hab rite hmm.gif I seriously suspect your car got problem now.

1) throttlebody can't close tight, could be too dirty inside, the shaft couldn't close the TB properly
2) vacuum leak
3) injector sumbat, idling too much petrol sprayed out and not misty enough to burn, causes engine choke
4) spark plug got plobrem
5) ignition coil module got plobrem
6) air filter too dirty
7) ECU sot 9 jor (highly unlikely)
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post Nov 24 2012, 11:47 PM

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Hi Bro YAB David... notworthy.gif
Are those yr 68 LEDs bulbs used 4Reverse Lamps??
Gonna hv another Bulk? rolleyes.gif

Anyway, me hv2 say Gnite cos delayed boarding 4my Flight to Nowhereland 2nite liao...
Will chk in here after arr fr Return Flight 2moro morning... cheers.gif
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post Nov 24 2012, 11:51 PM

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QUOTE(davidke20 @ Nov 24 2012, 11:38 PM)
Last time dun hab rite hmm.gif I seriously suspect your car got problem now.

1) throttlebody can't close tight, could be too dirty inside, the shaft couldn't close the TB properly
2) vacuum leak
3) injector sumbat, idling too much petrol sprayed out and not misty enough to burn, causes engine choke
4) spark plug got plobrem
5) ignition coil module got plobrem
6) air filter too dirty
7) ECU sot 9 jor (highly unlikely)
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Happened once before, about 2 months ago, now 2nd time, same corner, same speed, engine stalled, and same advice u gave. blush.gif

1) I seriously suspect this is the main reason too. How to clean it huh? 3 bond?
2) Not sure.
3) How to clean? Injector cleaner?
4) Last time happened before change spark plug, now is after change spark plug, so i think shouldn't caused by plug.
5) Not sure.
6) Air filter just cleaned 3 days before.
7) As you said, highly unlikely, won't so ngam sot at the same corner gua...

This post has been edited by coolkwc: Nov 24 2012, 11:52 PM
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post Nov 25 2012, 12:00 AM

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QUOTE(zeone @ Nov 24 2012, 11:37 PM)
Re tappets, Gagas use hydraulic valve lifters...so tappet clearances are auto/hydraulically adjusted.
No manual adjustment is possible.
Change of EO or use of additives might help improve efficiency and thereby reduce the sound...?

Worst scenario is need to change the lifters themselves... sweat.gif
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the prob when start engine at nigt got this sound about 10-15 second and then hilang,the sound will slow alil bit,
Im driving paling kuat rev pun samapi five only,
How much to change the lifter?
Thanks bro for the feedback biggrin.gif
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post Nov 25 2012, 12:54 AM

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QUOTE(zeone @ Nov 24 2012, 11:47 PM)
Hi Bro YAB David... notworthy.gif
Are those yr 68 LEDs bulbs used 4Reverse Lamps??
Gonna hv another Bulk?  rolleyes.gif

Anyway, me hv2 say Gnite cos delayed boarding 4my Flight to Nowhereland 2nite liao...
Will chk in here after arr fr Return Flight 2moro morning... cheers.gif
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Reverse lamp I use is this 1, 68LEDs icon_idea.gif
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This 1 I plan to install on signal lamp. 44LED oni laugh.gif
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And the unoehuat is 102.... so.... its gonna be crazy flex.gif

QUOTE(coolkwc @ Nov 24 2012, 11:51 PM)
Happened once before, about 2 months ago, now 2nd time, same corner, same speed, engine stalled, and same advice u gave. blush.gif

1) I seriously suspect this is the main reason too. How to clean it huh? 3 bond?
2) Not sure.
3) How to clean? Injector cleaner?
4) Last time happened before change spark plug, now is after change spark plug, so i think shouldn't caused by plug.
5) Not sure.
6) Air filter just cleaned 3 days before.
7) As you said, highly unlikely, won't so ngam sot at the same corner gua...
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U go office "tat" a bottle of contact cleaner lar, I think its very expansive if buy. Contact cleaner is by far the bestest thing I've used to clean throttlebody. It does not degrade most plastic, neither paint nor metal. It's more like a gentle/milder version of engine degreaser. With engine off and NOT under hot condition, remove your whole airbox/induction kit. Use a dry cloth, spray the contact cleaner on it. Use the cloth to wipe the throttlebody.

