[quote=jikass01,Apr 22 2008, 11:55 PM]anyone working here in sapura crest? how's life thr? any tips?

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well..i intern there b4 as a geophysicist...i will say it quite ok ther but salary is kinda low...rm1600 per month...6 month probation..after 6 month probation thn ur salary will be revised...u can get 2k....offshore allowances is rm120 per day......life is tough there coz ther is no rotation...once u go to offshore n back...u dint have holiday..u continue to work.....exchange ur offshore holiday with money....they are doin survey mostly in sabah,sarawak,vung tau(vietnam), and thailand. nw they going to explore russia....one of my colleague..he move to the party chief position in 3 years time only.....n 1 more she jump to SLB d after working there for 3 years..thats all i know....last time during my intern..i din get my comp to use....n u need to share table coz places is limited..bear with it coz the data center is small...thats all i can share...

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Hi Kevin & Christine,

Yes - I am with BH INTEQ. LWD field engineer based in Qatar, on rotational. Life's good, but USD depreciation affected nearly everyone in this region dealing with Oil & Gas! I call it involuntary pay cut... Sigh...

Well, soon you both will join the ranks in SLB, and I can only wish you both the best. Oh yeah, safety driving courses, offshore safety and helicopter emergency training - you'll love those things...

I am getting so weary of tomorrow's prospect, rigging down...

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thanks kslee for ur wishes....hope i will get my offer letter soon..till now dint have any news yet from them alto schedule to fly to middle east end of this month....


This post has been edited by kevinling: Apr 23 2008, 04:21 AM

Hey thanks all for your replies! Really helpful stuff there.

Alright I can now confim that it's done inside the KLCC shopping mall, on the 4th floor. Should be TTMC then. I really do hope that most of u guys are right and really really hope that forrest is just pulling my leg about balls and stick. Looks like i'm gonna get victimised, will report back after i complete my medical!



if that happens to me and it's an asian nurse saying that instead of a big black nurse, i duno how i'll ever have the confidence to meet a girl anymore.

Technip, RWP, MMC, RNZ, Intec, Pegasus, JP Kenny, Aker Kvaerner
Exxonmobil, Shell, Petronas, Talisman, Murphy Oil, Nippon Oil
MMHE, SDE, Ramunia, Kencana, Brooke
Global Offshore, TL Offshore, Mcdermott
Schlumberger, Baker Hughes, Haliburton

General Electric Oil n Gas, Aramis, Dialog.......

tons of them !!!!

too bad... oldman uncle doctor examined me...

relax lah... a simple and very quick checkup, not the "bad scenario" that you are thinking now...

maybe no one want to touch you.. lol..

Hi everyone,
Lucky me to have stumble upon this page. Well, I`m still a student. Spm leaver currently. I`m interested in this OnG field. So, I want to know more about Petrol Engineering. Mind to answer all my questions? Help pls. Here are my questions:

1. Everyday life as an offshore P.E.
a). Working hours (12 hours shift that i noe. About the off days..i
heard it`s work n` off in ratio of 3-1 month? Or is it 2-2 weeks?
Another friend of mine said he heard it`s work n off 3-1 year.) Is
this working package? Lol..jk..which is true?
b). Dirty job? (I mean we are to work under the Sun n`sweat all
day?)
c). Is it considered a tough job? (Insufficient slp? pressure? Gota be
very fit to cope with the weather at sea?)
2. Salary.
a). The office job`s salary? (there is office job right?)
b). The offshore`s salary? (i noe it`s high, i just want comparison
between office n` offshore)
3. Oil depletion. This is an issue nowadays. I`ve read b4 sum sites
stating that oil will be depleted by 2080. But many said oil will be
depleted by next decade. By the year i`m graduate would be year
2014. So is there no hope for my generation to persue P.E.? Or would
the old depletion prob be faced by the next generation?
4. Others..
a). Do they check for colour blind employees? Or izzit non-related?
b). Do P.Engineers work in offices? Or is it the job of IT pro n`
bissiness pro? I mean engineers working in office would be funny
right?
c). Is P.E. job a popular among malays? I mean i dun wan to end up
working in an environment of 80% malay employees. Is there a
lot of chinese in this field?

I`ve just attended the educamp of Petronas Uni. Well, I still have doubts about setting up my mind for Petrol enginneer. Is working with Petronas in the future a good choice? Tell me..reply..thanks..

