Hi,

I'm first year student of chemical engineering. I going to have summer holiday from april until september and I want to find internsip traning. Can anyone tell me how to apply? the work location preferable in selangor or kuala lumpur or pork dickson.

Thanks a lot.

hey ya, tell u something, confident is a very important point.... every company look forward to have employees with high confidence. u should believe that u have the qua;ification to get into any of the companies regardless whether its oversea or a local company. try out all the companies, be confident and show ur willingness to learn. Yes, u're still a student, but that doesnt means that u'll not going to be 'somebody' sometime in the future. u know what, i've been in Shell fpor internship last year... when i check back with my seniors, i heard that none of them have ever go for internship in Shell. i asked y? they said, 'errrmmm... tat is a big company, i dun think they will accept us'.... my God..... they din even try..... when i went to Shell, the employees there told me that they have been waiting for interns to come for years, but there's not much student that had applied for any intership program wt shell.... so, could u see the point? dun say no be4 u even try... it will only be a waste of chance. Maybe you're able to get in any of the international companies, but u urself who jeopardise the chance... relax, and be enthusiastic if u wan something better fpr urself. cheers and good luck!

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Added on April 25, 2008, 2:05 pmmy friend went for shell srd before. she said that the most important thing that they are looking for is your ability of looking for long-term solution in every question given by them. also, they wan to know whether ur management skill is good or not, that it, whether or not u could differentiate or determine the real important point in any of the situation given. u'll be questioned a lot, but just be relax... otherwise, u'll really feel stress bout it... be ypurself and dun try to be smart... give the answer after u think bout it properly, coz they will always see whether there's any contradiction in the answer given by u. they're really pro in determine whether u're telling the truth or not...

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Added on April 25, 2008, 2:17 pmi agree... dun u think its better to get more experince from other service or oil companies which could offer u wt variety of intense training then sticking wt petronas which is a bit 'relaxing' company? Also, u rather to be bonded even when there're other companies which could offer u with much higher salary tat enable u to pay back the ptptn in a very short time, perhaps 1-2 years. if u ever go to petronas, dun even think of going to Shell... they are 'enemies'. After u finish ur contract wt petronas, they have the choice of either dumping u, or keeping u, depending on ur performance. By that time, u keep to review ur own capability and what have u learn in petronas before u apply for other company. i dun think there's many companies out there who willing to accept someone who're being dumped, except if u're the one who dump the company. so, think about it properly. i dun say that petronas is not a good company, but i rather said that its a safe option when u've work in other O&G companies for perhaps 10 or 20 years and you're thinking of having a 'calm' life.

This post has been edited by christine85: Apr 25 2008, 02:17 PM

thanks christine! I'm confident, I'm just talking about overseas companies in the sense of applying for internship overseas. Anyway, I see your point. You did internship at shell before? Where is that? In Port Dickson? May I know what steps you took to land the gig? Thanks in advance, just trying to learn the ropes here.

