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post Nov 14 2012, 02:51 PM

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QUOTE(iskazulka @ Nov 14 2012, 12:34 PM)
last time thinking of yokohama tyres, but then that tyre called lanchiao tyres, then maybe opted for continental tyres @ 5C tyres @ CCCCC tyres.
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Ok, quick review as a Continental CC5 owner.

Pros:
1. Dirt cheap, i got mine 150/piece for 175/70/R13.
2. Very silent when new, go through pothole with "tub" sound rather than "bang".
3. Super comfort when new, acceptable even now 33k mileage.
4. Wet grip decent, even running out of thread now. Well, i just compare to crap M3. So far din skid on wet road, last time M3 acc from 0 on wet road will scream if clutch release too fast.

Cons:
1. Well, comfort tyre with soft compound and sidewall, cornering is terrible when new, the body roll is worst. Now harden, so is ok. overall cornering grip is bad, heard creaming couple of time.
2. Silent for 1st 10k, after that thread worn, harden and noisy like previous.
3. Thread wear blazingly fast, now 33k only left 25% thread.
4. Related to 3rd, causing wet corneing grip is terrible. Bad for water clearance too.

So, if you ask me whether i'm going 2nd time for this tyre, the answer is "NO".

My next tyre probably would be Falken.
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Few points i would like to share here.

1. Capacitor run in is a myth, until today. This run in term often used in audiophile, and argueable forewer.

2. The capacitor rated voltage is voltage it can withstand and store before the cap damge. So for a cap with rated 16v and 25v, if both are charged to same voltage, the discharge time will exactly the same, no such thing that if the cap is charged lower than its rated voltage it will discharge quickly.

3. Depends on the R fo LED, LED will drain around 5mA, so when u disconnect from charger, the volltage drop is normal as the charge is drained by LED.

4. i disagree 25v need more time to "run in" compare to 16v cap if charged by same voltage.. Cap will degrade over time, especially inside the engine with high heat, it will accelerate eletrolic dried up inside the cap, thats why solid cap AKA condenser is used by those pivot or whatever well known brand, a year to run in an eletrolytic cap? i will say it performance will reduce rather than 'fully run in and perform better".

5. Again, a cap that always charged near to its rated maximum voltage will degrade faster than charge lower from that. So if i'm going to DIY, at least 25v cap will be used. Our alternator when running is around 14.4, cold start @ 14.8v, is way too near to the 16v limit. DC multimeter can only show average voltage, so the reading is stable, If using osciloscope, u will not surprise if you find the spike with higher voltage than that.

6. Capacitance will increase in high temp, as high as +20% from the rated capacitance. So it is not surprise if the performance after u purposely charge or after long run is differ than cold start.

7. The reason why higher voltage (25v) is not used in commercial product is mainly due to more expensive and size is larger, accomodate for the cap require larger casing, so further increase the cost.



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QUOTE(dares @ Nov 14 2012, 09:39 PM)
I was thinking why the VS was able to improve throttle response, then I remember V12k last time ter-pasang the Firestorm onto his ECU and got WTFBBQ throttle response.

Maybe it has something to do with stable / improved voltage supply to the ECU?
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VS does prolong the battery life time. When our car is running, VS keep charge from alternator, after we switch off the engine, the charge from VS is kept and discharge to battery or self discharge overtime. After that when we restart engine, starter will draw very high current. This is why CCA (cold cranking ampere) is important. Now VS especially those with larger capacitance will play a role. The current draw by starter will draw simultaneouly from cap and battery, so it helps to reduce load from battery.

