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post Apr 23 2008, 06:16 PM

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Hi everyone,
Lucky me to have stumble upon this page. Well, I`m still a student. Spm leaver currently. I`m interested in this OnG field. So, I want to know more about Petrol Engineering. Mind to answer all my questions? Help pls. Here are my questions:

1. Everyday life as an offshore P.E.
a). Working hours (12 hours shift that i noe. About the off days..i
heard it`s work n` off in ratio of 3-1 month? Or is it 2-2 weeks?
Another friend of mine said he heard it`s work n off 3-1 year.) Is
this working package? Lol..jk..which is true?
b). Dirty job? (I mean we are to work under the Sun n`sweat all
day?)
c). Is it considered a tough job? (Insufficient slp? pressure? Gota be
very fit to cope with the weather at sea?)
2. Salary.
a). The office job`s salary? (there is office job right?)
b). The offshore`s salary? (i noe it`s high, i just want comparison
between office n` offshore)
3. Oil depletion. This is an issue nowadays. I`ve read b4 sum sites
stating that oil will be depleted by 2080. But many said oil will be
depleted by next decade. By the year i`m graduate would be year
2014. So is there no hope for my generation to persue P.E.? Or would
the old depletion prob be faced by the next generation?
4. Others..
a). Do they check for colour blind employees? Or izzit non-related?
b). Do P.Engineers work in offices? Or is it the job of IT pro n`
bissiness pro? I mean engineers working in office would be funny
right?
c). Is P.E. job a popular among malays? I mean i dun wan to end up
working in an environment of 80% malay employees. Is there a
lot of chinese in this field?

I`ve just attended the educamp of Petronas Uni. Well, I still have doubts about setting up my mind for Petrol enginneer. Is working with Petronas in the future a good choice? Tell me..reply..thanks..
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post Apr 24 2008, 12:09 PM

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Alright thanks for your answers.

1). Okay i understand physically n` mentally fit. What about the off days? I want to noe how long I would be missing my loved ones.

2). Is there any1 working in office now? tell me more about it. Tell me the $$$ eventho it isn`t that much.

3). Oil deplete by around 2050. Alright got it.

4). Yeah i understand i wrote a stupid ques asking bout racist stuffs. I understand now, thanks. How about colour blind ppl? This ques frm my fren.

I`m just a SPM leaver. I once tot of getting SHELL schola,but they required A-levels. So, one of the fastest way is to get PETRONAS schola right? So, you are saying working with petronas isn`t that good? I understand the 10 years bondage period but 10 years I guess nvm 1 la right?

Well I need to noe more about the office job. Any1 working in office?

`You will free from financial problem if you receive the scholarship, but you will be bonded for 8-10years. I saw few of the first class/oversea engineering graduates end up working in management department. HR placed them.
If you are hardworking, work smart, you don't have any problem to work at anywhere.`
----what is HR?

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post Apr 24 2008, 07:44 PM

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Alright thz alot guys. Those advice really helps. I guess i`ll just concentrate on my studies 1st n come back wen i almost grad..still too early for me to check out those companies..
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post Apr 27 2008, 04:33 PM

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`i agree... dun u think its better to get more experince from other service or oil companies which could offer u wt variety of intense training then sticking wt petronas which is a bit 'relaxing' company? Also, u rather to be bonded even when there're other companies which could offer u with much higher salary tat enable u to pay back the ptptn in a very short time, perhaps 1-2 years. if u ever go to petronas, dun even think of going to Shell... they are 'enemies'. After u finish ur contract wt petronas, they have the choice of either dumping u, or keeping u, depending on ur performance. By that time, u keep to review ur own capability and what have u learn in petronas before u apply for other company. i dun think there's many companies out there who willing to accept someone who're being dumped, except if u're the one who dump the company. so, think about it properly. i dun say that petronas is not a good company, but i rather said that its a safe option when u've work in other O&G companies for perhaps 10 or 20 years and you're thinking of having a 'calm' life.`

Christine, so u are saying that other companies give their emplyoyees a better life compared to petronas. Well, i`m hoping 2 study in petronas..so wat happens if i get their convertible loan here? Throw it away n apply 4 ptptn? So yur main point is to encourage me to study in petronas uni without their scholarship 1st, then run to other company after i`m graduated frm petronas? Tell me more...thz...