welcome yea, been in shell last year, in miri.... the interview is quite simple, just a phone call interview, with 3 main questions, which are, '' about yourself, apart from academic achievement', 'how would u react with a given situation', and the role of something, for example, jail. The last question is pretty tough, cause you would never expect the kind of question they give u. They like to ask why, how, what etc, the 5 W to make sure whether or not u know what u're talking about... for me, it takes around 1 and a half hour, but guess what, u'll never know it took so long when u have points to say. they always wan listen to long term answer, not the short one.... The internship period took about 10weeks, and honestly, it was great. really unforgetable. WHY? the first reason is the culture. ppl there are really nice, i means those i work with, at least. They are really helpful, warm and trying to help u to adjust with the surrounding. teamwork is the thing that they are emphasizing on. Not selfishness, or backstabbing. Second, they are really serious bout the training. i heard that some companies didnt really care much about the trainings, perhaps becoz they think that interns would mot be able to catch much within the short period, but not for shell. they make sure that u learn as much things as u could. Not only for me, but for other inters in other departments as well. Also, the HR ppl always gather all the interns so that we could mix well and at least have some same-age companions. Manager and co-workers work together in order to breakdown the gap between them. Besides, they have work hard play hard on every 3rd friday of the month. sometimes they'll hold some activities on day, eg: charity work etc. Another reason that makes me enjoy this period so much is because of the ppl i know there, including all the interns from other universities in malaysia, and one from holland, and the staffs there as well. i dunno how to describe it in detail but we just mix so well and there's clique within each ppl in the group. we share each other's experience in our own department, the assignment given and gives opinion in everything we do. short but sweet. We also join the Gawai celebration in June(the celebration of sarawak's bumiputere). One more important thing is to work closely wt ur manager, which will help u a lot if u decide to work wt shell in the future. they are really frank and direct in asking whether u have the interest to work wt them or not. As for me, honestly, i told them that i wan to try out service company first before going back to oil company. the main reason is becos they dun have any vessel, and that the training given by the service company will be far more intense than the oil company like shell. My colleagues there also advice me to try out other companies out there first before going back to shell becoz once u have the experience, u'll be very valuable especially in the huge oil companies. That is for me, a geophysicist however, they have platform etc, so still ok for engineers who want to work offshore... hehe.... that is my experience. wish u all da best and hope that u know what am i talking about...

P/s: The allowance quite high o~ its rm900, among the highest after schlumberger(rm1000).

This post has been edited by christine85: Apr 25 2008, 04:15 PM

i just got a bad news from Schlumberger...the HR ppl told me that they made a mistake...according to the HR Ass.Recruiter --> at 1st the Egypt Management ppl stated that they want 2 processing engineer but last two days when the Egypt Land Operation Manager come over to KL..he said that he only want '1' processing engineer and must be a female....oh my god!!!!!!!this is a really bad news for me....sigh...i wonder how come such thing could happened in a big company like this?wat the heck with their systems???really disappointed!!!!! Thn, the HR Ass. Recruiter told me that she already send my details to the Western Geco DP segment which I will be based in office n will become Christine85 colleague IF AND ONLY IF I PASS THE FINAL INTERVIEW AGAIN!!!!!!!!!!!! Now waiting for my Final Interview confirmation mail again and they MEAN it the FINAL INTERVIEW......I've a bad day!!!!dun like to be based in office...dull life plus lower salary....Hope i can pass the final interview or is it their excuse to ask me to go for the final interview n later tell me that im failed???really sad and disappointed......

-kevin-

Guys, usually how long does it take to know your final interview result? I had my 2nd face to face interview with Shell about a month ago and until today no results has been given. i was told after the interview it would take around 2 weeks for the final decision. I've checked my status online and it's still under final assessment. I've called the HR a week ago and they too haven't got any info from the respective dept.

I have received an offer from another company but I've been stalling my answer. Btw, do they let you know via mail if you're not selected? Thanks!

Thanks for the insight christine. Just one more question, how to apply? I am confused as to the division between East and West Malaysia for Shell application...my friend interned at PD which is WM and when I asked him, he said to apply online through the website but when I visit the website, I get lost in it.

Basically, do I need to choose whether to apply for East or West Malaysia and can apply for both or I just submit one application and they will determine the placement? How did you apply?

Apply through the website.
There should be a column for "student internship application" under "Job & Careers".

For internship, its really depend on luck.
You may pass the interview which is easy if you ask me but u may not get any placement at all............ [ I'm one of them....no placement, don't pass so many people.....give people false hope]

They will ask you where you interested to base at during the phone interview.

This post has been edited by allenultra: Apr 26 2008, 01:46 PM

hmm... i admit that Shell's system is a bit slow... perhaps u should check the benefit of the company that offer u first and compare it wt shell's.... i bet u'll be suprised to know the benefits and salary etc of each of companies. also it depends on the HR ppl whether or not they give u any reply on whether u made it or not. Or, pretty hard to say. Anyway, my advise it keep pushing them and check ur status continuously while try to drag the date onconfirming about the offer as long as u could. but of coz, dun mention to the company tat offer you about yourself waiting for another answer from shell.... Good luck..

