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yuhhaur
post Dec 10 2012, 11:44 AM

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QUOTE(d3dragonslayer @ Dec 10 2012, 11:42 AM)
yeah.. using VW with str+dex here too! biggrin.gif

and i found the opposite in AH.. life is more exp compared to vit.. condition is when i search my dex at 222 and above..
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the high price also partly because of the >200 dex roll (a normal VW rolls 170-200 main stat)
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post Dec 10 2012, 11:46 AM

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QUOTE(yuhhaur @ Dec 10 2012, 11:44 AM)
the high price also partly because of the >200 dex roll (a normal VW rolls 170-200 main stat)
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ic.. true also as it's easier to roll vit instead of life when dex is above 200 right~
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post Dec 10 2012, 11:48 AM

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QUOTE(paranoid @ Dec 10 2012, 11:40 AM)
i thought i read somewhere

vit > life%
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lets see it like this:
for 100vit increment @ 30k hp = 3500
for 100vit increment @ 40k hp = 3500

for 10% Life increment @ 30k hp = 3000
for 10% Life increment @ 40k hp = 4000

but...
comparatively a 100vit gear is more expensive than a 10%life gear
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post Dec 10 2012, 11:49 AM

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QUOTE(yuhhaur @ Dec 10 2012, 11:48 AM)
lets see it like this:
for 100vit increment @ 30k hp = 3500
for 100vit increment @ 40k hp = 3500

for 10% Life increment @ 30k hp = 3000
for 10% Life increment @ 40k hp = 4000

but...
comparatively a 100vit gear is more expensive than a 10%life gear
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So basically, when your vit reaches a certain level...Life% is better?

Can anyone explain the cut-off point for Life% to be useful instead of Vit?
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post Dec 10 2012, 11:59 AM

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QUOTE(Bringitawn @ Dec 10 2012, 11:49 AM)
So basically, when your vit reaches a certain level...Life% is better?

Can anyone explain the cut-off point for Life% to be useful instead of Vit?
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The cut off point is how many Vit you getting at what HP.
If you get 100 Vit at 35k HP (before gearing), it will be the same effect of getting 10% life.
If you get 100 Vit at 40k HP (before gearing), 10% life will give more.
I would say 35k HP is the cut of point of life %, because 100 Vit = 10% life at this point.
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post Dec 10 2012, 12:00 PM

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QUOTE(Bringitawn @ Dec 10 2012, 11:49 AM)
So basically, when your vit reaches a certain level...Life% is better?

Can anyone explain the cut-off point for Life% to be useful instead of Vit?
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i did this calc before..

but i have to admit certain piece of our gears carries high VIT and some others dont.
sometimes upgrading some gears affects the hp too much because of the life%.
vit stats not that scary when upgrading.
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QUOTE(qicquser @ Dec 10 2012, 11:59 AM)
The cut off point is how many Vit you getting at what HP.
If you get 100 Vit at 35k HP (before gearing), it will be the same effect of getting 10% life.
If you get 100 Vit at 40k HP (before gearing), 10% life will give more.
I would say 35k HP is the cut of point of life %, because 100 Vit = 10% life at this point.
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I think I need to do a spreadsheet for this. Maybe I'll share my findings with you guys. Thanks for the explanation yuhhaur and qicuser. smile.gif
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post Dec 10 2012, 01:07 PM

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QUOTE(Bringitawn @ Dec 10 2012, 12:16 PM)
I think I need to do a spreadsheet for this. Maybe I'll share my findings with you guys. Thanks for the explanation yuhhaur and qicuser.  smile.gif
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nice2x.. please hurry up.. brows.gif notworthy.gif tongue.gif
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post Dec 10 2012, 01:50 PM

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Basically or in a nutshell, if your char can exceed 58.3k hp then %life is worth it otherwise don't bother.

This post has been edited by MOBAJOBG: Dec 10 2012, 01:51 PM
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post Dec 10 2012, 01:54 PM

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QUOTE(MOBAJOBG @ Dec 10 2012, 01:50 PM)
Basically or in a nutshell, if your char can exceed 58.3k hp then %life is worth it otherwise don't bother.
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hey puberty monk...where did you get such figures? care linking your source so we can all be enlightened? cool2.gif
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post Dec 10 2012, 01:55 PM

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I'm a mathematician.
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post Dec 10 2012, 01:56 PM

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QUOTE(MOBAJOBG @ Dec 10 2012, 01:50 PM)
Basically or in a nutshell, if your char can exceed 58.3k hp then %life is worth it otherwise don't bother.
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58.3K HP = 1666 VIT sweat.gif I believe if the person can stack VIT to 1.6k (without life%) his other stats won't do good hmm.gif
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post Dec 10 2012, 02:03 PM

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QUOTE(MOBAJOBG @ Dec 10 2012, 01:50 PM)
Basically or in a nutshell, if your char can exceed 58.3k hp then %life is worth it otherwise don't bother.
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Basically or in a nutshell, if your char can exceed 58.3k hp then %life is worth it otherwise don't bother both life% and vit is not worth, don't bother, upgrade something else. laugh.gif

Beggar monk rule; whichever come cheaper!

100 vit ~ 10% life @ 35k HP (~1000 vit)

So, if you have less than 1000 vit, 100vit is better than 10% life and vice versa but yuhhaur's Vile Ward is a good buy.

I bought a new toy too; new SoJ. My Seightbreaker MP10 killing time improved by 15 seconds!!! muahahahah! shocking.gif


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post Dec 10 2012, 02:05 PM

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i only got 27k hp, vit or life % better is meaningless to me tongue.gif
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post Dec 10 2012, 02:08 PM

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QUOTE(Quazacolt @ Dec 10 2012, 02:05 PM)
i only got 27k hp, vit or life % better is meaningless to me tongue.gif
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Because both are bestest for you biggrin.gif
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post Dec 10 2012, 02:09 PM

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QUOTE(yuhhaur @ Dec 10 2012, 01:56 PM)
58.3K HP = 1666 VIT sweat.gif I believe if the person can stack VIT to 1.6k (without life%) his other stats won't do good hmm.gif
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You stack both. Places where you can get VIT, you get as much as possible. Places like vile wards, mix it up a bit. Getting 58k hp then consider life percentage is wrong.
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QUOTE(yuhhaur @ Dec 10 2012, 02:08 PM)
Because both are bestest for you  biggrin.gif
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ill get if it comes naturally to me la (future inna vast expanse chest lol)

unless im forced my hand having 23k hp after updating my inna's pants, lol amethysts gems
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post Dec 10 2012, 02:22 PM

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QUOTE(2890 @ Dec 10 2012, 02:09 PM)
You stack both. Places where you can get VIT, you get as much as possible. Places like vile wards, mix it up a bit. Getting 58k hp then consider life percentage is wrong.
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...very much this explanation is spot on!

This post has been edited by MOBAJOBG: Dec 10 2012, 02:22 PM
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post Dec 10 2012, 02:31 PM

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haha.. my life% bonus at 79%.. LOL
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post Dec 10 2012, 02:38 PM

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Anyway, the max life (%) to seek for is 54% but at the expense of your total dps damage otherwise just go with 42%.

Head; 12+18=30
Shoulder; 12
Waist (optional); 12

My barb by the courtesy of Blizz. Go right ahead and check the distribution of life (%) of my char.

This post has been edited by MOBAJOBG: Dec 10 2012, 02:41 PM

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