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post May 21 2008, 09:58 PM

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I`m starting stpm now,it`s hard n suffering..n i hope my 6years(2 stpm+ 4 deagree) will affect my salary later on in life..
1). I wish to ask wat course you guys took b4 ending up in petrol type work in OnG companies. Chem engineering is 1 rite?mechanical? wat bout chemical n biomolecula engineer? any other? petrol enginner is the straightest 1 bt i`m afraid we might face oil problems later on..might as well major in sumting on both petrol n non-petrol.
2). Neglect my interests(i mean i hav), any idea how much a freshie tat works in OnG earns? Lets say..offshore n office jobs..i heard ppl who work offshores in MIri earns only 2k while sum may get >5k as a freshie eventho he`s workin in the office..wat r the reasons behind this? I`m kinda $.$ face..let salary talks now..
3). I`m oso interested in stuying in S`pore(NUS/NTU) nex time, just asking, is there any OnG indutries there? i noe nth bout sg! wats the job prospect in sg(jobs related to oil)? Second plan---> local univ...by ranking for the course i wanted(chem engineer) shud be like this rite? USM>UTM>UTP....
i need advice bout my future...sry for messy post n thz in advance...

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post May 22 2008, 01:49 PM

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allenultra..
1) Petroleum Engineering, then Mechanical Engineering.
2) exploration and service will get high pay as freshie
3) Local university who get recognisation in oil n gas sector, it has to be UTP. NUS/NTU no comment.

1) U missed out chem engineer..any other course related to oil?
2) How high wil he earn?
3) My god! it seems lik UTP is best place for oil educations..true? If i`m not mistaken, USM n UTM ranks on top of UTP by ranking..is UTP climbing up?
any1 here have any opinions bout stuying oil-related course n then wat happen after grad? Share plz..thz..

hunterox...
1)STPM no longer recognise as world class exam? whr u get this info frm? tel me the web..i`ll go n read..
2)Did evry1 here start yur career in OnG with a basic pay of roughly 2.5k+?
To work offshore n with tat kind of pay..not worth it..how bout alowance n bonus?

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post May 22 2008, 06:27 PM

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Thz for the advises..yeah i agree many ppl aren`t aware of geophysics yet..dats realy an advantage..hey, wat actually does a geophysics do? other than searching for resevoirs and data stuffs..do they get to work upstream? or just on land in office?

1 conclusion bout salaries..it usually depends on the candidates abilities and how good the company is right? theres no telling tat a person frm office job(a bit easy but dull) could earn higher than a person frm offshore(tiring n hard)..true? I still hope i could achieve 5k as freshie..tell me bout how u get a raise in pay?

Christine..
3) I dont think that u need to waste so much money in private college etc. If u could, gettin' into local university is really not bad either. Think twice, is it wise for u to waste more money just to earn the same amount of money as the local uni students? Also, some companies, for example exxon mobil takes degree holders from local students while for oversea students, they are pretty much prefer the master students. Im malaysia, experience is more important than education level. U know why? because not all the things u learn in uni is used in ur future job. Hence, u'll need to learn new things when join the company.
-->yeah agree! its mor advisable do local degrees if u wana work locally..unless u plan to work outside m`sia,lets say s`pore ,then its better to get a degree frm their univ...correct?
Christine u work in an office? tell me bout the life of geophysics in an office..i`m mor interested in working in an office environment rather than the offshore..

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post May 22 2008, 08:46 PM

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Thz thz alot for sharing..vry valuable info..i never noe geophysics is so interesting..lol vry good elaboration..thz thz again..