My car now 3 years 2 months still with stock RAMCAR battery, i think VS help abit.
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QUOTE(davidke20 @ Nov 14 2012, 10:13 PM)
Thanks for the info. I have little knowledge in electronic engineering
I do not disagree with you as I have no prove to all that. The only thing I know is, this morning the engine response was not there despite its in my engine bay for 3 months. It happened AFTER the VS being charged for 2 hours with the battery itself. It could be the battery, not the VS. But so far I'm amazed and surprised by the performance I have, despite its incomparable with the f***er who poisoned me. Anyway, I see some lights now and will move forward. I'll be taking out the possibility of getting the RM860 VS. I'll move forward with a sound grounding kit and the huge ass welding cable as soon as I hold some solid info rolleyes.gif

Btw, thanks for spend time educating me. Learnt alot from your post. icon_rolleyes.gif May be I should go and buy a 250V 1.5Farad cap and plonk it inside my boot laugh.gif
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To be honest, i really thought before to buy those audio used cap and used as VS. That one is way better than i DIY a large capacitor bank. The reason why i still yet to DIY is becos i can't find a proper way to accomodate the capacitor bank. tongue.gif

Anyway, those grouding cable is just noticeable for old car, as the old cable conductivity is reduce and fatigue, for new car the effect might negligible. If you rich enough, change all the cables (including positive cable) to huge ass welding cable will see the effect. laugh.gif

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QUOTE(sg999 @ Nov 14 2012, 10:27 PM)
for new car the effect might negligible.
I disagree with this point especially for campro car.
GC is definately needed for campro user.
I do not know wtf is proton doing when produce SAGA
perhaps copper now a day expensive, they try to reduce gc as much as possible?
try to find where is the ori gc of ur SAGA and u will c how come the wire is so thin???~~~~~~ shocking.gif  shocking.gif  shocking.gif


Added on November 14, 2012, 10:29 pm
f***er here laugh.gif
another interesting issue here
ur battery has memory also.
do u believe it?
last time i tried remove my vs
i drive for 3days i still can feel the effect
after that it only slowly degrade  hmm.gif
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GC cable not nessasary need large diameter. Why nowadays all is called "multi-point grouding cable'?

Those GC cable main purpose is not carry high cuurent only, it actually connect the particular point and make it "fully grouded', AKA 0v. Ori car normally just have 1 or 2 grouding points from battery terminal to car body at the engine bay. Means our car body is actually in ground potential (0v) from +ve point of view. But does it really @ ground for whole chassis if the grouding point is at, let say th front of engine bay? The answer is NO.

Car body is constructed from joining all the panel. So from panel to panel, all are connected by bolt, and panel is not a perfect conductor. So when we connect, let say audio amp, normally shop will connect negative terminal to car body at cabin. However car body @ cabin is not nessasary equal to 0v, due to panel to panel resistance and resstance of the pnel itself. So when current flow from battery +ve to amp and loop back to battery -ve through car body, voltage drop exist across the panel, let say 1 volt voltage drop across the panel, means now from the point of view of amp +ve terminal refer to amp -ve terminal, the effective voltage across the amp is just 11v, as 1v is drop by panel, result? amp is not running at optimum level, therefore performance will drop. Imagine if all the electrical devices in car such as spark plug, lamp etc also use this kind of connection, what will happen is the performance will reduce.

Therefore this is where the GC play its role. By connect all those GC from battery -ve terminal directly to multi points such as engine block, firewall etc, is to make that point directly grounded same as battery -ve to ensure the ground current can loop back to -ve as short as possible, so that voltage drop across ground loop is eliminate and ensure electrical devices to run @ max performance.

So even our stock ground cable is huge ass cable also useless if the grouding point is just at one particular point.

In simple word, the correct way to connect in car electrical device is connect -ve to battery -ve directly by wire rather than connect to car body, this is what assesories shop refuse to do due to extra cable cost, let say if ur amp is located @ boot. laugh.gif
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QUOTE(sg999 @ Nov 14 2012, 11:28 PM)
so how come there is a singificant improment of performance after installed gc?
especially for AT
placebo perhaps? wink.gif
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I din say GC will not improve perfomance.

Just that i feel ur concept of GC is incorrect. especially you said stock grouding cable is thin.