[quote=kevinling,Apr 23 2008, 04:18 AM]
well..i intern there b4 as a geophysicist...i will say it quite ok ther but salary is kinda low...rm1600 per month...6 month probation..after 6 month probation thn ur salary will be revised...u can get 2k....offshore allowances is rm120 per day......life is tough there coz ther is no rotation...once u go to offshore n back...u dint have holiday..u continue to work.....exchange ur offshore holiday with money....they are doin survey mostly in sabah,sarawak,vung tau(vietnam), and thailand. nw they going to explore russia....one of my colleague..he move to the party chief position in 3 years time only.....n 1 more she jump to SLB d after working there for 3 years..thats all i know....last time during my intern..i din get my comp to use....n u need to share table coz places is limited..bear with it coz the data center is small...thats all i can share...

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kevinling,

thx for sharing the experience. i was called to attend an interview sumwhr nxt week at sri kembangan. the post offered was "Management & Engineering Associate Programme". what is this actually? the JD was quite brief.. ('http://my.jobstreet.com/jobs/2008/1/s/10/558978.htm?fr=J',650,600)

That's a lot of choices...but are they all overseas companies? I dare not set my sights too high, was hoping to get placement somewhere in Malaysia but I don't really know the proper way.

So far I have explored some companies website such as Exxonmobil and Cameron and found that all of them have online systems where you submit in a resume. I'm still a student, haven't had working experience yet so I don't know what to include in my resume. Anybody been down this road before and can share or point me in the right direction?

This post has been edited by reign226: Apr 23 2008, 11:54 PM

i try to give you a simplify and easy answer to ease your understanding about O&G. But before this, you need to know what is P.E. stand for. Even through you finish study your degree in engineering, what is the difference between you and P.E. , dont ask me, find yourself.

In O&G, you need to work with all kind of ppl, you have no right of choice who to work with whether you like it or not. I would say that is the minimum requirement to join O&G as ppl there do not encourage skin color or racist. Skin color is not the thing for you to worry about, you should worry what type of ppl you are working with, most of the ppl who working on the rig usually is rough neck, hot temper.

Work in O&G is a very tough as you need to be physically fit and mentally fit as well. You might need to work physically for more than 24~36hrs, under the hot sun, cold weather, rough environment (whole body surrounded by metal and oil), and yet you need to do it without any doubt, no room for error, and after all you still need to use your mind to do paper work, reporting and the report need to be professionally presentable in everyday basis whether you got the time or not, you like it or not, you still have to finish it. You need to be communicating with other ppl all the time throughout your on shift or working hour.

That's what i encounter as a field engineer on site (not working in office), not sure about others. But i believe it would be the same or might be even worst than mine. That's all i can tell you.

This post has been edited by iDk: Apr 24 2008, 12:08 AM

do a google yourself about the company location, spoonfeed is not the culture here.

pc123, UTP Petroleum Engineering should be a good course. Its pretty similiar to mechanical engineering if you ask me. At least the basic of mechanical engineering covered in PE programme outline.
Working in Petronas? why Petronas when there are so many companies out there?

Being a petronas scholar in UTP, especially Petroleum Engineering may not be a good thing when u review back after u grad.

I'm only interested to answer 2 of your questions.

According to BP Statistical Review of World Energy, the oil reserves still can last for about 40 years, based on current reserves and consumption rate. That's why we need to explore more new resources in deeper reservoir, deepwater environment, complex earth structure, squeeze more oil from brown field with EOR (enhance oil recovery)... etc...

You will free from financial problem if you receive the scholarship, but you will be bonded for 8-10years. I saw few of the first class/oversea engineering graduates end up working in management department. HR placed them.
If you are hardworking, work smart, you don't have any problem to work at anywhere.

Sorry if I give the impression of trying to be spoonfed. I'm merely thinking that it would be wise to learn from other people's experiences, that's what I am looking for.

No, I don't think oil will deplete in 2008. What you are looking for is the word peak oil, where production peaks and after that oil production figures will only go down. It's a slower slide towards anarchy than having your oil resources gone overnight, =)

shell SRD - anyone has any idea what to expect?

Alright thanks for your answers.

1). Okay i understand physically n` mentally fit. What about the off days? I want to noe how long I would be missing my loved ones.

2). Is there any1 working in office now? tell me more about it. Tell me the $$$ eventho it isn`t that much.

3). Oil deplete by around 2050. Alright got it.

4). Yeah i understand i wrote a stupid ques asking bout racist stuffs. I understand now, thanks. How about colour blind ppl? This ques frm my fren.

I`m just a SPM leaver. I once tot of getting SHELL schola,but they required A-levels. So, one of the fastest way is to get PETRONAS schola right? So, you are saying working with petronas isn`t that good? I understand the 10 years bondage period but 10 years I guess nvm 1 la right?

Well I need to noe more about the office job. Any1 working in office?