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Added on April 26, 2008, 10:23 pmhmm.... i dont remember much, but of course its better to choose the one nearest to ur hometown. if u're west malaysian, just take west malaysian or otherwise, if u're east malaysian. tell u secret ''actually shell is more keen to take east malaysian nowadays since the reservoir there is quite big, and there's not enough human resource there''. that is the thing that a HR ppl told me.

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Added on April 26, 2008, 10:38 pmhey, Kevin, dun say that it is a dull life be4 u experience it... Office life is surely different from the land operation life but that does not means that it will be dull or boring. i believe u lknow that they do offer lots of training etc which perhaps will make u too busy to learn new things until no time to think whether or not its boring or dull..... Different companies diff culture. Dont utilise or compare wat u see or experience in sapura crest with schlumberger which u havent even work wt be4. Like what i always said, Experience first be4 u leave any comment. Many ppl out there who have better qualification than u do beg to work wt SLB. SO, stop complaining and be contented wt wat u get, otherwise, yet another chance will slip away like wat u just experiencee. U're just a fresh grad, 5k is already a lot compare to other jobs. I think its better for u to anticipate about wat u will learn and what u could do for the company instead of how much u'll earn or wat the company could give u becoz the experience is the thing that will make u valuable, not the placement or whatever.

This post has been edited by christine85: Apr 26 2008, 10:43 PM

I got an offer from Shell within a day of the interview. I did tell them up front that I had another offer waiting (which was true). If it's been a month then I would not put my hopes up too high, but I'd certainly bug HR to give a yes/no answer ASAP.

I have a friend passed the SRD.
Shell want him but he said he hope to stay in the current company to learn for a bit more time.
Shell willing to wait for him, at least for the time being.
Basically an offer letter without date, not sure how long will offer last still though.


christine85, I know a project manager just quited from my company Miri branch. He complained life in Miri just too slow, can't use to it.

Thanks guys for the info. Looks like I will give this week the last before deciding my answer. If there's still no outcome of the result, then I'll move on. Though to have two offers on the table would be nice. Thanks again guys! Good luck to all of you looking for a better career.

`i agree... dun u think its better to get more experince from other service or oil companies which could offer u wt variety of intense training then sticking wt petronas which is a bit 'relaxing' company? Also, u rather to be bonded even when there're other companies which could offer u with much higher salary tat enable u to pay back the ptptn in a very short time, perhaps 1-2 years. if u ever go to petronas, dun even think of going to Shell... they are 'enemies'. After u finish ur contract wt petronas, they have the choice of either dumping u, or keeping u, depending on ur performance. By that time, u keep to review ur own capability and what have u learn in petronas before u apply for other company. i dun think there's many companies out there who willing to accept someone who're being dumped, except if u're the one who dump the company. so, think about it properly. i dun say that petronas is not a good company, but i rather said that its a safe option when u've work in other O&G companies for perhaps 10 or 20 years and you're thinking of having a 'calm' life.`

Christine, so u are saying that other companies give their emplyoyees a better life compared to petronas. Well, i`m hoping 2 study in petronas..so wat happens if i get their convertible loan here? Throw it away n apply 4 ptptn? So yur main point is to encourage me to study in petronas uni without their scholarship 1st, then run to other company after i`m graduated frm petronas? Tell me more...thz...

pc123, I'm not quite sure how the petronas scholarship (convertable loan) running in UTP. I don't think christine can answer you on that, she's in USM.

As far as I know, when u receive the offer to study in UTP, it comes with the scholarship. So take it or lose both.

Your best bet will be, take the scholarship if you get into UTP, do well in your study.
Pray hard that you don't get recommended by Petronas and they willing to release you for a small amount of fee.