There may be chance that the ECU will wrongly recognize air flow after clean throttlebody. Kenjilew got this problem before after attempt to clean TB. Idling RPM went sohigh up to 2.5krpm. To reset ECU, open up fuse box inside engine bay, there's a special fuse which is pink color/white color(according to mengsuan it should be pink), remove to clear ECU memory.

QUOTE(MildLO @ Nov 25 2012, 12:00 AM)
the prob when start engine at nigt got this sound about 10-15 second and then hilang,the sound will slow alil bit,
Im driving paling kuat rev pun samapi five only,
How much to change the lifter?
Thanks bro for the feedback biggrin.gif
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Tepet kenot be fix unless you go over haul. To change lifter, its as good as change 1/2 engine.

To ease some pain, you can try use thicker engine oil. Meanwhile, please also check whether you're using Plotong Genuine engine oil filter. Some rubbish cheapjing oil filter does not have 1 way valve. After you shut down engine for long, engine oil will flow back to oil sump, as a result your rocker head is not protected, hence the tepet noise when you initially start the engine. sweat.gif
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post Nov 25 2012, 01:02 AM

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QUOTE(davidke20 @ Nov 25 2012, 12:54 AM)
Reverse lamp I use is this 1, 68LEDs icon_idea.gif
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This 1 I plan to install on signal lamp. 44LED oni laugh.gif
user posted image

And the unoehuat is 102.... so.... its gonna be crazy flex.gif
U go office "tat" a bottle of contact cleaner lar, I think its very expansive if buy. Contact cleaner is by far the bestest thing I've used to clean throttlebody. It does not degrade most plastic, neither paint nor metal. It's more like a gentle/milder version of engine degreaser. With engine off and NOT under hot condition, remove your whole airbox/induction kit. Use a dry cloth, spray the contact cleaner on it. Use the cloth to wipe the throttlebody.

There may be chance that the ECU will wrongly recognize air flow after clean throttlebody. Kenjilew got this problem before after attempt to clean TB. Idling RPM went sohigh up to 2.5krpm. To reset ECU, open up fuse box inside engine bay, there's a special fuse which is pink color/white color(according to mengsuan it should be pink), remove to clear ECU memory.
Tepet kenot be fix unless you go over haul. To change lifter, its as good as change 1/2 engine.

To ease some pain, you can try use thicker engine oil. Meanwhile, please also check whether you're using Plotong Genuine engine oil filter. Some rubbish cheapjing oil filter does not have 1 way valve. After you shut down engine for long, engine oil will flow back to oil sump, as a result your rocker head is not protected, hence the tepet noise when you initially start the engine. sweat.gif
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post Nov 25 2012, 01:07 AM

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any new ECU update for SAGA FL?
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post Nov 25 2012, 01:09 AM

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Guys,

Anyone has a list of bulb sizes for FLX?

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post Nov 25 2012, 01:34 AM

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QUOTE(vampirewong @ Nov 25 2012, 01:09 AM)
Guys,

Anyone has a list of bulb sizes for FLX?
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Headlamp H7
Fog lamp H3
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post Nov 25 2012, 03:10 AM

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QUOTE(nickzkuso @ Nov 25 2012, 01:34 AM)
Headlamp H7
Fog lamp H3
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Thanks for the info. How about front and rear signal and reverse bulb?

This post has been edited by vampirewong: Nov 25 2012, 03:10 AM
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post Nov 25 2012, 08:37 AM

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QUOTE(davidke20 @ Nov 25 2012, 12:54 AM)
Reverse lamp I use is this 1, 68LEDs icon_idea.gif
» Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... «

This 1 I plan to install on signal lamp. 44LED oni laugh.gif
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And the unoehuat is 102.... so.... its gonna be crazy flex.gif
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Hi Bro...
Yup, it's crazy but crazily good! thumbup.gif
Wld b best if Q is juz as good! LEDs supposedly last a "Lifetime"...like forever wan... tongue.gif
But won't b cheap...like these China ones...brows.gif
EG. Philips Ori T10 LEDs for parking lamps cost almost RM100/pair!! whistling.gif

Btw Hi & Good morning, Everyone!! notworthy.gif
Me safely back fr overnight Flight 2Nowhereland...