`You will free from financial problem if you receive the scholarship, but you will be bonded for 8-10years. I saw few of the first class/oversea engineering graduates end up working in management department. HR placed them.
If you are hardworking, work smart, you don't have any problem to work at anywhere.`
----what is HR?

This post has been edited by pc123: Apr 24 2008, 12:37 PM

HR = Human Resources.

I'm from UTP, undergo my internship now.
I have met a lot seniors who holding the scholarship.
At first when I joined in UTP and I din get the scholarship, well I was a bit "unhappy" or disappointing but I don't find it that way anymore now.
A lot oil n gas companies nowadays do not take Petronas scholars as their interns, nor permanent staff.
Simply because most of them will be called by Petronas and work where ever Petronas "throw" them at, other companies will not want to train a student on behalf of petronas, right?

I have seniors, high scorers in E&E, now working as trader/procurement personnel in Petronas subsidiary, some in marketing, some in HR.
Those lucky one get into oil n gas sector but how many are lucky? Small amount only.

Let say you stayed in HR for 10 years to serve the bond, do you think you can switch back to engineering line by then?

If not mistaken, UTP has risen the tuition fee which mean now 1 year scholarship = 3 years bond.
Fellow UTPians, correct me if I'm wrong.

There's always option to break the bond, pay one lump sum.
I have seniors did that, who get offer from SLB/Baker Hughes.
I rather consider paying back PTPTN by installment than one lump sum to Petronas
If you holding JPA/MARA scholarship in UTP, then u are safe.

IMO, its always good to take up the scholarship if you have no intention to join oil n gas, if you have intention for it. Think again.
In the company I'm at now, a lot senior engineers told me not to join Petronas in the future, go to other companies. They were from Petronas previously.

If u a non-petronas scholar in UTP, you stand a very high chance to join oil n gas sector.
Check this URL, how many oil n gas companies came to UTP few weeks ago for career fair.
http://www.utp.edu.my/news/TEC2008.php


I'm 'working' in office now, crapster used to do so. You can consult him about the "office" atmosphere as most of them here are offshore people.
Consultant, fabrication, installation, servicing, client, maintenance (integrity management) = Oil n Gas

p/s : Sorry for my messy post.

This post has been edited by allenultra: Apr 24 2008, 01:57 PM

@pc123

you are not fully understood, the oil will only deplete/finish IF there are no new discovery at all (from now). The estimation is based on current reserves and consumption rate. Let say if company A found few giant oil fields with >1 trillion STOOIP, it will prolong the 2050 to .... 2xxx

Genting Oil and Gas, the only company in Malaysia (but didn't involve E&P business in Msia) with more mandarin speaking environment.

@allen

Exactly the situation in p company... welcome to oil&gas...
actually got ways to job hop from p company to others, if you know the "lubang"...

Well if you are bonded and want to hop always from petronas,
its either break the bond or your future company willing to buyout your "bond".
Unless you know someone in ESU, who can "release" you from the bond

Beside that, what else could it be?
Many of UTP students would glad to know that

This post has been edited by allenultra: Apr 24 2008, 02:53 PM

Did I said I working in that company?
and I'm not bonded to anyone

[quote=jikass01,Apr 23 2008, 07:28 PM]
[quote=kevinling,Apr 23 2008, 04:18 AM]
well..i intern there b4 as a geophysicist...i will say it quite ok ther but salary is kinda low...rm1600 per month...6 month probation..after 6 month probation thn ur salary will be revised...u can get 2k....offshore allowances is rm120 per day......life is tough there coz ther is no rotation...once u go to offshore n back...u dint have holiday..u continue to work.....exchange ur offshore holiday with money....they are doin survey mostly in sabah,sarawak,vung tau(vietnam), and thailand. nw they going to explore russia....one of my colleague..he move to the party chief position in 3 years time only.....n 1 more she jump to SLB d after working there for 3 years..thats all i know....last time during my intern..i din get my comp to use....n u need to share table coz places is limited..bear with it coz the data center is small...thats all i can share...

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kevinling,

thx for sharing the experience. i was called to attend an interview sumwhr nxt week at sri kembangan. the post offered was "Management & Engineering Associate Programme". what is this actually? the JD was quite brief.. ('http://my.jobstreet.com/jobs/2008/1/s/10/558978.htm?fr=J',650,600)

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sorry as i interns as a geophysicist....can tell u much bout that..but the company is kinda big...all the best...sapura crest is expanding now....

By contract yes, you need to pay lump sum. You can write to request for monthly payment. Most case, they will close one eye and let you go provided you pay them back slowly during initial stage. No interest if not mistaken. Unless you're recommended, then that's a different case.

Alright thz alot guys. Those advice really helps. I guess i`ll just concentrate on my studies 1st n come back wen i almost grad..still too early for me to check out those companies..