The main point i would like to stress is "multi-point", not thickness. If just about thickness, wouldn't just connect 5 cables paralel to the ori cable will do? wink.gif
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QUOTE(SiuYi @ Nov 14 2012, 11:30 PM)
so from ur point of view, thickness if cable is negligible? the conductive level too? say some use copper, some say platinum coated, so gold plated and whatsoever, some say china steel, or cap ayam metal...consider ok la? janji it is pointing towards the -ve terminal? no matter is 5 - 1 - -ve or 5 - -ve? janji ada connected is ok jor? hmm.gif
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I use phone to type all this, so i can't draw, u just try to imagine.

1. from +ve batt cable to device +ve, device -ve cable to panel A, grounding cable from panel A to -ve of batt.

so now voltage drop is exist in cable from +ve batt to device, cable from device -ve to panel A, and grouding cable from panel A to -ve of batt. You see, actually ur whole connection about this device involve 3 cable system, grouding cable is just one out of 3 cables from these system. Let say all these 3 cable is same material and lenght, and voltage drop due to resistance of these cable is 0.5v each cable, means effective voltage for device is just 12-(0.5x3) = 10.5v.

Now u try to improve groudin cable, which i told, one out of 3 total cable, u use the highest grade and very thick cable for that, what u do is u successfully reduce until 0v for this cable, means now ur device effective voltage will increase by 0.5v to 11v, therefore performance improved.

So how about left over 2 cables?? Well, u can change to same grade as used in GC too, but the cons is expensive and impractical.

Like what i said just now, eliminate groudin cable, and connect device -ve directly to -ve battery, while upgrade whole cabling sytem using better quality cable also can improve performance significantly.

If u understand what i said, a electrical device connection is just a loop, GC is just a terms to diffentiate it potential is at "ground" from -ve, thats all. laugh.gif

Theory finish, quick answer to ur question.
1. Thickness, material and lenght does affect.
2. 5-(-) batt is way better than 5-1-batt, now u are not bikin extractor wei laugh.gif

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QUOTE(davidke20 @ Nov 15 2012, 12:14 AM)
I'm at the exact opposite side, my lecturer said I should have gone engineer instead of computer science because I brain in PICTURE. If you know what I mean, you start to draw diagram in your mind from what coolkwc wrote, then its easy to understand sleep.gif
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seriously u should gone mechanical engineer and we partner open a assesories shop, u mainly for engine part, i mainly for electrical part, we cons 9 customers with air surbo, GC etc.... laugh.gif
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QUOTE(dares @ Nov 15 2012, 09:26 AM)
The Polo sedan is the most pointless product from VW in this market. It doesnt have the performance of its slightly more expensive siblings, but it is more expensive than most B segment sedans here. Even if it may have better NVH and build quality, but I would much rather get the City or Forte in that price bracket.

The only reason ppl buy is is for its badge.
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Yesterday i went to Ipoh Parade, they is Almera exhibition inside. So i just go see see touch touch.

The car size is amazing, i think it is largest B segment car in market now. Cabin got so many space (sorry to say saga lost 9 street), if i still remember the cabin size is on par with so called C segment Preve, and the boot is almost 1.5 times larger than Saga. With price range of 70-80k, i think this car is going to sell like hot cake.
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QUOTE(eqmal197 @ Nov 16 2012, 02:52 PM)
gud afternoon

gpmm, try yuasa brand  thumbup.gif
i've stick to this brand for my ex-iswara and ex-camry. really serve me well
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I heard this is good brand, the nickel plate inside is more than other brand in the range.


Added on November 16, 2012, 5:15 pm
QUOTE(GP mad man @ Nov 16 2012, 03:16 PM)
shocking.gif how come they told me RAMCAR is dry bat...
i still pandai2 ask him, can i refill the liquid in bat, then he said only can change as it is dry type  unsure.gif
my 1st time, i scare...
actually now my car still quite smooth to crank...
TOUCH WODD ph34r.gif
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Ask them faster get married la... tongue.gif

RAMCAR is maintananece free wet batt lei geh, RM290 is over price la, obviously they try to con u...