This post has been edited by zeone: Nov 25 2012, 08:40 AM
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post Nov 25 2012, 08:48 AM

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QUOTE(MildLO @ Nov 24 2012, 11:25 PM)
Same bro like before,nyi nyiitttt,

When car stationary, when want to start drive brake sikit2 got sound nyi..nyiit,nyyyiiittt,

After that a long run,brake2 no sound,

The prob occur when i start kereta jalan sikit break kuat or slow,the bunyi will keluar,

Malu when park at kedai makan and break bunyi2

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It's caused by the brake shoe, I think. Personally I can live with it as long as it's not tak tak tak tak or chit chit chit chit when braking at any speed.

Anyway, if you live in KL, I recommend Apple Auto Proton SC in Sri Kembangan for you brake sound problem.


Added on November 25, 2012, 8:49 am
QUOTE(NewbieBetta @ Nov 25 2012, 01:07 AM)
any new ECU update for SAGA FL?
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Dont think so, since FL ECU same as BLM, it's already proven and running fine for years, unlike FLX.

This post has been edited by dares: Nov 25 2012, 08:49 AM
kenjilew
post Nov 25 2012, 10:08 AM

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QUOTE(dares @ Nov 25 2012, 08:48 AM)
It's caused by the brake shoe, I think. Personally I can live with it as long as it's not tak tak tak tak or chit chit chit chit when braking at any speed.

Anyway,  if you live in KL, I recommend Apple Auto Proton SC in Sri Kembangan for you brake sound problem.


Added on November 25, 2012, 8:49 am

Dont think so, since FL ECU same as BLM, it's already proven and running fine for years, unlike FLX.
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Added on November 25, 2012, 10:12 ambtw... who else interested in MERZ car wash bulk ? nick, dares and me adi submit in... once we get above 10 person then got 10% discount adi !

This post has been edited by kenjilew: Nov 25 2012, 10:12 AM
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post Nov 25 2012, 10:15 AM

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V35 liao~ drool.gif rclxms.gif

Just wondering, can Saga FLX's side mirror auto fold? hmm.gif
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post Nov 25 2012, 10:32 AM

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QUOTE(justhao @ Nov 25 2012, 10:15 AM)
V35 liao~  drool.gif  rclxms.gif

Just wondering, can Saga FLX's side mirror auto fold?  hmm.gif
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Stock kenot. Dunno if there are any aftermarket solutions.


Added on November 25, 2012, 10:33 am
QUOTE(kenjilew @ Nov 25 2012, 10:08 AM)
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Added on November 25, 2012, 10:12 ambtw... who else interested in MERZ car wash bulk ? nick, dares and me adi submit in... once we get above 10 person then got 10% discount adi !
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Forgot to ask....the 10% applies to car wash only? how about wax and polish etc. etc.?

This post has been edited by dares: Nov 25 2012, 10:33 AM
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I was wondering. what's this light bulb left hanging in the boot. I have no idea what's this light bulb for. anyone have any idea?
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QUOTE(justhao @ Nov 25 2012, 10:15 AM)
V35 liao~  drool.gif  rclxms.gif

Just wondering, can Saga FLX's side mirror auto fold?  hmm.gif
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Added on November 25, 2012, 11:20 am
QUOTE(dares @ Nov 25 2012, 08:48 AM)
It's caused by the brake shoe, I think. Personally I can live with it as long as it's not tak tak tak tak or chit chit chit chit when braking at any speed.

Anyway,  if you live in KL, I recommend Apple Auto Proton SC in Sri Kembangan for you brake sound problem.


Added on November 25, 2012, 8:49 am

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oh? This Apple Auto Proton SC pandai fix ini femes tak-tak-tak brake sound praaablem ah?
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QUOTE(dares @ Nov 25 2012, 10:32 AM)
Stock kenot. Dunno if there are any aftermarket solutions.


Added on November 25, 2012, 10:33 am

Forgot to ask....the 10% applies to car wash only? how about wax and polish etc. etc.?
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Ada special price. I can help you discuss with then for best price. Once we got more than 10 on the list u will proceed to get the best price for us.

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ada ni 3rd party solusyen - ALS

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Added on November 25, 2012, 11:20 am

oh? This Apple Auto Proton SC pandai fix ini femes tak-tak-tak brake sound praaablem ah?
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