Wat bout mechanical or petrol as well as chem engineers get involved into office jobs lik geophysics does? any ideas or experience?

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post May 28 2008, 09:43 PM

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QUOTE(simple.ology @ May 28 2008, 02:23 PM)
Oh god... today slb just reply me a mail... like below...

[Thank you for your interest regarding employment with Schlumberger. After carefully considering your background,qualifications and our current requirements, we feel that at the present time we do not have a position available that would satisfy both our needs.]

If not mistaken, I applied slb on last Dec. I did not received any acknowledgement email that stating whether they have received my online application or not... until today... I'm informed that I did not succeed for my application...

Does it mean I will have to wait for another 1 1/2 year to reapply or forever I have lost my chance...

fyi... I got a degree in Mechanical but have 2 years of sales and marketing experience in semicon industry... is it that hard for me to switch into oil and gas industry...?
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aww...dun give up...still so many OnG companies rite? btw, wat do u major in? u apply for wat? students muz know which job has low prospects...
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post May 29 2008, 05:56 PM

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Nicole, here`s sth bout O&G benifits:

QUOTE(christine85 @ Apr 15 2008, 03:28 PM)
haha... you got some point there, but i would say that O&G is certainly far more better than lots of other industry outside.

For other companies:
1. fresh grads' avg salary 2k
2. no allowance
3. stick in the lab/factory/ office as well
4. doing same thing over and over again--->boring & no life
5. Some job need u to work more than 10hours per day but only get half og the pay given by O&G companies
6. risk in some jobs, eg: chemist--> exposed to chemical stuffs. if explode accidently, also die--> life's a fate, if destinied to die, sure will die regardless of how, where and why.
7. After 30 years, pension, not even enough for the rest of the life, think about goin travelling? better dreams when sleeping

NO MONEY---> DUN EVER SICK, if sick, better die directly than suffer
              ---> No dreams, no big houses, no fancy cars, nth to enjoy, imagine, born into this world eg: for 70years, doin nth but study, work,
                      nth to enjoy, no money for travelling etc
              ---> Wan to own a business after working for 10years? think again and plan. money? experience in business?
              ---> dun even think of want to give family a better life, no money no talk

There are certainly many industry which u could earn a lot, eg
1.network marketing, but too many ppl have negative view on it, pandek kata, coward malaysians, especially, dun even dare to know what it is.. some even say tat its a scam, cheat ppl's money etc.. sorry, system=dead, onlp ppl cheat ppl. so nth's wrong
2. Insurance, need to find customers, some ppl dun even know how to talk
3. Financial planner, more or less need to find customers also
4. business, no money no talk
5. etc

Life is not only about urself. how about ur family? ur parents? your future kids? Its about responsibility. Sometimes u need to sacrifice in order to get sth better in your life. Like kevinling said, no pain, no gain. This is one of the industries which makes u really tough, both mentally and physically, at least you're paid with all the 'pain' u gain through out the process. i believe if one could survive in this industry, he or she will be able to survive in other industries as well. Hence, why complain when O&G trainu to be better and gives u money, thus, dreams and better life etc.? laugh.gif and not all ppl work for rest of their life in O&G. It is also a stepping stone and financial foundation source for your other future planning.
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--very good argument rclxms.gif rclxms.gif rclxms.gif
In any conditions, after years of xperience, cnt yur hubby simply juz shift to the management side/consultation,office jobs? Sinz u said yur hubby is in offshore n tat it`s abit tiring and being away for too long(soaked iwth sweat, intense heat frm Sun,etc etc...long rotation periods)

christine, yur gona work in an office rite? can brief me a lit mor on the office life lik wat u seen in the shell internhsip? so, shud b mor relaxing rite? nothing much dif like other office jobs? --work in morning,lunch wit collegues, back home at evening, then dinner with loved ones,shop/clubs..etc etc? btw, r u working in malaysia or outside the mainland? is there a department in penang?lol.. then hows the upgrade of salary thing is done? evry year got automatic salary increment? at the age of 25(assume grad at 25), earns 5k at slb.. How bout salary for office jobs offered by other companies--shell,petro,etc...