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QUOTE(zeone @ Nov 18 2012, 08:36 AM)
Who? hmm.gif rclxub.gif


Added on November 18, 2012, 8:37 amps. Good Sunday, Everyone!! notworthy.gif


Added on November 18, 2012, 8:44 amBtw there used 2b lotsa ppl saying our Gagas KENOT use FS EO!! whistling.gif
Me oledi using Shell Helix Ultra FS EO...
Feeling good abt it!!! thumbup.gif
Oledi bought another bottle @Tesco...on offer! RM129 only!! tongue.gif

May go back 2Mobil 1 FS altho 5W50 cos served my ole ride VERY WELL during its lifetime with me... smile.gif
Mayb when my Gaga a bit older? rolleyes.gif
NB. Me only Unker Driver...no speed wan or quick take-off...no worry abt FC...
So tiny bit diff in those aspects not of concern. Juz wanna my Gaga still "young" inside long long time nia. cheers.gif
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5W50 worst for FC?? rolleyes.gif Nvm, i just bought one from Tesco just now...will test it out since my FC is quite constant.
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QUOTE(iskazulka @ Nov 19 2012, 09:15 AM)
dear sleepy z1,
MF wet Batt3, how much time distance needed for topping up?
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According to manufacturer, MF wet batt normally no need to top up over its operation life. MF batt electrolyte is formulated such that it won't consume alot of water during charge-discharge cycle compare to non-MF. But MF batt is not long life as NON MF primarily due to water inside dried up itself.

The this RAMCAR, it will only loss unnoticeable water after half year. Last time i also started to top up after 2 years usage, after that 6 months later, and it virtually no loss in water. Don top up too often as the plastic screw thread will gone easily as this is not intended built for this purpose.
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QUOTE(iskazulka @ Nov 19 2012, 01:33 PM)
i just top up last friday after 1 1/2 year usage. IINM, for 1L bottle, used 50-75% of it to topup.
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Yup, 1st time top up will need alot of water, after that check every 6 months is enough already.


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QUOTE(Mahihi @ Nov 19 2012, 02:39 PM)
lols,the vdo ecu meant is for wira oni,so far tis is the oni obd dat can be used with 16 bit ecu....tq
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So my Conti 16bit ECU also can read la? drool.gif

I think YAB got big interest. brows.gif

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QUOTE(Mahihi @ Nov 19 2012, 03:47 PM)
Yes can.....the pic is 16 bit ecu...
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Ya, is 16 bit, but BLM got 2 different brand of ECU.

Some is Siemens, some is CONTINENTAL. Just wonder both protocol is it same or not.
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QUOTE(davidke20 @ Nov 19 2012, 03:50 PM)
No wor. I want got LCD display geh, dun wan blutoot rolleyes.gif
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QUOTE(zeone @ Nov 19 2012, 04:23 PM)
Oh? Me go chk Apps Store 4more info.... brows.gif
TQVM 4abv info, Bro YAB!!  notworthy.gif
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Brother Yang Amat Berhormat? Seems weird hmm.gif
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QUOTE(eqmal197 @ Nov 19 2012, 04:31 PM)
guys, tell me the best VS for flx  brows.gif
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Let's tell us what is ur expectation towards VS?
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QUOTE(davidke20 @ Nov 19 2012, 07:25 PM)
1) Changing petrol every tank. He uses 1 tank BhP, follow by another tank of any other brand. His preference is BhP, but the next tank he will choose some other petrol. He doesn't know why, but if he uses BhP continuously, he can only achive between 13-14km/l. I took a wild guess, to confuse the ECU, do not let it adapt to similar firing sequence/ignition timing. 1 tank 14km/l, another tank 16km/l. Everytime RM38/20litre. Sometimes 320km lite up, sometimes 280 lite up.
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Regarding this point, i did experience exactly before. I can get better FC when i switch petrol brand, but will settle down on 2nd tank.

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