Else, take loan/starting saving now to pay back the loan when you ready to break the bond.

If you joining UTP without petronas scholarship, you still stand a chance to grab JPA/Mara[if u are bumiputra] scholarship which usually unlikely to be bonded.

Think about it after you receive the offer.
If you joining UTP this july, find me while I'm still there

yea... Another thing is that if Petronas din give u any posting within 6months, u'll be dropped from their list and u wont need to pay back any money to them...

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Added on April 27, 2008, 8:02 pmHmm, im not saying a better life, but rather, it will be more challenging if u work in other companies first. Also, dont forget, we're in Malaysia, i dunno what's ur race but Malays always have the priority to go up faster (sorry, i dont mean to offend anyone, just tat it is what's happening there). bout the scholarship, i really dunno much bout it, but if there's a choice, honestly i would like to be independent rather than bonded.

This post has been edited by christine85: Apr 27 2008, 08:02 PM

Will, Security Technology (IT) fresh grads get a chance to enter Oil & Gas industry? If yes, will we be able to get high pay?

I'll be going for internship next month and was offered a place at ExxonMobil but had to turn it down because I had already gotten a place at F-Secure. Did I make a bad decision here? Will it be easier to get into ExxonMobil by going through the internship?

What kinda jobs (if any) do IT grads do in the offshore rigs?

I hope someone will be kind enough to give me some answers.

Thanks.

If you ask me, I would join Exxonmobile
unless F-secure really give u what u want to study.

Since u already made the decision, do not doubt yourself.

In oil n gas sector, not only offshore work pay well.
Even office based pay well too

I'm a security major and F-Secure is a security company so my skills would best serve them rather than ExxonMobil but I still wish I could get into Exxon later on after my internship.

The only reason why I'd like to enter ExxonMobil or any other Oil & Gas company would be because of the fat paycheck that comes with the job. I know there are some jobs in the O & G industry that doesn't pay much but I'd like to be optimistic.

This post has been edited by NicholasG5: May 3 2008, 01:24 AM

hey guys i'm just wondering, do o&g companies offer internship or summer job(during academic break) for 1st year students?Currently i'm doing petroleum engineering. I want to build my career portfolio and also to experiences life on the rig. Actually a management guy did offer me and my friends summer jobs in Aussie, just wondering would it be better if i finish my 2nd year or is it better to start early?

christine85, thanks for your posting in this topic, really appreciate your feed-back and opinion.

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hey guys i'm just wondering, do o&g companies offer internship or summer job(during academic break) for 1st year students?Currently i'm doing petroleum engineering. I want to build my career portfolio and also to experiences life on the rig. Actually a management guy did offer me and my friends summer jobs in Aussie, just wondering would it be better if i finish my 2nd year or is it better to start early?

christine85, thanks for your posting in this topic, really appreciate your feed-back and opinion.

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hi there, first of all, welcome, its my pleasure to share my experience and opinions. Bout the internship, i would advice u to go for it. Actually last time when i was shell there's a intern from holland who actually did the internship twice in Malaysia here. i dunno why, but i think its because her dad is in shell, and she could gain more experience and try new things in different department to reveal her interest in oil and gas industry. Today, u're given a chance to start it early, so, i think it will be good for u to try it out. I mean, u can also have it for the second time if u like it after u experience it for the first time. frankly it will be a good thing to be written in ur resume because at least it reflect that u're a kind of person who likes to learn new things. Trust me, though i havent start to work, i believe tat nobody wan to involve in technical thing for the rest of their life. perhaps after 10 or 20 years, many ppl would like to switch to the management side which is less tedious and could earn even more money. Also, u could get a picture for urself of which line tat would make u interested in more. Believe me, ppl with more experience is always more precious than book worm because it could make u look further into the future and ideas given by experienced ppl is always more concrete and useful as well. So, my advice it, start to involve in the society earlier, get the experience, and never stop learning. all da best!