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post May 29 2008, 09:53 PM

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QUOTE(christine85 @ May 29 2008, 09:18 PM)
smile.gif thanks for the compliment. hmm... if u look back on my previous posts, i've mentioned about the office life be4. Yea, the office life in O&G companies is pretty much the same as in other companies. there are times when u'll be really really busy, especially when u're required to pass up a report in the given time frame and there are also times when u;ll be really free, ie when you finish your assignment. However you still can do the routine with your loved ones anytime u want especially when u're working in O&G companies as most of the O&G companies allow you to access their system at home. i'm based in malaysia, and i dont think there's any office in penang. About the salary increment, it is usually given to those who have more experiences and for certain companies, passing exams are required. For slb, i heard the recruiter said that exam will be held every year. Hence, u'll get a chance to upgrade urself once a year. Im not sure about automatic increment. for other companies, the salary is approximately:
Dugeo:2.5K, i think got plus allowance
Shell: 2.7k, plus allowance which makes the total=5k
Petronas: 2.6k, i dunno got plus allowance or not but bonus quite high depending on the performance.
Talisman: 3k, plus some allowance
CGG&Veritas: ~2.5k also...
some companies give allowance and some dont...
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Yeah..tats definitely the life i want icon_idea.gif ..easy,relax,considered less pressure compared to offshorres..as a plus point, higher pay than other deciplines n u juz work in an office.. nod.gif .. hmm.gif no doubt most companies offer up to at least RM4k(plus allowance) for beginners....as beginners shudn`t xpect so much right biggrin.gif ..neway, thz for clearing my doubts for office life..

If i want to go offshore for sum time(shud get sum xperience), then hop back to office life izzit easy to do tat? I heard offshore xperienced seniors wil definite obtain mor $$ bt its rather hard to switch..i hope 2 at least be able to experience da life at rig b4 going for office jobs..Wat r the procedures involved for doin tat? is jumping here n there easy? vry keen on knowing all these things altho i havent start univ life..sry if i ask unwise ques.. laugh.gif



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post May 29 2008, 10:19 PM

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QUOTE(pinkdalmation @ May 29 2008, 10:08 PM)
pc123, i talked to a couple of senior senior people in the field  .. they started out offshore, now in the office. . after you complete your training and climb up the ladder you can move back to the office (either management or different field) .. but you should bare in mind that its a substantial pay cut from offshore to office cos you dont get offshore bonus and additional allowance in the office smile.gif
bare in mind that it will take a while till you do complete training lar  ..
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i`m planing to do so tongue.gif how bout the hop here and there procedure? yur saying b4 hopping to management line frm the offshore field u gota do a couple of tranings la rite? i noe..other than tat? rclxub.gif confuse...shudn`t consume lots of time isn`t it?
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QUOTE(iDk @ May 31 2008, 12:13 AM)
You dint even enter Uni yet?!  And you want to talk about offshore work, want to jump here and there? I would prefer you think about your foundation year first, and finish off your 5 years of degree study, then only think about working world and money. No point to discuss about it, as you are not able to understand or to realize the toughness and determination needed that we are talking about here. It was like talking about you want to be a racing driver and win the first placing, but you dont even know what is car at the first place.
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hah i understand..don`t take me as the `4 year old kid saying dad i wanna marry her in the future`..lol biggrin.gif i understand..ahh juz curious only..but its alwayz better to have an aim than nothing..at least u noe wat yur fighting for..18 years old d..a nice age to start learning wats reli out there in the world of work..just my opinion..

1 question christine, is any job oportuniety for geophysics in spore? my god if u work there u`ll b earning SGD!! and its near msia where u can visit loved ones easily rather than offshore job..theres alot of OnG companies in spore right? how bout the job oportunities for geophysics there? laugh.gif

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post May 31 2008, 05:57 PM

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QUOTE(blue_autumn @ May 31 2008, 11:08 AM)
Yes, there are some opportunities for geophysicist to work in Singapore but not much, I guess. To what I knew, CGGVeritas has an office there. Try this http://www.cggveritas.com/Contact.aspx?cid=266

Why do you think that working in Singapore is better than working in Malaysia? Just looking at that currency? Malaysia has more Oil and Gas Company compared to Singapore, and hence more opportunities to get yourself in Oil and Gas Company. How much you earn and spend in Singapore, and how much you earn and spend in Malaysia, I would say that there is not much in difference (correct me if that is wrong).

Before you step into University, please do more research on what you like to do in the future, just don't follow the majority. If you do not like the job that you are not interested in, no matter how much the company pay for you, you won't stay long in that field. Just my advice. But if you have decided to get into yourself in Oil and Gas Company, don't regret on what you have done. And, don't compare among the people, you will get nothing.

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Hey man, i dun 4lo majorities..i 4lo wat i believe n like..i want to be involved in oil stuffs dealing with computers..geophysics is da most suitable choice..thz christine for introducing..lol..

many of my frens moved to spore n planing to stay there 4eva..u shud noe the reasons..i could hav followed if i wanted to..point is, working in OnG industries in msia or got sent to offshores(earning USD) is way better than working in spor..besides i dun even noe how spore`s oil operation goes n the job oportunities for geophy..

However, spor has very huge job oportunities..huge man, it`s huge..so, there`s sum pulling force upon me to go spor..besides, a geophy dun hav to b based on oil only..theres many mor things a geophy r capable of..nah, bt i like it mor in msia.. nod.gif correct me if i`m wrong..thz for the webpage..i think i better do things on my own nex tym.. sweat.gif

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post Jun 1 2008, 06:50 PM

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QUOTE(lingloong @ May 31 2008, 06:37 PM)
im not sure about the companies in S'pore but i do heard that Exxon got an office there... Job opportunity for geophysicist is vast everywhere cause without clean data, its very hard to determine the location of oil. To get a good data, geophysicists are needed. hence, they are needed in many places.
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theres alot of GnO companies there..
-shell
-exxon mobile
-BP
-Baker hughes
-Slb got also
-alot more bt in total there are less OnG companies than in msia...

any1 fancy the idea of working in sg`s OnG companies?
If yur planing to work offshores then u dun hav to migrate to sg sinz u`ll b earning USD..
Office based..i think earning SGD is better than MYD..imagine earning RM4k here and earning SGD4k in spore..haha i good 4 nth but money drool.gif ..reasons-->after total expenditure(rental,food,parents,etc) sg ppl saves mor than MY ppl plus u get its currency benifits(travelling,shoping in msia)..anyway,share yur opinions plz..experts,any ideas?

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post Jun 8 2008, 01:08 AM

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Things wil b rather a mess for those still aiming to join O&G comp..to b honest, is it stil safe for todays students to enter OnG industries?
Lol i oso tot dat increment in world oil price wil then result in increamen of workers` salary..seems lik fat bonus reli gona b scraped away..

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Guys..just asking..i`m lazy to do research already..can any1 out there answer me?
Geophysic is called `kejuruteraan bahan dan mineral`..
So, Geophysics is basically a materials and minerals enginneering rite?
What bout materials and manufacturing engineering offered by TARC? whats their difference? I only noe both can lead to OnG industries..
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Guys i`m a stpm graduate..results will b out next week..well i planned on taking geophysics/geology/anything related..just want to know the job prospects in these days. Is it in need?
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Just asking. What are the career prospects of a petrol eng today in the job market? Plus, izzit destined every petrol eng wil get their hands dirty? I mean i prefer office life than offshore.
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Tq for the replies. Well then, i guess taking chemical eng has a wider prospect than petrol eng isnt it? Since i prefer the office based jobs.

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